History Headscratchers / DoctorWho

11th Feb '17 12:38:47 PM AthenaBlue
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* [[Headscratchers/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor The Day of the Doctor]]
* [[Headscratchers/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor The Time of the Doctor]]

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* [[Headscratchers/DoctorWho50thASTheDayOfTheDoctor The "The Day of the Doctor]]
Doctor"]]
* [[Headscratchers/DoctorWho2013CSTheTimeOfTheDoctor The "The Time of the Doctor]]Doctor"]]



* [[Headscratchers/DoctorWho2014CSLastChristmas Last Christmas]]

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* [[Headscratchers/DoctorWho2014CSLastChristmas Last Christmas]]"Last Christmas"]]


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28th Jan '17 5:23:59 PM Wyldchyld
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* Why does the Doctor have a belly button? For humans, it's basically a scar left over from cutting the umbilical cord. [[FetishFuel Yet we've seen that his later incarnations still having one]] [[TheNthDoctor when it should have been healed from regenerating]]. If we assume it's not a scar, what do Time Lords use it for?

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* Why does the Doctor have a belly button? For humans, it's basically a scar left over from cutting the umbilical cord. [[FetishFuel Yet we've seen that his later incarnations still having one]] [[TheNthDoctor one when it should have been healed from regenerating]].regenerating. If we assume it's not a scar, what do Time Lords use it for?



** That makes the Master's plans for a new Time Lord Empire either [[FridgeHorror very]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil disturbing]] or [[EvilIsSexy really]] [[FetishFuel hot.]]

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** That makes the Master's plans for a new Time Lord Empire either [[FridgeHorror very]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil disturbing]] or [[EvilIsSexy really]] [[FetishFuel hot.]]really hot]].
21st Jan '17 8:46:39 PM SickBoy
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*** And likely would never have happened. The reason the Doctor comes to trust River is because she proves that in the future he'll trust her more than anyone, and so he should come to trust her even though he doesn't know her. It's basically a case of him taking his own word that she's not only trustworthy, but one of the most trustworthy people he's ever met. The other reason they become close is that she ''knows'' how close they'll be, and so keeps calling on him and showing up in his life, bringing him closer to her (even as she gets further from him). If they had met sequentially, none of that would be the case, he probably wouldn't feel any stronger about her than any of his other friends, and they likely wouldn't have a romantic relationship at all.
21st Jan '17 7:55:53 AM SickBoy
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** He's had multiple versions of the same outfit before (4 had a red coat and a grey coat, 10 had a brown suit and a blue suit, etc.), so the most likely answer is both. Even now, 12 has started wearing a red jacket, so maybe he has 3 of them.
18th Jan '17 9:04:15 AM LondonKdS
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* Well, if you want the short version, they were indeed Gallifreyans, and they were ruled by this entity - part HiveQueen, part high priestess to the Menti Celesti (i.e. Time and Death and Pain,) part queen - called the Pythia. This was before history and all the accompanying messes (including time travel) was invented, so there's really no way to tell how long this period went on for, but eventually Rassilon showed up with the rest of the founders (Omega, Pandak, Apeiron, Lazuline, Eutenoyar and the Other, according to the Cartmel Masterplan) and overthrew the Pythia. The Founders then, in short succession, created the Eye of Harmony, built the Time Lords (an engineered species,) invented time as a structured and reason-powered thing, invented the vortex / the web of time / history to keep it all orderly, invented TARDISes as a way of travelling across this new dimension, basically set up Gallifrey as we know it today (transduction barrier and all,) and then all died / disappeared in quick sucession. It's unclear what happened to the 'original' Pythian Gallifreyans, but none of them survived, which makes it pretty likely that Rassilon murdered them all to ensure the success of his new master race (and then probably invented the Pythia's Curse to cover up for himself but that's headcanon really.)

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* Well, if you want the short version, they were indeed Gallifreyans, and they were ruled by this entity - part HiveQueen, part high priestess to the Menti Celesti (i.e. Time and Death and Pain,) part queen - called the Pythia. This was before history and all the accompanying messes (including time travel) was invented, so there's really no way to tell how long this period went on for, but eventually Rassilon showed up with the rest of the founders (Omega, Pandak, Apeiron, Lazuline, Eutenoyar and the Other, according to the Cartmel Masterplan) and overthrew the Pythia. The Founders then, in short succession, created the Eye of Harmony, built the Time Lords (an engineered species,) invented time as a structured and reason-powered thing, invented the vortex / the web of time / history to keep it all orderly, invented TARDISes [=TARDISes=] as a way of travelling across this new dimension, basically set up Gallifrey as we know it today (transduction barrier and all,) and then all died / disappeared in quick sucession. It's unclear what happened to the 'original' Pythian Gallifreyans, but none of them survived, which makes it pretty likely that Rassilon murdered them all to ensure the success of his new master race (and then probably invented the Pythia's Curse to cover up for himself but that's headcanon really.)



