History Headscratchers / Fallout

22nd Nov '17 6:46:45 PM Kaiseror
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[[folder: Brotherhood population]]
The entire Brotherhood of Steel (aside from the chapters who recruit) is descended from an army platoon and their families but how did they get such a large population without becoming massively inbred, just how many members do army platoons usually have?
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20th Nov '17 9:19:23 PM ApeAccount
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** Most holotapes were actually quite small. Presumably the media archives type holotape was quite rare. Even if it was common, it wouldn't necessarily be useful to put all music on it. These days we can sell music digitally but you don't sell a complete media library with thousands of songs to the general public and selling a holotape with thousands of songs would the equivalent of doing so. Also, since the technology doesn't seem to allow you to just skip to a song, it would be inconvenient for the buyer. It would only really work if they'd actually wanted to preserve all music and so created a project specifically to do so. However, in terms of priorities for a nuclear holocaust, that's a small one (and even if it happened, it's probably just sitting it a vault somewhere waiting to be found). As to the question of why only 50s music seems to survive, I'd speculate that maybe there was a resurgence in popularity of 1950s culture in the 2070s. Given the depressing state of the modern world, the 1950s would probably be seen as an idylic time in US history with victory in World War II fresh in the nation's history, familiar enemies and a hopeful economic outlook.
9th Nov '17 9:42:10 PM Monsund
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** Well, don't forget the MadMax movies which, while more from TheEighties than TheFifties, have already been used aesthetically for many aspects of Fallout's post-Great War society (i.e. the PostApunkalypticArmor, AlwaysChaoticEvil [[TheUsualAdversaries Raiders]] in Fallout3, as well as the highwayman [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed Mad Mel]]). Presumably, Post-War Australia may be just like the MadMax Australia of scattered survivors and raider packs zipping around in {{WeaponizedCar}}s - just with the cars [[ILoveNuclearPower powered by nuclear engines]] instead of gasoline, and with more mutated humans and animals to worry about on top of all that.

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** Well, don't forget the MadMax movies which, while more from TheEighties than TheFifties, have already been used aesthetically for many aspects of Fallout's post-Great War society (i.e. the PostApunkalypticArmor, AlwaysChaoticEvil VillainByDefault [[TheUsualAdversaries Raiders]] in Fallout3, as well as the highwayman [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed Mad Mel]]). Presumably, Post-War Australia may be just like the MadMax Australia of scattered survivors and raider packs zipping around in {{WeaponizedCar}}s - just with the cars [[ILoveNuclearPower powered by nuclear engines]] instead of gasoline, and with more mutated humans and animals to worry about on top of all that.
6th Jan '17 1:09:12 AM GhostlyBrony
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** Well the real answer has to do with royalty fees. Even though Zenimax Stuidos and Bethesda are major companies who have produced/published very popular games, licensing music for video games isn't a cheap affair. Plus you get into the issue of speculation of cultural progression. Who will really know what sort of music will be trendy in the year 2077? It's easier to just go for a select few songs to set a mood and stick with that.
** Also worth noting, other music did exist. When you ask Three Dog why the variety of music is so poor, he tells the Lone Wanderer that the music that he plays over the radio is literally the only music that survived the wear and tear of the ages. There were other songs he tried to make work but they were broken beyond repair. So you can simply handwave that the music you hear over the radio in the games isn't representative of all that existed between the 1950s and 2070s, but rather that's all that remains from that time period. Though of course this gets into fridge logic territory when you realize that Holotapes have enough data capacity on them to record the entire Library of Congress if need be, so why can't couldn't they store music on those?
5th Jan '17 6:55:28 AM Bauglir100
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[[folder: Musical Stasis]]
The series is meant to have a 1950s vibe to it, but are we seriously meant to believe that nobody made new music between the 1950s and 2077? No songs from the Beatles, Black Sabbath, Michael Jackson, or their Fallout equivalents? Sure, we got Slipknot and other modern rock bands in ''VideoGame/FalloutBrotherhoodOfSteel'', but...[[FanonDiscontinuity nobody likes to talk about that game]].
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6th Dec '16 7:57:29 PM GhostlyBrony
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** Probably the fact that war and the militaristic culture was never really culturally rejected by Fallout universe Americans. While Hippies and the Peace movement did exist in the FO universe, its clear that they never got anywhere near the traction it did in real life and it is implied that Nixon was never impeached. This led to the embrace of traditional American authoritarian values with nothing to question them, and thus - cultural stagnation.

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** Probably the fact that war and the militaristic culture was never really culturally rejected by Fallout universe Americans. While Hippies and the Peace movement did exist in the FO universe, its clear that they never got anywhere near the traction it did in real life and it is implied that Nixon was never impeached. This led to the embrace of traditional American authoritarian values with nothing to question them, and thus - cultural stagnation.
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6th Dec '16 7:55:04 PM GhostlyBrony
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[[folder: The possible return of nuclear weapons]]
* This is more hypothetical than anything else but I'm curious how the writers of Fallout plan to handle the issue of a strong military force attaining nuclear weapons in future games. To be blunt, in light of the NCR's success in the West Coast and the Eastern Brotherhood of Steel bringing steady progress to the East Coast, civilization is going to return at some point in the future. What I'm wondering is how are these groups going to treat nuclear weapons when the option of attaining one presents itself? Not only are there a number of nuclear weapons left over from before the war (The Divide, Megaton, etc.) but eventually these factions will learn how to weaponize nuclear material like their ancestors did and create new ones. Do you think the cultural stigma surrounding nuclear weapons, after they ravaged the planet, will make it socially unacceptable for civilians to accept the presence of nuclear weapons in a military arsenal? Or do you think they're doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past and use nuclear weapons in warfare again?
11th Oct '16 6:22:16 AM Wercury
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** They're also Mr. Handys, not Gutsys.
27th Aug '16 8:23:17 AM erforce
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** While I mostly agree with you, that last sentence bugs me. Ahem, two words. [[GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]].

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** While I mostly agree with you, that last sentence bugs me. Ahem, two words. [[GuardiansOfTheGalaxy [[Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy Rocket Raccoon]].
19th Aug '16 8:20:17 PM Red_King
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** Check out the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/MetroLastLight Metro Series]] for an example of what Fallout Russia might look like

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** Check out the [[http://tvtropes.the[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Metro2033 Metro]] [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/MetroLastLight Metro Series]] for an example of what Fallout Russia might look like
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