History Headscratchers / CodeLyoko

17th Aug '17 11:31:55 PM badgerlover111
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*** An edit like that would have taken much longer to add, plus lifepoints exist outside of Lyoko like in the Digital Sea.

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*** **** An edit like that would have taken much longer to add, plus lifepoints exist outside of Lyoko like in the Digital Sea.



* What happens when William gets devirtualized? I mean he fell in the digital sea they say that once you hit zero points you're done. Sure XANA coukd have worked around that after he sealed the hypnosis on him, but they never referenced this, even the first time they divirtualised him they didn't show any concern or say where he would go.

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* What happens when William gets devirtualized? I mean he fell in the digital sea they say that once you hit zero points you're done. Sure XANA coukd could have worked around that after he sealed the hypnosis on him, but they never referenced this, even the first time they divirtualised him they didn't show any concern or say where he would go.
17th Aug '17 11:30:19 PM badgerlover111
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*** An edit like that would have taken much longer to add, plus lifepoints exist outside of Lyoko like in the Digital Sea.

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*** **** An edit like that would have taken much longer to add, plus lifepoints exist outside of Lyoko like in the Digital Sea.


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** Because Aleta is usually the one to enter towers and XANA needs her alive, and too many misfires increases the chances of her getting hit.

* What happens when William gets devirtualized? I mean he fell in the digital sea they say that once you hit zero points you're done. Sure XANA coukd have worked around that after he sealed the hypnosis on him, but they never referenced this, even the first time they divirtualised him they didn't show any concern or say where he would go.
17th Aug '17 11:25:24 PM badgerlover111
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** XANA may be reckless but he isn't impulsive, he tries thinking his goals threw and honestly doing that seems counterproductive especially sense Aleta is vital to him drawing out Frans Hopper.




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** Simple, XANA knows people wear a lot of clothes and Sissy being naked would cause confusion and red flags.




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** Because most likely it would cut off his access to Aleta, of whom is his only way to draw out Franz Hopper, plus XANA knows they woukd just rebuild it.




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** Ulric would have been too distracted by disappointing his dad that he would have been ineffictive on Lyoko.




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** The marabunta was programmed to attack what didn't have human code, and Aleta didn't have human code due to XANA.




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** She may have had a hidden guilty pleasure that she was ashamed of, also it was more like red than pink.



**** An edit like that would have taken much longer to add, plus lifepoints exist outside of Lyoko like in the Digital Sea.




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** The same reason people who can ride a bike have trouble riding a unicycle, they may be similar but they both have requirements specific for them. Sure they can do brief arial tricks on skateboards but I'm pretty sure they seldom go up a 90 degree angle on them, plus the Overboard is probabky much faster than a skateboard.




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*** Remember, Jeremy told them 'don't buy it' so it's safe to assume XANA was trying to pretend to offer a truce just to get their guards down, then strike when their guards were fullu down.




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** To keep them from going mad with power, plus they only used the computer because they had too, if they kept using it for selfish reasons they would probably end up getting caught and have to reveal themselves, and if you think about it, Jeremy and Aleta have dome some FUCKING ILLEGAL stuff with it (hacking into private networks, forging documentation for people, etc) so they probably want to distance themselves from it as much as they can.
25th May '17 4:53:01 AM viking1911
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* Why does XANA usually only use a few monsters to defend the activated tower? The monsters are pretty much videogame Mooks with questionable AI so it can't be a matter of processing power. My only explanation is that Franz Hopper is somehow limiting his power.
20th Jan '17 5:27:32 PM StFan
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* A little nitpicky but this one has bugged me for a while. Ulrich and Yumi both use skateboards to get to and from the factory, meaning they have decent balance plus both of them do martial arts, which generally improves balance in the long run. Both of them struggle mightily with Odd's Overboard. How? And before you excuse Yumi with "different body, different center of gravity", she has no other balance issues while in Odd's body so that can't be it.

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* A little nitpicky but this one has bugged me for a while. Ulrich and Yumi both use skateboards to get to and from the factory, meaning they have decent balance plus both of them do martial arts, which generally improves balance in the long run. Both of them struggle mightily with Odd's Overboard. How? And before you excuse Yumi with "different body, different center of gravity", she has no other balance issues while in Odd's body so that can't be it.it.

* In "Marabounta", Jeremy explains the Marabounta turning against Aelita because of the virus XANA put inside her at the end of season 1. [[spoiler:Season 2 finale reveals she had no virus to begin with. Then why did the Marabounta turn against her ?]]
** WordOfGod admitted it was a scenaristic mistake, but said you could assume Aelita had a special connection to Lyoko, which might explain what happened.
** Considering XANA was using a data fragment that contained her past memories to connect her to the A.I., the Marabounta likely detected this connection and sought to eliminate any trace to XANA as it was programmed.
** Same episode, why would XANA choose to leave and even show some form of respect through it's monsters after the fight instead of trying again to kill most of the crew and steal those memories it needed? Perhaps grudging respect for Jeremy having created something about as horrifically destructive as itself. XANA being a very twisted, manipulative, and generally destructive intelligence may actually have seen some beauty in the Marabounta.

* Why exactly did they decide to shut down the Supercomputer at the end of the series ? At this point, XANA was gone, making the machine harmless. While there was no use to keep it active either, they still act like it was dangerous...
** The thing works with nuclear fuel (don't remember if uranium or plutonium). Having no idea on how to deal with leaks or trust into the government to not abuse of it, they shut it off while they learned how to safely take apart the nuclear reactor.
** Probably the symbolism of their job being done. The Supercomputer was basically their weapon, so once the war was over, they no longer needed to be armed.
** The show treats programming and software realistically. Now imagine, one day, while an empty Lyoko is running, it suddenly runs into a bug. Reality: Broken.
** Also "Marabounta" was kind enough to show us that emergent intelligence is relatively easy to accomplish in Lyoko, from a simple program designed to search and destroy to full blown independent being in one afternoon, the last thing they need is another XANA taking form naturally when they haven't bothered to watch Lyoko in years or some backup program coming online.
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20th Jan '17 5:23:01 PM StFan
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*** Above theory certainly makes sense when you look at how the characters look after being forcefully devirtulized. They all look like they've got hangovers, or were beat up, or both. Hell, Yumi revirtulizes semi-conscious and curled up on the floor of the scanner. And Odd mentions in XANA Awakens Part I that he feels sick coming out of Lyoko for the first time.
** This is answered within the first few episodes of Cody Lyoko Evolution (though the shows may not follow all of the same rules). They can't virtualize themselves again for twelve hours.

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*** Above theory certainly makes sense when you look at how the characters look after being forcefully devirtulized.devirtualized. They all look like they've got hangovers, or were beat up, or both. Hell, Yumi revirtulizes revirtualizes semi-conscious and curled up on the floor of the scanner. And Odd mentions in XANA "XANA Awakens Part I I" that he feels sick coming out of Lyoko for the first time.
** This is answered within the first few episodes of Cody Lyoko Evolution ''Series/CodyLyokoEvolution'' (though the shows may not follow all of the same rules). They can't virtualize themselves again for twelve hours.



** Its because Franz Hopper shut the super computer off for no rational reason (i.e. XANA wouldn't let Aelita and Franz hideout on Lyoko therefore XANA is dangerous and must be neutralized).

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** Its It's because Franz Hopper shut the super computer off for no rational reason (i.e. XANA wouldn't let Aelita and Franz hideout on Lyoko therefore XANA is dangerous and must be neutralized).



** This troper really liked the mystery of XANA's motivations, and lack of speech or characterization. It made XANA feel more inhuman, and in a refreshing defiance of MyBrilliantEvilPlan, it makes sense that it wouldn't feel the need to explain itself to a group of middle school kids. Unfortunately, they played that angle up way too long. XANA-possessed William would've made a great Locutus-style avatar as the story was coming to a head, but all he ever really did was growl and shout attack names.
** They never gave him a motivation, I decided that for my purposes he's playing a video game, of playing the game master. As for cannon maby he was programmed to help defeat Germiny for instance and the only way to truely defeat them is to defeat all humans.
*** Actually if Xana was made to destroy project Carthage and Waldo used to be a member, Xana could simply be following its original programming without intent mattering when it attacks Waldo and Aelita.