** Well, actually, probably, yes. There are no real wild TARDISes, as they were very definitely created by Rassilon and co. way back in Founder's times, but it seems likely that given that they are definitely sentient (if such an alien kind of sentience that no time-linear being can really communicate them - even the Time Lords have difficulty.) Interesting, in certain bits of the EU, the Eighth Doctor accidentally turns one of their companions into a linear TARDIS - and she starts what could probably be called a timeship revolt (at least, if you believe Faction Paradox.) I seem to remember that according to the Book of the War she actually ends up demanding a Loom and a 'breeding pair' of pilots, a.k.a. presumably Time Tots / chronarchs off the War King - which is to say, turn the slave race thing right back on them - and then she turned Lolita (the Master's TARDIS) linear too and then Lolita practically took over Gallifrey, so there you go, I suppose.

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** Well, actually, probably, yes. There are no real wild TARDISes, [=TARDISes=], as they were very definitely created by Rassilon and co. way back in Founder's times, but it seems likely that given that they are definitely sentient (if such an alien kind of sentience that no time-linear being can really communicate them - even the Time Lords have difficulty.) Interesting, in certain bits of the EU, the Eighth Doctor accidentally turns one of their companions into a linear TARDIS - and she starts what could probably be called a timeship revolt (at least, if you believe Faction Paradox.) I seem to remember that according to the Book of the War she actually ends up demanding a Loom and a 'breeding pair' of pilots, a.k.a. presumably Time Tots / chronarchs off the War King - which is to say, turn the slave race thing right back on them - and then she turned Lolita (the Master's TARDIS) linear too and then Lolita practically took over Gallifrey, so there you go, I suppose.
31st Dec '16 10:59:10 AM Morgenthaler
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** Alternatively, in keeping with what we know about River Song, plus the ForgottenPhlebotinum from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E6TheDoctorsDaughter "The Doctor's Daughter"]], one realizes that the Doctor himself could have repopulated the Time Lord race quite easily. If he did it inside the TARDIS, presumably the clones would be true Time Lords in all respects. What's more, the cloning machine would pre-program them to be much more {{Badass}} than the old Time Lords. The only thing preventing such an effort is the Doctor's [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny chronic inability to focus on long-term projects]]. Now, if the Master ever got wind of it...

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** Alternatively, in keeping with what we know about River Song, plus the ForgottenPhlebotinum from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E6TheDoctorsDaughter "The Doctor's Daughter"]], one realizes that the Doctor himself could have repopulated the Time Lord race quite easily. If he did it inside the TARDIS, presumably the clones would be true Time Lords in all respects. What's more, the cloning machine would pre-program them to be much more {{Badass}} badass than the old Time Lords. The only thing preventing such an effort is the Doctor's [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny chronic inability to focus on long-term projects]]. Now, if the Master ever got wind of it...
30th Dec '16 11:19:15 PM Sconstio
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*This has been bothering me for a while, but is the 12th Doctor's coat (in season 8 and most of season 9) navy blue or black? The initial publicity photo shows it as navy blue, and most of the merchandising show it as navy blue, however onscreen it appears black. Does the prop department have more than one coat that they use? If so, what color is it in canon?
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28th Dec '16 9:36:27 AM inspibrain101
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* [[CaneFu It's the cane. Don't mess with the cane.]]
28th Dec '16 9:29:04 AM inspibrain101
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*** The poster is referring to the original taping of "An Unearthly Child," the original 1963 pilot. In the original version, Susan tells Ian and Barbara that she was born in the 51st century. Sydney Newman didn't like the episode, and made them rewrite it. It was basically the same episode, with a handful of minor changes, including the 51st century line being changed to, "I was born in another time, another world." I guess they thought it was more mysterious and the 51st century was too specific.
27th Dec '16 11:37:15 PM FordPrefect
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** Because the show's made in Britain, by British people, for a primarily British audience. Same reason that American sci-fi shows tend to emphasise American accents and American influence and American culture; they're reflecting the world of their intended audience and the frames of reference that they possess. It's one of those "just suck it up and move on" things that you have to just run with if you want to watch the show. Particularly since, let's be honest, given the sheer amount of American sci-fi shows and movies it's not as if there's a shortage of media which positions America and Americans up front and centre in futuristic settings.

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** Because the show's made in Britain, by British people, for a primarily British audience. Same reason that American sci-fi shows tend to emphasise American accents and American influence and American culture; they're reflecting the world of their intended audience and the frames of reference that they possess. It's one of those "just suck it up and move on" things that you have to just run with if you want to watch the show. Particularly since, let's be honest, given the sheer amount of American sci-fi shows and movies movies, it's not as if there's a shortage of media which positions America and Americans up front and centre in futuristic settings.



