History Headscratchers / DoctorWhoSeries6

15th May '17 5:16:31 PM AthenaBlue
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* When House is messing with the heroes and removes all the air from the TARDIS, the Doctor speaks and we hear his words. That is not how sound works.
** He can't have removed ''all'' the air or Rory and Amy, at least, would have suffocated. He was probably just slowly getting rid of it so as to make them uncomfortable and - if not persuaded to stop - give them a slower, more "entertaining" death.
** The Doctor has a [[BizarreAlienBiology respitory bypass system]], which allows him to go without air. Alternatively, he has very big lungs. A few seconds without air won't kill you.
*** [[{{FridgeBrilliance}} His lungs are bigger on the inside.]]
** Also I'm fairly sure House didn't have a Mouth in the first place, it seemed more like a psychic thing which wouldn't need air either way.

* The long-dead Rory that Amy finds wrote "Kill/Hate/Die Amy" all over the hallway. The red parts I can see how (Blood) but unless he was carrying a can of spray paint when he got trapped how did he write the black parts?
** It was a hallucination so it didn't have to make perfect sense, though if you want a better answer Rory might still have been carrying the pen from Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon.
** Even if he didn't, it's hardly the biggest leap of narrative logic to suggest that he might have had or found a black pen at some point in the ''decades'' he was supposedly trapped in that section of the TARDIS.
** Rory acquired spray paint from the same place he got several decades of age and a long gray beard: Amy's hallucination.
** Is it really that hard to buy that he simply happened to have a writing implement on his person? Especially since "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship" establishes he's ''known'' for carrying random stuff in his pockets "just in case".

* At one point, Sexy is getting on the Doctor's case for not opening the doors of the TARDIS the right way - the sign on the door says pull to open, and he pushes. Wouldn't this have more to do with the way the hinges are placed on the door than it does with the Doctor being contrary on purpose?
** Presumably the door can open either way.
** Fun fact: The sign on the door doesn't talk about the door, it talks about the little box that contains the telephone.
*** [[http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yU36GLlIzak/TnVLqTnXDXI/AAAAAAAADzg/dG97OUYMAuo/s320/tardis_door_sign_by_tibots.jpg Oh wait.]]
* Sexy is an 11 dimensional matrix. House flew the naked Tardis. House must be an 11D matrix.
** Sexy is an 11 dimensional matrix capable of traveling through time and space practically without limitation. House flew a box through a rift. I see nothing in the episode to indicate that he could have used the TARDIS in the same way Sexy could. He just needed an intact ship to travel through the rift back to the normal universe, and he'd eaten all the others.
** No, no, no, no... Sexy is the 11-dimensional mind (more on that in a while) for the probably 11-dimensional body that the [=TARDIS=] is. Possibly House can handle that, possibly not, but he doesn't seem all that cautious in his proceedings, merely doing what seems a good idea at the moment. Also, he's kind of a predator for [=TARDISes=], so it makes sense that he can perceive all the dimensions they can hide in (imagine an earthbound predator that hunts squirrels - they can run up a tree! It's an advantage for a predator to be able to follow them there). We can only perceive three spatial dimensions, like a slime mould that only slithers on the forest floor can only perceive two, but that doesn't mean there aren't more, unless you're Creator/{{Aristotle}} (who once said something to this effect).
** A real problem is the 11-dimensional mind. Or, to be exact, the fact that this mind perceives more dimensions of ''time'' (space's easy, read Literature/{{Flatland}} and Bob's your uncle). Time, though, is tied to causality. Specifically, consider a sequence of events:
--> The Doctor is fixing a thing//The Doctor needs a tool//He asks his companion to fetch it//She does//He goes on working//
It stops making sense when you take linear causality out of it - why would she bring the laser spanner over if she wasn't asked to? How could he commence work if he didn't get the tool necessary? More, our very ''communication'' depends on the linearity of time - you can't read these words until they get posted. [[SelfDemonstratingArticle were And sense if they to make wouldn't sequence order, be able without the entire out of you]]. Not to mention the chaos that'd ensue if the letters got scrambled, which is only a shade of how a non-linear mind would (probably) perceive her world. So, if Sexy is made for a non-linear living, how can she even ''comprehend'' the idea of a question? The whole "answering Rory before he asks stuff" shtick of hers doesn't hold water. This is not a critique of the writer's ability - he just set before himself an impossible task.

