History Headscratchers / District9

29th Dec '16 9:22:42 AM nombretomado
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** Being South African, this troper finds it annoying that to many fans of the movie, the [[BrokenAesop take home lesson]] seems to have been "South Africans are evil and should get invaded by the aliens and it will serve them right". Did people miss the (ironically-named) "human rights" groups protesting the eviction? How about the fact that someone would need to oversee the aliens, and the guys who got the job turned out to be an Evil Corporation, who are not answerable to the South African citizenry in general? Plus, I think you're all overestimating how tolerant ''you'd'' be in that situation. Lest we forget, [[EagleLand America]] also has a history of segregation and reservations, and [[TheApartheidEra South Africa's crime]] was being 30-40 years behind the US socially. So I'd say that the movie is about the human condition in general, not about how evil South Africans are (or Nigerians, for that matter). As for [[HumansAreMorons humanity being stupid]], keep in mind the disillusionment when it turned out the aliens were all pretty dumb (or so it seemed at any rate). Some of the deleted scenes also had a (black, vaguely American-accented) MNU big-shot speculate that the aliens were slaves, pirates who stole the ship, etc. Plus, after almost 30 years nobody was expecting a retaliation, whereas for MNU ('''Multi-National''' United, mind ... not "Stupid/Evil South African-only Corporation") the payoff was weapons tech that could change the entire international balance of power, in favor of whoever paid them the alien mothership's weight in platinum. So ja ... I suppose humans really are that stupid/reckless in this movie, ... and that isn't somehow limited to South Africans. All of humanity seems to be in on this, the [[AmericaSavesTheDay fantasies]] of foreign fanfic writers notwithstanding.

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** Being South African, this troper finds it annoying that to many fans of the movie, the [[BrokenAesop take home lesson]] seems to have been "South Africans are evil and should get invaded by the aliens and it will serve them right". Did people miss the (ironically-named) "human rights" groups protesting the eviction? How about the fact that someone would need to oversee the aliens, and the guys who got the job turned out to be an Evil Corporation, who are not answerable to the South African citizenry in general? Plus, I think you're all overestimating how tolerant ''you'd'' be in that situation. Lest we forget, [[EagleLand America]] also has a history of segregation and reservations, and [[TheApartheidEra [[UsefulNotes/TheApartheidEra South Africa's crime]] was being 30-40 years behind the US socially. So I'd say that the movie is about the human condition in general, not about how evil South Africans are (or Nigerians, for that matter). As for [[HumansAreMorons humanity being stupid]], keep in mind the disillusionment when it turned out the aliens were all pretty dumb (or so it seemed at any rate). Some of the deleted scenes also had a (black, vaguely American-accented) MNU big-shot speculate that the aliens were slaves, pirates who stole the ship, etc. Plus, after almost 30 years nobody was expecting a retaliation, whereas for MNU ('''Multi-National''' United, mind ... not "Stupid/Evil South African-only Corporation") the payoff was weapons tech that could change the entire international balance of power, in favor of whoever paid them the alien mothership's weight in platinum. So ja ... I suppose humans really are that stupid/reckless in this movie, ... and that isn't somehow limited to South Africans. All of humanity seems to be in on this, the [[AmericaSavesTheDay fantasies]] of foreign fanfic writers notwithstanding.
18th Dec '16 6:29:08 AM AlexDKZ
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\n** Wouldn't it be easier to just recruit a bunch of Prawns to be your soldiers? They will do anything for a can or two of catfood.

14th Sep '16 11:44:54 PM PaulA
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*** I immediately thought that they were called prawns for the same reason the formics from ''EndersGame'' were called that, and figured the reporter was intentionally ([[LackOfEmpathy or]] unintentionally trying to give it a ''[[CerebusRetcon more]]'' derogatory meaning.

