** [[MST3KMantra Honestly you are better of not trying to think about the original timeline.]] [[TimeyWimeyBall For all intents and purposes there is no original timeline.]] If there were a timeline with Five Heroes everything would have been so different that it is unlikely those events would create the Blazblue timeline that would lead to certain characters going back in time to create the history we know. For instance the supposed original timeline would not have the presence of Bloodedge, so humanity should have been wiped out before they perfected Ars Magus. If there is an original timeline Jubei would never have changed his name from Mitsuyoshi and Blood-Scythe would never have existed. Blazblue has a StableTimeLoop. Hakumen was always Jin from the future. Terumi left the Susanooh Unit ended before he possessed Kazuma so that would not affect the legend of the Six Heroes. Ragna got his sword and jacket from himself and Jubei changed his name in honor of a friend who knew him by a different name in the future. Time doesn’t move in a straight line. It doesn’t matter that Jin didn’t exist yet because he would exist since he has to go back in time to become Hakumen. The first timeline is merely the first loop that the Observers experienced but it was not independent of the effects of Ragna and Jin’s time travel, which was connected to but separate from the time loops.

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** YouCantThwartStageOne. And even if the two main villains are the only ones to achieve something, the main heroes ''also'' receive CharacterDevelopment that may be necessary to thwart Stage 2, such as Noel coming to terms to her own identity, and Jin actually attempting to do something heroic for once, instead of lusting over his dear BRRRROOOOTTTHHHEEERRR all the time. CS Extend, according to WordOfGod, is only halfway through the story, there's still plenty of time for thwarting their plans, and if CP is to go by, I think some of Hazama's plans would be falling apart thanks to [[spoiler:Caelica]], and what with [[spoiler:Jin succeeding in snapping Tsubaki out of her brainwashing and eventually setting her path to HeelFaceTurn, with her SuperMode to go]]. And Makoto's still out there to possibly ruin their plans, and the introduction of Kagura Mutsuki, described as a positive guy despite being the biggest badass of NOL. Just because Hazama and Relius have a high success rate in whatever they do, it doesn't mean you must lose hope... ''you mustn't''. Losing hope is like giving the victory ticket to them. If that still doesn't click you, just play BB for the awesome fighting mechanic.

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** YouCantThwartStageOne. And even if the two main villains are the only ones to achieve something, the main heroes ''also'' receive CharacterDevelopment that may be necessary to thwart Stage 2, such as Noel coming to terms to her own identity, and Jin actually attempting to do something heroic for once, instead of lusting over his dear BRRRROOOOTTTHHHEEERRR all the time. CS Extend, according to WordOfGod, is only halfway through the story, there's still plenty of time for thwarting their plans, and if CP is to go by, I think some of Hazama's plans would be falling apart thanks to [[spoiler:Caelica]], and what with [[spoiler:Jin succeeding in snapping Tsubaki out of her brainwashing and eventually setting her path to HeelFaceTurn, with her SuperMode to go]]. And Makoto's still out there to possibly ruin their plans, and the introduction of Kagura Mutsuki, described as a positive guy despite being the biggest badass of NOL. If that still doesn't click you, just play BB for the awesome fighting mechanic.

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* My question is, what's the point in playing the game? It just seems to me like a depressing exercise in [[ShoottheShaggyDog hopelessness]], where no one's actions mean anything except for the two main villains, who just keep making things suck more for everyone. Can someone convince me to play this game and have any hope in the story?
** YouCantThwartStageOne. And even if the two main villains are the only ones to achieve something, the main heroes ''also'' receive CharacterDevelopment that may be necessary to thwart Stage 2, such as Noel coming to terms to her own identity, and Jin actually attempting to do something heroic for once, instead of lusting over his dear BRRRROOOOTTTHHHEEERRR all the time. CS Extend, according to WordOfGod, is only halfway through the story, there's still plenty of time for thwarting their plans, and if CP is to go by, I think some of Hazama's plans would be falling apart thanks to [[spoiler:Caelica]], and what with [[spoiler:Jin succeeding in snapping Tsubaki out of her brainwashing and eventually setting her path to HeelFaceTurn, with her SuperMode to go]]. And Makoto's still out there to possibly ruin their plans, and the introduction of Kagura Mutsuki, described as a positive guy despite being the biggest badass of NOL. If that still doesn't click you, just play BB for the awesome fighting mechanic.

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