History Headscratchers / BurnNotice

18th Mar '16 12:14:16 PM SeanRenaud
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** They probably also get a lot more work than we ever see on the show. It's quite common for one of the team to mention that they are already working on something can either can't help Micheal right then or could really use him to speed things up so they can help him with his problem. This is never treated as surprising so much as inconvenient so they probably all do it all the time and it's just not shown because those are cases where everything goes completely according to plan and nothing moves the primary plot forward. For every time Mike gets tangled up with the top drug dealer/gangster/corrupt cop in Miami there have to be a dozen times he has to deal with some random punk.
18th Mar '16 10:00:35 AM ObsidianFire
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** Michael is a professional spy it does seem jarring that he would take things at face value that Larry died just because Fiona '''thought''' she killed him, Fiona has been wrong in the past, especially since he seems very GenreSavvy in about everything else. I hope that this comes back to bite him in the ass just so Michael will learn from his mistake.

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** Michael is a professional spy it does seem jarring that he would take things at face value that Larry died just because Fiona '''thought''' she killed him, Fiona has been wrong in the past, especially since he seems very GenreSavvy smart in about everything else. I hope that this comes back to bite him in the ass just so Michael will learn from his mistake.
13th Jun '15 6:09:32 AM ErikModi
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*** There's probably some invocation there. After all, if FIONA is objecting to something being too shady, it must be pretty damn bad, given all the shady things she has absolutely no problem with.
18th May '15 7:07:37 PM 3dgar01
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* Why is it that all the operations take place in the morning. It seems every time Michael or anyone else does something illegal they do it in the morning. The only time they are out at night is night (bar some very rare incidents) is when visiting a nightclub. Its like the only do things at night when it is absolutely necessary. Yeah shooting in the morning makes things easier to see but one would think a professional wouldn't perform a hit on someone in broad daylight.

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* Why is it that all the operations take place in the morning. It seems every time Michael or anyone else does something illegal they do it in the morning. The only time they are out at night is night (bar night(bar some very rare incidents) is when visiting a nightclub. Its like the only do things at night when it is absolutely necessary. Yeah shooting in the morning makes things easier to see but one would think a professional wouldn't perform a hit on someone in broad daylight.
18th May '15 7:06:37 PM 3dgar01
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* At the end of Season 3, Mike realises that Simon intends to kill "Management" because "there was only one Helipad he could land at" (or something like that). Even if you accept that was true (which seems unlikely, but I can swallow that) doesn't it seem remarkably unlikely that Management would take such a risky trip? When I first saw the episode I was convinced it was all a ploy by Management to recruit Mike, ''particularly'' when he steps in to prevent Mike from killing Simon as it seemed the two had cooked up the plan together and killing his own man would be counterproductive. But it seems that no, the hit was absolutely genuine and they weren't working together. Are we meant to ascribe this as a weird coincidence or is it a dangling plot thread?

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* At the end of Season 3, Mike realises that Simon intends to kill "Management" because "there was only one Helipad he could land at" (or something like that). Even if you accept that was true (which seems unlikely, but I can swallow that) doesn't it seem remarkably unlikely that Management would take such a risky trip? When I first saw the episode I was convinced it was all a ploy by Management to recruit Mike, ''particularly'' when he steps in to prevent Mike from killing Simon as it seemed the two had cooked up the plan together and killing his own man would be counterproductive. But it seems that no, the hit was absolutely genuine and they weren't working together. Are we meant to ascribe this as a weird coincidence or is it a dangling plot thread?thread?

*Why is it that all the operations take place in the morning. It seems every time Michael or anyone else does something illegal they do it in the morning. The only time they are out at night is night (bar some very rare incidents) is when visiting a nightclub. Its like the only do things at night when it is absolutely necessary. Yeah shooting in the morning makes things easier to see but one would think a professional wouldn't perform a hit on someone in broad daylight.
13th May '15 1:12:59 PM PaladinPhoenix
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** Willing to kill =/= willing to be a hired assassin.

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** Willing to kill =/= willing to be a hired assassin.
assassin. Michael only takes jobs where he can help the good guys against the bad guys, or the not-so-bad guys against the ''really'' bad guys. He's selective, and that narrows his employment options.
** To add to that, Michael and company never seem to actually have money issues. He's still dressing in very nice suits, they have access to all kinds of black market weapons and gear, not to mention the nice cars, and they never seem to be worried about making rent in a city known for excessively high living costs. They take jobs to get money to finance something ''really'' expensive, or when they need lots of cash quickly, or to advance their own agendas by helping someone and getting their help in return. The first episode is really the only episode in which Mike is strapped for cash. After that, they're always in financially good shape.
13th May '15 1:05:20 PM PaladinPhoenix
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** Laws do exist that say an agent of the government is restricted in what they can do while undercover, such as preventing police officers from entrapping suspects, the clandestine services operate under a different set of rules entirely. The CIA, for example, has operated under an executive order forbidding assassination of foreign nationals for decades, but that doesn't mean they can't [[LoopholeAbuse hire someone to kill for them]]. Ultimately, the rules that agents operate under are different from the publicly known rules, and killing civilians might just be excusable if it's part of a greater operation or target. And there ''have'' been cases of people killing to establish or maintain their cover, so it's not all that farfetched.
22nd Mar '15 4:39:57 PM DavidTC
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** If we assume the show's universe matches real history, the IRA (Assuming we mean the Provisional IRA) had a ceasefire started in 1994 that lasted for two years, a short break in 1996 (Including a large bombing in Manchester, so, Fi?), and then a ceasefire until the Good Friday agreement, after which point attacks pretty much stopped. This works fine for Fi's involvement if we assume she's the same age as her actress (born 1970), she could lose her sister in 1990 or so, giving her enough time to join and learn bomb-making. But this causes some strange problems if this is where she met Michael, because it means all this happened over a decade ago. However, in 2004, the PIRA allegedly ''robbed a bank'' in Belfast, and it seems likely that this is what the show is alluding too. (Or a fictional robbery much like that one.) So, basically, when Michael was spying on the PIRA, it probably was in the early-to-mid 00s, around three years before the show, and they ''weren't'' blowing things up at the time. In fact, in 2005, the PIRA would supposedly decommission all its arms...which raises several interesting ideas about how she became an arms dealer. Selling their weapons? Procuring them new weapons?
22nd Mar '15 3:49:17 PM DavidTC
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** Except that Anson was part of the same organization that Michael had just proven existed, and spent months taking down, and consisted of all sorts of random people in the government. The same organization that Michael had been insisting still had a loose thread to Max. Claiming your local supermarket cashier is the last cartel drug dealer, attempting to extort you into working for them, to a person that knows you ''have just spent months helping take down that very drug cartel which was full of members disguised as cashiers'' is fairly believable.
** The only actual plausible explanation is that, even if he thought the CIA would believe him, he didn't think the British would go along it, and would go after Fi regardless of what the CIA said. But that just means he should tell Pearce ''in secret''. Technically, he could be worried about that fact leaking back to Anson before he can clear her name in a manner the British would believe, but that rather contradicts the entire premise of the organization being 99% gone.
22nd Mar '15 3:24:05 PM DavidTC
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** 'Does a black list on "every government agency known to Man" require by law that no one use Michael's services?' The answer to this is, indeed, 'Yes'. 100% yes. That is what a burn notice is. And it probably would stop private intelligence companies that want US contracts from hiring him also. Although only the ''intelligence community'' cares about them, as was mentioned when he works with the DEA in an early season.
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