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** This troper really liked the mystery of XANA's motivations, and lack of speech or characterization. It made XANA feel more inhuman, and in a refreshing defiance of MyBrilliantEvilPlan, it makes sense that it wouldn't feel the need to explain itself to a group of middle school middle-school kids. Unfortunately, they played that angle up way too long. XANA-possessed William would've made a great Locutus-style avatar as the story was coming to a head, but all he ever really did was growl and shout attack names.
** They never gave him a motivation, I decided that for my purposes he's playing a video game, of playing the game master. As for cannon maby maybe he was programmed to help defeat Germiny for instance and the only way to truely truly defeat them is to defeat all humans.
*** Actually if Xana XANA was made to destroy project Carthage and Waldo used to be a member, Xana XANAa could simply be following its original programming without intent mattering when it attacks Waldo and Aelita.



** Because they were returned to 'normal' by Franz Hopper. White is associated with Franz Hopper, red with XANA, green with Jérémie and blue is neutral.

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** Because they were returned to 'normal' "normal" by Franz Hopper. White is associated with Franz Hopper, red with XANA, green with Jérémie and blue is neutral.



*** Or just Moonscoop making their typical graphical glitches. I think one episode ''did'' have a Replika Tower return to red as the Skid fled.

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*** Or just Moonscoop [=MoonScoop=] making their typical graphical glitches. I think one episode ''did'' have a Replika Tower return to red as the Skid fled.



*** #2: ReedRichardsIsUseless. The Lyoko Warriors very rarely consider using the Supercomputer for other reasons than to fight XANA, and when they have in the past, it hasn't ended well. (The most successful example, "The Chips Are Down," still led to the windfall being given up at episode's end.)

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*** #2: ReedRichardsIsUseless. The Lyoko Warriors very rarely consider using the Supercomputer for other reasons than to fight XANA, and when they have in the past, it hasn't ended well. (The most successful example, "The Chips Are Down," Down", still led to the windfall being given up at episode's end.)



* If Jérémie can program new magical fighting abilities, such as the bugged Teleport he made for Odd, WHY DOESN'T HE JUST {{GODMODE}} THE WARRIORS? Oh, wait, sorry, Main/StatusQuoIsGod. Still, at least he could invoke Main/SoLastSeason and do an Upgrade.
** Presumeably there's a limit to how much power Jérémie can give them. Plus, the Main/SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and the aforementioned Main/SoLastSeason would power-up XANA accordingly.

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* If Jérémie can program new magical fighting abilities, such as the bugged Teleport he made for Odd, WHY DOESN'T HE JUST {{GODMODE}} THE WARRIORS? Oh, wait, sorry, Main/StatusQuoIsGod. StatusQuoIsGod. Still, at least he could invoke Main/SoLastSeason SoLastSeason and do an Upgrade.
** Presumeably there's a limit to how much power Jérémie can give them. Plus, the Main/SortingAlgorithmOfEvil SortingAlgorithmOfEvil and the aforementioned Main/SoLastSeason SoLastSeason would power-up XANA accordingly.



*** Also don't forget that even if Jeremie ''could'' give the Lyoko warriors insane powers without any bugs, programming is a very tedious, time-consuming task. If he devoted his coding time to improving the Lyoko warriors' abilities, that's time that could be spent doing things like finding Aelita's anti-virus/getting into the internet/working out what XANA's plotting (depending on the season). He can give them new upgrades like an extra sword or a pair of wings now and then, but it's definitely not something that could practically be done very often...

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*** Also don't forget that even if Jeremie Jérémie ''could'' give the Lyoko warriors insane powers without any bugs, programming is a very tedious, time-consuming task. If he devoted his coding time to improving the Lyoko warriors' abilities, that's time that could be spent doing things like finding Aelita's anti-virus/getting into the internet/working out what XANA's plotting (depending on the season). He can give them new upgrades like an extra sword or a pair of wings now and then, but it's definitely not something that could practically be done very often...



*** Huh, I was under the impression that Lyoko Warrior immunity is something that you build up while fighting XANA over time. Jeremie doesn't have it because he only fought XANA once and was scared away. He's aware of this, that's why he said in the episode where they tried to immunize him that instead he'd just "stay away from ghosts for now on." William doesn't have it because he only managed to fight XANA for a short time before he was possessed.

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*** Huh, I was under the impression that Lyoko Warrior immunity is something that you build up while fighting XANA over time. Jeremie Jérémie doesn't have it because he only fought XANA once and was scared away. He's aware of this, that's why he said in the episode where they tried to immunize him that instead he'd just "stay away from ghosts for now on." William doesn't have it because he only managed to fight XANA for a short time before he was possessed.



*** I just assumed that something happened between the prolouge and the beginning of the series, Ulrich's "you know as well as I do" remark in "Teddygodzilla" made it sound like someone had died and the RTTP didn't bring them back.
*** The reason for the theory is kind of self-explanatory if you are to believe the techno-babble explanation of the physics for the RTTP program, in extremely simple terms they are not traveling through time, they are reverting the universe back to the way the computer recognizes it prior to the attack up to 24 hours. In other words time hadn't technically changed; they just rebuilt the preexisting environment of the entire universe therefore if someone dies they "literally" are still are dead, same timeline different looks. Yes, whenever the RTTP activated everyone who dies within that time period will show up dead afterwards but millions of people die of natural causes around the world every second, because of this it can be theorized that it doesn't really seem all that big of deal to everyone else. But that can't really be said about what happens to the people in a XANA attack no matter how you look at it wouldn't be a normal death especially if there were massive amount of people with similar deaths like that, so preventing death caused by the attack is a good idea. It has also been suggested that the supercomputer keeps a backlog of everything that happened since it had been turned on in order revert it back, therefore it can be assumed that when the return to the past program is implemented the Lyoko Warriors aren't actually capable of remembering but it is the computer that helped them retain their memories when it activated. This brings across a kind of Fridge Horror when you think about the fact that anyone is capable of programing the computer to reinsert there memories, this last part proven to be true in Code Lyoko Evolution.
** Also, what about aliens? when the RTTP finally reaches any civilizations, any aliens would have most likley died in the time period while the wave was coming, [[NightmareFuel meaning the RTTP kill all aliens in the universe whenever it is activated.]] This also raises the question of what happens to someone who is born during the reversion.
*** Not at all- they'd just return to their mothers' wombs and be born at the same time. A fetus is alive, and so there's no affect. Even conception shouldn't be affected, unless the Lyoko warriors directly interact with the parents in question.

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*** I just assumed that something happened between the prolouge prologue and the beginning of the series, Ulrich's "you know as well as I do" remark in "Teddygodzilla" made it sound like someone had died and the RTTP didn't bring them back.
*** The reason for the theory is kind of self-explanatory if you are to believe the techno-babble explanation of the physics for the RTTP program, in extremely simple terms they are not traveling through time, they are reverting the universe back to the way the computer recognizes it prior to the attack up to 24 hours. In other words time hadn't technically changed; they just rebuilt the preexisting environment of the entire universe therefore if someone dies they "literally" are still are dead, same timeline different looks. Yes, whenever the RTTP activated everyone who dies within that time period will show up dead afterwards but millions of people die of natural causes around the world every second, because of this it can be theorized that it doesn't really seem all that big of deal to everyone else. But that can't really be said about what happens to the people in a XANA attack no matter how you look at it wouldn't be a normal death especially if there were massive amount of people with similar deaths like that, so preventing death caused by the attack is a good idea. It has also been suggested that the supercomputer keeps a backlog of everything that happened since it had been turned on in order revert it back, therefore it can be assumed that when the return to the past program is implemented the Lyoko Warriors aren't actually capable of remembering but it is the computer that helped them retain their memories when it activated. This brings across a kind of Fridge Horror when you think about the fact that anyone is capable of programing programming the computer to reinsert there memories, this last part proven to be true in Code Lyoko Evolution.
''Code Lyoko: Evolution''.
** Also, what about aliens? when the RTTP finally reaches any civilizations, any aliens would have most likley likely died in the time period while the wave was coming, [[NightmareFuel meaning the RTTP kill all aliens in the universe whenever it is activated.]] This also raises the question of what happens to someone who is born during the reversion.
*** Not at all- all -- they'd just return to their mothers' wombs and be born at the same time. A fetus is alive, and so there's no affect. Even conception shouldn't be affected, unless the Lyoko warriors directly interact with the parents in question.



