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21st Oct '15 4:15:26 AM ergeis
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** And for that matter, what does it actually mean?
27th Mar '15 6:47:27 PM emmyrider
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** That's simply because the series takes place in Shibuya, which is known for its large crosswalk.
28th Nov '13 12:58:09 AM JackTheHammer
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* Ayase refers to the gigolomaniacs as “the seven black knights”, and says they must stop “the demon/devil king Gladiale” (possibly Norose) as well as claiming the necessity of overcoming divine punishment to obtain a di-sword. What’s with this religious fanatiscism? This is especially frustrating since I can’t seem to find anything online about “Glaidiale”. Is it true that her songs written under the name of FES predict the new gen murders?
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* Ayase refers to the gigolomaniacs as “the seven black knights”, and says they must stop “the demon/devil king Gladiale” (possibly Norose) as well as claiming the necessity of overcoming divine punishment to obtain a di-sword. What’s with this religious fanatiscism? fanaticism? This is especially frustrating since I can’t seem to find anything online about “Glaidiale”. Is it true that her songs written under the name of FES predict the new gen murders? ** Seems to be a funny case of AccidentallyAccurate. Everything Ayase says is [[CloudCuckooLander complete nonsense]]; it just happens to match up pretty well with the rest of the plot.
27th Nov '13 12:20:04 PM ReaperReaper
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* Norose is seen talking in an office at the end of episode 8. It seems like he’s talking to someone, but I can’t see anyone in the room.\\
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* Norose is seen talking in an office at the end of episode 8. It seems like he’s talking to someone, but I can’t see anyone in the room.\\ room. ** It's [[spoiler: Nanami, crucified upon Norose's Di-Sword.]]
23rd Nov '13 11:04:04 AM ReaperReaper
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** [[spoiler: The image sent by Shogun (The General) was likely forged by Shogun's own delusions, in a similar fashion to the Group Diving video which was forged by a different party. He may have had prior knowledge of the incident, including Takumi's "involvement" in it, so he was capable of roughly replicating it before it was actually carried out.]]
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** [[spoiler: The image sent by Shogun (The General) was likely forged by Shogun's own delusions, in a similar fashion to the Group Diving video which was forged by a different party. He may have had prior knowledge of the incident, including Takumi's "involvement" in it, so he was capable of roughly replicating it before it was actually carried out. And it's unlikely that the delusional Takumi could have just walked into a room in the @Cafe to find the original; later in the story, it's seen that Shogun is hiding in an artificially created hospital wing inaccessible to most people, so it's not unthinkable that he went through the same precautions here.]]
23rd Nov '13 10:57:07 AM ReaperReaper
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Explaining some stuff about a work I love.
* Why doesn’t Takumi recognize Rimi when they meet in school in the first or second episode, when she claims that the two are best friends?\\ * The general is [[spoiler:really the original Takumi who has grown old from using his powers too much.]] If he is really living in the same city as Takumi, then they both exist at the same time. So how in the world was he able to send Takumi a picture of the first new gen murder the day before it occurred? And if they do exist at the same time, could [[spoiler:the illusion have just walked into the room accidentally and discovered his original self?]]\\ * We learn Takumi's identity when he tries to find his parents’ house, and discovers only an empty lot. The thing is, this doesn't apply to his sister Nanami, and she has already mentioned their father in the first episode. She also probably lives with her parents, and, since [[spoiler:Takumi is a delusion of the original]], shouldn’t he know where to find his parents’ house as well?\\ * How was [[spoiler:delusion Takumi created? One day the original thought, “make an exact duplicate of me”?]] In fact, if episode 1 starts off shortly after that happened, this could explain why he doesn’t recognize Rimi. Although he seemed like he was pretty familiar with everything else in his life.\\ * If [[spoiler:the original Takumi aged rapidly at 16 or 17 (before the start of the anime)]], his classmates must have noticed his sudden disappearance or change. Then Takumi is introduced at the start of the anime and no one questions why he’s so different. However, this seems to be HandWaved, since almost no one pays attention to Takumi at his school.\\
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* Why doesn’t Takumi recognize Rimi when they meet in school in the first or second episode, when she claims that the two are best friends?\\ friends? ** [[spoiler:They've never actually met before. Rimi, with her Di-Sword, created a setting where she's friends and classmates with Takumi, in accordance to her plan.]] * The general is [[spoiler:really the original Takumi who has grown old from using his powers too much.]] If he is really living in the same city as Takumi, then they both exist at the same time. So how in the world was he able to send Takumi a picture of the first new gen murder the day before it occurred? And if they do exist at the same time, could [[spoiler:the illusion have just walked into the room accidentally and discovered his original self?]]\\ self?]] ** [[spoiler: The image sent by Shogun (The General) was likely forged by Shogun's own delusions, in a similar fashion to the Group Diving video which was forged by a different party. He may have had prior knowledge of the incident, including Takumi's "involvement" in it, so he was capable of roughly replicating it before it was actually carried out.]] * We learn Takumi's identity when he tries to find his parents’ house, and discovers only an empty lot. The thing is, this doesn't apply to his sister Nanami, and she has already mentioned their father in the first episode. She also probably lives with her parents, and, since [[spoiler:Takumi is a delusion of the original]], shouldn’t he know where to find his parents’ house as well?\\ well? ** [[spoiler: Takumi's knowledge of his parents' house's location is artificial, as he was never intended to visit it. Presumably this doesn't apply to Nanami.]] * How was [[spoiler:delusion Takumi created? One day the original thought, “make an exact duplicate of me”?]] In fact, if episode 1 starts off shortly after that happened, this could explain why he doesn’t recognize Rimi. Although he seemed like he was pretty familiar with everything else in his life.\\ life. ** [[spoiler: He was created in a similar fashion to every delusion in the story; inserting a false image into a dead spot via a Di-Sword and turning into reality by having it achieve local shared recognition. Naturally, creating a human being is more difficult than most delusions, and as a result the original Takumi was sent into a coma for a while, and the resulting human being was a feeble Otaku. The first episode takes place approximately a year after the delusional Takumi's creation. ]] * If [[spoiler:the original Takumi aged rapidly at 16 or 17 (before the start of the anime)]], his classmates must have noticed his sudden disappearance or change. Then Takumi is introduced at the start of the anime and no one questions why he’s so different. However, this seems to be HandWaved, since almost no one pays attention to Takumi at his school.\\ school. ** [[spoiler: With the creation of the fake Nishijou Takumi, his direct environment was also adjusted. The classmates are lead to believe the fake Takumi was the one that was always there, and their recollection of him before his "creation" is vague and blurry.]]

