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18th Mar '16 1:58:10 PM Hossmeister
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17th Mar '16 3:37:57 PM Hossmeister
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*** Additionally, I've thought of another "happy ending avoider", instead of LaserGuidedAmnesia. Basically, Doctor Horrible grabs any and all technology in the shelter while repairing the freeze ray, and pretty much destroys all of it. When rescued, Penny discovers that Horrible broke ''[[SeriousBusiness her iPod]]'', and storms out of the lab angrily. Seems insignificant, but ''was'' an [[TheBigBangTheory 80 gig iPod...]] Alternately, Horrible destroys the entire homeless shelter in his efforts to save Penny, and she gets angry because he apparently hates the homeless.

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*** Additionally, I've thought of another "happy ending avoider", instead of LaserGuidedAmnesia. Basically, Doctor Horrible grabs any and all technology in the shelter while repairing the freeze ray, and pretty much destroys all of it. When rescued, Penny discovers that Horrible broke ''[[SeriousBusiness her iPod]]'', and storms out of the lab angrily. Seems insignificant, but ''was'' an [[TheBigBangTheory [Series/TheBigBangTheory 80 gig iPod...]] Alternately, Horrible destroys the entire homeless shelter in his efforts to save Penny, and she gets angry because he apparently hates the homeless.
15th Mar '16 3:11:49 AM GrammarNavi
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*** You mean like ''{{Fargo}}''?

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*** You mean like ''{{Fargo}}''?''Film/{{Fargo}}''?
9th Mar '16 9:19:09 AM Hossmeister
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** Good question, considering he used to be a [[DoogieHowserMD doctor,]] for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TusJ8HSLaUs pretend]]

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** Good question, considering he used to be a [[DoogieHowserMD [[Series/DoogieHowserMD doctor,]] for [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TusJ8HSLaUs pretend]]
24th Jan '16 8:53:05 PM TobuIshi
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--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers,]] [[ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder he's a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, he is a doctor, but he's]] [[NotThatKindOfDoctor not that kind of doctor. He has a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate You can't]] ''[[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate help]]'' [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate people with a doctorate]], ''[[DespairSpeech you just SIT there and you're USELESS!"]]''

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--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers,]] [[ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder he's a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, he is a doctor, but he's]] [[NotThatKindOfDoctor not that kind of doctor. ]] [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate He has a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate [[TragicVillain You can't]] ''[[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate ''[[TragicVillain help]]'' [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate [[TragicVillain people with a doctorate]], ''[[DespairSpeech you just SIT there and you're USELESS!"]]''
24th Jan '16 8:52:30 PM TobuIshi
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--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers, he's a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, he is a doctor, but he's not that kind of doctor. He has a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"

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--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers, Tropers,]] [[ImADoctorNotAPlaceholder he's a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, he is a doctor, but he's he's]] [[NotThatKindOfDoctor not that kind of doctor. He has a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate You can't ''help'' can't]] ''[[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate help]]'' [[MorallyAmbiguousDoctorate people with a doctorate, doctorate]], ''[[DespairSpeech you just ''sit'' SIT there and you're ''useless''!"USELESS!"]]''
24th Jan '16 8:44:20 PM TobuIshi
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** Allow me to simplify the issue here into one semi-repurposed quote:
--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers, I'm a mad scientist, not a doctor!]][[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am a doctor, but I'm not that kind of doctor. I have a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"