** There's the slight problem of materialzation. Just sending a few Krabbes to Earth broke the Scanners. Materializing something the size of the Kolossus is quite likely impossible.

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** There's the slight problem of materialzation.materialization. Just sending a few Krabbes to Earth broke the Scanners. Materializing something the size of the Kolossus is quite likely impossible.



*** And I was always under the impression that RttP only failed to stop deaths related to Lyoko, such as XANA's specters killing a warrior or falling into the DS. However, I did always feel that it should only be for the DS, since falling in it deletes you completely. While a reset places everything on earth back to where it was 24 hours ago, if your "data" was destroyed, you would not have anything to put back.

* The full version of the Opening Theme ("A world without danger") calls it Xanadu. I know why they called it that, I'm just wondering, was the opening theme writen before the retool from ''Garage Kids'' to ''Code Lyoko''?

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*** And I was always under the impression that RttP RTTP only failed to stop deaths related to Lyoko, such as XANA's specters killing a warrior or falling into the DS. However, I did always feel that it should only be for the DS, since falling in it deletes you completely. While a reset places everything on earth back to where it was 24 hours ago, if your "data" was destroyed, you would not have anything to put back.

* The full version of the Opening Theme ("A world without danger") World Without Danger") calls it Xanadu. I know why they called it that, I'm just wondering, was the opening theme writen written before the retool from ''Garage Kids'' to ''Code Lyoko''?



* Just a question, but why does Xana never attack anywhere besides Kadic/France? Couldn't he attack somewhere else? Like...Tallin. Or Victoria. Somewhere far away so that the heroes can't stop the attack on Earth. They could still stop the attack on Lyoko, but by then somebody could have died/some damage could have been done.

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* Just a question, but why does Xana XANA never attack anywhere besides Kadic/France? Couldn't he attack somewhere else? Like...Tallin. Or Victoria. Somewhere far away so that the heroes can't stop the attack on Earth. They could still stop the attack on Lyoko, but by then somebody could have died/some damage could have been done.



** In Seasons 1 and 2 he couldn't. Xana was tied to a single computer. By Season 3, Xana's goals changed. He was using the other computers to create an army he could use to take over the Earth. Drawing attention to them with random havoc wouldn't do any good.

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** In Seasons 1 and 2 he couldn't. Xana XANA was tied to a single computer. By Season 3, Xana's XANA's goals changed. He was using the other computers to create an army he could use to take over the Earth. Drawing attention to them with random havoc wouldn't do any good.



** The virtualise program seems to have certain accuracy issues, which is why Aelita can't be dropped right next to a tower. Thus, the program simply isn't accurate enough to drop any thing on ol' Skippy. All things considered, the Warriors are lucky they don't get materialised right over the digital sea.
** ^^ Not gonna lie, this troper [[ComedicSociopathy found the idea of that happening hilarious]]. But yeah, presumably there are only certain points where people can be virtualised onto... What's strange is why Jérémie never tried to make the program more accurate, knowing all the other updates to the supercomputer he did.

* Xana stalks Sissi a few times when she is getting dressed, why does he wait till she is finished to possesses her?

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** The virtualise program seems to have certain accuracy issues, which is why Aelita can't be dropped right next to a tower. Thus, the program simply isn't accurate enough to drop any thing on ol' Skippy. All things considered, the Warriors are lucky they don't get materialised materialized right over the digital sea.
** ^^ Not gonna lie, this troper [[ComedicSociopathy found the idea of that happening hilarious]]. But yeah, presumably there are only certain points where people can be virtualised virtualized onto... What's strange is why Jérémie never tried to make the program more accurate, knowing all the other updates to the supercomputer he did.

* Xana XANA stalks Sissi a few times when she is getting dressed, why does he wait till she is finished to possesses her?



*** Simple answer: so it's not as conspicuous when he takes her body for a test drive. Sissi knows how she likes to dress, but Xana has shown that he can't get the minor details down every time.

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*** Simple answer: so it's not as conspicuous when he takes her body for a test drive. Sissi knows how she likes to dress, but Xana XANA has shown that he can't get the minor details down every time.



** It also makes the story more unbelievable in case Herve and Nicholas tried to tell anyone...

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** It also makes the story more unbelievable in case Herve Hervé and Nicholas tried to tell anyone...



* It, somewhat, bugs me that in the episode 'Vertigo' when Odd, Yumi, and Ulrich climb onto of this plateau in the middle of some forest, Ulrich falls off, crashes into some tree that's connected to it, and eventually falls back to earth, no broken bones. Maybe a little sore, but you would think he'd at least be limping, with a few cuts and bruises and heck, maybe even paralyzed at the most.
** [[{{Fanon}} In my head canon]], I always thought that going to Lyoko made [[MadeOfIron the Warriors' bodies able to take more punishment]]. And to be fair, sometimes the characters react semi-appropriately to injuries...like getting knocked unconscious. ATapOnTheHead isn't really in play here.

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* It, somewhat, bugs me that in the episode 'Vertigo' "Vertigo" when Odd, Yumi, and Ulrich climb onto of this plateau in the middle of some forest, Ulrich falls off, crashes into some tree that's connected to it, and eventually falls back to earth, no broken bones. Maybe a little sore, but you would think he'd at least be limping, with a few cuts and bruises and heck, maybe even paralyzed at the most.
** [[{{Fanon}} In my head canon]], I always thought that going to Lyoko made [[MadeOfIron the Warriors' bodies able to take more punishment]]. And to be fair, sometimes the characters react semi-appropriately to injuries... like getting knocked unconscious. ATapOnTheHead isn't really in play here.



*** Originally they kept their Lyoko powers while on Earth. So on top of being resistant to XANA, immune to RttP, and more resilient, Yumi would also be able to use Telekinesis and be as agile as on Lyoko while still being on Earth. I do not know what that would entail for her or the rest, but that would make them, considering the fact that they can fall like 100 feet down and take lasers to the face, even more resistant.

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*** Originally they kept their Lyoko powers while on Earth. So on top of being resistant to XANA, immune to RttP, RTTP, and more resilient, Yumi would also be able to use Telekinesis and be as agile as on Lyoko while still being on Earth. I do not know what that would entail for her or the rest, but that would make them, considering the fact that they can fall like 100 feet down and take lasers to the face, even more resistant.



** Bull Terrier, see Spuds McKenzie for referance.

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** Bull Terrier, see Spuds McKenzie for referance.reference.



*** Looks like some horrible cross between a chihuahah and a terrier or something like that to this troper.

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*** Looks like some horrible cross between a chihuahah chihuahua and a terrier or something like that to this troper.



** Them picking on her does feed into her being mean to them but she's not mean simply because they don't trust her. When they were nice to her Odd slowly discovered that he didn't like her given thats mostly her being an air head.

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** Them picking on her does feed into her being mean to them but she's not mean simply because they don't trust her. When they were nice to her Odd slowly discovered that he didn't like her given thats that's mostly her being an air head.
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* The English dub was produced by Taffy (and then Moon Scoop) alongside the original French audio. So why is the English dub so insistent on setting the show in the US when it's patently not an American show? Most kids know what a map of the United States looks like, so when "Satellite" shows a view from orbit of what is manifestly a different country, wouldn't you think that would just confuse them? Even worse, there's at least one episode where one of the characters is flipping a coin; American kids know what American money looks like, and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Euro_coins_version_II.png it sure as hell ain't these things.]]

