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15th Oct '17 7:18:04 AM MarcusSLazarus
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** This is explained in the novelisation; since the warhead's radiation was only dangerous to organic matter, the Doctor used a Kontron Crystal to move himself and Herbert into the future, allowing them to essentially skip over the moment of impact and thus evade the radiation that would have actually killed them.
28th Sep '17 5:07:29 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Perhaps she landed at a point where universal translators existed? No one ever said that the TARDIS Communication Circuits are the ''only'' method of translation in the universe.


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** Most classic Who stories generally try to set up a few cliffhangers to show each of the main characters being in some kind of peril or tense situation if they've been split up. Encountering the dragon was the peril for the girls, but the episode would still have needed to set up some kind of peril for the Doctor, particularly as he's the main character
18th Sep '17 3:06:18 AM AndIntroducingALeg
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** They might be making use of the shaft that was drilled by the Inferno project.
23rd Jul '17 6:30:55 AM ClintEastwood
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* In "The Daleks" (First Doctor serial), the Thals describe the Daleks as being "great thinkers and philosophers". How could that be if, as stated at other times, they were created for the sole purpose of wiping out everything non-Dalek?

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* In "The Daleks" (First Doctor serial), the The Thals describe the Daleks as being "great thinkers and philosophers". How could that be if, as stated at other times, they were created for the sole purpose of wiping out everything non-Dalek?



** I think the duplicate was played by Hartnell's stunt double.

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** I think the duplicate was played by Hartnell's Creator/WilliamHartnell's stunt double.



** This seems to be a common diplomatic protocol (although it's surprising that the Daleks would adhere to it). We have a similar situation in ''The Curse of Peladon''.

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** This seems to be a common diplomatic protocol (although it's surprising that the Daleks would adhere to it). We have a similar situation in ''The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS9E2TheCurseOfPeladon The Curse of Peladon''.Peladon]]".



* In a Third Doctor story ''Colony in Space'', the Master gets angry at an ancient alien for not allowing him to use powerful weapon to destroy the universe. He then points the gun at the alien which is then suddenly magicked out of the air. What. The. ''Fuck?!''

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* In a Third Doctor story ''Colony in Space'', the The Master gets angry at an ancient alien for not allowing him to use powerful weapon to destroy the universe. He then points the gun at the alien which is then suddenly magicked out of the air. What. The. ''Fuck?!''



* In the 3rd Doctor's episode "The Daemons" the Doctor insist that that there is no magic and every thing can be explained by Daemons "secret science." He describes it as invoking and channeling negative human emotions to create psychokinetic energy for various purposes. He also admits that the rituals are not mere window dressing. They have an actual purpose and can control the Daemon to some extent. The local witch confirms that what the Master is doing is exactly black magic. What the Master does also matches some definitions of magic out of the dictionary. So....why isn't what the Master doing considered magic? At best, isn't it both? Is the Doctor just being stubborn since his worldview is "everything can be explained by science" even if he cannot explain it?

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* In the 3rd Doctor's episode "The Daemons" the The Doctor insist that that there is no magic and every thing can be explained by Daemons "secret science." He describes it as invoking and channeling negative human emotions to create psychokinetic energy for various purposes. He also admits that the rituals are not mere window dressing. They have an actual purpose and can control the Daemon to some extent. The local witch confirms that what the Master is doing is exactly black magic. What the Master does also matches some definitions of magic out of the dictionary. So....why isn't what the Master doing considered magic? At best, isn't it both? Is the Doctor just being stubborn since his worldview is "everything can be explained by science" even if he cannot explain it?



* Is the 22nd century Dalek invasion shown in "Day of the Daleks" the same one shown in "Dalek Invasion of Earth"? If so, has history been rewritten or did they just spend four episodes running around for no real reason?
** The "Day of the Daleks" invasion happened in the wake of a nuclear war during the UNIT years, whenever they are. The other invasion occurred 10 years before the Doctor arrived, much later, so they're not the same invasion, conveniently for Susan. If they'd been the same invasion, then when the third Doctor stopped it from happening she'd find her home and probable husband erased from history, quite possibly leaving her in Limbo.

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* Is the 22nd century Dalek invasion shown in "Day of the Daleks" the same one shown in "Dalek "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS2E2TheDalekInvasionOfEarth Dalek Invasion of Earth"? Earth]]"? If so, has history been rewritten or did they just spend four episodes running around for no real reason?
** The "Day "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS9E1DayOfTheDaleks Day of the Daleks" Daleks]]" invasion happened in the wake of a nuclear war during the UNIT years, whenever they are. The other invasion occurred 10 years before the Doctor arrived, much later, so they're not the same invasion, conveniently for Susan. If they'd been the same invasion, then when the third Doctor stopped it from happening she'd find her home and probable husband erased from history, quite possibly leaving her in Limbo.