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** Allow me to Let's just simplify the issue here into one semi-repurposed (blended and repurposed) quote:
--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers, I'm he's a mad scientist, not a doctor!]][[Disney/TreasurePlanet doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am he is a doctor, but I'm he's not that kind of doctor. I have He has a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"
24th Jan '16 8:42:41 PM TobuIshi
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--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Jim, I'm a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am a doctor, but I'm not that kind of doctor. I have a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"
** Wall socket: Yes, because as we all know, when your weapon ''is powered by the rare, difficult to aqcuire substance known as Wonderflonium'', [[SarcasmMode you can power it by simply plugging it into a wall socket.]]
** Prove that wonderflonium is used to power the freeze ray. Sure, it's "needed" for the freeze ray - that doesn't instantly make it a battery.
** Finally, what is this nonsense about "a good villain"? Have you been paying attention to the show at all? '''This is Doctor flipping Horrible'''. He is '''NOT''' a "good villain." He's an ''incompetent'' one.
** Correct. However, it would be [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] if, upon seeing Penny mortally wounded, Dr. Horrible discovered latent competancy and went into an epic rescue operation, singing "Brand New Day (Reprise)" with determination, easily re-enabling the freeze ray with a crazy assortment of batteries from cell phones, flashlights, and watches, pausing Penny, running down an underground passage back to the lab (with Penny on the paramedic bed thingy, freeze ray mounted on the side), working on his whiteboard to develop a healing device, and generally actually being really cool.
*** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7392170/1/Brand_New_Day_Reprise Fandom has granted your wish.]]
** Too bad this is a Creator/JossWhedon production. That ending would be too happy for him. :P
** Okay, how about this: Dr. Horrible goes all BadAss, uses the freeze ray to pause Penny, escorts her back to the lab, and makes the healing thing. However, when unpaused, it's discovered that Penny's now got LaserGuidedAmnesia, and can't remember anything since Act I started - she's never met either Captain Hammer or Dr. Horrible. (she may even greet Billy in the lab with the same lines as in Act I: Hey, I know you, from the laundromat, etc. Billy doesn't manage to estabish a real, audible connection for some reason, however) Dr. Horrible still gets into the Evil League of Evil, because he defeated Captain Hammer (okay, not a murder, but defeating the ''only superhero'' around should be worth at least as much credit as killing some random person). For additional awesome, Dr. Horrible gets into the [=ELE=] ''while'' building the healing device, and enlists the [=ELE=] resources to help build the device. ("I need wonderflonium. ''Lots'' of wonderflonium.")
** I've come up with a justification of this ending: as theorised by many people, "Doctor Horrible's gadgets all fail because he knows, deep down, that they could hurt or injure someone." Firstly, I'll defend this theory: most of Horrible's gadgets fail because they'd disable Captain Hammer in some way. Without Captain Hammer, the other villains have free rein over the city, and ''will'' hurt people. Obviously, the gadgets in the final scene fail because he was actually about to kill someone. Thus, when Doctor Horrible thoroughly ''avoids'' hurting people, his gadgets should work, no? How better can you avoid hurting people than to instead save people's lives? Therefore, Doctor Horrible's competancy reaches its full capacity when Penny needs rescuing, and he has the ability to do all the "good villain" things above.
** Additionally, I've thought of another "happy ending avoider", instead of LaserGuidedAmnesia. Basically, Doctor Horrible grabs any and all technology in the shelter while repairing the freeze ray, and pretty much destroys all of it. When rescued, Penny discovers that Horrible broke ''[[SeriousBusiness her iPod]]'', and storms out of the lab angrily. Seems insignificant, but ''was'' an [[TheBigBangTheory 80 gig iPod...]] Alternately, Horrible destroys the entire homeless shelter in his efforts to save Penny, and she gets angry because he apparently hates the homeless.
** Actually, forget the whole "Joss vs. happiness" thing. Instead, when Penny gets raised, she doesn't realise that Billy = Doctor Horrible. Billy and Penny start dating, but Billy knows that if Penny figures out the whole secret identity bit, she'll dump him. Cue a hilarious episodic program in which Billy's secret veers dangerously close to being revealed every episode, but DeusExMachina saves the show at the last second.

to:

--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Jim, I'm a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am a doctor, but I'm not that kind of doctor. I have a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"
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*** Wall socket: Yes, because as we all know, when your weapon ''is powered by the rare, difficult to aqcuire substance known as Wonderflonium'', [[SarcasmMode you can power it by simply plugging it into a wall socket.]]
** *** Prove that wonderflonium is used to power the freeze ray. Sure, it's "needed" for the freeze ray - that doesn't instantly make it a battery.
** *** Finally, what is this nonsense about "a good villain"? Have you been paying attention to the show at all? '''This is Doctor flipping Horrible'''. He is '''NOT''' a "good villain." He's an ''incompetent'' one.
** *** Correct. However, it would be [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] if, upon seeing Penny mortally wounded, Dr. Horrible discovered latent competancy and went into an epic rescue operation, singing "Brand New Day (Reprise)" with determination, easily re-enabling the freeze ray with a crazy assortment of batteries from cell phones, flashlights, and watches, pausing Penny, running down an underground passage back to the lab (with Penny on the paramedic bed thingy, freeze ray mounted on the side), working on his whiteboard to develop a healing device, and generally actually being really cool.
*** **** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7392170/1/Brand_New_Day_Reprise Fandom has granted your wish.]]
** *** Too bad this is a Creator/JossWhedon production. That ending would be too happy for him. :P
** *** Okay, how about this: Dr. Horrible goes all BadAss, uses the freeze ray to pause Penny, escorts her back to the lab, and makes the healing thing. However, when unpaused, it's discovered that Penny's now got LaserGuidedAmnesia, and can't remember anything since Act I started - she's never met either Captain Hammer or Dr. Horrible. (she may even greet Billy in the lab with the same lines as in Act I: Hey, I know you, from the laundromat, etc. Billy doesn't manage to estabish a real, audible connection for some reason, however) Dr. Horrible still gets into the Evil League of Evil, because he defeated Captain Hammer (okay, not a murder, but defeating the ''only superhero'' around should be worth at least as much credit as killing some random person). For additional awesome, Dr. Horrible gets into the [=ELE=] ''while'' building the healing device, and enlists the [=ELE=] resources to help build the device. ("I need wonderflonium. ''Lots'' of wonderflonium.")
** *** I've come up with a justification of this ending: as theorised by many people, "Doctor Horrible's gadgets all fail because he knows, deep down, that they could hurt or injure someone." Firstly, I'll defend this theory: most of Horrible's gadgets fail because they'd disable Captain Hammer in some way. Without Captain Hammer, the other villains have free rein over the city, and ''will'' hurt people. Obviously, the gadgets in the final scene fail because he was actually about to kill someone. Thus, when Doctor Horrible thoroughly ''avoids'' hurting people, his gadgets should work, no? How better can you avoid hurting people than to instead save people's lives? Therefore, Doctor Horrible's competancy reaches its full capacity when Penny needs rescuing, and he has the ability to do all the "good villain" things above.
** *** Additionally, I've thought of another "happy ending avoider", instead of LaserGuidedAmnesia. Basically, Doctor Horrible grabs any and all technology in the shelter while repairing the freeze ray, and pretty much destroys all of it. When rescued, Penny discovers that Horrible broke ''[[SeriousBusiness her iPod]]'', and storms out of the lab angrily. Seems insignificant, but ''was'' an [[TheBigBangTheory 80 gig iPod...]] Alternately, Horrible destroys the entire homeless shelter in his efforts to save Penny, and she gets angry because he apparently hates the homeless.
** *** Actually, forget the whole "Joss vs. happiness" thing. Instead, when Penny gets raised, she doesn't realise that Billy = Doctor Horrible. Billy and Penny start dating, but Billy knows that if Penny figures out the whole secret identity bit, she'll dump him. Cue a hilarious episodic program in which Billy's secret veers dangerously close to being revealed every episode, but DeusExMachina saves the show at the last second.