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*** I immediately thought that they were called prawns for the same reason the formics from ''EndersGame'' ''Literature/EndersGame'' were called that, and figured the reporter was intentionally ([[LackOfEmpathy or]] unintentionally trying to give it a ''[[CerebusRetcon more]]'' derogatory meaning.
19th Aug '16 4:36:39 AM Morgenthaler
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*** This doesn't explain why the South African government thought it would be a good idea to give MNU so much power and authority in the first place, much less why they would allow them to run rampant ''no questions asked''. We see those guys abducting and detaining South African citizens without the authorities inquiring what's going on, and searching their private homes without a hint of at least the authorisation of a court (not to mention, slaughtering a slew of intelligent lifeforms). More so, MNU seems to instigate bounties on peoples' heads and broadcast them on national television, and have people arrested if they reveal information about the company's plain illegal activities. The South African government should have, at the very least, taken note of truly massive shootouts taking place between MNU, aliens and the Nigerian warlords and intervened, if only to show that... well... ''they still care'' about what's happening in their own country, even after 20 years. In fact, the only hint of intervention in the MNU's activitis for most of the film is UnitedNations expy threatening to write an StronglyWordedLetter... ''to a company''. In other words, MNU is doing stuff that even most democratically elected ''governments'' wouldn't get away with, both domestically and internationally.

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*** This doesn't explain why the South African government thought it would be a good idea to give MNU so much power and authority in the first place, much less why they would allow them to run rampant ''no questions asked''. We see those guys abducting and detaining South African citizens without the authorities inquiring what's going on, and searching their private homes without a hint of at least the authorisation of a court (not to mention, slaughtering a slew of intelligent lifeforms). More so, MNU seems to instigate bounties on peoples' heads and broadcast them on national television, and have people arrested if they reveal information about the company's plain illegal activities. The South African government should have, at the very least, taken note of truly massive shootouts taking place between MNU, aliens and the Nigerian warlords and intervened, if only to show that... well... ''they still care'' about what's happening in their own country, even after 20 years. In fact, the only hint of intervention in the MNU's activitis for most of the film is UnitedNations UsefulNotes/UnitedNations expy threatening to write an StronglyWordedLetter... ''to a company''. In other words, MNU is doing stuff that even most democratically elected ''governments'' wouldn't get away with, both domestically and internationally.
17th Aug '16 10:40:53 PM TheRoguePenguin
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13th Mar '16 5:13:24 PM valos
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** Plus, as much as it may potentially undermine the story, sadly the "MNU is THAT evil" answer exacerbates the previous more pragmatic answers. As with previous discussion above, they were quite willing to vivisect Wikus without anesthesia and didn't give any acknowledgement of his questions or objections. There may have been practical reasons (pressed for time, unknown potential effects of anesthetic), but at the same time it seems clear they dehumanized victims of hybridization just as they dehumanized the actual aliens. Assuming they didn't know what caused that (when it was implied they already knew), they likely wouldn't consider him to be a reliable source of information.
15th Jan '16 7:30:01 AM Anddrix
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* They were [[KickTheDog kicking the dog]] to prove their evilness. [[ViewersAreMorons We had to be shown]] they are bad, nasty people who ''deserve'' to get their building blown up and their soldiers killed. This is also why the colonel growls about how he "loves to watch Prawns die;" we need to see why PlotArmor makes him immune to machine guns, lightning cannons, and rocket launchers-- it's saving him for a bloodier fate later.

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* They were [[KickTheDog kicking the dog]] to prove their evilness. [[ViewersAreMorons We had to be shown]] shown they are bad, nasty people who ''deserve'' to get their building blown up and their soldiers killed. This is also why the colonel growls about how he "loves to watch Prawns die;" we need to see why PlotArmor makes him immune to machine guns, lightning cannons, and rocket launchers-- it's saving him for a bloodier fate later.
7th Dec '15 6:06:07 PM somellama
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**children learn our languages from scratch with reduced mental capacity by the age of four, most people learn new languages without any knowledge of them in 3-4 years. if you are talking about the constant interaction between a social worker and the "people" he is serving, after 10-20 years you would just interaction have most of it down, and note that the humans didn't speak prawn, only understood it.. which is easier than speaking a language.
24th Nov '15 10:08:58 AM Morgenthaler
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*** It doesn't just happen in documentaries, either. Take a look at Dalip Singh's dialogue in the remake of ''TheLongestYard''. Better safe than sorry with these things, I suppose.

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*** It doesn't just happen in documentaries, either. Take a look at Dalip Singh's dialogue in the remake of ''TheLongestYard''.''Film/TheLongestYard''. Better safe than sorry with these things, I suppose.
23rd Jul '15 4:54:30 PM AlexDKZ
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*** I think the movie made it pretty clear that the media was influenced by the MNU into exaggerating (if not outright fabricating) news to make the Prawns look bad to the publics. Just look how they lie about Wikus to ensure nobody would cooperate with him.
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