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** There was only one porter in the scene - the stout man that Sena cut down. The rest of the crowd were civilians under the porter's control.

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** She had little hope remaining that Nozomi's schemes can be stopped, or she expected Takumi to be there in order to save her (and consequently restoring her faith).

* In episode 10, Yua is seen climbing up the stairs to the rooftop of the hospital, where she encounters her sister Mia, [[spoiler:who apparently died in the group dive, the first of the new gen murders.]] After a MindScrew conversation which causes Yua to break down, she gets her di-sword, hitting Mia, Revealing [[spoiler:Mia was a porter. The man says something like, “they never told me she was a gigalmaniac” and runs off. So all this was a ploy of some sort, but who sent the porter and for what reason?]] What caused Mia and the others to commit suicide? What was she saying about how Yua was the one who jumped and Mia is the one who lives? (Although this just seemed like a lie told to screw with Yua.)\\
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* In episode 10, Yua is seen climbing up the stairs to the rooftop of the hospital, where she encounters her sister Mia, [[spoiler:who apparently died in the group dive, the first of the new gen murders.]] After a MindScrew conversation which causes Yua to break down, she gets her di-sword, hitting Mia, Revealing [[spoiler:Mia was a porter. The man says something like, “they never told me she was a gigalmaniac” and runs off. So all this was a ploy of some sort, but who sent the porter and for what reason?]] What caused Mia and the others to commit suicide? What was she saying about how Yua was the one who jumped and Mia is the one who lives? (Although this just seemed like a lie told to screw with Yua.)\\ ) ** The porter was likely sent there by the higher-ups to cover for [[spoiler: Ban being murdered right there]]. He doesn't know Yua personally, the porter did initiate the psychological attack but the resulting delusions themselves came from Yua's own heart. Mia and the others "committed suicide" as a result of an elaborate delusion carried out by [[spoiler:Suwa Mamoru. The twins indeed switch places shortly before the incident, meaning that the Yua seen throughout was actually Mia.]]

