History Headscratchers / Ghostbusters

27th Nov '17 1:09:58 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** Their apartments ''do'' seem to be directly under Gozer's temple.
4th Nov '17 10:38:05 PM DoctorNemesis
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*** I haven't read that strip, but it sounds like in that case the heartbroken ghost was probably making a bit of a nuisance of itself in some way though. What's being suggested here is that if the ghost isn't really causing any trouble and the people around aren't really bothered or negatively impacted by it, there's no real reason to hunt it down.
25th Oct '17 9:01:37 PM costanton11
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*** the notes for slimer in the game suggest that several and/or most of the ghosts they deal with are manifestations of common emotions or impressions rather than belonging to a single individual.

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*** the The notes for slimer Slimer in the game suggest that several and/or most of the ghosts they deal with are manifestations of common emotions or impressions rather than belonging to a single individual.



** Yeah, and they don't really blame Ray that much: they panic and take it out on him when he first admits it, but they let it go as soon as they actually see Staypuff on the horizon. One bit of FridgeBrilliance I love is that, though it catches them by surprise when it happens, Vinz did tell Egon about it. The way he said it just didn't make any sense until later...

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** Yeah, and they don't really blame Ray that much: they panic and take it out on him when he first admits it, but they let it go as soon as they actually see Staypuff Stay Puft on the horizon. One bit of FridgeBrilliance I love is that, though it catches them by surprise when it happens, Vinz did tell Egon about it. The way he said it just didn't make any sense until later...



** For what it's worth, for years this troper misheard Egon's "Print is dead" line (in response to Janine trying to flirt by figuring out if Egon likes to read) as "printer's dead." The Ghostbusters had very limited start-up funds, and most of that went to the containment unit, proton packs, ghost traps, and insanely expensive car (and work to get said car driveable). So they probably bought the cheapest second-hand office equipment they could find, and most of it barely worked or didn't work at all. Egon's fixing it.

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** For what it's worth, for years this troper misheard Egon's "Print is dead" line (in response to Janine trying to flirt by figuring out if Egon likes to read) as "printer's dead." The Ghostbusters had very limited start-up funds, and most of that went to the containment unit, proton packs, ghost traps, and insanely expensive car (and work to get said car driveable).drivable). So they probably bought the cheapest second-hand office equipment they could find, and most of it barely worked or didn't work at all. Egon's fixing it.



*** He might just be making an educated guess based on what he knows about ghosts in general (i.e. he hasn't fully confirmed it with testing, but based solely on observation Slimer shows recognisable signs of being a 'non-terminal' entity, whatsoever that might be). It's not exactly strictly following the scientific method, granted, but Ray ''is'' a legit expert on ghosts, so it shouldn't be too much of a stretch that he might be able to make some pre-emptive deductions about what kind of ghost they might be dealing with just from observing it; same as how your doctor might start narrowing down what your condition might be just from hearing you describe the symptoms before conducting the full examination. Furthermore, the person he's talking to is a non-expert anyway, so who cares if Ray's jumping the gun a little bit? He's trying to sound knowledgeable so the guy will be impressed by his expertise and thus will cough up a generous pay-check, and it's not like the guy's gonna follow up on their test results or peer-review their research or anything.

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*** He might just be making an educated guess based on what he knows about ghosts in general (i.e. he hasn't fully confirmed it with testing, but based solely on observation Slimer shows recognisable recognizable signs of being a 'non-terminal' entity, whatsoever that might be). It's not exactly strictly following the scientific method, granted, but Ray ''is'' a legit expert on ghosts, so it shouldn't be too much of a stretch that he might be able to make some pre-emptive deductions about what kind of ghost they might be dealing with just from observing it; same as how your doctor might start narrowing down what your condition might be just from hearing you describe the symptoms before conducting the full examination. Furthermore, the person he's talking to is a non-expert anyway, so who cares if Ray's jumping the gun a little bit? He's trying to sound knowledgeable so the guy will be impressed by his expertise and thus will cough up a generous pay-check, and it's not like the guy's gonna follow up on their test results or peer-review their research or anything.
5th Oct '17 6:27:51 PM DoctorNemesis
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*** The fact that Venkman resists Dana even when she's clearly throwing herself at him with lust because she's clearly not herself suggests (to me at least) that he's also not the kind of man who's going to drug or dope a woman in order to date-rape her. In which case, I'm going with either (a) the thorazine is Dana's for whatever reason or (b) he brought it for another reason.