*** But there are also many episodes that only take place only a few decades in the future, such as ''The Waters of Mars'' or ''Kill the Moon'', where the English spoken wouldn't have changed so much the viewers couldn't understand it, so the TranslationConvention shouldn't be in effect any more than it is in the episodes set in the near past, and yet everyone in the near future is still speaking with a British accent. Also, if it's the Translation Convention that gives everyone a British accent for British viewers' benefit, why do American accents still occasional pop up, such as with Henry van Statten in ''Dalek''?

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*** But there are also many episodes that only take place only a few decades in the future, such as ''The Waters of Mars'' or ''Kill the Moon'', where the English spoken wouldn't have changed so much the viewers couldn't understand it, so the TranslationConvention shouldn't be in effect any more than it is in the episodes set in the near past, and yet everyone in the near future is still speaking with a British accent. Also, if it's the Translation Convention that gives everyone a British accent for British viewers' benefit, why do American accents still occasional occasionally pop up, such as with Henry van Statten in ''Dalek''?



*** There is clearly only one answer. At some point America screws up so badly it decides that it would be best if it just re-places itself back under British care and governance and its people, learn how to speak with proper accents.
** Stories set in the near future with British actors are probably meant to be British characters. There's nothing surprising or strange about that. Britain is a major world power, this is even more true in the Doctor Who universe where they had a space program and hosted world peace negotiations in the early 80s (or perhaps the 70s, look up the UNIT dating controversy if you don't know about it). So to put it simply, when Earth is established as a major galactic force in the future your dealing with future humans speaking a future language and are probably members of future countries within a united Earth (one exception to this is probably The Beast Below). When dealing with the near future you're probably dealing with British characters on some remote base somewhere speaking pretty normal English, unless otherwise specified (see Dalek). Same when dealing with stories set in the present or near present day (technically every story in the most recent seasons have been in the near future given the liberal time skips in the first half of Matt Smith's last season). Any story set in the past more than two centuries and you're probably dealing with people not speaking modern English and frequently not even being from England. There's nothing strange or unexpected about this. If a character is likely to be British then they probably are. If a character is unlikely to be British then they probably aren't regardless how they speak.

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*** There is clearly only one answer. At some point America screws up so badly it decides that it would be best if it just re-places itself back under British care and governance governance, and its people, people learn how to speak with proper accents.
** Stories set in the near future with British actors are probably meant to be British characters. There's nothing surprising or strange about that. Britain is a major world power, this is even more true in the Doctor Who universe where they had a space program and hosted world peace negotiations in the early 80s (or perhaps the 70s, look up the UNIT dating controversy if you don't know about it). So to put it simply, when Earth is established as a major galactic force in the future your future, you're dealing with future humans speaking a future language and are probably members of future countries within a united Earth (one exception to this is probably The Beast Below). When dealing with the near future future, you're probably dealing with British characters on some remote base somewhere speaking pretty normal English, unless otherwise specified (see Dalek). Same when dealing with stories set in the present or near present day (technically every story in the most recent seasons have been in the near future given the liberal time skips in the first half of Matt Smith's last season). Any story set in the past more than two centuries and you're probably dealing with people not speaking modern English and frequently not even being from England. There's nothing strange or unexpected about this. If a character is likely to be British then they probably are. If a character is unlikely to be British then they probably aren't regardless how they speak.



* It's establish as early as the third Doctor's tenure (perhaps earlier) that the Doctor is a master hypnotist, just like the Master. Yet it's a power he very rarely uses. Why? Sure suppressing someone's free will for a little while is a bit rude but it's pretty convenient non violent way of not getting yourself murdered. Sure it might not work on everyone as "strong willed individuals" exist, but its still worth a try when your in a tight spot. And that type of hypnotism is within his abilities as I can think of exactly one tight spot where the Doctor did in fact try to hypnotize someone, in the giant swamp squid episode during the key of time season (4th Doctor). Of course from a narrative perspective it's either too easy a fix for most situations and having it try and fail constantly would not be entertaining, but I can't think of any in universe explanation as to why he never gives it a try beyond that one time.

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* It's establish established as early as the third Doctor's tenure (perhaps earlier) that the Doctor is a master hypnotist, just like the Master. Yet it's a power he very rarely uses. Why? Sure suppressing someone's free will for a little while is a bit rude but it's pretty convenient non violent way of not getting yourself murdered. Sure it might not work on everyone as "strong willed individuals" exist, but its still worth a try when your in a tight spot. And that type of hypnotism is within his abilities as I can think of exactly one tight spot where the Doctor did in fact try to hypnotize someone, in the giant swamp squid episode during the key of time season (4th Doctor). Of course from a narrative perspective it's either too easy a fix for most situations and having it try and fail constantly would not be entertaining, but I can't think of any in universe explanation as to why he never gives it a try beyond that one time.
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