History Headscratchers / CodeLyoko

30th Aug '16 11:05:44 AM ladyofthelibrary
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** "Worthless" is maybe a bit harsh, but likely it's just to summarize what Jérémie was thinking without him going into a lengthy explanation of the pros and cons of this power. The Future Flash '''was''' unpredictable, and also distracting -- a mere Kankrelat shot down Odd once just because he was fully into the transe. Basically, Jérémie's assessment was that the arguable usefulness of the power didn't outweight its obvious flaws.

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** "Worthless" is maybe a bit harsh, but likely it's just to summarize what Jérémie was thinking without him going into a lengthy explanation of the pros and cons of this power. The Future Flash '''was''' unpredictable, and also distracting -- a mere Kankrelat shot down Odd once just because he was fully into the transe. trance. Basically, Jérémie's assessment was that the arguable usefulness of the power didn't outweight outweigh its obvious flaws.




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*** Which it is unlikely Jeremie had the time for; he already was running himself pretty close to ragged for most of the series. He probably decided, as is pointed out above, the ability was too unpredictable and would remain so even after an upgrade and so focused on other projects; him calling it "worthless" was probably all those times Odd asked [[LaymensTerms for English/French]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor coming back to bite him]], since Jeremie had gotten used to no one understanding his full explainations and therefore didn't bother to give one this time.



*** Except the Return to the Past ''was'' part of the plot. As far as deactivating Towers is concerned. It's probably not a coincidence that every single time a Tower is deactivated, a Return to the Past automatically follows until the group learns of the detriments of the feature. And besides, even if Ulrich went with the group and everyone managed to deactivate the Tower without anyone just barely being saved from peril, the group would have still likely done a Return to the Past not wanting Ulrich to bear the brunt of his dad's wrath. Since they didn't know of the detriments of the RTTP, they would of had no reason not to do one.

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*** Except the Return to the Past ''was'' part of the plot. As far as deactivating Towers is concerned. It's probably not a coincidence that every single time a Tower is deactivated, a Return to the Past automatically follows until the group learns of the detriments of the feature. And besides, even if Ulrich went with the group and everyone managed to deactivate the Tower without anyone just barely being saved from peril, the group would have still likely done a Return to the Past not wanting Ulrich to bear the brunt of his dad's wrath. Since they didn't know of the detriments of the RTTP, they would of have had no reason not to do one.



** I think there might be different factors. First, the animation is different on earth and Lyoko, but likely cannon is that they look like themselves but with different outfits. Materilization takes place on earth not Lyoko so they go with earth style animation. As for the bracelet physics makes angels impossable sure they could have wings but that wouldn't mean they could actually fly, either Lyoko has less gravity or since Lyoko is a virtual reality wings=flight. Jeremy might not have included it because materilizing a worthless piece of equiptment would take more effort or energy or he thought it might confuse Aelita. The powers could be a combination of the two or Jeremy could have intentionally boosted their power on earth because he fely it could be useful. The ears thing doesn't make sence because she clearly has elf ears in Lyoko even if they never state it out loud, so either it has to be ignored, written off as never stated out loud, or through hyper justification you could say Jeremy wanted her to look human because he thought it would help her diplomatically if she actualy ran into somebody.

* Here's one for all you guys; in the episode Guided Missile, XANA takes control of a jet (with Jeremie in it, due to him winning a magazine contest he was entered into by Odd without his premission) and uses it in an attempt to destroy the factory. Sounds cool, right? And it is...except I have to wonder if the writers did any research on the subject. First off, the plane he jacks is an F-15. This makes good sense; the 15, like most jets nowadays (especcially American built ones) uses a fly-by-wire system, which means everything the pilot does is transmitted electronically to the control surfaces. Perfect target for XANA to attack. Except; most fly-by-wire jets carry two or more completely (and I mean COMPETELY in every sense of the word) separate computers to avoid just this situation. They're even seperated by plastic and other non-conductive materials. Why didn't the pilot just switch to the back up computer? Second; Jeremie and the pilot can't eject from the plane because XANA won't let them. Which makes no sense; THERE'S NO ELECTRONICS IN A FIGHTERS EJECTION SYSTEM FOR XANA TO CONTROL. The entire system consists of a hardened impact detonator, charges to blow off the canapy, and solid fuel rockets to get the seat out of the plane. Thirdly, XANA obviously doesn't know ANYTHING about military tech. The missile he tries to destroy the factory with? It's an AIM-9 Sidewinder, or (more likely) the licensed French copy. Which, for those of you who don't know, is a heat-seeking air to air missile, used for shooting down other jets. It's warehead doesn't have enough explosives in it to even put a dent in the factory. Though XANA realizes this and uses the jet to try and ram the factory later, but still... Finally; what kind of magazine gives out chances to go up in fully-armed military jets? I mean, COME ON, that's just ASKING for things to go bad...

