History Headscratchers / BladeRunner

29th Sep '16 5:37:35 AM Abberline1888
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** This is a world where Bryant can force Deckard our of retirement by saying, "You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!" It's possible that nobody but the police would interfere with a shooting, because the police themselves are not to be messed with and won't tolerate interference.

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** This is a world where Bryant can force Deckard our of retirement by saying, "You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!" It's possible that nobody but the police would interfere with a shooting, because the police themselves are not to be messed with and won't tolerate interference.interference.
* The biggest headscratcher about this film is why people insist that you see the Ultimate Final No This Time I Really Mean It Director's Cut in order to fully get how incredible and influential it is. After all, the original theatrical cut has to have been the one that influenced everyone and if that cut is shit and the Special Ultra Awesome Edition is the good version then that doesn't make any sense.
13th Mar '16 1:14:47 PM Borjigin
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*** Also, replicants only begin to SOMETIMES develop emotions towards the END of their lives. Any evidence of their inhumanity they witness before that likely is not stored in their long-term memories because it is utterly uninteresting. So the memories only need to fool them for a few months.
25th Jan '16 8:22:04 AM Bense
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* The public at large are unaware of the escaped replicants. Ok, sure, but why the hell does no one seem to care when Deckard guns one down in the street? Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but nobody seems to notice the armed man chasing down a half naked woman, shooting her three times, and sending her through four planes of glass. A few people examine her body, but nobody attempts to apprehend Deckard before he reveals his profession to the police.

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* The public at large are unaware of the escaped replicants. Ok, sure, but why the hell does no one seem to care when Deckard guns one down in the street? Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but nobody seems to notice the armed man chasing down a half naked woman, shooting her three times, and sending her through four planes of glass. A few people examine her body, but nobody attempts to apprehend Deckard before he reveals his profession to the police.police.
** This is a world where Bryant can force Deckard our of retirement by saying, "You know the score, pal. You're not cop, you're little people!" It's possible that nobody but the police would interfere with a shooting, because the police themselves are not to be messed with and won't tolerate interference.
18th Jan '16 6:46:56 PM n341100
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** The memory implants are not intended to fool everyone around the replicant into thinking it's a human, they're only intended to fool the replicant so that it will behave more like a human (and therefore be more predictable and controllable). With only a four-year lifespan its entirely possible the replicant won't find out or be convinced of the truth before it dies and you buy a new one to replace it.

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** The memory implants are not intended to fool everyone around the replicant into thinking it's a human, they're only intended to fool the replicant so that it will behave more like a human (and therefore be more predictable and controllable). With only a four-year lifespan its entirely possible the replicant won't find out or be convinced of the truth before it dies and you buy a new one to replace it.it.

* The public at large are unaware of the escaped replicants. Ok, sure, but why the hell does no one seem to care when Deckard guns one down in the street? Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but nobody seems to notice the armed man chasing down a half naked woman, shooting her three times, and sending her through four planes of glass. A few people examine her body, but nobody attempts to apprehend Deckard before he reveals his profession to the police.
24th Aug '15 8:57:07 AM Bense
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*** Deckard has to chase Zhora through crowds of people in downtown L.A., but other parts of the city at other times are nearly empty, like the Bradbury building, where J.F. is the only resident. The movie doesn't really show enough of the world to determine if it's overpopulated or underpopulated.
10th Aug '15 1:40:21 AM DoctorNemesis
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** [[Creator/IsaacAsimov "Just because you wrote it,]] [[DeathOfTheAuthor what makes you think you have the slightest idea what it's about?"]]
4th Aug '15 5:59:48 AM radams
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*** His body was seizing up. His hand clenched and he couldn't unclench it. The nail made it release.
3rd Aug '15 10:06:06 AM Miguk
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*** But since the world is overpopulated (and taken over by Japanese corporations) in the movie, not deserted as in the book, the war couldn't have happened. Like so much of this movie, it just doesn't make sense because parts of the book have copied (right down to pages of dialogue) but other parts have been ignored.
15th Feb '15 8:25:45 PM modgethanc
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** Actually, I've always been under the impression Harrison Ford considered Deckard a human. Him considering Deckard a replicant, has only ever been conveyed second hand by Creator/RidleyScott, who is subscribing to his own theory, and from what I recall, what he said about Ford was less him staright up thinking Deckard is a replicant so much as being more open to the idea now.
*** There IS a more recent interview with Ford on the subject of Deckard's humanity. Looking back, he says he "resisted being a Replicant, I suppose as a Replicant would." So he's either accepted the possibility or just felt like keeping the debate open in a rather cheeky way.
* What I don't understand is that if Deckcard is supposed to be a replicant why can't he physically compete with the replicants he is facing? I can understand if his mental faculties aren't on the same level as those he hunts as he wouldn't be use to the idea of being one but that doesn't explain why he wouldn't have the same inherent strength and durability as them. This case of Fridge Logic makes the idea that he is human make a lot more sense.

