History Headscratchers / FinalFantasyXIII

13th Oct '16 1:43:30 PM kitikami
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\n\n**I was under the impression that they only regain their sentience and remember their focus once they become Cie'th stones. By the time that happens, they've been wandering around aimlessly for who knows how long as mindless Cie'th. Since they can't really move as Cie'th stones, they're just stuck wherever they happen to be at that point.

20th Sep '16 10:29:43 AM HakkyounoTenshi
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*** She's less a cop and more National Guard
20th Sep '16 10:25:28 AM HakkyounoTenshi
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*** Alternately: denial. The sister she was tasked with taking care of is leaing her to get married (And try to tell me that there isn't at least a little codependancy between Serah and Lightning), and is also essentially marked for a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't FateWorseThanDeath. All of that landing on her at once, one can't really blame her for trying to reject it out of hand.

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*** Alternately: denial. The sister she was tasked with taking care of is leaing leaving her to get married (And try to tell me that there isn't at least a little codependancy between Serah and Lightning), and is also essentially marked for a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't FateWorseThanDeath. All of that landing on her at once, one can't really blame her for trying to reject it out of hand.
** Lightning is unhealthy co-dependent on Serah and REALLY doesn't like Snow. She actually thinks that Serah's dating him as a cry for attention and that once she starts spending more time with Serah, Serah will kick him to the curb. She thinks the whole thing is a cry for attention, instead of, you know, a potential catastrophe.
20th Sep '16 10:15:38 AM HakkyounoTenshi
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*** Actually, Lighting is blaming Snow so she doesn't have to face her own guilt and jealousy. Guilt because she refused to take Serah seriously when Serah tried to tell her that she'd been turned into a L'Cie, and jealousy because she's afraid that Serah won't love or need her anymore now that she has Snow. She's fixating on Snow failing to save Serah so she doesn't have to face the fact that she refused to help until it was too late.


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** It's true that Hope's fixation on Snow is EXTREMELY annoying to listen to (this troper skipped most of Hope's dialogue until post chapter 7), but his circumstances make it easier to forgive him (if you want to blame anyone blame SE for making us listen to 25 hours of it), I honestly find it a lot hard to dismiss LIGHTNING's part in the let's-kill-Snow plan. While Hope is a sheltered kid who has been thrown into circumstances beyond his control and blames Snow for his mother's death (his mother being his LivingEmotionalCrutch. See the above troper's response about how reality is unrealistic), Lightning is an adult and a trained soldier who blames Snow for her sister's circumstances because she doesn't want to face her own guilt (when Serah told her that she'd become a L'Cie, Lightning immediately dismissed is as a lie so she and Snow could get married sooner. She ended up driving Serah away in tears) and jealously (she was afraid that Serah wouldn't love or need her anymore because she had Snow now). She blames Snow for failing to save Serah, when she refused to admit there was a proble until it was too late .Quite frankly, Lightning's role in the plan comes off more MurderTheHypotenuse than [[KnightTemplarBigBrother Knight Templar Big Sister]].
31st Aug '16 7:30:16 AM Wolfberries
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** There's also their vastly different upbringings to take into account. Ellie was ''born'' in a CrapsackWorld, and had to learn to fend for herself and deal with a lot of horrible things at a very young age. Hope lived fourteen happy and comfortable years with his family before he had his life turned upside down. It stands to reason that it'd take a lot more to make her snap than it did him.
15th Aug '16 12:57:06 PM finalfaw
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** Maybe the marks aren't the same ones' maybe where you meet the marks are the creatures breeding grounds?


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** Barthandelus stuck 'em there to help the group grow and not die, you would of thought that pulsian save points/stores would look like all pulse tech (gritty old industrial) but the save points are clearly cocoon tech.
15th Aug '16 12:42:22 PM finalfaw
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\n* What is up with the Cie'th stones positions in comparison to where you are going to kill the marks? like the mark blocking the city before the Faultwarrens, his mark, is literally, on the OTHER SIDE of the continent! and from the mission quote he knew where the hell it was!


15th Aug '16 12:37:00 PM finalfaw
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** Ragnarok tore off a huge chunk of Cocoon, and Oerba is pretty close to Cocoon, maybe she tore off a chunk, crystalized it and flung it, it smacked off Tajins tower (hence why it snapped) and landed near Oerba throwing up a huge crystal dust cloud.





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\n*I'm quite concerned about the fact that after 500 years apparently the whole population of Gran Pulse is either dead, a Cie'th or a Cie'th stone. we know at least 64 people turned to Cie'th stone (apparently mundane tasks like killing a few imps is worthy of specifically making a L'cie) then there is the Undying which I think were the war of transgression vets who became embittered, I'd assume the Cie'th that are in Oerba are Fang and Vanilles friends and neighbours, then the other Cie'th elsewhere accounts for (a canon would be they were only thought or seen once) id estimate about maybe 200-300 Gran Pulsians transformed into Cie'th, stones and undying, we are told that Gran Pulse is huge, huge enough they made a continent sized sphere, from scraps, so where the hell is the other 99.99999999% of the population?


14th Jul '16 12:14:43 PM Anddrix
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*** Whilst this is indeed true, I think the reason why Hope is such a BaseBreaker is not because he is a whiny kid, but because he is a whiny kid ''scaled up to eleven.'' My go to example of how to pull off a distressed teenager is Ellie from ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs.'' She too has been through some absolutely unspeakable crap (including losing a Mother Figure before her eyes) and yet she doesn't feel the need to remind you about it by moaning and procrastinating in literally every scene she is in, and thus is a hell of a lot more bearable to the player because of it. There does come a point where ''It's Realistic!'' becomes counterproductive.

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*** Whilst this is indeed true, I think the reason why Hope is such a BaseBreaker BaseBreakingCharacter is not because he is a whiny kid, but because he is a whiny kid ''scaled up to eleven.'' My go to example of how to pull off a distressed teenager is Ellie from ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUs.'' She too has been through some absolutely unspeakable crap (including losing a Mother Figure before her eyes) and yet she doesn't feel the need to remind you about it by moaning and procrastinating in literally every scene she is in, and thus is a hell of a lot more bearable to the player because of it. There does come a point where ''It's Realistic!'' becomes counterproductive.
21st May '16 9:48:40 PM nombretomado
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* Has it actually been ''confirmed'' that over half of the game's content was cut out or is that just a rumor being thrown around because some PS3 fanboys are mad about the game also being on 360?

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* Has it actually been ''confirmed'' that over half of the game's content was cut out or is that just a rumor being thrown around because some PS3 [=PS3=] fanboys are mad about the game also being on 360?
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