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* The English dub was produced by Taffy (and then Moon Scoop) [=MoonScoop=]) alongside the original French audio. So why is the English dub so insistent on setting the show in the US when it's patently not an American show? Most kids know what a map of the United States looks like, so when "Satellite" shows a view from orbit of what is manifestly a different country, wouldn't you think that would just confuse them? Even worse, there's at least one episode where one of the characters is flipping a coin; American kids know what American money looks like, and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Euro_coins_version_II.png it sure as hell ain't these things.]]



** Except for the mentioned "French exchange student program"...despite the fact that they're already IN France.

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** Except for the mentioned "French exchange student program"... despite the fact that they're already IN France.



*** Might be his nerdyness and the connected social semi-blindless. Most real-life Jeremie-like people this troper knows have a similar lack of care related to their outfits, wearing clothing more for personal comfort and usefulness rather than style.

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*** Might be his nerdyness and the connected social semi-blindless. Most real-life Jeremie-like Jérémie-like people this troper knows have a similar lack of care related to their outfits, wearing clothing more for personal comfort and usefulness rather than style.



*** Confirmation: this troper knows several nerds who have disterbingly deep relationships with fictional, often artifical, characters. Cortana from Halo is an excellent example. And no one comments on it.

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*** Confirmation: this troper knows several nerds who have disterbingly deep relationships with fictional, often artifical, characters. Cortana from Halo ''Halo'' is an excellent example. And no one comments on it.



** In the episode Odd was trying to think of hot things such as "blast furnaces" and such to try and fool his body, (or at least distract him from the cold in the real world) being teleported into the Ice sector likely caused the opposite effect by surrounding him with freezing imagery, thus resulting in his remark. in the case of Jeremie remarking on packing coats, he was likely being slightly snarky.

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** In the episode Odd was trying to think of hot things such as "blast furnaces" and such to try and fool his body, (or at least distract him from the cold in the real world) being teleported into the Ice sector likely caused the opposite effect by surrounding him with freezing imagery, thus resulting in his remark. in In the case of Jeremie Jérémie remarking on packing coats, he was likely being slightly snarky.



** Actually this question has been inderectly answered by the show...several times, just count the reactions of most of the adults (Jim included with the exception of when he was fired), while the actions of the group are understandable (Jérémie wants to materialize Aelita and Jérémie's friends want to help Jérémie), but when you think about it, the fact that they didn't just shut down the super computer and let Aelita return to her eternal slumber makes the group responsible for any damage done by XANA, this point was brought up by Sissi to her father when she found Jérémie's diary and she said something to the effect of how they put everyone at risk with their reckless behavior. The group probably knew this fact too, and that really is something that would get people sent to jail, not just expelled from school. To sum it up, they put the whole world in danger on the off Jérémie could figure out how to materialize Aelita, in short, the group really are a bunch of [[{{Karma Houdini}} Karma houdinis]]
** OK, this is the original poster, and now that I've thought about it a bit more, keeping the Supercomputer a secret makes a lot more sense, primarily because of all the things Jérémie has done over the series. He's hacked into restricted access networks a number of times (e.g. in "Satellite"), created a phony identity and birth certificate for Aelita and various other extremely illegal things. All of that together would easily see Jérémie sent to prison for the rest of his life. The remainder of the gang would also be in trouble for acting as Jérémie's "accomplices", and in particular for destroying a number of supercomputers around the world. With all that in mind, XANA shouldn't have possessed the agents in "False Lead" - they would have discovered what Jérémie had done even outside of the alleged military hacking, and the gang would have gotten screwed over.

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** Actually this question has been inderectly answered by the show... several times, just count the reactions of most of the adults (Jim included with the exception of when he was fired), while the actions of the group are understandable (Jérémie wants to materialize Aelita and Jérémie's friends want to help Jérémie), but when you think about it, the fact that they didn't just shut down the super computer supercomputer and let Aelita return to her eternal slumber makes the group responsible for any damage done by XANA, this point was brought up by Sissi to her father when she found Jérémie's diary and she said something to the effect of how they put everyone at risk with their reckless behavior. The group probably knew this fact too, and that really is something that would get people sent to jail, not just expelled from school. To sum it up, they put the whole world in danger on the off Jérémie could figure out how to materialize Aelita, in short, the group really are a bunch of [[{{Karma Houdini}} Karma houdinis]]
{{Karma Houdini}}s.
** OK, this is the original poster, and now that I've thought about it a bit more, keeping the Supercomputer a secret makes a lot more sense, primarily because of all the things Jérémie has done over the series. He's hacked into restricted access networks a number of times (e.g. in "Satellite"), created a phony identity and birth certificate for Aelita and various other extremely illegal things. All of that together would easily see Jérémie sent to prison for the rest of his life. The remainder of the gang would also be in trouble for acting as Jérémie's "accomplices", and in particular for destroying a number of supercomputers around the world. With all that in mind, XANA shouldn't have possessed the agents in "False Lead" - -- they would have discovered what Jérémie had done even outside of the alleged military hacking, and the gang would have gotten screwed over.



*** Technically, Jeremie was kidnapped and coerced into changing the nuclear battery by XANA!Duncan, so he has an excuse there. And even after they got rid of Duncan he still had to keep the stolen nuclear material or Aelita would have died. Though even after Aelita got her memories back they still didn't return it.

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*** Technically, Jeremie Jérémie was kidnapped and coerced into changing the nuclear battery by XANA!Duncan, XANA/Duncan, so he has an excuse there. And even after they got rid of Duncan he still had to keep the stolen nuclear material or Aelita would have died. Though even after Aelita got her memories back they still didn't return it.



** What's more is that XANA being part of the supercomputer had essentially all the time in the world, but his attacks are always conveniently timed to give the crew a breather in between (most of the time). Why XANA was as relenting on his attacks (especialy when it came to nuking the core), and also why XANA had such a hard time getting into Jérémie's part of the drive when all he probably would have done is activate enough towers and launch a brute force attack.
*** That one actually has a reasonable explanation. It's possible that after Aelita has deactivated a tower, XANA has to 'recover' for a while before he's able to activate another tower. They never actually say this in-universe, but it would make a lot more sense than many aspects of the show...
** Its true Xana could have destroyed the factory in season 3 or 4, and its reasons for not doing so are weak. In season one and two he wanted to win but he didn't want them to give up before he won or he would lose.
*** In Season 3, you're pretty much on the money (then again, [[SeasonalRot Season 3 had a lot of problems]]). My theory is that XANA figured that destroying the factory and the Supercomputer by force would be too easy to stop by deactivating the tower and Returning To The Past (and RTTP can't build his brain up anymore since he's not in the SC), while using Code XANA was slower but more effective and permanent (he didn't know that Jérémie and Franz would be able to reconstruct the Supercomputer). In Season 4, Team Lyoko is no longer the greatest threat to XANA (from XANA's perspective). Franz Hopper is, and XANA wants Aelita to lure him out of the Digital Sea.

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** What's more is that XANA being part of the supercomputer had essentially all the time in the world, but his attacks are always conveniently timed to give the crew a breather in between (most of the time). Why XANA was as relenting on his attacks (especialy (especially when it came to nuking the core), and also why XANA had such a hard time getting into Jérémie's part of the drive when all he probably would have done is activate enough towers and launch a brute force attack.
*** That one actually has a reasonable explanation. It's possible that after Aelita has deactivated a tower, XANA has to 'recover' "recover" for a while before he's able to activate another tower. They never actually say this in-universe, but it would make a lot more sense than many aspects of the show...
** Its It's true Xana could have destroyed the factory in season 3 or 4, and its reasons for not doing so are weak. In season one and two he wanted to win but he didn't want them to give up before he won or he would lose.
*** In Season 3, you're pretty much on the money (then again, [[SeasonalRot Season 3 had a lot of problems]]). My theory is that XANA figured that destroying the factory and the Supercomputer by force would be too easy to stop by deactivating the tower and Returning To The to the Past (and RTTP can't build his brain up anymore since he's not in the SC), while using Code Code: XANA was slower but more effective and permanent (he didn't know that Jérémie and Franz would be able to reconstruct the Supercomputer). In Season 4, Team Lyoko is no longer the greatest threat to XANA (from XANA's perspective). Franz Hopper is, and XANA wants Aelita to lure him out of the Digital Sea.



