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** Most likely, magic existed in the Old World ''originally'', but the gods took it with them when they left. Senna's explanation of how her powers are stronger in Everworld than in the Old World implies that it is the abundance of a particular resource(the glow) in Everworld that fuels magic, as opposed to the rules being different.

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** Most likely, magic existed in the Old World ''originally'', but the gods took it with them when they left. Senna's explanation of how her powers are stronger in Everworld than in the Old World implies that it is the abundance of a particular resource(the resource (the glow) in Everworld that fuels magic, as opposed to the rules being different.
** Indeed, the fact Senna has any powers in the Old World shows there is magic there, it's just weaker.

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** Also, keep in mind that, even when she had the Sennites with her, Senna considered the core four a crucial threat and [[BadBoss very]] [[YouHaveFailedMe harshly]] [[ManOnFire punished]] one Sennite for failing to capture them. Never at any point did she decide that they were useless and not worth her attention. Even if she had decided that she no longer wanted them, she would still have very strongly desired to eliminate the threat they posed in any way that she could.

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** Also, keep in mind that, even when she had the Sennites with her, Senna considered the core four a crucial threat and [[BadBoss very]] [[YouHaveFailedMe harshly]] [[ManOnFire very harshly punished]] one Sennite for failing to capture them. Never at any point did she decide that they were useless and not worth her attention. Even if she had decided that she no longer wanted them, she would still have very strongly desired to eliminate the threat they posed in any way that she could.
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*** Ever since Everworld was created, it's technological level has maintained a MedievalStasis. Weaponry is limited to swords, arrows, and sorcery. You can't kill a god with Everworld-type weapons because they simply don't do enough damage. A similar situation in other media is the demon known as "The Judge" in ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. Sure, in Medieval times, no weapon forged could kill him. But weaponry had advanced quite a bit in 600 years and a rocket launcher did the job just fine. Plus, as a modern weapon [[LoopholeAbuse it would have been rolled, cast, or welded rather than forged.]]
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-->'''Applegate''': In an exhausted, burned out wheeze. By the 4th {{Remnants}} and the next to last Everworld, [[CreatorBreakdown we were burned out. Really done for.]] 150 books between 1989 and whatever it was, 2000. It was nuts and we had to stop. We didn't write at all for about 5 years.

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-->'''Applegate''': In an exhausted, burned out wheeze. By the 4th {{Remnants}} Literature/{{Remnants}} and the next to last Everworld, [[CreatorBreakdown we were burned out. Really done for.]] 150 books between 1989 and whatever it was, 2000. It was nuts and we had to stop. We didn't write at all for about 5 years.
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*** I think that her saying that was in reference to her having to go seek out her mother.
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*** Another thing to consider, and don't quote me on this its been awhile since I read the book, but I could have sworn Loki was in serious morning after Fenrir was gunned down, along with the death of the gateway(senna), causing him ally with the four protagonists and the Olympians. He released Odin from whatever place he had him captured. Even if the modern military could gun down any of the old gods, as bizarre as the interactions between Everworld and earth are who is to say it wouldn't cause some [[{{Drakengard}} terrible]] [[{{NieR}} things]] to happen anyway?

