History Headscratchers / FinalFantasyX

20th Apr '18 3:37:52 PM fearlessnikki
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** Here's some Wild Mass Guessing. Maybe since Tidus's Zanarkand is a dream, the Fayth creating it instead dream the modern version of Blitzball - as Tidus was intended to be someone to stop Sin. So they continually update their dream to match the current method of Blitzball. That way when Tidus visits Spira, he has some way of relating to the people there.




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** They're the complete opposite of each other. Unsent are people who died prematurely or badly - in such a way that it creates a ghost or phantom that survives only on obsession. Fayth meanwhile are people who willingly sacrificed themselves to be servants of summoners. As the Fayth become so willingly, that makes them different from Unsent.



** The sequel confirms that Summoners were around before Sin was created. So Sending has presumably been a tradition for more than a thousand years. Perhaps the Fayth themselves teach the Summoner how to do it?




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** And Yu Yevon has been stuck inside Sin for a thousand years, no humanity left in him at all. It's a MercyKill for him as well.




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** And she's seventeen. Maybe she doesn't want her surrogate siblings, cousin and older mentor figure to know for definite that she and Tidus did...something in the lake.



** The actual lines from when the reveal happens? (Wakka: "We weren't hiding it", Lulu: "It was just too hard to say") - which should explain it all. They weren't in a situation where the revelation would have to come up until Home.




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** Jecht is intentionally trying to get Tidus to go to Spira so he can help stop the Sin cycle forever. He and Auron planned this together. And for all we know, maybe Dream Zanarkand was destroyed in a similar way when Jecht himself rode Sin to Spira - but Yu Yevon just reset it and made everyone think he'd gone missing.
31st Mar '18 9:11:59 AM thatsnumberwang
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*** They aren't playing a high-impact, high-speed underwater version of soccer whilst doing so though. I think that's where any suggestion that this isn't magical in nature falls flat. Human lungs just are not capable of doing what is being presented here.
30th Mar '18 7:04:49 PM Serasia
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**** A real life example: there is a tribe living on water called the Badjao who go deep-sea fishing on just one breath. Their heartbeats greatly slow down. The tribe members also somehow withstand the pressure of being down that deep. It's probably not the wisest thing to do, as no matter how hard you train, your body and brain are still starving for oxygen. They probably have to work on their focus and force themselves to stay calm and fight the impulse to gasp for air. Some can stay underwater for over five minutes.
29th Mar '18 8:12:22 AM thatsnumberwang
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* When the company meets Seymour on the Mushroom Rock Road, before the Operation Mi'ihen, Wakka asks Seymour why he supports it, even though he is a Maester. Then, in Tidus' narration, he says: "From the first time I laid eyes on him, I never did like Seymour..."
"But you know, some of the things he said that day... They made a lot of sense to me." Ok, so what was it that Seymour said, that made sense to Tidus? And why?

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* When the company meets Seymour on the Mushroom Rock Road, before the Operation Mi'ihen, Wakka asks Seymour why he supports it, even though he is a Maester. Then, in Tidus' narration, he says: "From the first time I laid eyes on him, I never did like Seymour..."
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But you know, some of the things he said that day... They made a lot of sense to me." Ok, so what was it that Seymour said, that made sense to Tidus? And why?
29th Mar '18 8:11:14 AM thatsnumberwang
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** I would personally describe Tidus as an atheist with a deep rebellious streak against anyone in authority and a passionate belief that you should always try to do the right thing no matter what. This is evidenced the most when he blatantly and knowingly disregards Yevon, the priests, Wakka and apparently the laws of the land by charging into the Besaid Cloister of Trials to rescue Yuna despite not having any real evidence that she was in danger. Given this, I think that Tidus is seeing himself mirrored in Seymour here: ''Yeah, you know what, I have this religion to uphold and these guys are blatantly going against it. But seeing as they are only doing so because they think that they can make a difference in the world, then to Hell with what anyone else thinks. Ride on, my friends.'' Its pretty clear that Auron see's this for what it is of course: a very convenient way to weaken both the Crusaders and the Al Bhed whilst strengthening Yevon's grip on the idea that only they can save you from Sin.
29th Mar '18 6:41:40 AM Afruska
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*When the company meets Seymour on the Mushroom Rock Road, before the Operation Mi'ihen, Wakka asks Seymour why he supports it, even though he is a Maester. Then, in Tidus' narration, he says: "From the first time I laid eyes on him, I never did like Seymour..."
"But you know, some of the things he said that day... They made a lot of sense to me." Ok, so what was it that Seymour said, that made sense to Tidus? And why?
18th Dec '17 4:22:35 PM thatsnumberwang
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* Supposedly the reason why Auron keeps his non-sword hand hanging limp inside his coat is because he is a ronin (a samurai without a master) due to the death of Braska. Which is fair enough. But the moment Yuna takes him on as a Guardian, doesn't he in fact now have a master? (or mistress - I don't know if the term is gender specific in this context). Shouldn't that arm go back into his sleeve again? The only thing I can figure is that this is a bit of subtext that he really does not trust or respect Yuna as anything more than Braska's daughter and does not consider her worthy of being his master/mistress. Which, given how badly she handled the whole Seymour situation, I really can't blame that perception.
26th Nov '17 10:41:15 AM nombretomado
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** This makes a lot more sense if you're familiar with Hellenic (ancient Greek) and [[{{Gnosticism}} Gnostic]] philosophy, where the human soul and consciousness comes from fragments of primordial "stuff" that can be shaped and crafted like any another substance. Since the population of Dream Zanarkand is being summoned, that means they're Aeons (which is a Gnostic term). Both Aeons and the souls of Spirans are thus "conscious" or "alive", as they're made out of the same primordial soulstuff, named Pyreflies. The difference is that the Aeons are formed directly out of Pyreflies, and return to Pyreflies when the summoning is over. They're only given material substance by the force of will of the summoner, otherwise they exist only as the very essence of consciousness itself. When the freed essence ends up in the Farplane, it can thus be fashioned like an Aeon from the memories of the visitors, but since it's only the dead who have returned to the Farplane, living people won't show up because their fragments of Pyreflies aren't there. If this sounds like the Lifestream, FFVII also trucked heavily in Gnostic and Hellenic philosophy.

