History Headscratchers / DoctorWho

18th Jul '16 5:36:35 AM DoctorNemesis
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** I'd suggest that, so far as we know, it's possibly more a form of domestication rather than slavery. Similarly to the relationship humans have with dogs, horses and other working animals; those are, after all, also species in their own right, but they've been bred and developed over time to have a symbiotic and more-or-less mutually satisfying relationship with humans. If nothing else, since the TARDIS seems (again, so far as we can tell) perfectly happy to bumble around with the Doctor, and arguably has more control over the situation than he does (it's pretty heavily implied that the TARDIS more frequently decides where the Doctor goes rather than the other way around), 'slavery' seems a questionable way to describe the situation.



** Same way someone can use a horse to pull a cart or ride it. A horse can go wherever it wants if it really wants to, but if it and the human directing it have both been well-trained, the horse is sufficiently tamed and under control, and a bond of trust has been established between the two, then the human can direct the horse to go where they want it to go. The TARDIS in this case is the horse, the Time Lord(s) controlling it are the human, and presumably the TARDIS console acts as the 'reins' by giving the Time Lord the medium to direct the TARDIS.

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* In "The Stolen Earth" and "Journey's End", Davros tries to destroy reality and fails. BUT episodes like "Doomsday" make it clear that every possible outcome generates another universe where the outcome was different. So if Davros failed in the "main" universe, doesn't that mean there's now another universe where he succeeded? Doesn't the idea that every outcome generates a new universe guarantee that someone will try to destroy all reality and succeed? Doesn't that mean reality is doomed and not even the Doctor can do something about it?



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* In "The Stolen Earth" and "Journey's End", Davros tries to destroy reality and fails. BUT episodes like "Doomsday" make it clear that every possible outcome generates another universe where the outcome was different. So if Davros failed in the "main" universe, doesn't that mean there's now another universe where he succeeded? Doesn't the idea that every outcome generates a new universe guarantee that someone will try to destroy all reality and succeed? Doesn't that mean reality is doomed and not even the Doctor can do something about it?
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** It's perhaps fair to say that a lot of these fans -- and, to a degree, this question itself -- might be suffering from RonTheDeathEater syndrome where the Doctor is concerned. It would be a stretch to describe the Doctor as perfect, and his actions might sometimes have potentially harmful consequences. But that's true of everyone without exception (it's just on a slightly larger scale for the Doctor), and it's overly-reductive to focus on the Doctor's flaws, mistakes and problems as if that's all there is to him. The fact that he's not a paragon of untouchable and unquestioned virtue who has never set a foot wrong doesn't mean the universe would be better off without him and that he should kill himself as a baby (BTW ''seriously''?); it just means that knowing what the right thing to do in a given situation isn't always easy to know, even for the Doctor. Whatever else you say about him, the Doctor is someone who tries his best to do the right thing, who stands up for those who can't stand up for themselves, who tries to fight oppression and injustice wherever he finds it, and tries to make people's lives better. The universe arguably needs more of that type of person, not less.
17th Jul '16 6:30:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* Davros has been established as a genius at genetic engineering(and an OmnicidalManiac), who managed to create one of the most feared races in the universe. In that case, when he was designing the Daleks, why did he not encode their DNA so that "[[AbsoluteXenophobe It is your destiny and purpose to destroy all non-Daleks.]] [[GenreSavvy Your creator, Davros, is the exception.]] [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy He is your commander and leader.]]" Yeah, [[ItsAllAboutMe he's arrogant,]] but not stupid. What gives?

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* Davros has been established as a genius at genetic engineering(and an OmnicidalManiac), who managed to create one of the most feared races in the universe. In that case, when he was designing the Daleks, why did he not encode their DNA so that "[[AbsoluteXenophobe It is your destiny and purpose to destroy all non-Daleks.]] [[GenreSavvy Your creator, Davros, is the exception.]] [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy exception. He is your commander and leader.]]" " Yeah, [[ItsAllAboutMe he's arrogant,]] but not stupid. What gives?
27th Jun '16 7:19:52 PM Adept
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** And before that, TheBachelor?
** And even BEFORE that, TheGraduate...