* Sexy only took on the form of a police box after she and the Doctor stole each other. If she was being literal when she described herself as being "a museum piece" when the Doctor first saw her, what did her exterior shell look like at the time? She would have been on display as a TARDIS, and a TARDIS is meant to disguise itself to blend in with its surroundings. So what does something with no fixed shape look like when it's supposed to look like itself?
** A literal museum artifact?
** A TARDIS on display in a museum would naturally be disguised as the display plaque describing said TARDIS to the museum patrons. Saves on plaques that way.
** If I remember correctly, one of the comics shows them as boring-looking pastel-coloured cubes.
** The type-40 TARDIS the Doctor uses was an outdated model when the Doctor was young, making her older than dirt. Sexy was just using an expression to remind everyone of how old she is, not trying to imply that she was literally in a museum.
** I would agree that the museum comment was metaphorical. It's been said before that she was 'in the shop' getting fixed when the Doctor stole her, but assuming she was in her default state at the time, she would've looked like a long white rectangular...thing (which is what defaulted ones looked like when they were seen briefly in the classic series).
** We see several [=TARDISes=] in the repair shop from which the First Doctor stole the TARDIS in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor "The Name of the Doctor"]]. [=TARDISes=] are bio-grown, and don't reach maturity until they're several hundred years old. The TARDIS was old and outdated by newer models when the Doctor stole her, meaning she was probably around 1,000 years old or more. All [=TARDISes=] come with chameleon circuits, so they can be disguised -- in ancient Rome a TARDIS might look like a plinth, in frontier America it might look like a teepee. Sexy looks like a police box because her chameleon circuit is broken. (In the 20th century we have seen her look like a pipe organ, a painted cabinet, and a fancy gateway.) The Ninth Doctor explained that he hadn't fixed the chameleon circuit because he LIKES the police-box look.

* As the Doctor gets to talk directly to the Tardis for the first time ever, why didn't he ask her what made her explode at the end of the last series?
** I do believe the Silence blew it up. If not, he's too busy saying "HOLY RASSILON IT'S THE ''TARDIS'' IT'S MY '''TARDIS''' WAIT UNTIL I TELL THE MASTER oh wait he's dead..."
** Didn't he already put two and two together back in the opening episodes?
** There's no concrete evidence that Sexy knows who or what blew her up. Not to mention that she wouldn't be comfortable with talking about it. At all.
*** I think she probably does assuming that she was blown up from the inside or the explosion was caused by something anywhere near her. Of course, she's not very good at keeping time linear so perhaps it didn't occur to her that she needed to tell that information.
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5th May '17 11:58:15 PM doctorwho29
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**Keeping Amy's Ganger around would mean the real Amy would be unconscious and unable to help herself in anyway. Amy's Ganger was not thinking and living, it was a shell for her mind to be in. True they could have kept Amy there to help rescue herself but the link needed to be broken so the Doctor could be at his most effective in hunting her. Can't have the enemy watching in.
27th Feb '17 8:26:31 AM Sinister_Sandwich
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* Amy leaves Madame Kovarian to die at the hands of the Silence when they overload her eye-drive. This is all well and good, but why is it that everybody, including Tropers and the series itself, treat the character as dead? That scene took place in an alternative, collapsing universe that was undone by the end of the episode, so Madame Kovarian should still be alive!
21st Feb '17 10:43:31 PM DoctorNemesis
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** This is all the point; it's crazy and illogical, something which doesn't make sense and shouldn't work but which somehow does. It's because time is collapsing in on itself and nothing is making sense anymore. Asking what the logic behind time being permanently 5.02PM despite the fact that it would be different in other timezones, Churchill being the Holy Roman Emperor and cars flying around propelled by hot-air balloons is, to be honest, a little silly, since it's trying to apply logic to a situation that fundamentally involves the complete breaking down of logic.

