History Headscratchers / DoctorWhoSeries6

27th Feb '17 8:26:31 AM Sinister_Sandwich
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* Amy leaves Madame Kovarian to die at the hands of the Silence when they overload her eye-drive. This is all well and good, but why is it that everybody, including Tropers and the series itself, treat the character as dead? That scene took place in an alternative, collapsing universe that was undone by the end of the episode, so Madame Kovarian should still be alive!
21st Feb '17 10:43:31 PM DoctorNemesis
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** This is all the point; it's crazy and illogical, something which doesn't make sense and shouldn't work but which somehow does. It's because time is collapsing in on itself and nothing is making sense anymore. Asking what the logic behind time being permanently 5.02PM despite the fact that it would be different in other timezones, Churchill being the Holy Roman Emperor and cars flying around propelled by hot-air balloons is, to be honest, a little silly, since it's trying to apply logic to a situation that fundamentally involves the complete breaking down of logic.

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** This is all the point; it's crazy and illogical, something which doesn't make sense and shouldn't work but which somehow does. It's because time is collapsing in on itself and itself, everything in Earth history that ever happened is all happening at once in the exact same minute, nothing is making sense anymore.anymore, and Time is just frantically trying to stitch itself back together in a way that makes some kind of sense. Asking what the logic behind time being permanently 5.02PM despite the fact that it would be different in other timezones, Churchill being the Holy Roman Emperor and cars flying around propelled by hot-air balloons is, to be honest, a little silly, since it's trying to apply logic to a situation that fundamentally involves the complete breaking down of logic.
28th Jan '17 5:25:04 PM Wyldchyld
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* Am I the only one who thinks Amy has become a massive hypocrite? Now I do like her, [[MsFanservice excluding]] [[PerverseSexualLust the]] [[LovableSexManiac obvious]] [[FetishFuel reasons,]] but Amy's reaction to a smitten Rory smelled of DoubleStandard. First off, it's ''[[TheVamp a Siren.]]'' Secondly, the man spent almost 1900 years protecting you in when the universe was [[RetGone almost non-existent]]-I think he deserves to be pervy for once. Finally, you're one to talk-I saw you checking out the Doctor (though this is [[MrFanservice Matt Smith]] we're talking about) and [[ScrewYourself your future self]]. Yet you chastise him for this and [[TwinThreesomeFantasy thinking about]] [[ScrewYourself your self-flirting]] (and by the way, both Ponds are literally the same person). [[UnfortunateImplications What am I supposed to take from this?]] [[DoubleStandard Women can be perverts, yet guys will be called out for it?]] Yeah, I'm starting to like you [[MsFanservice for only one reason.]] [[ChivalrousPervert And I don't want that.]]

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* Am I the only one who thinks Amy has become a massive hypocrite? Now I do like her, [[MsFanservice excluding]] [[PerverseSexualLust the]] [[LovableSexManiac obvious]] [[FetishFuel reasons,]] obvious reasons]], but Amy's reaction to a smitten Rory smelled of DoubleStandard. First off, it's ''[[TheVamp a Siren.]]'' Secondly, the man spent almost 1900 years protecting you in when the universe was [[RetGone almost non-existent]]-I think he deserves to be pervy for once. Finally, you're one to talk-I saw you checking out the Doctor (though this is [[MrFanservice Matt Smith]] we're talking about) and [[ScrewYourself your future self]]. Yet you chastise him for this and [[TwinThreesomeFantasy thinking about]] [[ScrewYourself your self-flirting]] (and by the way, both Ponds are literally the same person). [[UnfortunateImplications What am I supposed to take from this?]] [[DoubleStandard Women can be perverts, yet guys will be called out for it?]] Yeah, I'm starting to like you [[MsFanservice for only one reason.]] [[ChivalrousPervert And I don't want that.]]
5th Jan '17 11:26:29 AM SeptimusHeap
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* I'm amazed this one isn't here: when could the Doctor and his ganger have swapped shoes, since neither of them were in a room on their own together ([[FreudWasRight minds out the gutter please]]) and it was clearly the ganger who caused Amy to panic when he talked about the melting down of the Flesh (unless the Doctor is that good an actor he pretended it, but that would be a HUGE coincidence for him to be right).

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* I'm amazed this one isn't here: when could the Doctor and his ganger have swapped shoes, since neither of them were in a room on their own together ([[FreudWasRight minds out the gutter please]]) and it was clearly the ganger who caused Amy to panic when he talked about the melting down of the Flesh (unless the Doctor is that good an actor he pretended it, but that would be a HUGE coincidence for him to be right).
9th Sep '16 8:23:16 PM DoctorNemesis
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** The Doctor's ''already'' pretty depressed at that point (although he's doing a good job of covering it up), and then he learns that one of his oldest and best friends in the entire universe has died, and he didn't and never will get a chance to say goodbye. He's already about as low as he's likely to go at that point, so adding the news that ''another'' of his oldest and best friends has ''also'' died and he ''also'' hasn't and won't get a chance to say goodbye is just kicking him when he's already down.
22nd Jul '16 1:28:19 PM inspibrain101
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*** Presumably, she was met with the Space-Time authorities on the other end, and escorted to her new pad in Stormcage.
22nd Jul '16 1:26:01 PM inspibrain101
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*** Come to think of it, the presence of two Rivers may have been one of the things that contributed to this fixed point.
22nd Jul '16 1:07:25 AM Tuomas
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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.

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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", this episode, then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.
22nd Jul '16 1:06:06 AM Tuomas
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** That's a solid theory, but that doesn't really answer the question: why did the Silence kidnap Amy, replace her with a Ganger, then kidnap the Ganger in the orphanage? "Time travel shenanigans" isn't a good enough answer. The Silence must have access to time travel too, since after they kidnapped the real Amy, they brought her into the future where she was saved in "A Good Man Goes to War", then took River back to the 1960s. And since the Silence in the '60s are already setting up the impossible astronaut plot, they clearly know what will happen to Amy and her daughter in the future, so they must know that the Amy in the orphanage was a Ganger.
21st Jul '16 9:44:40 PM inspibrain101
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*** Time is collapsing around their ears, and you're asking why it is the Time Zones are screwed up? Honestly, the way things are mashed up around here, it's a surprise ''gravity'' is still in effect!
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