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** I think there might be different factors. First, the animation is different on earth and Lyoko, but likely cannon is that they look like themselves but with different outfits. Materilization takes place on earth not Lyoko so they go with earth style animation. As for the bracelet physics makes angels impossable impossible sure they could have wings but that wouldn't mean they could actually fly, either Lyoko has less gravity or since Lyoko is a virtual reality wings=flight. Jeremy might not have included it because materilizing a worthless piece of equiptment equipment would take more effort or energy or he thought it might confuse Aelita. The powers could be a combination of the two or Jeremy could have intentionally boosted their power on earth because he fely felt it could be useful. The ears thing doesn't make sence because she clearly has elf ears in Lyoko even if they never state it out loud, so either it has to be ignored, written off as never stated out loud, or through hyper justification you could say Jeremy wanted her to look human because he thought it would help her diplomatically if she actualy actually ran into somebody.

* Here's one for all you guys; in the episode Guided Missile, "Guided Missile", XANA takes control of a jet (with Jeremie in it, due to him winning a magazine contest he was entered into by Odd without his premission) permission) and uses it in an attempt to destroy the factory. Sounds cool, right? And it is...except I have to wonder if the writers did any research on the subject. First off, the plane he jacks is an F-15. This makes good sense; the 15, like most jets nowadays (especcially (especially American built ones) uses a fly-by-wire system, which means everything the pilot does is transmitted electronically to the control surfaces. Perfect target for XANA to attack. Except; most fly-by-wire jets carry two or more completely (and I mean COMPETELY COMPLETELY in every sense of the word) separate computers to avoid just this situation. They're even seperated separated by plastic and other non-conductive materials. Why didn't the pilot just switch to the back up computer? Second; Jeremie and the pilot can't eject from the plane because XANA won't let them. Which makes no sense; THERE'S NO ELECTRONICS IN A FIGHTERS EJECTION SYSTEM FOR XANA TO CONTROL. The entire system consists of a hardened impact detonator, charges to blow off the canapy, canopy, and solid fuel rockets to get the seat out of the plane. Thirdly, XANA obviously doesn't know ANYTHING about military tech. The missile he tries to destroy the factory with? It's an AIM-9 Sidewinder, or (more likely) the licensed French copy. Which, for those of you who don't know, is a heat-seeking air to air missile, used for shooting down other jets. It's warehead doesn't have enough explosives in it to even put a dent in the factory. Though XANA realizes this and uses the jet to try and ram the factory later, but still... Finally; what kind of magazine gives out chances to go up in fully-armed military jets? I mean, COME ON, that's just ASKING for things to go bad...



* Here's a better headscratcher in relation to the above one. XANA has hijacked a jet that has Jeremie in it, and it's been stated several times tha RTTP can't bring anyone back to life if they're killed. Why the hell didn't XANA just crash the jet as soon as he took control of it, effectively killing the only person who really knows how to use the Super Computer, as well as the guy who latter made programs that can find and stop him? True, he was mainly aiming to destory the Super Computer, but in the grand sceam of things it would have made much more sense sense outside of Aelita the other Lyoko Warriors barely know how to virtualize themselves. (Not to mention how much a massive blow it would have been to their moral...)

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* Here's a better headscratcher in relation to the above one. XANA has hijacked a jet that has Jeremie in it, and it's been stated several times tha that RTTP can't bring anyone back to life if they're killed. Why the hell didn't XANA just crash the jet as soon as he took control of it, effectively killing the only person who really knows how to use the Super Computer, as well as the guy who latter made programs that can find and stop him? True, he was mainly aiming to destory destroy the Super Computer, but in the grand sceam scheme of things it would have made much more sense sense since outside of Aelita the other Lyoko Warriors barely know how to virtualize themselves. (Not to mention how much a massive blow it would have been to their moral...)



*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
* Why did they the Return To The Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.

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*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing possessing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
* Why did they the Return To The Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.world.

