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--> '''Professor Plum:''' I surmise that Miss Scarlet killed Mr. Boddy in the Ballroom with the Knife, since nobody saw anyone else in the ballroom, the knife is missing, and everyone else is accounted for... By the way, I know for a fact that I was not the one who killed him, and that he wasn't killed with the knife in the kitchen. [[LogicalFallacy I saw myself not killing him there all evening]], see, [[BreakingTheFourthWall I've got a card with my face on that proves it]].

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--> '''Professor Plum:''' I surmise that Miss Scarlet killed Mr. Boddy in the Ballroom with the Knife, since nobody saw anyone else in the ballroom, the knife is missing, and everyone else is accounted for... By the way, I know for a fact that I was not the one who killed him, and that he wasn't killed with the knife in the kitchen. [[LogicalFallacy [[UsefulNotes/LogicalFallacies I saw myself not killing him there all evening]], see, [[BreakingTheFourthWall I've got a card with my face on that proves it]].
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** Actually I think the possibility Yvette knew Mrs. White killed her husband is pretty good, considering she was sleeping with the man. All she had to do was be coming over for a liaison (or already there for one and hiding in the next room) to see/hear the murder. Or she could simply have suspected it, and after informing Boddy he did some investigating on his own and found the proof. As for Green, the fact Wadsworth showed no surprise when the evangelist shows up at the door suggests he'd been told the man would appear because he was Green's informant. [[spoiler:Considering the evangelist was actually Green's boss, he'd be in a great position to know if he was gay, or claim he did.]] In the ending where Wadsworth is the FBI agent, I guess we have to assume [[spoiler:the evangelist, Wadsworth's boss, just happened to also be Green's informant]], unless there was a State Department official who informed off-screen whom Wadsworth never invited. Maybe because he didn't consider [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Green's crime]] [[FairForItsDay worth putting him away for]]?

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** Actually I think the possibility Yvette knew Mrs. White killed her husband is pretty good, considering she was sleeping with the man. All she had to do was be coming over for a liaison (or already there for one and hiding in the next room) to see/hear the murder. Or she could simply have suspected it, and after informing Boddy he did some investigating on his own and found the proof. As for Green, the fact Wadsworth showed no surprise when the evangelist shows up at the door suggests he'd been told the man would appear because he was Green's informant. [[spoiler:Considering the evangelist was actually Green's boss, he'd be in a great position to know if he was gay, or claim he did.]] In the ending where Wadsworth is the FBI agent, I guess we have to assume [[spoiler:the evangelist, Wadsworth's boss, just happened to also be Green's informant]], unless there was a State Department official who informed off-screen whom Wadsworth never invited. Maybe because he didn't consider [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Green's crime]] crime [[FairForItsDay worth putting him away for]]?
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*** Why couldn’t they just stick to Orchid permanently.

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*** Why couldn’t they just stick to Orchid permanently.permanently?

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* Why in the 2023 [[TheBusCameBack back to Chef White]] instead of Chef Orchid?

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* Why in the 2023 [[TheBusCameBack back to Chef White]] in the 2023 instead of Chef Orchid?


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** Yvette probably was the one who told Mr. Boddy about Mrs. White murdering her second husband. She could have witnessed the crime either while on her way to sleep with the second husband or while hiding in another room during the fatal confrontation; or she could have merely informed Mr. Boddy that she suspected Mrs. White and he found out on his own. As for Mr. Green, if he was an undercover FBI agent, the information was deliberately leaked to Mr. Boddy. If he really was gay, maybe after leaving Mr. Mustard, the Motorist became a driver for the State Department and was Mr. Green’s driver.
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** Mrs. White was a chef in several versions of the game. Dr. Orchid was a botanist. Although it’s possible to have chefs be herbalists, just not too likely.
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*** The answer to all of these plot holes: [[MemeticMutation/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi small bombs.]] In all seriousness, though, UnreliableNarrator might fit a bit better for some of them.

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*** The answer to all of these plot holes: [[MemeticMutation/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi [[Memes/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi small bombs.]] In all seriousness, though, UnreliableNarrator might fit a bit better for some of them.
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*** Also, I would have to look again very closely to be sure but it is possible Wadsworth left the key in the library door--if not the first time, then when they split up to search again.

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*** Also, I would have to look again very closely to be sure but it is possible Wadsworth left the key in the library door--if not the first time, then when they split up to search again. EDIT: According to the John Hatch book mentioned below, Wadsworth does indeed leave the key in the library door; the author mentions "audiences are left to spot it on their own", so presumably it can be seen on a larger screen/clear Blu-ray image.
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*** The 2023 behind-the-scenes book ''What Do You Mean, Murder?'' by John Hatch may shed light on this: the original script called for scenes where the Motorist is seen driving through the storm, nearly goes off the road thanks to an unexpected tight curve, and then does crash in order to avoid hitting a stray cat, leaving his car in the position it's seen in in the finished film. The scenes were filmed, but eventually cut to keep from breaking the tension by undercutting the focus on events at Hill House. So presumably when the Motorist says his vehicle "broke down" he was simplifying, or else after he ended up hanging over the embankment, the engine actually did stall/the wheels were caught in the mud or were elevated too high to reach the road, and so he could honestly say it was broken down after his accident. Either way, the discrepancy is at least partly due to the deleted scenes.




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** Follow-up: the John Hatch book mentioned above also reiterates that the Lounge was originally meant to have its lights off--as in the {{Novelization}}, the original plan was for someone else to unknowingly be in the room with them, who would knock the flashlight away after they discovered/tripped over the Motorist's body in the dark, followed by a brief scuffle before they started screaming about being trapped with the murderer. Once it was realized that this wouldn't work for the endings where one of them was the murderer, the script was changed to what appears in the finished film. So presumably them acting as if they can't see the Motorist is an artifact of the scene originally supposed to have been in the dark, and one of the above explanations must be applied.
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*** Not just that, but it easily could be that the death of his wife made him not only want to deal with Boddy, but to save other people in similar situations, so he joined up with the FBI to help hunt down and stop people like Mr. Boddy as a career. It's not exactly uncommon, it's cliche even, for someone who loses their family to crime to take up crime-fighting or something similar.
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*** This troper remembers a commercial for the board game in the 90s where everyone's debating the evidence around Mr. Boddy's... body. An argument breaks out about the murder weapon, which ends when Mr. Boddy's... body reaches up and points at the knife, ''which is still jammed in his back''.
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* There is a fire burning in the study fireplace all through the evening -- that's where the murderer destroyed the evidence. But when Mr Boddy turns the lights off, the room is plunged into utter darkness. How does the light switch extinguish and relight the fire?
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* Why in the 2023 [[TheBusCameBack back to Chef White]] instead of Chef Orchid?

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