* When nanami is kidnapped in episode 10, how does Rimi know exactly where to find her, and why is she so intent on rescuing nanami when they have never met in the show? In fact, why did Norose kidnap Nanami in the first place?\\
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* When nanami is kidnapped in episode 10, how does Rimi know exactly where to find her, and why is she so intent on rescuing nanami when they have never met in the show? In fact, why did Norose kidnap Nanami in the first place?\\place?

* Rimi has an inner monologue type scene while rescuing Nanami. In her head, she thinks, “I am afraid of the dark”. There is then an image of NAKED, IDENTICAL CORPSES OF RIMI LYING DOWN IN A BLACK VOID. WHAT ON EARTH WAS GOING ON IN THAT SCENE?\\ * Nanami then seems to be affected by one of Norose’s delusions. She starts crying and asking Rimi about her bangle, something that Takumi gave her when he bought the fake di-sword. “Bangle! Give me my bangle Rimi! It’s the thing that my big brother gave to me! It’s precious to me!” again, WHAT ON EARTH WAS GOING ON IN THAT SCENE.\\
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* Rimi has an inner monologue type scene while rescuing Nanami. In her head, she thinks, “I am afraid of the dark”. There is then an image of NAKED, IDENTICAL CORPSES OF RIMI LYING DOWN IN A BLACK VOID. WHAT ON EARTH WAS GOING ON IN THAT SCENE?\\ SCENE? ** [[spoiler: Rimi was recalling the period in her life during which she was being tortured by the Nozomi group for her CODE sample. As if to escape from the grueling torment, Rimi's personalities / consciousnesses "committed suicide" one after the other, until the torture stopped and the current "personality" was there to stay. This is entirely a mental change, her actual body didn't multiply. The bodies shown in the scene are essentially a visual representation of what was happening.]] * Nanami then seems to be affected by one of Norose’s delusions. She starts crying and asking Rimi about her bangle, something that Takumi gave her when he bought the fake di-sword. “Bangle! Give me my bangle Rimi! It’s the thing that my big brother gave to me! It’s precious to me!” again, WHAT ON EARTH WAS GOING ON IN THAT SCENE.\\ SCENE. ** It's really just what it seems. Norose was driving Nanami to the brink of insanity, again to retrieve her CODE sample. [[spoiler: Her bangle, along with the hand it used to be attached to, was at the time in Shogun's custody. Her emotions of wanting it back were amplified by Norose.]]

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** [[spoiler: An internal psychological torture of some sort, likely relating to her hand and her bangle, see above.]]

* In episode 8, we learn about Kozue’s past. [[spoiler:Kozue was group stalked by people holding up mirrors and chanting “who are you”.]] Why does Genichi Norose seem to know about this event?\\
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* In episode 8, we learn about Kozue’s past. [[spoiler:Kozue was group stalked by people holding up mirrors and chanting “who are you”.]] Why does Genichi Norose seem to know about this event?\\ event? ** [[spoiler: The group stalking was meant to make her awaken as a giga-lo-maniac, and then have her CODE sample retrieved by Norose to strengthen Noah II. The latter wasn't successfully accomplished.]]

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** [[spoiler: The events surrounding Sena's mother were part of an experiment by Nozomi meant to test Noah II's capabilities of messing with a person's five senses. After enough data was collected, the experiment was called off, which resulted in a particularly horrifying scene involving Sena's mother and sister (which was removed from the anime adaptation), consequently being the trigger for Sena's awakening and hatred for Norose, as well as her father, who was a scientist involved in the experiment.]]

