History Headscratchers / DoctorWhoSeries6

9th Sep '16 8:23:16 PM DoctorNemesis
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** The Doctor's ''already'' pretty depressed at that point (although he's doing a good job of covering it up), and then he learns that one of his oldest and best friends in the entire universe has died, and he didn't and never will get a chance to say goodbye. He's already about as low as he's likely to go at that point, so adding the news that ''another'' of his oldest and best friends has ''also'' died and he ''also'' hasn't and won't get a chance to say goodbye is just kicking him when he's already down.
22nd Jul '16 1:28:19 PM inspibrain101
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*** Presumably, she was met with the Space-Time authorities on the other end, and escorted to her new pad in Stormcage.
22nd Jul '16 1:26:01 PM inspibrain101
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*** Come to think of it, the presence of two Rivers may have been one of the things that contributed to this fixed point.
22nd Jul '16 1:07:25 AM Tuomas
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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.

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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", this episode, then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.
22nd Jul '16 1:06:06 AM Tuomas
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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.
21st Jul '16 9:44:40 PM inspibrain101
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*** Time is collapsing around their ears, and you're asking why it is the Time Zones are screwed up? Honestly, the way things are mashed up around here, it's a surprise ''gravity'' is still in effect!
21st Jul '16 9:38:19 PM inspibrain101
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*** He speculates. He said I never realised..., so he was wrong at least once. Who's to say he was right the second time? And the thing about translations is that languages rarely translate 'directly', and the nuances of a word can shift very quickly, so even a 'direct' translation is by no means the most accurate. Whatever language the prophesy was originally written in could have many words with differing meanings that someone might translate as 'silence' (assuming it's only been translated once and not through several languages before it reaches the audience).

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*** He speculates. He said I never realised..., so he was wrong at least once. Who's to say he was right the second time? And the thing about translations is that languages rarely translate 'directly', and the nuances of a word can shift very quickly, so even a 'direct' translation is by no means the most accurate. Whatever language the prophesy was originally written in could have many words with differing meanings that someone might translate as 'silence' (assuming it's only been translated once and not through several languages before it reaches the audience).audience)
** Translation: when whomever is supposed to ask the all-important question (Doctor Who?) finally asks said question, everybody will be silent, because no one will know the answer. Like when your algebra teacher asks a question about some equation and no one was paying attention, and suddenly he says, "Timmy! What does X equal?" Silence falls. Like that! Basically, they really don't want that question to be answered. (Which kind of stinks, since the rest of us have been watching since 1963 just to find the answer to this stinkin' question!)
21st Jul '16 9:11:46 PM inspibrain101
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*** The size of the facilities seem to indicate that they were meant to hold multiple people. Perhaps the Red Waterfall Zone was meant to hold all of the patients at once. Of course, then you realize that the entire facility is [[FridgeHorror completely empty...]]
21st Jul '16 8:51:44 PM inspibrain101
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** Time Travel shenanigans: while this episode does involve the Silence, this is, from the Silence' perspective, one of their first encounters with the Doctor. Amy was kidnapped and replaced off-screen, some time between her honeymoon and her investigation of the orphanage, long enough for her to get pregnant, but before it would start to show. The vision of Madame Kovarian means that Amy has been replaced. We never saw when or where exactly she was replaced, and we may never know. My personal theory is that she was kidnapped earlier in the episode, when she first saw one of the Silents. It could work; Silents kidnap and replace her, and even if River, Rory, and the Doctor put up a fight, the minute the Silence run off with their prize, they've forgotten there was even a fight.
21st Jul '16 7:04:05 PM inspibrain101
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*** False; When the TARDIS refers to herself as a "museum piece", she means it metaphorically, as in, she was so old she belonged in a museum. Canonically, the TARDIS was stolen from a repair shop.
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