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** Allow me to simplify the issue here into one semi-repurposed quote:
--->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Tropers, I'm a mad scientist, not a doctor!]][[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am a doctor, but I'm not that kind of doctor. I have a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"
24th Jan '16 8:39:49 PM TobuIshi
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* Wall socket: Yes, because as we all know, when your weapon ''is powered by the rare, difficult to aqcuire substance known as Wonderflonium'', [[SarcasmMode you can power it by simply plugging it into a wall socket.]]
*** Prove that wonderflonium is used to power the freeze ray. Sure, it's "needed" for the freeze ray - that doesn't instantly make it a battery.
*** Finally, what is this nonsense about "a good villain"? Have you been paying attention to the show at all? '''This is Doctor flipping Horrible'''. He is '''NOT''' a "good villain." He's an ''incompetent'' one.
*** Correct. However, it would be [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] if, upon seeing Penny mortally wounded, Dr. Horrible discovered latent competancy and went into an epic rescue operation, singing "Brand New Day (Reprise)" with determination, easily re-enabling the freeze ray with a crazy assortment of batteries from cell phones, flashlights, and watches, pausing Penny, running down an underground passage back to the lab (with Penny on the paramedic bed thingy, freeze ray mounted on the side), working on his whiteboard to develop a healing device, and generally actually being really cool.
**** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7392170/1/Brand_New_Day_Reprise Fandom has granted your wish.]]
*** Too bad this is a Creator/JossWhedon production. That ending would be too happy for him. :P
*** Okay, how about this: Dr. Horrible goes all BadAss, uses the freeze ray to pause Penny, escorts her back to the lab, and makes the healing thing. However, when unpaused, it's discovered that Penny's now got LaserGuidedAmnesia, and can't remember anything since Act I started - she's never met either Captain Hammer or Dr. Horrible. (she may even greet Billy in the lab with the same lines as in Act I: Hey, I know you, from the laundromat, etc. Billy doesn't manage to estabish a real, audible connection for some reason, however) Dr. Horrible still gets into the Evil League of Evil, because he defeated Captain Hammer (okay, not a murder, but defeating the ''only superhero'' around should be worth at least as much credit as killing some random person). For additional awesome, Dr. Horrible gets into the [=ELE=] ''while'' building the healing device, and enlists the [=ELE=] resources to help build the device. ("I need wonderflonium. ''Lots'' of wonderflonium.")
*** I've come up with a justification of this ending: as theorised by many people, "Doctor Horrible's gadgets all fail because he knows, deep down, that they could hurt or injure someone." Firstly, I'll defend this theory: most of Horrible's gadgets fail because they'd disable Captain Hammer in some way. Without Captain Hammer, the other villains have free rein over the city, and ''will'' hurt people. Obviously, the gadgets in the final scene fail because he was actually about to kill someone. Thus, when Doctor Horrible thoroughly ''avoids'' hurting people, his gadgets should work, no? How better can you avoid hurting people than to instead save people's lives? Therefore, Doctor Horrible's competancy reaches its full capacity when Penny needs rescuing, and he has the ability to do all the "good villain" things above.
*** Additionally, I've thought of another "happy ending avoider", instead of LaserGuidedAmnesia. Basically, Doctor Horrible grabs any and all technology in the shelter while repairing the freeze ray, and pretty much destroys all of it. When rescued, Penny discovers that Horrible broke ''[[SeriousBusiness her iPod]]'', and storms out of the lab angrily. Seems insignificant, but ''was'' an [[TheBigBangTheory 80 gig iPod...]] Alternately, Horrible destroys the entire homeless shelter in his efforts to save Penny, and she gets angry because he apparently hates the homeless.
*** Actually, forget the whole "Joss vs. happiness" thing. Instead, when Penny gets raised, she doesn't realise that Billy = Doctor Horrible. Billy and Penny start dating, but Billy knows that if Penny figures out the whole secret identity bit, she'll dump him. Cue a hilarious episodic program in which Billy's secret veers dangerously close to being revealed every episode, but DeusExMachina saves the show at the last second.