*** I don't know about France, but I know that in every US State with a lottery, you have to be 18 to cash a winning ticket, and since jackpots have to be cashed at the main office in the state capitol, you aren't going to be able to get a vendor to help you dodge the age restriction. So Ulrich would be left with a winning lottery ticket that he isn't legally able to cash because he's too young. Sure, he could sell the ticket- at an extremely discounted price (the buyer would be in a position to demand a very nice return on investment both because of the fact that Ulrich couldn't cash the ticket himself and the risk that the ticket is a counterfeit). Furthermore, any attempt to solicit a buyer attracts attention the gang doesn't want.

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*** I don't know about France, but I know that in every US State with a lottery, you have to be 18 to cash a winning ticket, and since jackpots have to be cashed at the main office in the state capitol, you aren't going to be able to get a vendor to help you dodge the age restriction. So Ulrich would be left with a winning lottery ticket that he isn't legally able to cash because he's too young. Sure, he could sell the ticket- ticket -- at an extremely discounted price (the buyer would be in a position to demand a very nice return on investment both because of the fact that Ulrich couldn't cash the ticket himself and the risk that the ticket is a counterfeit). Furthermore, any attempt to solicit a buyer attracts attention the gang doesn't want.



** You're forgetting that Jeremie reprogrammed her DNA code in Season One; prior to the end of Season 2, when she was made completely human again with her original DNA code, she had to go into a tower every time she was materialized to go through the process of translating data into DNA. So it's likely that when her custom-programmed DNA was transferred to Yumi, it would take on Yumi's original form.

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** You're forgetting that Jeremie Jérémie reprogrammed her DNA code in Season One; prior to the end of Season 2, when she was made completely human again with her original DNA code, she had to go into a tower every time she was materialized to go through the process of translating data into DNA. So it's likely that when her custom-programmed DNA was transferred to Yumi, it would take on Yumi's original form.



** Aelita attempted suicide in "The Key." Jeremy saved her.

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** Aelita attempted suicide in "The Key." Jeremy Key". Jérémie saved her.



** [[FridgeBrilliance This is probably the reason why Ulrich and Odd get poor grades]]. They certainly aren't unintelligent, but because they spend so much time fighting XANA they simply don't have the energy or determination to do any studying, thus meaning their grades suffer. Jérémie and Aelita, on the other hand, are both ''extremely'' intelligent, especially regarding computers - they can probably get homework done in half the time it takes anyone else... As for Yumi... maybe homework is preferable to being around her annoying younger brother?

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** [[FridgeBrilliance This is probably the reason why Ulrich and Odd get poor grades]]. They certainly aren't unintelligent, but because they spend so much time fighting XANA they simply don't have the energy or determination to do any studying, thus meaning their grades suffer. Jérémie and Aelita, on the other hand, are both ''extremely'' intelligent, especially regarding computers - -- they can probably get homework done in half the time it takes anyone else... As for Yumi... maybe homework is preferable to being around her annoying younger brother?



** Jeremie could have just upgraded and fixed the flaws to make it better like having it play in one eye and still be able to see the battle without needing to stop for a break or make him go into auto defense while the Future Flash is in use and be used at will. All it needed was a few improvements.
*** Which it is unlikely Jeremie had the time for; he already was running himself pretty close to ragged for most of the series. He probably decided, as is pointed out above, the ability was too unpredictable and would remain so even after an upgrade and so focused on other projects; him calling it "worthless" was probably all those times Odd asked [[LaymensTerms for English/French]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor coming back to bite him]], since Jeremie had gotten used to no one understanding his full explainations and therefore didn't bother to give one this time.

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** Jeremie Jérémie could have just upgraded and fixed the flaws to make it better like having it play in one eye and still be able to see the battle without needing to stop for a break or make him go into auto defense while the Future Flash is in use and be used at will. All it needed was a few improvements.
*** Which it is unlikely Jeremie Jérémie had the time for; he already was running himself pretty close to ragged for most of the series. He probably decided, as is pointed out above, the ability was too unpredictable and would remain so even after an upgrade and so focused on other projects; him calling it "worthless" was probably all those times Odd asked [[LaymensTerms for English/French]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor coming back to bite him]], since Jeremie Jérémie had gotten used to no one no-one understanding his full explainations explanations and therefore didn't bother to give one this time.



* In '''A Bad Turn''', how did that Krabbe even fit in the scanner? We saw Its leg get out, but nothing else, there is no way it would fit in there. And we see Ulrich on top of one, judging by his size, that Krabbe has got to be the size of a car, both width and length.

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* In '''A "A Bad Turn''', Turn", how did that Krabbe even fit in the scanner? We saw Its leg get out, but nothing else, there is no way it would fit in there. And we see Ulrich on top of one, judging by his size, that Krabbe has got to be the size of a car, both width and length.



* Jérémie created the Marabounta to destroy Xana, right? So then why did it attack Aelita? I know in the episode it was justified because Xana gave Aelita a virus, and thus the Marabounta saw Aelita as part of Xana. So far so good, until the end of the season when it is discovered that Aelita didn't have a virus from Xana. So why did it attack her?

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* Jérémie created the Marabounta to destroy Xana, right? So then why did it attack Aelita? I know in the episode it was justified because Xana gave Aelita a virus, and thus the Marabounta saw Aelita as part of Xana. So far so good, until the end of the season when it is discovered that Aelita didn't have a virus from Xana.XANA. So why did it attack her?






* Regarding the nature of teleportation, Jeremie specifies that the warriors become 'spectres of their virtual manifestations', rather than maintaining their real bodies but with added Lyoko powers. In that sense, the characters should look identical to their Lyoko forms, but there are many noticeable differences between their Lyoko forms and their teleported forms. This is perhaps most obvious with Aelita. Not only is her star bracelet missing, but also she has regular human ears, rather than elf ears, black eyes rather than green, and even her Earth form's eyebrows! Why are there these minor differences between their appearances? In addition, many of their Lyoko powers function differently - Odd's shield, for instance, is much bigger, covering his whole body rather than just his torso, whilst Aelita's energy fields are apparently powerful enough to knock out SIX robots at a time...

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* Regarding the nature of teleportation, Jeremie Jérémie specifies that the warriors become 'spectres "spectres of their virtual manifestations', manifestations", rather than maintaining their real bodies but with added Lyoko powers. In that sense, the characters should look identical to their Lyoko forms, but there are many noticeable differences between their Lyoko forms and their teleported forms. This is perhaps most obvious with Aelita. Not only is her star bracelet missing, but also she has regular human ears, rather than elf ears, black eyes rather than green, and even her Earth form's eyebrows! Why are there these minor differences between their appearances? In addition, many of their Lyoko powers function differently - -- Odd's shield, for instance, is much bigger, covering his whole body rather than just his torso, whilst Aelita's energy fields are apparently powerful enough to knock out SIX robots at a time...



** I think there might be different factors. First, the animation is different on earth and Lyoko, but likely cannon is that they look like themselves but with different outfits. Materilization takes place on earth not Lyoko so they go with earth style animation. As for the bracelet physics makes angels impossible sure they could have wings but that wouldn't mean they could actually fly, either Lyoko has less gravity or since Lyoko is a virtual reality wings=flight. Jeremy might not have included it because materilizing a worthless piece of equipment would take more effort or energy or he thought it might confuse Aelita. The powers could be a combination of the two or Jeremy could have intentionally boosted their power on earth because he felt it could be useful. The ears thing doesn't make sence because she clearly has elf ears in Lyoko even if they never state it out loud, so either it has to be ignored, written off as never stated out loud, or through hyper justification you could say Jeremy wanted her to look human because he thought it would help her diplomatically if she actually ran into somebody.

