History Headscratchers / EndersGame

22nd Mar '17 3:31:32 PM gothelittle
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** Keep in mind how Ender learned how to socialize - mostly by dealing with his brother Peter and his sister Valentine. Though Valentine managed to figure out enough about Peter to partly manipulate him through understanding his pragmatism, to Ender, he was a daily and ongoing example that no matter how much you empathize or love, you can't turn the bully into a friend. Naturally he wouldn't think that enemies could be befriended. Just beaten enough that they stop hurting you. In the beginning parts of the book, he tries several different tactics in hopes of getting Peter to stop hurting him, and none of them work.
10th Feb '17 6:01:08 AM BenOfHouston
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** The audioplay makes it more confusing as Graff casually calls Valentine Demosthenes in the scene at the lake, as a veiled threat of making her identity public.
3rd Nov '16 6:15:48 PM Sharlee
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** There was probably an element of self-learning intended also: the Formics were just barely starting to comprehend that humans were individual minds, not a HiveMind, and knew they needed to explore that radical concept if they were ever to relate to humans peacefully. Letting their own numbers be cut back to just ''one'' queen, who'd experience her formative years of life as a solitary individual until she could breed, would give their species that perspective on individuality that they desperately needed.

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** *** There was probably an element of self-learning self-education intended also: the Formics were just barely starting to comprehend that humans were individual minds, not a HiveMind, and knew they needed to explore that radical concept if they were ever to relate to humans peacefully. Letting their own numbers be cut back to just ''one'' queen, who'd experience her formative years of life as a solitary individual until she could breed, would give their species that perspective on individuality that they desperately needed.
6th Jul '16 2:20:30 PM DarkHunter
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*** When they did that, they still didn't think humans were sapient. They viewed human constructions as we might view an anthill: complex natural structures, but not indicative of true intelligence. When they finally ''did'' figure it out, they knew exactly what was coming for them, and even believed, on some level, that they deserved it. "The humans have not forgiven us; we shall surely die."

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*** When they did that, they still didn't think individual humans were sapient. They assumed that the masses they were slaughtering were drones of a single, well-protected Queen-analogue. The Scouring of China was their way of "claiming" the land. Aggressive? Yes, but viewed human constructions by themselves on the same level as we might view an anthill: complex natural structures, but destroying a construction company's equipment, not indicative of true intelligence.mass-murder. When they finally ''did'' figure it out, they knew exactly what was coming for them, and even believed, on some level, that they deserved it. "The humans have not forgiven us; we shall surely die."
6th Jul '16 2:17:45 PM DarkHunter
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*** When they did that, they still didn't think humans were sapient. They viewed human constructions as we might view an anthill: complex natural structures, but not indicative of true intelligence. When they finally ''did'' figure it out, they knew exactly what was coming for them, and even believed, on some level, that they deserved it. "The humans have not forgiven us; we shall surely die."
30th May '16 12:22:16 PM BenOfHouston
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** Another thing, back in Ender's first battle, one half-frozen kid was able to take out 10 of a 14-person group while they were performing the victory ritual. Trying it with the team still in play would be impossible. The only reason Ender's tactic worked was the huge human shield that involved sacrificing his entire force in a single, desperate gamble, and there wasn't a single opposing person dead-on at the gate to stop them. It was practically a BatmanGambit and SuicideAttack rolled into one.
16th Apr '16 9:45:44 PM Sharlee
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** There was probably an element of self-learning intended also: the Formics were just barely starting to comprehend that humans were individual minds, not a HiveMind, and knew they needed to comprehend that idea more fully if they were to relate to humans peacefully. Letting their own numbers be cut back to just ''one'' queen, who'd experience her formative years of life as a solitary individual until she could breed, would give their species that perspective on individuality that they desperately needed.

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** There was probably an element of self-learning intended also: the Formics were just barely starting to comprehend that humans were individual minds, not a HiveMind, and knew they needed to comprehend explore that idea more fully radical concept if they were ever to relate to humans peacefully. Letting their own numbers be cut back to just ''one'' queen, who'd experience her formative years of life as a solitary individual until she could breed, would give their species that perspective on individuality that they desperately needed.
16th Apr '16 9:44:28 PM Sharlee
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** There was probably an element of self-learning intended also: the Formics were just barely starting to comprehend that humans were individual minds, not a HiveMind, and knew they needed to comprehend that idea more fully if they were to relate to humans peacefully. Letting their own numbers be cut back to just ''one'' queen, who'd experience her formative years of life as a solitary individual until she could breed, would give their species that perspective on individuality that they desperately needed.
6th Apr '16 8:14:05 AM RedDingo
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** Being able to understand and empathize does not make Ender a damn mind reader nor does it make him a fortuneteller. It also does not suddenly make him the world's best diplomat either. Even if he is a prodigy, he was still a kid prone to same the same errors in judgment and irrational fears that plague most children his age. Part of the struggle in the story is Ender learning how deal with the insight he gains from his interaction with others. Just because he understands his bullies does not mean he suddenly knows exactly how to resolve his conflict with them in a non-destructive manner. It does not even guarantee that such a solution even exists.
7th Jun '15 2:19:31 PM MisterKerr
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