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*** Another thing to consider, and don't quote me on this its been awhile since I read the book, but I could have sworn Loki was in serious morning after Fenrir was gunned down, along with the death of the gateway(senna), causing him ally with the four protagonists and the Olympians. He released Odin from whatever place he had him captured. Even if the modern military could gun down any of the old gods, as bizarre as the interactions between Everworld and earth are who is to say it wouldn't cause some [[{{Drakengard}} [[VideoGame/{{Drakengard}} terrible]] [[{{NieR}} [[VideoGame/{{NieR}} things]] to happen anyway?
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**Eunuchs weren't always just harem guards in history. I refer you to the Assyrian Empire, Babylon, and even the Eastern Roman Empire. They were quite fearsome warriors and officers, the castration served as an insurance to their loyalty for their king, not their family, and several scholars suspect that they were the original Amazons. Maybe as a Viking goddess, she also wanted warriors who were exceptionally loyal to her?
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** Remember that Senna knew what was going to happen before it did. She knew Loki was after her. That's why she reached out to the others and brought them to the lake at the beginning. She has plans for each of them (i.e. controlling David through his insecurities and Jalil through his OCD). When they didn't follow her, she was essentially playing XanatosSpeedChess through the whole series. She also kept them four alive because they were people that only she could predict and control. They were a secret weapon unlike anything else in Everworld.
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* Senna's mom creates all sorts of issues. Why did they not ask ''her'' to send them home? How did she stay hidden from gods like Loki? And now that the Greeks, at least, know about her and Loki is on their side, wouldn't he go back to Plan A once he learns about her?
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*** Another thing to consider, and don't quote me on this its been awhile since I read the book, but I could have sworn Loki was in serious morning after Fenrir was gunned down, along with the death of the gateway(senna), causing him ally with the four protagonists and the Olympians. He released Odin from whatever place he had him captured. Even if the modern military could gun down any of the old gods, as bizarre as the interactions between Everworld and earth are who is to say it wouldn't cause some [[{{Drakengard}} terrible]] [[{{NieR}} things]] to happen anyway?
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*** Because non castrated men would fall susceptible to her powers, rendering them useless in her present. Besides, as the above troper pointed out, she wouldn't want women, because they might play with her toys.
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*** She is really sadistic in general, maybe she just castrates them for fun?

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** Or maybe they require certain male brain chemistry, in which case male-to-female transgendered people would be unaffected, while female-to-male would be affected.

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** Or maybe they require certain male brain chemistry, in which case male-to-female transgendered transgender people would be unaffected, while female-to-male would be affected.
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*** Granted, but keep in mind that Hel's powers didn't work on April. There's evidence for both outcomes, really. Whether a gay man or lesbian woman would be attracted to Hel is really up for grabs. Jalil theorizes that the enchantment is "targeted" at males, but who knows for sure?

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** Senna most certainly was not powerful enough to casually dominate the minds of the core four from the beginning. It tires her out to do it near the end of the series (with her powers having increased exponentially over time) in Everworld (where, once again, her powers are a lot more impressive). That being said, she isn't powerless in the real world; she was capable of bewitching David and reaching out to him in his dreams. April and Senna both talk about how she would often mess with April's memory, and she once scared the shit out of April by casting an illusion to make herself appear as Gollum one night when they were both children. However, these are all things which presumably sapped her reserves quite a bit. They're also quite subtle and quite possibly took time to put in place, particularly with the memory-tweaking and bewitching David. David, it should be noted, was a special case as he already had demons in his closet and had an ACTUAL attraction to Senna; it wasn't purely magic at work.
** During my Fridge Logic reflections on the series, I always sort of wondered why Senna didn't take steps to eliminate the core four in the real world during Book 11. As mentioned above, she clearly saw them as a considerable threat. They were helping to single-handedly hold a castle against her army of Sennites and causing considerable casualties in the process. It doesn't seem implausible that she'd order some of the Sennites to murder them in the real world, or possibly kidnap them/their families for leverage. With how powerful she was by Book 11, there are a lot of creative ways she could have gone into the real world and taken them out, it seems. Conversely, I suppose it's possible she didn't want the attention that multiple murders/kidnappings would cause in a suburban neighborhood. The authorities investigating the crimes and tracing them back to the Sennite network dismantle the whole system. In addition, was Senna even aware that killing one version of the core four would also kill the one in the other universe?
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*** Well, normally I would agree with that. However, dialogue from multiple characters seems to point toward more or less consistent amounts of durability between the gods, at least in regards to mortals harming them. It's talked about like it's a universal thing.
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*** Just a bit of FridgeLogic here: It's not that the series flip-flops, it's that these different events happen in different domains and with different gods, which are subject to different rules. Hell, as is seen with dragons and the African gods, even the laws of physics aren't the same from place to place.
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*** The series flip-flops on this issue to no end throughout the books. At first it's stated by the Vikings that only gods or mortals wielding the weapon of a god can harm a deity. Mjolnir does major damage to Huitzilopotchli, like you said, as can be expected. However, the protagonists also attacked the Aztec god's foot with their standard weapons. The book states that their swords and axes bit deep into the flesh of his foot (the only thing they could reach), but drew no blood. Later, the Knights of the Round Table gang up on Loki. They do some decent damage to him throughout the ensuing battles, but never manage to kill him. Finally a dragon engulfs him in the equivalent of napalm. Galahad states that even this wouldn't kill Loki and clarifies mortal creatures can temporarily diminish and incapacitate a god, but not kill them. This is backed up by the fact that Loki doesn't show up again until the very end of the series. There are your examples with Ganymede/Dionysus, and it's worth noting that Christopher said not even a god could survive the fall into the crater surrounding Junkie Dreamtown; granted, he's hardly a reliable source. Christopher stabs an African minor god with a bronze spear, which forms a "dent" in his chest but does not pierce the skin or cause any lasting damage. The Egyptian ram god that Keith fires may or may not have been seriously harmed; Senna doesn't stick around to watch the results. Keith apparently survived, though. There are other examples, but the best evidence for the gods being vulnerable is (as noted below), the death of Fenrir. It's implied that he's very, very dead after the barrage of gunfire. I always assumed that gods can be killed by mortals with mortal weapons, but it's very difficult due to their inherent resistance to physical damage and relatively fast regeneration. It's just a matter of doing a lot of heavy damage in a short amount of time (not to mention being thorough). This difficulty mixed with superstition created the attitude among Everworlders that gods are mostly invulnerable to mortal weapons. This is understandable, since it's easier to do a lot of damage with guns and high explosives than with swords and spears.