* Here's one for all you guys; in the episode "Guided Missile", XANA takes control of a jet (with Jeremie in it, due to him winning a magazine contest he was entered into by Odd without his permission) and uses it in an attempt to destroy the factory. Sounds cool, right? And it is...except I have to wonder if the writers did any research on the subject. First off, the plane he jacks is an F-15. This makes good sense; the 15, like most jets nowadays (especially American built ones) uses a fly-by-wire system, which means everything the pilot does is transmitted electronically to the control surfaces. Perfect target for XANA to attack. Except; most fly-by-wire jets carry two or more completely (and I mean COMPLETELY in every sense of the word) separate computers to avoid just this situation. They're even separated by plastic and other non-conductive materials. Why didn't the pilot just switch to the back up computer? Second; Jeremie and the pilot can't eject from the plane because XANA won't let them. Which makes no sense; THERE'S NO ELECTRONICS IN A FIGHTERS EJECTION SYSTEM FOR XANA TO CONTROL. The entire system consists of a hardened impact detonator, charges to blow off the canopy, and solid fuel rockets to get the seat out of the plane. Thirdly, XANA obviously doesn't know ANYTHING about military tech. The missile he tries to destroy the factory with? It's an AIM-9 Sidewinder, or (more likely) the licensed French copy. Which, for those of you who don't know, is a heat-seeking air to air missile, used for shooting down other jets. It's warehead doesn't have enough explosives in it to even put a dent in the factory. Though XANA realizes this and uses the jet to try and ram the factory later, but still... Finally; what kind of magazine gives out chances to go up in fully-armed military jets? I mean, COME ON, that's just ASKING for things to go bad...

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** I think there might be different factors. First, the animation is different on earth and Lyoko, but likely cannon is that they look like themselves but with different outfits. Materilization Materialization takes place on earth not Lyoko Lyoko, so they go with earth style earth-style animation. As for the bracelet physics makes angels impossible sure they could have wings but that wouldn't mean they could actually fly, either Lyoko has less gravity or since Lyoko is a virtual reality wings=flight. Jeremy might not have included it because materilizing materializing a worthless piece of equipment would take more effort or energy or he thought it might confuse Aelita. The powers could be a combination of the two or Jeremy Jérémie could have intentionally boosted their power on earth because he felt it could be useful. The ears thing doesn't make sence sense because she clearly has elf ears in Lyoko even if they never state it out loud, so either it has to be ignored, written off as never stated out loud, or through hyper justification you could say Jeremy Jérémie wanted her to look human because he thought it would help her diplomatically if she actually ran into somebody.

* Here's one for all you guys; in the episode "Guided Missile", XANA takes control of a jet (with Jeremie Jérémie in it, due to him winning a magazine contest he was entered into by Odd without his permission) and uses it in an attempt to destroy the factory. Sounds cool, right? And it is... except I have to wonder if the writers did any research on the subject. First off, the plane he jacks is an F-15. This makes good sense; the 15, like most jets nowadays (especially American built ones) uses a fly-by-wire system, which means everything the pilot does is transmitted electronically to the control surfaces. Perfect target for XANA to attack. Except; most fly-by-wire jets carry two or more completely (and I mean COMPLETELY in every sense of the word) separate computers to avoid just this situation. They're even separated by plastic and other non-conductive materials. Why didn't the pilot just switch to the back up computer? Second; Jeremie Jérémie and the pilot can't eject from the plane because XANA won't let them. Which makes no sense; THERE'S NO ELECTRONICS IN A FIGHTERS EJECTION SYSTEM FOR XANA TO CONTROL. The entire system consists of a hardened impact detonator, charges to blow off the canopy, and solid fuel rockets to get the seat out of the plane. Thirdly, XANA obviously doesn't know ANYTHING about military tech. The missile he tries to destroy the factory with? It's an AIM-9 Sidewinder, or (more likely) the licensed French copy. Which, for those of you who don't know, is a heat-seeking air to air missile, used for shooting down other jets. It's warehead doesn't have enough explosives in it to even put a dent in the factory. Though XANA realizes this and uses the jet to try and ram the factory later, but still... Finally; what kind of magazine gives out chances to go up in fully-armed military jets? I mean, COME ON, that's just ASKING for things to go bad...



** True...but I'm pretty sure that bear had some kind of electronics in it for XANA to infect.
** Xana's also infected rats, people, and countless other things. It created energy duplicates of robot Kiwi. If Xana wants to infect the jet, it could conceivably infect every square inch and make damn sure every single backup failed.

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** True... but I'm pretty sure that bear had some kind of electronics in it for XANA to infect.
** Xana's also infected rats, people, and countless other things. It created energy duplicates of robot Kiwi. If Xana XANA wants to infect the jet, it could conceivably infect every square inch and make damn sure every single backup failed.



* Here's a better headscratcher in relation to the above one. XANA has hijacked a jet that has Jeremie in it, and it's been stated several times that RTTP can't bring anyone back to life if they're killed. Why the hell didn't XANA just crash the jet as soon as he took control of it, effectively killing the only person who really knows how to use the Super Computer, as well as the guy who latter made programs that can find and stop him? True, he was mainly aiming to destroy the Super Computer, but in the grand scheme of things it would have made much more sense since outside of Aelita the other Lyoko Warriors barely know how to virtualize themselves. (Not to mention how much a massive blow it would have been to their moral...)

* A minor gripe, but it still bugs me. OK, so it's no secret in-universe that Yumi's favourite colour is black, and that she hates pink (thus acting as a contrast to Aelita). Yet despite this, her phys ed outfit clearly has pink trim. On top of that, Jeremie himself said that he thinks Yumi looks "awful" in pink in "Cold Sweat", yet he designed her a Lyoko outfit which has lots of pink on it?
** Her outfit is a mental projection. Jeremie only had design input on the upgraded one.
*** That was the outfit I was thinking of when I mentioned it - her season 4 outfit is very pink.

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* Here's a better headscratcher in relation to the above one. XANA has hijacked a jet that has Jeremie Jérémie in it, and it's been stated several times that RTTP can't bring anyone back to life if they're killed. Why the hell didn't XANA just crash the jet as soon as he took control of it, effectively killing the only person who really knows how to use the Super Computer, as well as the guy who latter made programs that can find and stop him? True, he was mainly aiming to destroy the Super Computer, but in the grand scheme of things it would have made much more sense since outside of Aelita the other Lyoko Warriors barely know how to virtualize themselves. (Not to mention how much a massive blow it would have been to their moral...)

* A minor gripe, but it still bugs me. OK, so it's no secret in-universe that Yumi's favourite favorite colour is black, and that she hates pink (thus acting as a contrast to Aelita). Yet despite this, her phys ed outfit clearly has pink trim. On top of that, Jeremie Jérémie himself said that he thinks Yumi looks "awful" in pink in "Cold Sweat", yet he designed her a Lyoko outfit which has lots of pink on it?
** Her outfit is a mental projection. Jeremie Jérémie only had design input on the upgraded one.
*** That was the outfit I was thinking of when I mentioned it - -- her season 4 outfit is very pink.



* Why did Franz Hopper, in designing Lyoko as a world for himself and his daughter to live in, include a videogame-like life points system that devirtualizes you when you lose? Since he wasn't there to play a videogame, wouldn't it make more sense to have no life points, and when people want to leave they just type a code in a tower? My pet theory for this was that Franz didn't build Lyoko from scratch, he recycled a lot of code from someone else's deep immersion videogame, perhaps a military training simulation, and didn't bother to remove the life points feature. But this is never addressed in series. Also, one wonders why Jeremie doesn't remove the life points feature so the monsters can't devirtualize them. Then they'd be able to destroy monsters and deactivate towers indefinitely. Though I guess that may make XANA more intent on possessing them or throwing them in the digital sea instead, but that's also never addressed in series.
** The life point system is no doubt built into the source code, which Jeremie can't modify. As for why it exists in the first place, the most reasonable explanation is that it's a failsafe or intentionally installed for fun.
*** That being said, why didn't Jeremy remove it when he basically re-did Lyoko?

