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1st Jun '17 11:01:03 AM Antediluvial
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** Ammo is highly tracked in training; the military knows training is stressful and keeping rounds accessible to recruits dealing with that stress is asking for a lot of trouble. Weapons are tracked carefully, bullets even more so, down to the individual round. When training requires shooting, the recruit is given a set number of rounds. They are expected to shoot the amount they are given, and instructors are there to make sure. There isn't any squirreling away possible; if you're given 20 rounds, you shoot 20 rounds. Otherwise there's gonna be trouble from DIs and MPs because a round or several are missing.
1st Jun '17 10:56:37 AM Antediluvial
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* There's really nothing Joker could do (at least what I saw). The rifle was behind Pyle resting against the toilet tank, Pyle is significantly bigger and could overpower any attempt to wrestle the rifle away from him (or Joker would get shot), Joker didn't know the rifle was unloaded at first, screaming and running for Hartman could set Pyle off and potentially cause more casualties. It's a difficult situation to read; I'm not surprised Joker froze up, and yeah it's not ideal given the options (or lack of) but that doesn't necessarily mean he's not cut out for service.
18th Mar '17 9:40:57 PM madorosh
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*** Or, Devil's Advocate suggests maybe the instructors *wanted* him to kill himself and they were the ones that supplied the ammo. Would possibly explain why Hartman goaded him, thinking he would be too weak to shoot him, but not too weak to shoot himself.
18th Mar '17 9:37:08 PM madorosh
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***Volunteering for the Marines doesn't mean they wanted to be there. AIUI a lot of draftees pre-emptively joined the Marines before being drafted for the Army, the rationale being that if they had to serve anyway, they might as well serve with a highly-motivated force that would increase the odds of their survival.
7th Jan '17 1:41:29 AM ManEFaces
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** Most likely reason is that Ermey was on script for all the lines that are taken directly from the book. People can exaggerate about improvisation.
15th Jul '16 10:05:08 PM Thecommander236
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** What I don't get is why Lawrence broke in the first place. If he signed up, then he knew that he would be going to Vietnam. He just graduated boot camp and did the parade march with the families watching. He was literally one night away from shipping out. Couldn't he just hold back from killing his DI for one night? Okay yeah, he snapped and he may not have planned on killing the guy until he was confronted by him, but it still seems odd to me. Did he just decide he didn't want to go to war like he had planned to? I mean, okay, you don't know what's going on in his head and that's probably intentional. Still, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
2nd Feb '16 3:16:40 PM CockroachCharlie
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*** It's a pavlovian response. They just spent their entire time at basic puckering up everytime they heard an authoritative voice. Therefore, even when wigging out, there is a good chance that it would cause a similar reaction out of pure instinct.
2nd Feb '16 3:13:05 PM CockroachCharlie
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**** Just pointing out that his MOS WAS infantry.
24th Nov '15 9:45:44 PM Cally
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** To "short-dick," means the same as "short-change." If he motivates Pyle to get fit, Pyle will lose weight, resulting in less food for the cannibals in the Congo to eat when they devour Pvt. Pyle.

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** To "short-dick," means the same as "short-change." If he motivates Pyle to get fit, Pyle will lose weight, resulting in less food for the cannibals in the Congo to eat when they devour Pvt. Pyle. He will get Pvt. Pyle fit even if it means cheating the natives out of a meal.
22nd Nov '15 9:16:54 AM ham-peas
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*** That's nice for you and for them, but it would help if you could point to a single shred of evidence for the thesis. If anything, Pyle's demonstrated lack of fitness for the Marine Corps would make his eventual turnaround a triumph on Hartman's part.
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