History Headscratchers / DoctorWho

22nd Apr '17 2:16:37 PM LordofUzkulak
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** How do we know that things like the Holocaust aren't actually a result of the Doctor's interference? Maybe he stepped in to stop worse happening and the Holocaust was an improvement, or he interfered and made things worse, tried to correct it, made it even worse and so on until he gave up not wanting to make it even worse again. There's also the problem that things like the Holocaust and other such historic atrocities aren't things that can be fixed with a quick fix; there's a Terry Pratchet quote about this - 'Shoot the dictator and prevent the war? But the dictator is merely the tip of the whole festering boil of social pus from which dictators emerge; shoot him and there'll be another one along in a minute. Shoot him too? Why not shoot everyone and invade Poland?'. The show has even shown multiple times how the Doctor sometimes only addresses the immediate issue and not the long term issues (e.g. the Ninth Doctor removing an agent of the Daleks in 'The Long Game' didn't fix things and resulted in the mess Earth was in in 'Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways', and the Fourth Doctor's interference in helping a survey ship in an unspecified adventure resulted in the mess he found himself in in 'The Face of Evil' along with screwing up the society of the crew of said ship), so it's plausible that things like the Holocaust are similar side effects of his interference.
22nd Apr '17 7:11:52 AM cillianflood
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** Another very salient point here is that Time Lord society wasn't just complacent during the classic series, it was falling apart. The last time we see the Time Lords before the Time War is in the ultimate foe where the High Counsel had just been deposed, insurrection (ie civil war) is running wild on Gallifrey and they've suddenly lost access to the matrix. The Daleks managed to get the upper hand because the Time Lords were to busy fighting among themselves. It was basically Japan vs China circa World War II.

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** Another very salient point here is that Time Lord society wasn't just complacent during the classic series, it was falling apart. The last time we see the Time Lords before the Time War is in the ultimate foe The Ultimate Foe where the High Counsel had just been deposed, insurrection (ie civil war) is running wild on Gallifrey and they've suddenly lost access to the matrix. The Daleks managed to get the upper hand because the Time Lords were to too busy fighting among themselves. It was basically Japan vs China circa World War II.
22nd Apr '17 7:10:28 AM cillianflood
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** Another very salient point here is that Time Lord society wasn't just complacent during the classic series, it was falling apart. The last time we see the Time Lords before the Time War is in the ultimate foe where the High Counsel had just been deposed, insurrection (ie civil war) is running wild on Gallifrey and they've suddenly lost access to the matrix. The Daleks managed to get the upper hand because the Time Lords were to busy fighting among themselves. It was basically Japan vs China circa World War II.
21st Apr '17 2:04:03 PM Sharlee
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*** "Heaven Sent" obliquely implies that Seven wasn't actually dead when he was put into the morgue drawer, he just ''looked'' dead enough to fool human doctors. Apparently it's not unprecedented for Time Lords who get sick or hurt away from Gallifrey to get buried prematurely.
16th Apr '17 11:58:56 AM LordofUzkulak
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*** A bump on the head.



** River was using the prayer leaf to prove who she was. She could have just said outright she was Melody, but she needed to prove it somehow, so pointed to the leaf where 'Melody Pond' had been mangled due to translation and retranslation into 'Song River' and Amy looked at the Pond/River side first resulting in it getting switched around to 'River Song'. The leaf itself doesn't really have anything to do with why she started using the River version of the name (as a previous troper stated, that's down to the Doctor &Co. knowing the name first and introducing it to Mels, who adopts it and using it from then on so that when she meets earlier versions of the Doctor that's how she introduces herself to him, which closes the loop).




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** Considering how long Jack's lived for and how much he's been through, maybe he's long since passed insanity and looped back to sanity. And after all he's been through maybe after so much he's just become numb/desensitised to the trauma? As for the being buried for nearly two millennia, is it confirmed that he was actually conscious for all that time? Maybe he died, revived but died again before he had time to become conscious again?
13th Apr '17 8:12:53 AM MasterFuzzy
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** From a Doylist point of view, it's because an episode set on Earth with human characters will be more interesting to the audience than one set on Planet Zog with spiny purple-skinned space gorillas (or whatever). Most of the audience is human, after all.



** The latter's probably because of a PsychicBlockDefense, rather than him not having one.



** And I always thought that if the show was just called "The Doctor", It would sound more like a hospital drama rather than a science fiction program. And since The Doctor Isn't an actual doctor, it would make no sense.

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** And I always thought that if the show was just called "The Doctor", It would sound more like a hospital drama rather than a science fiction program. And since The Doctor Isn't isn't an actual doctor, it would make no sense.



** As of "The Magician's Apprentice", it seems plausible that Davros [[spoiler: is subconsciously ''afraid'' of mechanical hands, given that a bunch of them almost killed him when he was a little boy]]. So even if he intellectually sees there advantages, he just couldn't stand putting hands on his "perfect creations".

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** As of "The Magician's Apprentice", it seems plausible that Davros [[spoiler: is subconsciously ''afraid'' of mechanical hands, given that a bunch of them almost killed him when he was a little boy]]. So even if he intellectually sees there their advantages, he just couldn't stand putting hands on his "perfect creations".


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** Seems like when you meet different incarnations of yourself, your past self only remembers vague details until you become the current version, who will remember stuff. Which is why 11 recognized the [[BuffySpeak time fissure thingy]] in ''Day of the Doctor,'' and 10 remembered seeing himself manipulate the controls in ''Time Crash.''


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** Well, problem is that Lungbarrow's been retconned, what with the Master mentioning his "father" and a few other things. Let's just go with the above that it's kept for the same reason as body hair, nipples, etc.
13th Apr '17 7:46:45 AM cillianflood
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** The sixth Doctor also tried to use hypnotism to subdue an enemy in Reclation of the Daleks.

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** The sixth Doctor also tried (and failed) to use hypnotism to subdue an enemy in Reclation Revelation of the Daleks.
13th Apr '17 7:34:39 AM cillianflood
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** The sixth Doctor also tried to use hypnotism to subdue an enemy in Reclation of the Daleks.
11th Apr '17 1:34:09 PM nowaymanguy
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** Didn't the Doctor once hypnotize the entire human race into murdering an entire race? I really don't think he's above hypnotism.
11th Apr '17 10:05:04 AM cillianflood
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** If it is because it's heavily against a moral code of his, then why did he do it on that once instance? And considering the Doctor has shown himself to be willing (albeit reluctant) to outright kill in order to save lives on many occasions, there's no real indication that suppressing someone's free will temporarily would be off limits. And I stress the word temporarily. He doesn't need to go around making slaves of every enemy he meets but telling them to put down their gun and go rethink their lives is quite preferable to letting innocent people get shot.
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