Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** My take was, consciously or otherwise, the gang were telling *themselves* that Buffy went to Hell (or a hell dimension or whathaveyou so that they could believe the resurrection was as much a ‘rescue’ from eternal torment for Buffy. That is, they didn’t want to acknowledge the possibility that resurrecting Buffy was about them, not her, and that they could be ripping her out of Paradise.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
dewicking disambiguation page
Changed line(s) 503 (click to see context) from:
** I know that I along with many fans were cheering Willow on in killing Jonathan and Andrew. That's like GoodIsNotSoft rule eight: they're evil, they're dangerous, stop them, cold if need be. That's on the one hand. On the other hand there was a line about killing in ''Film/BatmanForever'' about killing only makes the anger grow. Take into account the view of ThouShaltNotKillMuggles with the fear being addressed in both mediums being IfYouKillHimYouWillBecomeJustLikeHim (and if you like DoesntLikeGuns as well,) Series/{{Angel}} at times being almost a [[JustForPun Vampire Bat]] and the comics in particular having a thing for Batman (numerous references, a Batman style cover,) I don't know if Joss or the writers were taking their cues from Batman but it's perhaps another way to look at it.
to:
** I know that I along with many fans were cheering Willow on in killing Jonathan and Andrew. That's like GoodIsNotSoft rule eight: they're evil, they're dangerous, stop them, cold if need be. That's on the one hand. On the other hand there was a line about killing in ''Film/BatmanForever'' about killing only makes the anger grow. Take into account the view of ThouShaltNotKillMuggles with the fear being addressed in both mediums being IfYouKillHimYouWillBecomeJustLikeHim (and if you like DoesntLikeGuns as well,) Series/{{Angel}} at times being almost a [[JustForPun Vampire Bat]] Bat and the comics in particular having a thing for Batman (numerous references, a Batman style cover,) I don't know if Joss or the writers were taking their cues from Batman but it's perhaps another way to look at it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
[[folder: The Alternate Reality Theory]]
* Apparently, Joss Whedon left it up to the viewers to determine whether or not Buffy's mental asylum universe was the real one. But if it was, how do you explain the Angel spinoff? If Angel only existed in Buffy's mind, what about all of Angel's adventures in LA that Buffy was not at all involved with?
[[/folder]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* It is a vast oversimplification of what the actual Christianity says about voluntary deaths. Suicide is a mortal sin because ''it is selfish and against God's plan for the man''. It's totally different when you ''sacrifice'' your life: ''Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends'' (John 15:13). Don't forget that almost all the first Christian saints were martyrs - that is, people who willingly decided to die, even if technically not by their own hand. In this context, Buffy might well have gone to the "normal" Heaven, without us having to make allowances for it being wholly different in Buffyverse.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 674,676 (click to see context) from:
[[folder: Dawn and Spike in Seeing Red]]
* Something that confused me is that Dawn gets on Spike's case about how he hurt Buffy in Entropy in this episode and makes it sound as though she thinks it was done on purpose. I'm really confused Spike and Anya didn't know that the Trio put cameras in the Magic Box, they clearly didn't want to be seen by anyone it was just for solace because they were both sad over their situations with Buffy and Xander. Also Buffy ended her weird pseudo-relationship with Spike and told him to move on and he was trying do that. If Buffy is sad and realized that her feelings go deeper than how she thought then that isn't Spike's fault. Also I get that Dawn probably doesn't know about all the workings of their relationship but even then, the fact that Buffy saw what happened with him and Anya and got her feelings hurt isn't his fault by any means.
** Dawn's sixteen and Buffy's her sister. Understandable that she wouldn't consider the facts rationally.
* Something that confused me is that Dawn gets on Spike's case about how he hurt Buffy in Entropy in this episode and makes it sound as though she thinks it was done on purpose. I'm really confused Spike and Anya didn't know that the Trio put cameras in the Magic Box, they clearly didn't want to be seen by anyone it was just for solace because they were both sad over their situations with Buffy and Xander. Also Buffy ended her weird pseudo-relationship with Spike and told him to move on and he was trying do that. If Buffy is sad and realized that her feelings go deeper than how she thought then that isn't Spike's fault. Also I get that Dawn probably doesn't know about all the workings of their relationship but even then, the fact that Buffy saw what happened with him and Anya and got her feelings hurt isn't his fault by any means.
** Dawn's sixteen and Buffy's her sister. Understandable that she wouldn't consider the facts rationally.
to:
[[folder: Dawn How did Willow and Spike in Tara not hear the shots]]
* In SeeingRed]]
* SomethingRed at the very end when Warren comes over to shoot Buffy, he fires the gun at least 3 times before he fires the errant shot that confused me is that Dawn gets on Spike's case about how he hurt Buffy in Entropy in this episode and makes it sound as though she thinks it was done on purpose. I'm really confused Spike and Anya didn't know that kills Tara. But if they/ heard the Trio put cameras in the Magic Box, they clearly didn't want to be seen by anyone it was just for solace because they were both sad over their situations with Buffy and Xander. Also Buffy ended her weird pseudo-relationship with Spike and told him to move on and he was trying do that. If Buffy is sad and realized that her feelings go deeper than how she thought then that isn't Spike's fault. Also I get that Dawn probably doesn't know about all the workings of their relationship but even then, the fact that Buffy saw what happened with him and Anya and got her feelings hurt isn't his fault by any means.
** Dawn's sixteen and Buffy's her sister. Understandable that sheshots wouldn't consider they have moved outside the facts rationally.house to see what was going on?
* In Seeing
* Something
** Dawn's sixteen and Buffy's her sister. Understandable that she
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** It also makes plenty of sense when viewed from the thematic lens of Buffy's depression - for Buffy, Sam Finn is a visible expression of the person who Buffy was, pre-depression. A message of sort of "hey, that used to be me, and I... actually MISS being me." Combine with the farewell conversation between Buffy and Riley, where he says that Buffy IS still herself... It's a bit of a wake-up call for Buffy that it is possible for her to heal from all the crap she's been going through this season.