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** And before that, TheBachelor?
Series/TheBachelor?
** And even BEFORE that, TheGraduate...Series/TheGraduate...
6th Jun '16 10:59:07 AM Doug86
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** Not all explosions are identical. We don't know why the TARDIS explosion that the Silence triggered caused all of reality to collapse. It may have had something to do with how it was destroyed, since there was never any prior indication that destroying a TARDIS would yield that result (see "Journey's End" when the Daleks drop the TARDIS into the Crucible's core to let it melt; nobody is panicking about reality being endangered). When the Silence took over the TARDIS and forced it to explode, the explosion looked as if it was coming from the Heart/engines. But in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS", the engines exploded once again but the TARDIS managed to freeze that explosion in time. So it's seems quite probable that the method used to cause the explosion is a big factor in how it affects everything else, which could explain why the Silence got more than they bargained for -- they may not have known that exploding the Heart would cause an explosion of that magnitude. Plus, the Doctor's TARDIS is an outdated model. It's possible that newer [=TARDISes=], like the ones that the Time Lords would probably have been using during the Time War, have better safety protocols that can prevent such catastophes from occurring. At any rate, a war between the Daleks and the Time Lords needn't necessarily see the universe un-happened just because [=TARDISes=] were destroyed in the process, and I always got the impression that reality was falling apart during the Time War because of the EldritchAbominations that were involved in it, as well as the constant, reckless, paradoxical revisions of history that were being made by the combatants.

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** Not all explosions are identical. We don't know why the TARDIS explosion that the Silence triggered caused all of reality to collapse. It may have had something to do with how it was destroyed, since there was never any prior indication that destroying a TARDIS would yield that result (see "Journey's End" when the Daleks drop the TARDIS into the Crucible's core to let it melt; nobody is panicking about reality being endangered). When the Silence took over the TARDIS and forced it to explode, the explosion looked as if it was coming from the Heart/engines. But in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS", the engines exploded once again but the TARDIS managed to freeze that explosion in time. So it's seems quite probable that the method used to cause the explosion is a big factor in how it affects everything else, which could explain why the Silence got more than they bargained for -- they may not have known that exploding the Heart would cause an explosion of that magnitude. Plus, the Doctor's TARDIS is an outdated model. It's possible that newer [=TARDISes=], like the ones that the Time Lords would probably have been using during the Time War, have better safety protocols that can prevent such catastophes from occurring. At any rate, a war between the Daleks and the Time Lords needn't necessarily see the universe un-happened just because [=TARDISes=] were destroyed in the process, and I always got the impression that reality was falling apart during the Time War because of the EldritchAbominations {{Eldritch Abomination}}s that were involved in it, as well as the constant, reckless, paradoxical revisions of history that were being made by the combatants.
5th Jun '16 2:35:57 PM LondonKdS
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* I always assumed that the Time Lords got time stuff from the TARDISes.

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* I always assumed that the Time Lords got time stuff from the TARDISes.[=TARDISes=].
30th May '16 3:32:59 AM lampshadeortriangle
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* Are the TARDISes a slave race? They don't seem to have any rights, and we're told they're a race in their own right despite being in the form of ships and literally unable to move on their own, which seems a little like Time Lord engineering to control them to me. What does a "wild" TARDIS look like? Do they always have to be "owned" by a Time Lord? Basically, are they slaves?

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* Are the TARDISes TARDIS es a slave race? They don't seem to have any rights, and we're told they're a race in their own right despite being in the form of ships and literally unable to move on their own, which seems a little like Time Lord engineering to control them to me. What does a "wild" TARDIS look like? Do they always have to be "owned" by a Time Lord? Basically, are they slaves?
30th May '16 3:32:07 AM lampshadeortriangle
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* Are the TARDISes a slave race? They don't seem to have any rights, and we're told they're a race in their own right despite being in the form of ships and literally unable to move on their own, which seems a little like Time Lord engineering to control them to me. What does a "wild" TARDIS look like? Do they always have to be "owned" by a Time Lord? Basically, are they slaves?
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* Does no one else question why the ''Daleks'' have the exact same "round things" as the TARDIS?
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29th May '16 5:36:45 PM lampshadeortriangle
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*** [[MindRape The Master would know.]]
29th May '16 5:05:51 PM lampshadeortriangle
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*** Makes you wonder what would happen if One met Twelve.
29th May '16 3:31:00 PM lampshadeortriangle
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* "It?"

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