* A little nitpicky but this one has bugged me for a while. Ulrich and Yumi both use skateboards to get to and from the factory, meaning they have decent balance plus both of them do martial arts, which generally improves balance in the long run. Both of them struggle mightily with Odd's Overboard. How? And before you excuse Yumi with "different body, different center of gravity", she has no other balance issues while in Odd's body so that can't be it.
9th Apr '16 10:34:50 PM XANA
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* If Antea was kidnapped before Franz Hopper decided to destroy Carthage why was she kidnapped? If she was kidnapped after he decided to destroy Carthage why did he want to destroy Carthage?
** Pre-Carthage: She found out the Obligatory Evil Secret of Carthage and was silenced by the guv'mint. Franz deserts the project and builds Lyoko and XANA to retaliate.
** Post-Carthage: He found out the Obligatory Evil Secret instead. Antea is kidnapped as retaliation.
** Joke Answer: The kidnapping was staged so Antea could leave the country and pursue her dream of being.... [[Series/DoctorWho a temp]].

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* If Antea Anthea was kidnapped before Franz Hopper decided to destroy Carthage why was she kidnapped? If she was kidnapped after he decided to destroy Carthage why did he want to destroy Carthage?
** Pre-Carthage: She found out the Obligatory Evil Secret of Carthage and was silenced by the guv'mint.government. Franz deserts the project and builds Lyoko and XANA to retaliate.
** Post-Carthage: He found out the Obligatory Evil Secret instead. Antea Anthea is kidnapped as retaliation.
** Joke Answer: The kidnapping was staged so Antea Anthea could leave the country and pursue her dream of being.... [[Series/DoctorWho a temp]].



*** Or more likely, XANA had been in control of William for such a long time that he could use a "backdoor entry" (to keep with computer analogies) to his mind, able to circumvent the usual immunity of the Lyoko Warriors to specter possession. At least that's how I perceived the event.

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*** Or more likely, XANA had been in control of William for such a long time that he could use a "backdoor entry" entrance" (to keep with computer analogies) to his mind, able to circumvent the usual immunity of the Lyoko Warriors to specter possession. At least that's how I perceived the event.
15th Jan '16 6:21:05 AM Anddrix
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** Because the companies [[ViewersAreMorons think that American viewers can't relate to foreign characters.]]

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** Because the companies [[ViewersAreMorons think that American viewers can't relate to foreign characters.]]
16th Dec '15 5:34:14 PM Ramidel
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*** Just because he can understand human motivations, and even feign them through polymorphic clones, doesn't mean that ''he'' has motivations that will make sense to humanity.
24th Oct '15 6:48:42 AM Morgenthaler
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** To lessen the UnfortunateImplications a bit, it's possible that Odd cut a deal with Millie and Tamiya to set up the camera and edit out anything that would be inappropriate. Millie and Tamiya would probably assume Odd was going to make Sissi look stupid but were [[GenreSavvy smart enough]] not to give Odd anything inappropriate.

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** To lessen the UnfortunateImplications a bit, it's possible that Odd cut a deal with Millie and Tamiya to set up the camera and edit out anything that would be inappropriate. Millie and Tamiya would probably assume Odd was going to make Sissi look stupid but were [[GenreSavvy smart enough]] enough not to give Odd anything inappropriate.
19th Aug '15 1:13:23 PM JJhandle24
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**In the episode Odd was trying to think of hot things such as "blast furnaces" and such to try and fool his body, (or at least distract him from the cold in the real world) being teleported into the Ice sector likely caused the opposite effect by surrounding him with freezing imagery, thus resulting in his remark. in the case of Jeremie remarking on packing coats, he was likely being slightly snarky.
9th Jul '15 12:10:21 PM johnmyster
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** This is answered within the first few episodes of Cody Lyoko Evolution (though the shows may not follow all of the same rules). They can't virtualize themselves again for twelve hours.
7th Jul '15 3:37:43 AM Mattwo
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*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.

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*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.disappeared.
*Why did they the Return To The Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.
20th Dec '14 9:32:27 AM AwwYeAh
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** Xana is a computer program, and programs don't have true forms. Any images are just based on being interpretations through other programs. I think the smoke was just symbolic.

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** Xana is a computer program, and programs don't have true forms. Any images are just based on being interpretations through other programs. I think the smoke was just symbolic.symbolic.
*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
27th Jun '14 10:08:21 PM Teenlyokofan7777
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** The life points are also connected to the human-DNA. If it's removed, then they can never return. In "Missing Link," the Schyphozoa took out Yumi's life points and source code to her DNA. She ended up not being able to return to Earth.
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