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** This makes a lot more sense if you're familiar with Hellenic (ancient Greek) and [[{{Gnosticism}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Gnosticism}} Gnostic]] philosophy, where the human soul and consciousness comes from fragments of primordial "stuff" that can be shaped and crafted like any another substance. Since the population of Dream Zanarkand is being summoned, that means they're Aeons (which is a Gnostic term). Both Aeons and the souls of Spirans are thus "conscious" or "alive", as they're made out of the same primordial soulstuff, named Pyreflies. The difference is that the Aeons are formed directly out of Pyreflies, and return to Pyreflies when the summoning is over. They're only given material substance by the force of will of the summoner, otherwise they exist only as the very essence of consciousness itself. When the freed essence ends up in the Farplane, it can thus be fashioned like an Aeon from the memories of the visitors, but since it's only the dead who have returned to the Farplane, living people won't show up because their fragments of Pyreflies aren't there. If this sounds like the Lifestream, FFVII also trucked heavily in Gnostic and Hellenic philosophy.
25th Nov '17 11:11:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Yuna being neglected after her father's death. No, not the treatment from the [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer rest of Spira]], that's explainable by FantasticRacism, since Yuna is half-Al Bhed. It's a major dose of WhatTheHellTownspeople, but ItMakesSenseInContext. What bugs me is where was her Uncle Cid all those years?

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* Yuna being neglected after her father's death. No, not the treatment from the [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer rest of Spira]], that's explainable by FantasticRacism, since Yuna is half-Al Bhed. It's a major dose of WhatTheHellTownspeople, but ItMakesSenseInContext. What bugs me is where was her Uncle Cid all those years?
3rd Oct '17 6:52:38 AM cillianflood
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* So here's a pretty big one that I'm very surprised hasn't been mentioned yet. But why on earth did Sin destroy Dream Zanarkand at the start of the game? It's whole reason for existing is to protect the place yet he goes and nukes it! The game is pretty confused itself about how real the place is but the interpretation (supported by Ultamania) that it is in fact a real physical and acts much like an Aeon is the one that makes the most sense with all the facts. I doubt they can just dream everyone better (otherwise they could just magic up a whole army of mechs to defeat sin). Jecht went and killed all his old friends and family just to get Tidus to Spira (and it doesn't even seem like it was necessary since Jecht managed to leave and Auron managed to get to it without any Godzilla sightings. Auron could have just brought Tidus out sailing). Maybe an acceptable measure to finally end the cycle but certainly something OOC for Yu Yevon and Sin. Seems like it was put in just to start the game off with an exciting action sequence and show off Sin.

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* So here's a pretty big one that I'm very surprised hasn't been mentioned yet. But why on earth did Sin destroy Dream Zanarkand at the start of the game? It's whole reason for existing is to protect the place yet he goes and nukes it! The game is pretty confused itself about how real the place is but the interpretation (supported by Ultamania) that it is in fact a real physical place and acts much like an Aeon is the one that makes the most sense with all the facts. I doubt they can just dream everyone better (otherwise why would they could just magic up a whole army of mechs need Sin to defeat sin).protect it at all). Jecht went and killed all his old friends and family just to get Tidus to Spira (and it doesn't even seem like it was necessary since Jecht managed to leave and Auron managed to get to it without any Godzilla sightings. Auron could have just brought Tidus out sailing). Maybe an acceptable measure to finally end the cycle but certainly something OOC for Yu Yevon and Sin. Seems like it was put in just to start the game off with an exciting action sequence and show off Sin.
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