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** Actually, I've always been under the impression Harrison Ford considered Deckard a human. Him considering Deckard a replicant, has only ever been conveyed second hand by Creator/RidleyScott, who is subscribing to his own theory, and from what I recall, what he said about Ford was less him staright straight up thinking Deckard is a replicant so much as being more open to the idea now.
*** There IS is a more recent interview with Ford on the subject of Deckard's humanity. Looking back, he says he "resisted being a Replicant, I suppose as a Replicant would." So he's either accepted the possibility or just felt like keeping the debate open in a rather cheeky way.
* What I don't understand is that if Deckcard Deckard is supposed to be a replicant why can't he physically compete with the replicants he is facing? I can understand if his mental faculties aren't on the same level as those he hunts as he wouldn't be use to the idea of being one but that doesn't explain why he wouldn't have the same inherent strength and durability as them. This case of Fridge Logic makes the idea that he is human make a lot more sense.



*** To me, this begs the question: ''why''? If you're designing a replicant to hunt other replicants, why would you design him to be both weaker and less intelligent than the replicants he is in fact hunting?
**** You're forgetting one very important thing; ''maybe they don't want him figuring out he's a replicant''. Giving him superhuman strength will probably just lead him to wondering how he was suddenly stricken with the strength of Heracles, and questioning his own humanity. And really, on what basis do you believe he's less intelligent than the Replicants? We're never really shown how smart any of them are save Roy, and he's considered to be a genius. All the other replicants seemed to have over Deckard in a fight was the element of surprise and brute strength, and even with both of those they still all wound up dead in the end (although admittedly Deckard only survived Leon due to Rachael's intervention). If anything, his ineptitude in dealing with the replicants could also be evidence towards him being a replicant, in that he's bad at actually dealing with the replicants because he's never ''dealt'' with a replicant before.
***** We are shown exactly what intelligence level each Replicant has. When shown their files, each file has their Physical and Mental Level: Roy's is Mental Level A, Pris and Zhora are both Level B, and Leon is Level C. The only ones we aren't shown are the two killed offscreen.
* What exactly is a Replicant? From an engineering perspective I mean. Are they stright up clones with genetic modification, or are they robots with some organic organs like their skin and brain? What do they look like on the inside? Do they look like [[http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpjsraBdiM1qzexpio1_500.jpg this?]] And if they are straight up genetically modified humans why does Priss do [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmPrGNMIguw this]] when she dies?