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*** The series flip-flops on this issue to no end throughout the books. At first it's stated by the Vikings that only gods or mortals wielding the weapon of a god can harm a deity. Mjolnir does major damage to Huitzilopotchli, like you said, as can be expected. However, the protagonists also attacked the Aztec god's foot with their standard weapons. The book states that their swords and axes bit deep into the flesh of his foot (the only thing they could reach), but drew no blood. Later, the Knights of the Round Table gang up on Loki. They do some decent damage to him throughout the ensuing battles, but never manage to kill him. Finally a dragon engulfs him in the equivalent of napalm. Galahad states that even this wouldn't kill Loki and clarifies mortal creatures can temporarily diminish and incapacitate a god, but not kill them. This is backed up by the fact that Loki doesn't show up again until the very end of the series. There are your examples with Ganymede/Dionysus, and it's worth noting that Christopher said not even a god could survive the fall into the crater surrounding Junkie Dreamtown; granted, he's hardly a reliable source. Christopher stabs an African minor god with a bronze spear, which forms a "dent" in his chest but does not pierce the skin or cause any lasting damage. The Egyptian ram god that Keith fires at may or may not have been seriously harmed; Senna doesn't stick around to watch the results. Keith apparently survived, though. There are other examples, but the best evidence for the gods being vulnerable is (as noted below), the death of Fenrir. It's implied that he's very, very dead after the barrage of gunfire. I always assumed that gods can be killed by mortals with mortal weapons, but it's very difficult due to their inherent resistance to physical damage and relatively fast regeneration. It's just a matter of doing a lot of heavy damage in a short amount of time (not to mention being thorough). This difficulty mixed with superstition created the attitude among Everworlders that gods are mostly invulnerable to mortal weapons. This is understandable, since it's easier to do a lot of damage with guns and high explosives than with swords and spears.

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** In [[VillainEpisode book 9]], it's revealed that it only affects plants. Kind of a [[WhatKindofLamePowerIsHeartAnyway useless power, really]].

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** In [[VillainEpisode book 9]], it's revealed that it only affects plants. Kind of a [[WhatKindofLamePowerIsHeartAnyway [[UselessSuperpower useless power, really]].

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** Here's the author talking about it during [[http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/gzhau/iam_ka_applegate_author_of_animorphs_and_many/ an AMA on Reddit]], if this clears anything up:
-->'''Reddit user''': Are you satisfied with how [=EverWorld=] ended? It wasn't very satisfactory as a reader. Can you explain why you ended it the way you did?
-->'''Applegate''': I'm not happy with the EW ending. Basically I overcommitted. We could keep up with 140 pages a month -- barely -- but Everworld was 250. We got in over our heads.
-->'''Different Reddit user''': how does EW end?
-->'''Applegate''': In an exhausted, burned out wheeze. By the 4th {{Remnants}} and the next to last Everworld, [[CreatorBreakdown we were burned out. Really done for.]] 150 books between 1989 and whatever it was, 2000. It was nuts and we had to stop. We didn't write at all for about 5 years.

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