* In the same episode, we learn that Ayase was [[spoiler:put under some kind of torture to get her di-sword and it seemed to have happened in some kind of facility.]] This troper believes it was Norose who was responsible, because he also seemed to have a hand in the other girls getting their di-swords. So how on earth was he able to get away with torturing 6 girls like that? And how do gigalomaniac abilities work, anyway? It seems like all a person needs to do to get a di-sword is go through some kind of emotional ordeal, but it also seemed like only certain people have the ability to get one.\\ * So many questions about Rimi. When she goes to [[spoiler:rescue Nanami from Norose]], in her head, she thinks, “I am afraid of the dark”. There is then an image of NAKED, IDENTICAL CORPSES OF RIMI LYING DOWN IN A BLACK VOID. Where did that even come from? Although this may be completely YMMV, this troper thought maybe Rimi was a clone, or had been experimented on. To further this theory, there is a scene in episode 11 where Rimi is talking to Takumi, and it looks like they’re standing on the water’s surface underneath the sky. Rimi has never even seen the sky, and seems like she doesn’t know much about the world. These scenes made it seem like Rimi had some kind of awful past, but I’m nit sure what. \\
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* In the same episode, we learn that Ayase was [[spoiler:put under some kind of torture to get her di-sword and it seemed to have happened in some kind of facility.]] This troper believes it was Norose who was responsible, because he also seemed to have a hand in the other girls getting their di-swords. So how on earth was he able to get away with torturing 6 girls like that? And how do gigalomaniac abilities work, anyway? It seems like all a person needs to do to get a di-sword is go through some kind of emotional ordeal, but it also seemed like only certain people have the ability to get one.\\ one. ** [[spoiler: Norose believes that his actions are done for the greater good of mankind, and argues that a few sacrifices are necessary in the long run. It doesn't help that he has control over the media and hospitals, meaning his abuse of young girls would never reach the public. And not everyone are born with the potential to become a giga-lo-maniac, but the ones that are need emotional trauma as their trigger to awaken.]] * So many questions about Rimi. When she goes to [[spoiler:rescue Nanami from Norose]], in her head, she thinks, “I am afraid of the dark”. There is then an image of NAKED, IDENTICAL CORPSES OF RIMI LYING DOWN IN A BLACK VOID. Where did that even come from? Although this may be completely YMMV, this troper thought maybe Rimi was a clone, or had been experimented on. To further this theory, there is a scene in episode 11 where Rimi is talking to Takumi, and it looks like they’re standing on the water’s surface underneath the sky. Rimi has never even seen the sky, and seems like she doesn’t know much about the world. These scenes made it seem like Rimi had some kind of awful past, but I’m nit sure what. \\ what. ** Explained a while above.
23rd Oct '13 1:53:02 PM Mithgol
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Sh­ōgun's.
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23rd Oct '13 1:50:29 PM Mithgol
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Megalomaniac ×1024.
* The di-swords are awesome weapons, but do they have any inspiration behind their designs?\\ * Where does the name “Gigalomaniac” come from?\
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* The di-swords are awesome weapons, but do they have any inspiration behind their designs?\\ designs? * Where does the name “Gigalomaniac” come from?\ from? ** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomaniac Megalomaniac]] ×1024.

[[folder:Other]]\ * Why do all the girls appear with angel wings during the ending credits?\\ * Why do Takumi and the girls appear standing on a crosswalk at the end of the opening and ending themes?\\
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[[folder:Other]]\ [[folder:Other]] * Why do all the girls appear with angel wings during the ending credits?\\ credits? * Why do Takumi and the girls appear standing on a crosswalk at the end of the opening and ending themes?\\ themes?

** This is the female police officer who helped Ban with his investigation. He is seen talking to her about GE rates and the Meiwa party a few times\\ * What was the point of the Gero Kaerun dolls (Hoppy the frog in the English dub)? They were seen several times (Kozue had a GK band aid, Yua and Nanami liked them, and Ban even investigates them in a store at one point. He asks a lot of questions about them, and they seem to hold some kind of significance to the plot, but I can’t figure out what that might be. \\
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** This is the female police officer who helped Ban with his investigation. He is seen talking to her about GE rates and the Meiwa party a few times\\ times * What was the point of the Gero Kaerun dolls (Hoppy the frog in the English dub)? They were seen several times (Kozue had a GK band aid, Yua and Nanami liked them, and Ban even investigates them in a store at one point. He asks a lot of questions about them, and they seem to hold some kind of significance to the plot, but I can’t figure out what that might be. \\
18th Aug '13 11:43:02 AM DiplomatfromPluto
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** Are you talking about the guy in white with the white beard? Because he is [[spoiler: the leader of the Church of Divine Light]]
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** Are you talking about the guy in white with the white beard? Because he is [[spoiler: the leader of the Church of Divine Light]] Light]]\\ That's exactly who I was talking about.
10th Aug '13 9:31:02 AM tanasinn
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* Detective Yasuji Ban and his assistant Suwa have been mentioned on this website’s page for this series. But no where have I seen a mention of Ban’s partner, who I think is named Momose. Does she even do anything in the anime?\\
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* Detective Yasuji Ban and his assistant Suwa have been mentioned on this website’s page for this series. But no where have I seen a mention of Ban’s partner, who I think is named Momose. Does she even do anything in the anime?\\ anime? **This is the female police officer who helped Ban with his investigation. He is seen talking to her about GE rates and the Meiwa party a few times\\
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