History Headscratchers / DanSchneider

27th Mar '16 8:40:04 PM GrammarNavi
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* After I was adding an example about Nerds in their respective place in AcceptableTargets, I realized, Dan, or at least one or two, if not more, of his writers, seem to absolutely hate the entire concept of being a geek. This isn't like wit other shows, where a nerd being a nerd is the joke. But comedy seems to be built up on presenting a nerd, and then ''beating the poor guy senseless''. Then, they'll depict the nerds as InsufferableGenius types or CassanovaWannabes, just so they can almost say 'look, its not like they don't deserve the beatings!' I already dislike iCarly a lot because of how it treats Freddy, which takes this to DudeNotFunny levels, but most of his other shows I do like, but I can't get past that if there's a nerd, they will almost always be beaten mercilessly, and usually far more than any other character. I can't name a character in his shows who suffer the same level of Amusingnjuries who doesn't have some nerdy credential to him (and its always a him, the only female nerd explicitly shown was given a pass, and making fun of her was treated as a DudeNotFunny thing). So, why, exactly, does Dan, or his writing department, hate nerds so badly.

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* After I was adding an example about Nerds in their respective place in AcceptableTargets, I realized, Dan, or at least one or two, if not more, of his writers, seem to absolutely hate the entire concept of being a geek. This isn't like wit with other shows, where a nerd being a nerd is the joke. But comedy seems to be built up on presenting a nerd, and then ''beating the poor guy senseless''. Then, they'll depict the nerds as InsufferableGenius types or CassanovaWannabes, just so they can almost say 'look, its not like they don't deserve the beatings!' I already dislike iCarly a lot because of how it treats Freddy, which takes this to DudeNotFunny levels, but most of his other shows I do like, but I can't get past that if there's a nerd, they will almost always be beaten mercilessly, and usually far more than any other character. I can't name a character in his shows who suffer the same level of Amusingnjuries AmusingInjuries who doesn't have some nerdy credential to him (and its always a him, the only female nerd explicitly shown was given a pass, and making fun of her was treated as a DudeNotFunny thing). So, why, exactly, does Dan, or his writing department, hate nerds so badly.



* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[Series/ICarly Sam]] and [[Series/{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[KafkaComedy Kafka Comedies]], to the point where it just feels like a SadistShow.

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* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), season''-Series/{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh Series/DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[Series/ICarly Sam]] and [[Series/{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[KafkaComedy Kafka Comedies]], to the point where it just feels like a SadistShow.
19th Mar '16 2:24:56 AM Hossmeister
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27th May '15 6:27:27 PM nombretomado
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** Unlike ''{{iCarly}}'' which uses a montage mostly made up of clips from the episodes and the occasional ThrowItIn moment, {{Victorious}} specifically shot an intro separate to the rest of the episodes and only uses a handful of in-episode moments to make up the rest of the intro.

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** Unlike ''{{iCarly}}'' ''Series/{{iCarly}}'' which uses a montage mostly made up of clips from the episodes and the occasional ThrowItIn moment, {{Victorious}} Series/{{Victorious}} specifically shot an intro separate to the rest of the episodes and only uses a handful of in-episode moments to make up the rest of the intro.



** Northridge, CA is in the [[{{ValleyGirl}} San Fernando Valley]]. Valley girls are stereotyped for being shallow, promiscuous, and materialistic, among other things.

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** Northridge, CA is in the [[{{ValleyGirl}} [[ValleyGirl San Fernando Valley]]. Valley girls are stereotyped for being shallow, promiscuous, and materialistic, among other things.



* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[{{iCarly}} Sam]] and [[{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[{{KafkaComedy}} KafkaComedies]], to the point where it just feels like a SadistShow.

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* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[{{iCarly}} ([[Series/ICarly Sam]] and [[{{Victorious}} [[Series/{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[{{KafkaComedy}} KafkaComedies]], BlackComedy/[[KafkaComedy Kafka Comedies]], to the point where it just feels like a SadistShow.
21st May '15 5:03:19 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[{{iCarly}} Sam]] and [[{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[{{KafkaComedy}} KafkaComedies]], to the point where it just feels like a Sadist Show.

to:

* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[{{iCarly}} Sam]] and [[{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[{{KafkaComedy}} KafkaComedies]], to the point where it just feels like a Sadist Show.SadistShow.
21st May '15 5:02:32 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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** SelfDeprecation? Either that, or Dan's writing team is stuck in a time loop where nerds are still fun to pick fun at.