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*** To me, this begs raises the question: ''why''? If you're designing a replicant to hunt other replicants, why would you design him to be both weaker and less intelligent than the replicants he is in fact hunting?
**** *** You're forgetting one very important thing; ''maybe they don't want him figuring out he's a replicant''. Giving him superhuman strength will probably just lead him to wondering how he was suddenly stricken with the strength of Heracles, and questioning his own humanity. And really, on what basis do you believe he's less intelligent than the Replicants? We're never really shown how smart any of them are save Roy, and he's considered to be a genius. All the other replicants seemed to have over Deckard in a fight was the element of surprise and brute strength, and even with both of those they still all wound up dead in the end (although admittedly Deckard only survived Leon due to Rachael's intervention). If anything, his ineptitude in dealing with the replicants could also be evidence towards him being a replicant, in that he's bad at actually dealing with the replicants because he's never ''dealt'' with a replicant before.
***** *** We are shown exactly what intelligence level each Replicant has. When shown their files, each file has their Physical and Mental Level: Roy's is Mental Level A, Pris and Zhora are both Level B, and Leon is Level C. The only ones we aren't shown are the two killed offscreen.
** Deckard isn't meant to fight hand-to-hand with replicants. His job is to track them down and shoot them, which requires more intelligence than strength, so that's what they gave him.
* What exactly is a Replicant? From an engineering perspective I mean. Are they stright up clones with genetic modification, or are they robots with some organic organs like their skin and brain? What do they look like on the inside? Do they look like [[http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kpjsraBdiM1qzexpio1_500.jpg this?]] And if they are straight up genetically modified humans why does Priss Pris do [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmPrGNMIguw this]] when she dies?



** It can be inferred by the constantly overcast sky (even when it's "daylight") that humans have by this point fucked up the environment so much that it just happens to be cloudy and rainy a lot over L.A. Of course, the real reason is because rain-slicked streets and trenchcoats is so FilmNoir.



** The issue is raised in the book. Deckard is almost tricked into thinking Rachel is a human sociopath rather than an android after she fails the test, and thinking they are going to have to come up with some new test that won't catch sociopaths. After Tyrell (Rosen in the book) and Rachel try to blackmail him he decides the test was right and she is an android after all.

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** The issue is raised in the book. Deckard is almost tricked into thinking Rachel Rachael is a human sociopath rather than an android after she fails the test, and thinking they are going to have to come up with some new test that won't catch sociopaths. After Tyrell (Rosen in the book) and Rachel try to blackmail him he decides the test was right and she is an android after all.



** He didn't want to kill Sebastian, but he felt he had to because he'd just murdered Tyrell and couldn't leave any witnesses behind.



*** The way Holden interviews Leon it seemed more like he already knew that he was a replicant and more specifically one of the escaped Nexus-6 series. It's possible Blade Runners actually need to have a positive result on the VK-test before retiring a suspect. Every replicant except Zora initiates an attack so those might be special circumstances.

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*** The way Holden interviews Leon it seemed more like he already knew that he was a replicant and more specifically one of the escaped Nexus-6 series. It's possible Blade Runners actually need to have a positive result on the VK-test before retiring a suspect. Every replicant except Zora Zhora initiates an attack so those might be special circumstances.circumstances; then it would be self-defense.



** Intelligence might also include the ability to adapt and know how to talk to customers while the strenght rating might include sub-categories like "endurance".

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** Intelligence might also include the ability to adapt and know how to talk to customers while the strenght strength rating might include sub-categories like "endurance"."endurance".
** Pris didn't have high intelligence, she had average intelligence. Same with Zhora. Roy was the only super-intelligent replicant of the group, and that's why they made him their leader.



** Seems pretty clear: she was going to kill him by jumping on him and choking him or breaking his neck with her MurderousThighs. The backflips were just theatrical: she probably thought it would be easy to kill a single human who's not expecting it. As for why ... he was a police officer sent to kill them.



** The memory implants are not intended to fool everyone around the replicant into thinking it's a human, they're only intened to fool the replicant so that it will behave more like a human (and therefore be more predictable and controllable). With only a four-year lifespan its entirely possible the replicant won't find out or be convinced of the truth before it dies and you buy a new one to replace it.

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** The memory implants are not intended to fool everyone around the replicant into thinking it's a human, they're only intened intended to fool the replicant so that it will behave more like a human (and therefore be more predictable and controllable). With only a four-year lifespan its entirely possible the replicant won't find out or be convinced of the truth before it dies and you buy a new one to replace it.
6th Feb '15 12:47:19 AM ThomasSmith
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**It's been proposed further up on this page that Gaff is being condescending to Deckard in refusing to speak English, and the repetition happens when he realizes that Blade Runner doesn't translate.
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