*** For the information of the less ''Who''-savy ''[=AHistory=]'' in no way counts as ExpandedUniverse canon, let alone official canon. I just wouldn't anyone to confuse this with WordOfGod. (Very well-researched book, however.) Anyway, the invasion in "Day of the Daleks" explicitly depends on a world in which World War III starts in the 20th century. and yet a throwaway line in "Remembrance of the Daleks" says that the ''other'' 22nd century invasion (seen in "The Dalek Invasion of Earth") ''will'' happen, and the ExpandedUniverse confirms it.
** Actually, Day of the Daleks, which ''is'' a lot closer to "official canon" mentions that they travelled back to the 21st century in the aftermath of World War III (which as far as I can tell, only ''starts'' in the 1970s, which was later prevented) following a PREVIOUS thwarting of their Earth invasion. Both stories are set in the same century, but the time the Daleks have occupied Earth is vastly different. Also, the conclusion of the story negated the "Day" invasion from having ''ever'' happened.

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*** For the information of the less ''Who''-savy ''[=AHistory=]'' in no way counts as ExpandedUniverse canon, let alone official canon. I just wouldn't anyone to confuse this with WordOfGod. (Very well-researched book, however.) Anyway, the invasion in "Day of the Daleks" explicitly depends on a world in which World War III starts in the 20th century. and yet a throwaway line in "Remembrance "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS25E1RemembranceOfTheDaleks Remembrance of the Daleks" Daleks]]" says that the ''other'' 22nd century invasion (seen in "The Dalek Invasion of Earth") ''will'' happen, and the ExpandedUniverse confirms it.
** Actually, Day "Day of the Daleks, Daleks", which ''is'' a lot closer to "official canon" mentions that they travelled back to the 21st century in the aftermath of World War III (which as far as I can tell, only ''starts'' in the 1970s, which was later prevented) following a PREVIOUS thwarting of their Earth invasion. Both stories are set in the same century, but the time the Daleks have occupied Earth is vastly different. Also, the conclusion of the story negated the "Day" invasion from having ''ever'' happened.



* Why did the Third Doctor act suprised when he met his past selves. With them being his past selves and all he should have remembered that moment and knew he, meaning his past selves, were coming.

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* Why did the Third Doctor act suprised surprised when he met his past selves. With them being his past selves and all he should have remembered that moment and knew he, meaning his past selves, were coming.



* There's an old Third Doctor episode, "[[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Daleks Planet of the Daleks]]", where the Doctor stops a [[HumanPopsicle frozen Dalek army from reviving themselves]] by triggering an "ice volcano". Apparently, this floods the cavern they were in with "molten ice". I might be missing something, by isn't ''molten ice'' essentially ''water?'' An entire army of unstoppable death creatures were put out of commission by getting a bit wet?

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* There's an old Third Doctor episode, "[[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Daleks Planet of the Daleks]]", where the The Doctor stops a [[HumanPopsicle frozen Dalek army from reviving themselves]] by triggering an "ice volcano". Apparently, this floods the cavern they were in with "molten ice". I might be missing something, by isn't ''molten ice'' essentially ''water?'' An entire army of unstoppable death creatures were put out of commission by getting a bit wet?



** Though Asylum of the Daleks implies that pre-Genesis Dalek stories weren't wiped.

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** Though "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E1AsylumOfTheDaleks Asylum of the Daleks Daleks]]" implies that pre-Genesis Dalek stories weren't wiped.



* In "Genesis of the Daleks", if the Kaleds want to keep racial purity and send all mutations to the wastelands, why haven't they exiled Davros? I mean, he obviously isn't a pure Kaled.

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* In "Genesis of the Daleks", if If the Kaleds want to keep racial purity and send all mutations to the wastelands, why haven't they exiled Davros? I mean, he obviously isn't a pure Kaled.



* Why did Nider leave to do during the meeting? Presumably to somehow ensure the Daleks were arriving on time but it looks like after his encounter with the Doctor he rushes right back to Davros' side and the Daleks still arrive right on time. Part of me can't help but think he left for entirely more innocent reasons and the Doctor just ensured he died with a full bladder!

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* Why did Nider Nyder leave to do during the meeting? Presumably to somehow ensure the Daleks were arriving on time but it looks like after his encounter with the Doctor he rushes right back to Davros' side and the Daleks still arrive right on time. Part of me can't help but think he left for entirely more innocent reasons and the Doctor just ensured he died with a full bladder!



* If ''The Ark In Space'', ''The Sontaran Experiment'', ''Genesis of the Daleks'', ''Revenge of the Cybermen'', and ''Terror of the Zygons'' are continuous, then Sarah and Harry have been active for far too long without rest.