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** SelfDeprecation? Either that, or Dan's writing team is stuck in a time loop where nerds are still fun to pick fun at.at.
* As a fan of Dan's work (at least from {{All That}} to ''early season''-{{Victorious}}), I always quirked an eyebrow at his obsession with BlackComedy or just a KafkaComedy. These come off as either just uncomfortable or reaches DudeNotFunny levels, and it seemed to happen around the time DrakeAndJosh started around Mid-Season 2/Season 3ish. The constant usage of [[TheScrappy Megan]] as the KarmaHoudini seems far off and he began to repeat this trend in his later shows ([[{{iCarly}} Sam]] and [[{{Victorious}} Jade]]). Same could be said with giving perfectly normal characters the constant TraumaCongaLine, such as with Walter, Craig and Eric, ''Josh'' under so many levels, Robbie, Sinjan, and arguably Tori several times. I don't know why Dan, or at least his writers, have such an obsession with BlackComedy/[[{{KafkaComedy}} KafkaComedies]], to the point where it just feels like a Sadist Show.
29th Sep '13 2:10:56 PM GoneRampant
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* After I was adding an example about Nerds in their respective place in AcceptableTargets, I realized, Dan, or at least one or two, if not more, of his writers, seem to absolutely hate the entire concept of being a geek. This isn't like wit other shows, where a nerd being a nerd is the joke. But comedy seems to be built up on presenting a nerd, and then ''beating the poor guy senseless''. Then, they'll depict the nerds as InsufferableGenius types or CassanovaWannabes, just so they can almost say 'look, its not like they don't deserve the beatings!' I already dislike iCarly a lot because of how it treats Freddy, which takes this to DudeNotFunny levels, but most of his other shows I do like, but I can't get past that if there's a nerd, they will almost always be beaten mercilessly, and usually far more than any other character. I can't name a character in his shows who suffer the same level of Amusingnjuries who doesn't have some nerdy credential to him (and its always a him, the only female nerd explicitly shown was given a pass, and making fun of her was treated as a DudeNotFunny thing). So, why, exactly, does Dan, or his writing department, hate nerds so badly.

to:

* After I was adding an example about Nerds in their respective place in AcceptableTargets, I realized, Dan, or at least one or two, if not more, of his writers, seem to absolutely hate the entire concept of being a geek. This isn't like wit other shows, where a nerd being a nerd is the joke. But comedy seems to be built up on presenting a nerd, and then ''beating the poor guy senseless''. Then, they'll depict the nerds as InsufferableGenius types or CassanovaWannabes, just so they can almost say 'look, its not like they don't deserve the beatings!' I already dislike iCarly a lot because of how it treats Freddy, which takes this to DudeNotFunny levels, but most of his other shows I do like, but I can't get past that if there's a nerd, they will almost always be beaten mercilessly, and usually far more than any other character. I can't name a character in his shows who suffer the same level of Amusingnjuries who doesn't have some nerdy credential to him (and its always a him, the only female nerd explicitly shown was given a pass, and making fun of her was treated as a DudeNotFunny thing). So, why, exactly, does Dan, or his writing department, hate nerds so badly.badly.
** SelfDeprecation? Either that, or Dan's writing team is stuck in a time loop where nerds are still fun to pick fun at.
15th Jun '13 9:52:28 AM Confession0791
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**Northridge, CA is in the [[{{ValleyGirl}} San Fernando Valley]]. Valley girls are stereotyped for being shallow, promiscuous, and materialistic, among other things.
25th Jan '13 6:23:01 PM ablackraptor
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* What does Dan have against Northridge? Anyone from the LA area knows that it's not a bad part of town, but Northridge High is the rival school in Zoey 101 and every time they talk about "Northridge girls" or anyone from Northridge in Victorious, it's treated like the scariest, most awful place ever for no reason.

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* What does Dan have against Northridge? Anyone from the LA area knows that it's not a bad part of town, but Northridge High is the rival school in Zoey 101 and every time they talk about "Northridge girls" or anyone from Northridge in Victorious, it's treated like the scariest, most awful place ever for no reason.reason.
* After I was adding an example about Nerds in their respective place in AcceptableTargets, I realized, Dan, or at least one or two, if not more, of his writers, seem to absolutely hate the entire concept of being a geek. This isn't like wit other shows, where a nerd being a nerd is the joke. But comedy seems to be built up on presenting a nerd, and then ''beating the poor guy senseless''. Then, they'll depict the nerds as InsufferableGenius types or CassanovaWannabes, just so they can almost say 'look, its not like they don't deserve the beatings!' I already dislike iCarly a lot because of how it treats Freddy, which takes this to DudeNotFunny levels, but most of his other shows I do like, but I can't get past that if there's a nerd, they will almost always be beaten mercilessly, and usually far more than any other character. I can't name a character in his shows who suffer the same level of Amusingnjuries who doesn't have some nerdy credential to him (and its always a him, the only female nerd explicitly shown was given a pass, and making fun of her was treated as a DudeNotFunny thing). So, why, exactly, does Dan, or his writing department, hate nerds so badly.
13th Apr '12 11:13:44 PM AnnaMorgause
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** Unlike ''{{iCarly}}'' which uses a montage mostly made up of clips from the episodes and the occasional ThrowItIn moment, {{Victorious}} specifically shot an intro separate to the rest of the episodes and only uses a handful of in-episode moments to make up the rest of the intro.

to:

** Unlike ''{{iCarly}}'' which uses a montage mostly made up of clips from the episodes and the occasional ThrowItIn moment, {{Victorious}} specifically shot an intro separate to the rest of the episodes and only uses a handful of in-episode moments to make up the rest of the intro.intro.
* What does Dan have against Northridge? Anyone from the LA area knows that it's not a bad part of town, but Northridge High is the rival school in Zoey 101 and every time they talk about "Northridge girls" or anyone from Northridge in Victorious, it's treated like the scariest, most awful place ever for no reason.
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