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** This is all the point; it's crazy and illogical, something which doesn't make sense and shouldn't work but which somehow does. It's because time is collapsing in on itself and itself, everything in Earth history that ever happened is all happening at once in the exact same minute, nothing is making sense anymore.anymore, and Time is just frantically trying to stitch itself back together in a way that makes some kind of sense. Asking what the logic behind time being permanently 5.02PM despite the fact that it would be different in other timezones, Churchill being the Holy Roman Emperor and cars flying around propelled by hot-air balloons is, to be honest, a little silly, since it's trying to apply logic to a situation that fundamentally involves the complete breaking down of logic.
28th Jan '17 5:25:04 PM Wyldchyld
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* Am I the only one who thinks Amy has become a massive hypocrite? Now I do like her, [[MsFanservice excluding]] [[PerverseSexualLust the]] [[LovableSexManiac obvious]] [[FetishFuel reasons,]] but Amy's reaction to a smitten Rory smelled of DoubleStandard. First off, it's ''[[TheVamp a Siren.]]'' Secondly, the man spent almost 1900 years protecting you in when the universe was [[RetGone almost non-existent]]-I think he deserves to be pervy for once. Finally, you're one to talk-I saw you checking out the Doctor (though this is [[MrFanservice Matt Smith]] we're talking about) and [[ScrewYourself your future self]]. Yet you chastise him for this and [[TwinThreesomeFantasy thinking about]] [[ScrewYourself your self-flirting]] (and by the way, both Ponds are literally the same person). [[UnfortunateImplications What am I supposed to take from this?]] [[DoubleStandard Women can be perverts, yet guys will be called out for it?]] Yeah, I'm starting to like you [[MsFanservice for only one reason.]] [[ChivalrousPervert And I don't want that.]]

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* Am I the only one who thinks Amy has become a massive hypocrite? Now I do like her, [[MsFanservice excluding]] [[PerverseSexualLust the]] [[LovableSexManiac obvious]] [[FetishFuel reasons,]] obvious reasons]], but Amy's reaction to a smitten Rory smelled of DoubleStandard. First off, it's ''[[TheVamp a Siren.]]'' Secondly, the man spent almost 1900 years protecting you in when the universe was [[RetGone almost non-existent]]-I think he deserves to be pervy for once. Finally, you're one to talk-I saw you checking out the Doctor (though this is [[MrFanservice Matt Smith]] we're talking about) and [[ScrewYourself your future self]]. Yet you chastise him for this and [[TwinThreesomeFantasy thinking about]] [[ScrewYourself your self-flirting]] (and by the way, both Ponds are literally the same person). [[UnfortunateImplications What am I supposed to take from this?]] [[DoubleStandard Women can be perverts, yet guys will be called out for it?]] Yeah, I'm starting to like you [[MsFanservice for only one reason.]] [[ChivalrousPervert And I don't want that.]]
5th Jan '17 11:26:29 AM SeptimusHeap
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* I'm amazed this one isn't here: when could the Doctor and his ganger have swapped shoes, since neither of them were in a room on their own together ([[FreudWasRight minds out the gutter please]]) and it was clearly the ganger who caused Amy to panic when he talked about the melting down of the Flesh (unless the Doctor is that good an actor he pretended it, but that would be a HUGE coincidence for him to be right).

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* I'm amazed this one isn't here: when could the Doctor and his ganger have swapped shoes, since neither of them were in a room on their own together ([[FreudWasRight minds out the gutter please]]) and it was clearly the ganger who caused Amy to panic when he talked about the melting down of the Flesh (unless the Doctor is that good an actor he pretended it, but that would be a HUGE coincidence for him to be right).
9th Sep '16 8:23:16 PM DoctorNemesis
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** The Doctor's ''already'' pretty depressed at that point (although he's doing a good job of covering it up), and then he learns that one of his oldest and best friends in the entire universe has died, and he didn't and never will get a chance to say goodbye. He's already about as low as he's likely to go at that point, so adding the news that ''another'' of his oldest and best friends has ''also'' died and he ''also'' hasn't and won't get a chance to say goodbye is just kicking him when he's already down.
22nd Jul '16 1:28:19 PM inspibrain101
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*** Presumably, she was met with the Space-Time authorities on the other end, and escorted to her new pad in Stormcage.
22nd Jul '16 1:26:01 PM inspibrain101
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*** Come to think of it, the presence of two Rivers may have been one of the things that contributed to this fixed point.
22nd Jul '16 1:07:25 AM Tuomas
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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.

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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", this episode, then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.
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