History Headscratchers / CivilWar

10th Dec '15 8:20:31 PM tomandtish
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**** The website Law and the Multiverse has a good article on this, and points out that technically it is almost impossible for the law to be in effect the day it is enacted, since the mechanism for registration isn't even there. So even after it became law, there should have been (in theory) a grace period. http://lawandthemultiverse.com/2011/05/02/marvel-civil-war-ii-deadlines-and-due-process/
10th Dec '15 8:12:17 PM tomandtish
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*** Yes. To use your analogy: I tell you I'm having trouble catching my breath, so you (an alleged Dr) hold me down, put a hole in my neck and stick a tube in to help me breathe, causing me to die. Your intentions may have been good, but your logic and planning is lousy. And they didn't even really have the benefit of good intentions because they were doing it for ratings.
10th Dec '15 8:06:48 PM tomandtish
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**** There's also some subtle manipulation by Tony of how Peter owes him for taking care of him, MJ, and May at Avenger's tower, and and implication that it could end.
4th Nov '15 4:58:53 AM SetsunasaNiWa
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cleaning Captain Obvious trope sinkhole use, project thread here
*** For the umpteenth time, different universe. Different technology. Different laws. Hell, different ''country'' (the 616 USA is clearly different in many ways from our USA). You cannot apply the exact same standards of our reality to a vastly different reality. If you're saying that a masked man would never be able to give sworn testimony in the ''real'' world, I agree. But ''[[CaptainObvious the 616 universe isn't the real world]]''. That's really all there is to it. It's not our universe. Things obviously work different there.
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*** For the umpteenth time, different universe. Different technology. Different laws. Hell, different ''country'' (the 616 USA is clearly different in many ways from our USA). You cannot apply the exact same standards of our reality to a vastly different reality. If you're saying that a masked man would never be able to give sworn testimony in the ''real'' world, I agree. But ''[[CaptainObvious the ''the 616 universe isn't the real world]]''.world''. That's really all there is to it. It's not our universe. Things obviously work different there.
5th Oct '15 5:53:59 AM StFan
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** If they were under 18 he probably could have registered them without their consent, since they're not legal adults and he is their guardian. Though that doesn't explain the YoungAvengers...
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** If they were under 18 he probably could have registered them without their consent, since they're not legal adults and he is their guardian. Though that doesn't explain the YoungAvengers...ComicBook/YoungAvengers...

*** Personally, I see Tony opposing the idea of an SHRA in ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' as an AuthorsSavingThrow of sorts.
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*** Personally, I see Tony opposing the idea of an SHRA in ''WesternAnimation/AvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' ''WesternAnimation/TheAvengersEarthsMightiestHeroes'' as an AuthorsSavingThrow of sorts.

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30th Sep '15 5:38:42 AM jimyamato
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** Two Words. Dell Rusk. The freakin' Red Skull infiltrated the US Government and became Secretary of Defense. At that level, it is not a far leap to think he could access the identity list. In fact, it may be housed in his Department to begin with if it isn't in Homeland Security.
28th Sep '15 7:19:15 AM GrigorII
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** Good luck with that. Unfortunately for cap, the people genuinely thought that the registration act was the best thing (see the ending of the story). Resisting it just for the sake of being seen resisting it just [[NotHelpingYourCase does not help his case]]. If anything, the average joe will feel more enraged with him as the situation continues, not less.
27th Sep '15 9:01:00 AM LBHills
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** I'd go a step further and say you're reasoning from a flawed premise with this "guerilla group" theory. Re-examine Cap's dispute with the Punisher, who clearly ''did'' think they were now at war with the US. Captain America's concept of resistance was geared more toward the 'nonviolent resistance' model (nonviolent toward the pro-reg forces, that is, not toward supervillains): the key there is not to escape being 'slowly captured one by one', but to be ''seen'' resisting, refusing to give up their principles, to remind the public that ''they'' used to think freedom was a principle. I know that's not as dramatic as this Islamic State parallel you've dreamed up that culminates in Emperor America, but it seems quite in character for Cap to have faith that people would eventually realize the whole thing was a mistake.
3rd Sep '15 1:03:08 AM Warwolf
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*** In point of fact, all of the villains had outstanding warrants for their arrest, so yes, they could indeed be arrested since they were on the run from the law. Something they even mention when they realize they've been spotted by the New Warriors.
3rd Sep '15 12:59:08 AM Warwolf
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** Justified in-universe by the fact that Nitro was, at ''best'', a d-list villain up until that point and nobody knew he was hopped up on a power enhancing drug. The Thing took Nitro out easily on his own in the same story that revealed that Ben was Jewish. He basically had the explosive power of about twenty hand grenades going off simultaneously. Admittedly, that's still somewhat powerful, depending on who he was paired up against, but it was nowhere near what he pulled in Stamford, and again, nobody knew he was on that drug. Namorita probably thought that by trying to wedge him into that school bus, she was limiting the amount of damage or potential injuries or fatalities he could inflict to an absolute minimum.
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** Justified in-universe by the fact that Nitro was, at ''best'', a d-list villain up until that point and nobody knew he was hopped up on a power enhancing drug. The Thing took Nitro out easily on his own in the same story that revealed that Ben was Jewish. He basically had the explosive power of about twenty an early model hand grenades going off simultaneously. grenade, and that's at his most powerful. Admittedly, that's still somewhat powerful, powerful in terms of explosives, depending on who he was paired up against, but it was nowhere near what he pulled in Stamford, and again, nobody knew he was on that drug. Namorita probably thought that by trying to wedge him into that school bus, she was limiting the amount of damage or potential injuries or fatalities he could inflict to an absolute minimum.
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