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* If ''The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E2TheArkInSpace The Ark In Space'', ''The in Space]]", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E3TheSontaranExperiment The Sontaran Experiment'', ''Genesis Experiment]]", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E4GenesisOfTheDaleks Genesis of the Daleks'', ''Revenge Daleks]]", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E5RevengeOfTheCybermen Revenge of the Cybermen'', Cybermen]]", and ''Terror "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS13E1TerrorOfTheZygons Terror of the Zygons'' Zygons]]" are continuous, then Sarah and Harry have been active for far too long without rest.



** They also travel by TARDIS between Revenge of the Cybermen and Terror of the Zygons -- for all we know, it took them long enough to get to Scotland for Sarah and Harry to crash and have a nice sleep on the TARDIS on the way.
** Also, Sarah changes out of her waterproof trousers into a skirt for the last scene of the Sontaran Experiment. Presumably the gap there was enough for them to grab forty winks, especially given that the Doctor still needed time to finish working on the transmat.

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** They also travel by TARDIS between Revenge "Revenge of the Cybermen Cybermen" and Terror "Terror of the Zygons Zygons" -- for all we know, it took them long enough to get to Scotland for Sarah and Harry to crash and have a nice sleep on the TARDIS on the way.
** Also, Sarah changes out of her waterproof trousers into a skirt for the last scene of the "The Sontaran Experiment.Experiment". Presumably the gap there was enough for them to grab forty winks, especially given that the Doctor still needed time to finish working on the transmat.



** Presumably the same way they did it in real life. (For those not in the know, that really was Tom Baker in the mummy costume!)

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** Presumably the same way they did it in real life. (For those not in the know, that really was Tom Baker Creator/TomBaker in the mummy costume!)



* In Logopolis, why doesn't the Doctor go back in time to before the entropy field is created to prevent the destruction of a large chunk of the universe?

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* In Logopolis, why Why doesn't the Doctor go back in time to before the entropy field is created to prevent the destruction of a large chunk of the universe?



*** Look, people, if the Doctor could do this, he would just do it every single episode. Which would be a rather boring series. In the "classic" series sometimes they would mention the "Blimovitch Limitation Effect" whenever a character would say something like "why can't you just use time travel to . . .(whatever)". In the Fox TV Movie, at the end [[spoiler: he goes back in time to save the lives of his companions, which is one of the many things that made us die-hard Doctor Who fans very angry at the Fox TV movie.]] In the "new" series we had the episode "Father's Day" which showed what happens if you muck around to much with time. --KEVP

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*** Look, people, if the Doctor could do this, he would just do it every single episode. Which would be a rather boring series. In the "classic" series sometimes they would mention the "Blimovitch Limitation Effect" whenever a character would say something like "why can't you just use time travel to . . .(whatever)". In the Fox [[Recap/DoctorWhoTVMTheTVMovie The TV Movie, Movie]] , at the end [[spoiler: he goes back in time to save the lives of his companions, which is one of the many things that made us die-hard Doctor Who fans very angry at the Fox TV movie.]] In the "new" series we had the episode "Father's Day" "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E8FathersDay Father's Day]]" which showed what happens if you muck around to much with time. --KEVP



* When Tom Baker had his last moment as the Doctor, we see the Keeper rising into the air as he changed into the Peter Davidson incarnation. One of the characters says something along the lines of "The Keeper was the Doctor all along." What did they mean by that? How did all of that work? I came in mid-way through the Baker-era so maybe I missed an earlier episode that would've explained that.

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* When Tom Baker had his last moment as the Doctor, we see the Keeper rising into the air as he changed into the Peter Davidson Creator/PeterDavidson incarnation. One of the characters says something along the lines of "The Keeper was the Doctor all along." What did they mean by that? How did all of that work? I came in mid-way through the Baker-era so maybe I missed an earlier episode that would've explained that.



** No, he needs the Doctor alive in order to have fun humiliating him. E.g. Turning the Doctor into Dobby in Series3 finale.

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** No, he needs the Doctor alive in order to have fun humiliating him. E.g. Turning the Doctor into Dobby in Series3 finale."[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E13LastOfTheTimeLords Last of the Time Lords]]".



** In "The Three Doctors" Omega can send other things to the normal universe by shielding them using his own will. The reason he can't leave the same way is that he wouldn't be able to use his will to shield himself once he left. There is also the problem that he no longer exists as anything except his will which probably contributes to why he has to bond with the Doctor to get a corporeal existence.

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** In "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS10E1TheThreDoctors The Three Doctors" Doctors]]" Omega can send other things to the normal universe by shielding them using his own will. The reason he can't leave the same way is that he wouldn't be able to use his will to shield himself once he left. There is also the problem that he no longer exists as anything except his will which probably contributes to why he has to bond with the Doctor to get a corporeal existence.