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* Why did Franz Hopper, in designing Lyoko as a world for himself and his daughter to live in, include a videogame-like life points system that devirtualizes you when you lose? Since he wasn't there to play a videogame, wouldn't it make more sense to have no life points, and when people want to leave they just type a code in a tower? My pet theory for this was that Franz didn't build Lyoko from scratch, he recycled a lot of code from someone else's deep immersion videogame, perhaps a military training simulation, and didn't bother to remove the life points feature. But this is never addressed in series. Also, one wonders why Jeremie Jérémie doesn't remove the life points feature so the monsters can't devirtualize them. Then they'd be able to destroy monsters and deactivate towers indefinitely. Though I guess that may make XANA more intent on possessing them or throwing them in the digital sea instead, but that's also never addressed in series.
** The life point system is no doubt built into the source code, which Jeremie Jérémie can't modify. As for why it exists in the first place, the most reasonable explanation is that it's a failsafe or intentionally installed for fun.
*** That being said, why didn't Jeremy Jérémie remove it when he basically re-did Lyoko?



** XANA's attacks are almost always focused entirely on the Lyoko Warriors, or on something like destroying Lyoko - shutting down the supercomputer wouldn't do much good in those circumstances. Plus there's always the small chance that if the supercomputer was shut down, they wouldn't be able to turn it back on again, which would mean they'd have no way to fight XANA.

* Jeremy has shown he can transport them to Lyoko in virtually every area except Sector 5. After the season 2 premiere why can't they just have the Lyoko Warriors go in first clear the area and then transfer Aelita closer to the tower?

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** XANA's attacks are almost always focused entirely on the Lyoko Warriors, or on something like destroying Lyoko - -- shutting down the supercomputer wouldn't do much good in those circumstances. Plus there's always the small chance that if the supercomputer was shut down, they wouldn't be able to turn it back on again, which would mean they'd have no way to fight XANA.

* Jeremy Jérémie has shown he can transport them to Lyoko in virtually every area except Sector 5. After the season 2 premiere why can't they just have the Lyoko Warriors go in first clear the area and then transfer Aelita closer to the tower?



* Okay; while in the Season 2 finale, it was ''VERY'' fortunate the XANA-possessed Jim ''didn't'' kill Jeremie...why didn't he?

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* Okay; while in the Season 2 finale, it was ''VERY'' fortunate the XANA-possessed Jim ''didn't'' kill Jeremie...Jérémie... why didn't he?



* Why does Xana bother with using electric beams to kill the Lyoko Warriors? They never seem to do any real damage aside from stunning them. He should have just possessed someone with a gun and used that to kill them.

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* Why does Xana XANA bother with using electric beams to kill the Lyoko Warriors? They never seem to do any real damage aside from stunning them. He should have just possessed someone with a gun and used that to kill them.



* Couldn't the black blob(for lack of a better phrase) rising outside from the Factory to the sky from the end of the episode "The Key" be XANA's true form? That is him directly escaping the Supercomputer, not some specter or polymorphic clone right?

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* Couldn't the black blob(for blob (for lack of a better phrase) rising outside from the Factory to the sky from the end of the episode "The Key" be XANA's true form? That is him directly escaping the Supercomputer, not some specter or polymorphic clone right?



*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possessing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
* Why did they the Return To The Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.

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*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko ''Code Lyoko'' has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie Jérémie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's Jérémie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possessing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's Jérémie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
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* Why did they the Return To The to the Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.
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** "Worthless" is maybe a bit harsh, but likely it's just to summarize what Jérémie was thinking without him going into a lengthy explanation of the pros and cons of this power. The Future Flash '''was''' unpredictable, and also distracting -- a mere Kankrelat shot down Odd once just because he was fully into the transe. Basically, Jérémie's assessment was that the arguable usefulness of the power didn't outweight its obvious flaws.

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** "Worthless" is maybe a bit harsh, but likely it's just to summarize what Jérémie was thinking without him going into a lengthy explanation of the pros and cons of this power. The Future Flash '''was''' unpredictable, and also distracting -- a mere Kankrelat shot down Odd once just because he was fully into the transe. trance. Basically, Jérémie's assessment was that the arguable usefulness of the power didn't outweight outweigh its obvious flaws.




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*** Which it is unlikely Jeremie had the time for; he already was running himself pretty close to ragged for most of the series. He probably decided, as is pointed out above, the ability was too unpredictable and would remain so even after an upgrade and so focused on other projects; him calling it "worthless" was probably all those times Odd asked [[LaymensTerms for English/French]] [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor coming back to bite him]], since Jeremie had gotten used to no one understanding his full explainations and therefore didn't bother to give one this time.



*** Except the Return to the Past ''was'' part of the plot. As far as deactivating Towers is concerned. It's probably not a coincidence that every single time a Tower is deactivated, a Return to the Past automatically follows until the group learns of the detriments of the feature. And besides, even if Ulrich went with the group and everyone managed to deactivate the Tower without anyone just barely being saved from peril, the group would have still likely done a Return to the Past not wanting Ulrich to bear the brunt of his dad's wrath. Since they didn't know of the detriments of the RTTP, they would of had no reason not to do one.

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*** Except the Return to the Past ''was'' part of the plot. As far as deactivating Towers is concerned. It's probably not a coincidence that every single time a Tower is deactivated, a Return to the Past automatically follows until the group learns of the detriments of the feature. And besides, even if Ulrich went with the group and everyone managed to deactivate the Tower without anyone just barely being saved from peril, the group would have still likely done a Return to the Past not wanting Ulrich to bear the brunt of his dad's wrath. Since they didn't know of the detriments of the RTTP, they would of have had no reason not to do one.



** I think there might be different factors. First, the animation is different on earth and Lyoko, but likely cannon is that they look like themselves but with different outfits. Materilization takes place on earth not Lyoko so they go with earth style animation. As for the bracelet physics makes angels impossable sure they could have wings but that wouldn't mean they could actually fly, either Lyoko has less gravity or since Lyoko is a virtual reality wings=flight. Jeremy might not have included it because materilizing a worthless piece of equiptment would take more effort or energy or he thought it might confuse Aelita. The powers could be a combination of the two or Jeremy could have intentionally boosted their power on earth because he fely it could be useful. The ears thing doesn't make sence because she clearly has elf ears in Lyoko even if they never state it out loud, so either it has to be ignored, written off as never stated out loud, or through hyper justification you could say Jeremy wanted her to look human because he thought it would help her diplomatically if she actualy ran into somebody.

* Here's one for all you guys; in the episode Guided Missile, XANA takes control of a jet (with Jeremie in it, due to him winning a magazine contest he was entered into by Odd without his premission) and uses it in an attempt to destroy the factory. Sounds cool, right? And it is...except I have to wonder if the writers did any research on the subject. First off, the plane he jacks is an F-15. This makes good sense; the 15, like most jets nowadays (especcially American built ones) uses a fly-by-wire system, which means everything the pilot does is transmitted electronically to the control surfaces. Perfect target for XANA to attack. Except; most fly-by-wire jets carry two or more completely (and I mean COMPETELY in every sense of the word) separate computers to avoid just this situation. They're even seperated by plastic and other non-conductive materials. Why didn't the pilot just switch to the back up computer? Second; Jeremie and the pilot can't eject from the plane because XANA won't let them. Which makes no sense; THERE'S NO ELECTRONICS IN A FIGHTERS EJECTION SYSTEM FOR XANA TO CONTROL. The entire system consists of a hardened impact detonator, charges to blow off the canapy, and solid fuel rockets to get the seat out of the plane. Thirdly, XANA obviously doesn't know ANYTHING about military tech. The missile he tries to destroy the factory with? It's an AIM-9 Sidewinder, or (more likely) the licensed French copy. Which, for those of you who don't know, is a heat-seeking air to air missile, used for shooting down other jets. It's warehead doesn't have enough explosives in it to even put a dent in the factory. Though XANA realizes this and uses the jet to try and ram the factory later, but still... Finally; what kind of magazine gives out chances to go up in fully-armed military jets? I mean, COME ON, that's just ASKING for things to go bad...