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*** The fact that Venkman resists Dana even when she's clearly throwing herself at him with lust because she's clearly not herself suggests (to me at least) that he's also not the kind of man who's going to drug or dope a woman in order to date-rape her. In which case, I'm going with either (a) the thorazine is Dana's for whatever reason or (b) he brought it for another reason.
7th Sep '17 12:31:53 AM DoctorNemesis
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** My personal guess would be, given how intense Egon was on the subject of "not suddenly cutting off power to the protection grid", that the grid ran off its own power source rather than being hooked into the mains. Or, at least, the parts of the system essential to it not suddenly exploding and showering New York with paranormal ectoplasmic entities ran off their own power source.
4th Sep '17 8:25:02 PM hashweed
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** There's a lot of indication that Zuul and Vinz are attracted to Dana and Lewis specifically, otherwise they could have possessed anybody in the building, meaning something about them as the inhabitants of those apartments is important to the creatures. It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe the summoning rites require their specific apartments to be inhabited for a certain amount of time and the apartments hadn't both had a tenant for that long until then?

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** There's a lot of indication that Zuul and Vinz are attracted to Dana and Lewis Louis specifically, otherwise they could have possessed anybody in the building, meaning something about them as the inhabitants of those apartments is important to the creatures. It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe the summoning rites require their specific apartments to be inhabited for a certain amount of time and the apartments hadn't both had a tenant for that long until then?



* Why exactly was Dana!Zuul having her freakout from Venkman's poor keymaster performance? Maybe Zuul was preparing himself for the ritual by storing up energy, but then had to release it else-how when he realized they were not getting into smexy-action. Or was he just trying to impress and scare Peter?

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* Why exactly was Dana!Zuul having her freakout from Venkman's poor keymaster Keymaster performance? Maybe Zuul was preparing himself itself for the ritual by storing up energy, but then had to release it else-how when he it realized they were not getting into smexy-action. Or was he it just trying to impress and scare Peter?
1st Sep '17 7:49:38 PM DocStone
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** There's a lot of indication that Zuul and Vinz are attracted to Dana and Lewis specifically, otherwise they could have possessed anybody in the building, meaning something about them as the inhabitants of those apartments is important to the creatures. It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe the summoning rites require their specific apartments to be inhabited for a certain amount of time and the apartments hadn't both had a tenant for that long until then?
14th Aug '17 8:40:32 AM costanton11
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** It was never stated that ''everyone'' suddenly believed ghosts didn't exist (well, maybe Peck still refuses to), only that the Ghostbusters had lost all credibility as an operation. Possibly when the "Gozer incident" was looked into after the dust and marshmallow had cleared, a lot more facts about how destructive their ghost-busting tactics could be and how unsafe their equipment really was became public knowledge. So their business's reputation was ruined, not because the ''ghosts'' weren't real, but because their ''actual services'' were a ripoff that routinely caused more damage than the ghosts themselves. Remember, the child who accuses Winston and Ray of being "full of crap" denied that his father doubted the supernatural: he just thought they ''personally'' were full of it.

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** It was never stated that ''everyone'' suddenly believed ghosts didn't exist (well, maybe Peck still refuses to), to and the judge doesn't believe at first), only that the Ghostbusters had lost all credibility as an operation. Possibly when the "Gozer incident" was looked into after the dust and marshmallow had cleared, a lot more facts about how destructive their ghost-busting tactics could be and how unsafe their equipment really was became public knowledge. So their business's reputation was ruined, not because the ''ghosts'' weren't real, but because their ''actual services'' were a ripoff that routinely caused more damage than the ghosts themselves. Remember, the child who accuses Winston and Ray of being "full of crap" denied that his father doubted the supernatural: he just thought they ''personally'' were full of it.
10th Aug '17 3:45:46 PM MadAnthony94
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*** "Non-terminal" could mean that he's not confined to one location or terminus (unlike other ghosts? Perhaps most of them stick to the place they died at) or perhaps he is in no danger of fading away/terminating by himself (again- unlike other ghosts?)
31st Jul '17 6:12:01 AM Toli
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*Was the ghost vault patched in to the city power grid? or did it have a back up generator? New York hasn't had the most steady energy system on the planet. and if shutting off the power was all it took for the ghosts to get loose, what happens if a rat were to chew through a line?

*Were the ghostbusters unintentionally part of Gozer's prophecy? they gathered a huge amount of spiritual energy into a concentrated space. when the time was right it just so happened to 'burst' making the dimension barriers weak enough for Gozer to come through.
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