** He survived in Genesis of the Daleks because his secondary life support system kicked in. He survived the Dalek virus because he is not a Dalek.

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** He survived in Genesis "Genesis of the Daleks Daleks" because his secondary life support system kicked in. He survived the Dalek virus because he is not a Dalek.



* What about in ''The Mark of the Rani'' When the key to The Doctor's TARDIS fits and works in the lock to The Rani's TARDIS? With no explanation how that possibly works.

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* What How about in ''The Mark of the Rani'' When when the key to The Doctor's TARDIS fits and works in the lock to The Rani's TARDIS? With no explanation how that possibly works.



** Probably the same way the doctor and Romanna did back in "The Armageddon Factor"

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** Probably the same way the doctor and Romanna did back in "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS16E5TheArmageddonFactor The Armageddon Factor"Factor]]".



* In ''TerrorOfTheVervoids'', how can the Time Lords charge the Doctor for a crime he hasn't actually committed yet?

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* In ''TerrorOfTheVervoids'', "Recap/DoctorWhoS23E3TerrorOfTheVervoids Terror of the Vervoids]]", how can the Time Lords charge the Doctor for a crime he hasn't actually committed yet?




Its the Doctor who chooses the Vervoid encounter as his defence, which is basically " I will get better". aside from the fact that thats a bit like a murderer promising a judge " I won't do it again, M'lord" wasn't choosing an adventure where he wipes out a species a bit stupid. Thinking A Deadly Assassin would have been a better choice. Then again executing someone for a genocide they have not yet commited is a bit suspect.

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\n *** Its the Doctor who chooses the Vervoid encounter as his defence, which is basically " I will get better". aside Aside from the fact that thats that's a bit like a murderer promising a judge " I won't do it again, M'lord" wasn't choosing an adventure where he wipes out a species a bit stupid. Thinking A Deadly Assassin would have been a better choice. Then again executing someone for a genocide they have not yet commited committed is a bit suspect.
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In "The Trial of a Time Lord", the Doctor refers to the Valeyard with names such as 'Scrapyard' and 'Boneyard'. While they make sense to us, they wouldn't to the Time Lords: they are speaking Gallifreyan, and therefore wouldn't see the puns in the names.

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In "The Trial of a Time Lord", the * The Doctor refers to the Valeyard with names such as 'Scrapyard' and 'Boneyard'. While they make sense to us, they wouldn't to the Time Lords: they are speaking Gallifreyan, and therefore wouldn't see the puns in the names.
10th May '17 7:58:31 AM cillianflood
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* How did Ace communicate with the natives of Ice World? She was hurled untold years through time and space and there was no Tardis Communication Circuits around to help her. Must have been an interesting first few months.
* The infamous episode 1 cliffhanger...why does it exist when there's a perfectly good cliff hanger they could have ended on. While the Doctor is pointlessly dangling for his life, the girls have just encountered the bloody dragon everyone had been talking about all episode!
* Why did Mel leave? Seems there was some basic reason for it but it's as nebulous as the circumstances of her arrival.
11th Apr '17 10:45:37 AM cillianflood
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** Do we ever actually see it leave? Because this troper finds the idea of it still in there all these years later lost in the endless corridors of the Tardis rather amusing.
11th Apr '17 10:40:05 AM cillianflood
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** Even taking the plot twist at face value it doesn't make all that sense given if the Doctor is half time lord and its primed to him then it should work for both Time Lords and Humans. The most likely explanation is that the Doctor just configured it to humans because he both trusts them and thinks them too stupid to obliterate reality with the eye (and if he ever needs to use it himself humans are the one race he probably has on hand). Where's time lord are a notoriously corrupt and dangerous species who definitely would try to use the eye hence protecting it from them is wise. Hell that's probably the entire reason its in his Tardis and not under the citadel to begin with.
11th Apr '17 10:32:31 AM cillianflood
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** Where else are they going to store it? On their own ship? Where if it breaks it'll kill them all.
11th Apr '17 10:24:23 AM cillianflood
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\n*** Saving a quarter of reality itself sounds like a decent enough reason if any to bastardize a Tardis. Though maybe the size of the paradox has an effect and it's simply too big a situations for one machine to handle. Or alternatively, if you're an optimist, the time lords did exactly that and everyone was saved !Hooray! Not like anyone ever mentions a massive amount of reality suddenly not existing in any subsequent episodes (except for Nyssa occasionally mentioning Trakken in which case she simply might not have been informed. She oddly doesn't make much of a big deal about being the last of her world).
23rd Jul '16 8:18:07 AM DoctorNemesis
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** They live in the remains of their former city, so it's probably just a remnant.
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