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** I think there might be different factors. First, the animation is different on earth and Lyoko, but likely cannon is that they look like themselves but with different outfits. Materilization takes place on earth not Lyoko so they go with earth style animation. As for the bracelet physics makes angels impossable impossible sure they could have wings but that wouldn't mean they could actually fly, either Lyoko has less gravity or since Lyoko is a virtual reality wings=flight. Jeremy might not have included it because materilizing a worthless piece of equiptment equipment would take more effort or energy or he thought it might confuse Aelita. The powers could be a combination of the two or Jeremy could have intentionally boosted their power on earth because he fely felt it could be useful. The ears thing doesn't make sence because she clearly has elf ears in Lyoko even if they never state it out loud, so either it has to be ignored, written off as never stated out loud, or through hyper justification you could say Jeremy wanted her to look human because he thought it would help her diplomatically if she actualy actually ran into somebody.

* Here's one for all you guys; in the episode Guided Missile, "Guided Missile", XANA takes control of a jet (with Jeremie in it, due to him winning a magazine contest he was entered into by Odd without his premission) permission) and uses it in an attempt to destroy the factory. Sounds cool, right? And it is...except I have to wonder if the writers did any research on the subject. First off, the plane he jacks is an F-15. This makes good sense; the 15, like most jets nowadays (especcially (especially American built ones) uses a fly-by-wire system, which means everything the pilot does is transmitted electronically to the control surfaces. Perfect target for XANA to attack. Except; most fly-by-wire jets carry two or more completely (and I mean COMPETELY COMPLETELY in every sense of the word) separate computers to avoid just this situation. They're even seperated separated by plastic and other non-conductive materials. Why didn't the pilot just switch to the back up computer? Second; Jeremie and the pilot can't eject from the plane because XANA won't let them. Which makes no sense; THERE'S NO ELECTRONICS IN A FIGHTERS EJECTION SYSTEM FOR XANA TO CONTROL. The entire system consists of a hardened impact detonator, charges to blow off the canapy, canopy, and solid fuel rockets to get the seat out of the plane. Thirdly, XANA obviously doesn't know ANYTHING about military tech. The missile he tries to destroy the factory with? It's an AIM-9 Sidewinder, or (more likely) the licensed French copy. Which, for those of you who don't know, is a heat-seeking air to air missile, used for shooting down other jets. It's warehead doesn't have enough explosives in it to even put a dent in the factory. Though XANA realizes this and uses the jet to try and ram the factory later, but still... Finally; what kind of magazine gives out chances to go up in fully-armed military jets? I mean, COME ON, that's just ASKING for things to go bad...



* Here's a better headscratcher in relation to the above one. XANA has hijacked a jet that has Jeremie in it, and it's been stated several times tha RTTP can't bring anyone back to life if they're killed. Why the hell didn't XANA just crash the jet as soon as he took control of it, effectively killing the only person who really knows how to use the Super Computer, as well as the guy who latter made programs that can find and stop him? True, he was mainly aiming to destory the Super Computer, but in the grand sceam of things it would have made much more sense sense outside of Aelita the other Lyoko Warriors barely know how to virtualize themselves. (Not to mention how much a massive blow it would have been to their moral...)

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* Here's a better headscratcher in relation to the above one. XANA has hijacked a jet that has Jeremie in it, and it's been stated several times tha that RTTP can't bring anyone back to life if they're killed. Why the hell didn't XANA just crash the jet as soon as he took control of it, effectively killing the only person who really knows how to use the Super Computer, as well as the guy who latter made programs that can find and stop him? True, he was mainly aiming to destory destroy the Super Computer, but in the grand sceam scheme of things it would have made much more sense sense since outside of Aelita the other Lyoko Warriors barely know how to virtualize themselves. (Not to mention how much a massive blow it would have been to their moral...)



*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
* Why did they the Return To The Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.

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*** As much as that is true and I believe it, Code Lyoko has already gone beyond the boundaries of XANA being just a computer program by making him powerful enough to easily do supernatural things. I don't think that smoke was symbolic, because as soon as Jeremie says that XANA escaped, the episode cuts to the scene of the outside of the factory with this black figure going into the sky. That has to be XANA. There is no reason for that to be symbolic, because this scenery directly follows Jeremie's statement. Spectres are stated to be an extension of his conscious, so that's probably a piece of him possessing something(in Season 1) or someone(Season 2 and onward). When XANA performs his possession, the spectre enters the target and when the tower responsible for XANA possesing possessing someone is deactivated, the spectre leaves the target. I'm pretty sure it's XANA's true form. In the episode "Fight to the Finish", as XANA was dying, he was forced out of William's body. XANA, in his Voice of the Legion voice, was in pain as Jeremie's program was killing him. We have even see the figure putting its "arms" on its ears, and a face with a gaping open mouth in agony, before it disappeared.
* Why did they the Return To The Past Program when there was no real damage by XANA that wasn't major and couldn't be attributed to hardware failure and the like and there was no danger to the status quo? One episode even '''''started''''' with the Lyoko warriors fighting XANA's minions immediately followed by them returning to the past without even showing what XANA did in the real world.world.

* A little nitpicky but this one has bugged me for a while. Ulrich and Yumi both use skateboards to get to and from the factory, meaning they have decent balance plus both of them do martial arts, which generally improves balance in the long run. Both of them struggle mightily with Odd's Overboard. How? And before you excuse Yumi with "different body, different center of gravity", she has no other balance issues while in Odd's body so that can't be it.
9th Apr '16 10:34:50 PM XANA
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* If Antea was kidnapped before Franz Hopper decided to destroy Carthage why was she kidnapped? If she was kidnapped after he decided to destroy Carthage why did he want to destroy Carthage?
** Pre-Carthage: She found out the Obligatory Evil Secret of Carthage and was silenced by the guv'mint. Franz deserts the project and builds Lyoko and XANA to retaliate.
** Post-Carthage: He found out the Obligatory Evil Secret instead. Antea is kidnapped as retaliation.
** Joke Answer: The kidnapping was staged so Antea could leave the country and pursue her dream of being.... [[Series/DoctorWho a temp]].

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* If Antea Anthea was kidnapped before Franz Hopper decided to destroy Carthage why was she kidnapped? If she was kidnapped after he decided to destroy Carthage why did he want to destroy Carthage?
** Pre-Carthage: She found out the Obligatory Evil Secret of Carthage and was silenced by the guv'mint.government. Franz deserts the project and builds Lyoko and XANA to retaliate.
** Post-Carthage: He found out the Obligatory Evil Secret instead. Antea Anthea is kidnapped as retaliation.
** Joke Answer: The kidnapping was staged so Antea Anthea could leave the country and pursue her dream of being.... [[Series/DoctorWho a temp]].



*** Or more likely, XANA had been in control of William for such a long time that he could use a "backdoor entry" (to keep with computer analogies) to his mind, able to circumvent the usual immunity of the Lyoko Warriors to specter possession. At least that's how I perceived the event.

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*** Or more likely, XANA had been in control of William for such a long time that he could use a "backdoor entry" entrance" (to keep with computer analogies) to his mind, able to circumvent the usual immunity of the Lyoko Warriors to specter possession. At least that's how I perceived the event.
15th Jan '16 6:21:05 AM Anddrix
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** Because the companies [[ViewersAreMorons think that American viewers can't relate to foreign characters.]]

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** Because the companies [[ViewersAreMorons think that American viewers can't relate to foreign characters.]]
16th Dec '15 5:34:14 PM Ramidel
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*** Just because he can understand human motivations, and even feign them through polymorphic clones, doesn't mean that ''he'' has motivations that will make sense to humanity.
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