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\n* ** Wall socket: Yes, because as we all know, when your weapon ''is powered by the rare, difficult to aqcuire substance known as Wonderflonium'', [[SarcasmMode you can power it by simply plugging it into a wall socket.]]
*** ** Prove that wonderflonium is used to power the freeze ray. Sure, it's "needed" for the freeze ray - that doesn't instantly make it a battery.
*** ** Finally, what is this nonsense about "a good villain"? Have you been paying attention to the show at all? '''This is Doctor flipping Horrible'''. He is '''NOT''' a "good villain." He's an ''incompetent'' one.
*** ** Correct. However, it would be [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] if, upon seeing Penny mortally wounded, Dr. Horrible discovered latent competancy and went into an epic rescue operation, singing "Brand New Day (Reprise)" with determination, easily re-enabling the freeze ray with a crazy assortment of batteries from cell phones, flashlights, and watches, pausing Penny, running down an underground passage back to the lab (with Penny on the paramedic bed thingy, freeze ray mounted on the side), working on his whiteboard to develop a healing device, and generally actually being really cool.
**** *** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7392170/1/Brand_New_Day_Reprise Fandom has granted your wish.]]
*** ** Too bad this is a Creator/JossWhedon production. That ending would be too happy for him. :P
*** ** Okay, how about this: Dr. Horrible goes all BadAss, uses the freeze ray to pause Penny, escorts her back to the lab, and makes the healing thing. However, when unpaused, it's discovered that Penny's now got LaserGuidedAmnesia, and can't remember anything since Act I started - she's never met either Captain Hammer or Dr. Horrible. (she may even greet Billy in the lab with the same lines as in Act I: Hey, I know you, from the laundromat, etc. Billy doesn't manage to estabish a real, audible connection for some reason, however) Dr. Horrible still gets into the Evil League of Evil, because he defeated Captain Hammer (okay, not a murder, but defeating the ''only superhero'' around should be worth at least as much credit as killing some random person). For additional awesome, Dr. Horrible gets into the [=ELE=] ''while'' building the healing device, and enlists the [=ELE=] resources to help build the device. ("I need wonderflonium. ''Lots'' of wonderflonium.")
*** ** I've come up with a justification of this ending: as theorised by many people, "Doctor Horrible's gadgets all fail because he knows, deep down, that they could hurt or injure someone." Firstly, I'll defend this theory: most of Horrible's gadgets fail because they'd disable Captain Hammer in some way. Without Captain Hammer, the other villains have free rein over the city, and ''will'' hurt people. Obviously, the gadgets in the final scene fail because he was actually about to kill someone. Thus, when Doctor Horrible thoroughly ''avoids'' hurting people, his gadgets should work, no? How better can you avoid hurting people than to instead save people's lives? Therefore, Doctor Horrible's competancy reaches its full capacity when Penny needs rescuing, and he has the ability to do all the "good villain" things above.
*** ** Additionally, I've thought of another "happy ending avoider", instead of LaserGuidedAmnesia. Basically, Doctor Horrible grabs any and all technology in the shelter while repairing the freeze ray, and pretty much destroys all of it. When rescued, Penny discovers that Horrible broke ''[[SeriousBusiness her iPod]]'', and storms out of the lab angrily. Seems insignificant, but ''was'' an [[TheBigBangTheory 80 gig iPod...]] Alternately, Horrible destroys the entire homeless shelter in his efforts to save Penny, and she gets angry because he apparently hates the homeless.
*** ** Actually, forget the whole "Joss vs. happiness" thing. Instead, when Penny gets raised, she doesn't realise that Billy = Doctor Horrible. Billy and Penny start dating, but Billy knows that if Penny figures out the whole secret identity bit, she'll dump him. Cue a hilarious episodic program in which Billy's secret veers dangerously close to being revealed every episode, but DeusExMachina saves the show at the last second.
24th Jan '16 8:39:04 PM TobuIshi
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-->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Jim, I'm a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am a doctor, but I'm not that kind of doctor. I have a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"

*** Wall socket: Yes, because as we all know, when your weapon ''is powered by the rare, difficult to aqcuire substance known as Wonderflonium'', [[SarcasmMode you can power it by simply plugging it into a wall socket.]]

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-->"[[Franchise/StarTrek --->"[[Franchise/StarTrek Dammit, Jim, I'm a mad scientist, not a doctor!]] [[Disney/TreasurePlanet I mean, I am a doctor, but I'm not that kind of doctor. I have a doctorate, it's not the same thing.]] You can't ''help'' people with a doctorate, you just ''sit'' there and you're ''useless''!"

*** * Wall socket: Yes, because as we all know, when your weapon ''is powered by the rare, difficult to aqcuire substance known as Wonderflonium'', [[SarcasmMode you can power it by simply plugging it into a wall socket.]]
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