History Headscratchers / BittersweetCandyBowl

19th Jul '16 9:14:32 PM BugBirdCrossesover
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*** Mike got sick of the abuse after that.


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*** I don't understand how that's overreacting. If somebody pulled on a sensitive part of your body, with no warning at all, would you just calmly turn around and ask them questions? Also, cats have really sensitive tails. The fact that Daisy pulled it probably hurt Lucy a lot. Lucy is also someone who seems to be catcalled, do you think she would be calm about somebody pulling on a sensitive body part close to her butt?
21st Feb '15 7:05:06 AM Shamro
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**** 1) In Acapulco, Mike learned that Lucy thought he had died, but he *also* saw how she desperately clung to someone else (in this case, Paulo) during that time
**** 2) In a span that couldn't have been more than 1-2 weeks *at most* Lucy went from 1) her confession to Mike to 2) desperately reaching out to Paulo and trying to make him her rebound to 3) transplanting her previously Mike-centric dynamics to Paulo. To make things worse, Mike only learned about this *by accident* because he just so happened to be in the hallway when Lucy confronted Paulo about his sleeping around after rejecting her.
**** 3) Lucy moving on to Augustus. From what Mike can see, this just comes off as yet another case of Lucy trying to find anyone who will keep her company.

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**** 1) In Acapulco, Mike learned that Lucy thought he had died, but he *also* saw how she desperately clung to someone else (in this case, Paulo) during that time
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**** 2) In a span that couldn't have been more than 1-2 weeks *at most* Lucy went from 1) A) her confession to Mike to 2) B) desperately reaching out to Paulo and trying to make him her rebound to 3) C) transplanting her previously Mike-centric dynamics to Paulo. To make things worse, Mike only learned about this the Paulo-encounter *by accident* because he just so happened to be in the hallway when Lucy confronted Paulo about his sleeping around after rejecting her.
**** 3) Lucy moving on to Augustus. From what Mike can see, this just comes off as yet another case of Lucy trying to find anyone who will keep her company. Ironically, it appears that Lucy's continuing to move to new people was starting to help her learn to develop normal interpersonal relationships--if only Mike's disapproval reversed, that would probably have tethered her to a healthier path.
21st Feb '15 6:54:36 AM Shamro
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*** These are the most important main story-related observations that a lot of fans are missing. Sure, anyone can point to times where Lucy really watched out for Mike and how she tried to improve for him, but from *Mike's point of view* however, all of those soured into insincere attempts to keep Lucy's "security blanket" safe. Remember:
**** 1) In Acapulco, Mike learned that Lucy thought he had died, but he *also* saw how she desperately clung to someone else (in this case, Paulo) during that time
**** 2) In a span that couldn't have been more than 1-2 weeks *at most* Lucy went from 1) her confession to Mike to 2) desperately reaching out to Paulo and trying to make him her rebound to 3) transplanting her previously Mike-centric dynamics to Paulo. To make things worse, Mike only learned about this *by accident* because he just so happened to be in the hallway when Lucy confronted Paulo about his sleeping around after rejecting her.
**** 3) Lucy moving on to Augustus. From what Mike can see, this just comes off as yet another case of Lucy trying to find anyone who will keep her company.
**** 4) Together, in the context of Mike's limited observations, all that Lucy did for him were merely by-products of her taking care of that which kept her from being alone (as opposed to genuine affection). Mike's increasingly hostile treatment to Lucy is more a tragic mistake than anything.
25th Aug '14 10:39:45 AM Deiser
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** I'm not against Mike as much as against his behavior on that day. While it's completely justified why he'd be hostile towards Lucy, keep in mind that in December he [[spoiler: specifically commented on how Lucy would be alone and unwanted - the two things he KNEW that Lucy was terrified of, and only knew them because he had known Lucy for such a long time - just to make her shut up. Say what you want of Lucy, but she never tried to make Mike feel miserable by INTENTIONALLY mentally traumatizing him through information she knew of him through their relationship. In that sense, Mike betrayed an intimate level of trust since most people wouldn't know how to utterly devastate Lucy to that extent.]] Lucy did physically abuse Mike, but it was obvious she did not realize how screwed up it was until she was called out on it and thus why she toned down her act

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** I'm not against Mike as much as against his behavior on that day. While it's completely justified why he'd be hostile towards Lucy, keep in mind that in December he [[spoiler: specifically commented on how Lucy would be alone and unwanted - the two things he KNEW that Lucy was terrified of, and only knew them because he had known Lucy for such a long time - just to make her shut up. Say what you want of Lucy, but she never tried to make Mike feel miserable by INTENTIONALLY mentally traumatizing him through information she knew of him through their relationship. In that sense, Mike betrayed an intimate level of trust since most people wouldn't know how to utterly devastate Lucy to that extent.]] Lucy did physically abuse Mike, but it was obvious she did not realize how screwed up it was until she was called out on it and thus why she toned down her actact. At the end of the day, Lucy was at fault for her actions yes, but Mike also went way too far when he blew up, so both deserve condemnation for their contributions to the problem.
25th Aug '14 10:37:43 AM Deiser
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** I'm not against Mike as much as against his behavior on that day. While it's completely justified why he'd be hostile towards Lucy, keep in mind that in December he [[spoiler: specifically commented on how Lucy would be alone and unwanted - the two things he KNEW that Lucy was terrified of, and only knew them because he had known Lucy for such a long time - just to make her shut up. Say what you want of Lucy, but she never tried to make Mike feel miserable by INTENTIONALLY mentally traumatizing him through information she knew of him through their relationship. In that sense, Mike betrayed an intimate level of trust since most people wouldn't know how to utterly devastate Lucy to that extent.]] Lucy did physically abuse Mike, but it was obvious she did not realize how screwed up it was until she was called out on it and thus why she toned down her act
25th Aug '14 10:31:28 AM Deiser
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** It seems like he repressed the memory when he tried to demonize Lucy as much as possible to himself. That's why [[spoiler: The memory is one of the things that he remembers when he starts thinking about the times when Lucy really did treat him as a friend, and why he broke down afterwards]]
27th Dec '13 9:17:56 AM Cheese678
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*** And as of recent events, it starts to become obvious that he might not be as replaceable as he thought... Then again, the alt-con comics have been showing that for a long time, as well. (Disaster Dominoes)

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*** And as of recent events, it starts to become obvious that he might not be as replaceable as he thought... Then again, the alt-con comics have been showing that for a long time, as well. (Disaster Dominoes)Dominoes)
* Carson's "death" has been bugging me. Since the author removed the pages of his "death" and put them in the Graveyard section (which is where non-canon pages and comics go), then isn't Carson technically not dead in canon?
10th Jul '13 2:45:03 AM ShadowDragoonFTW
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** How is this a "Headscratcher"? This is a truth of every work of fiction out there, period. No matter what the series, there will ALWAYS be people like this interested in it. It's not some big mystery: It's human nature.
6th Jul '13 5:37:59 AM ShadowDragoonFTW
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** Back on Mike thinking Lucy doesn't care for him, Mike seems to understand how unhealthy Lucy's dependency issues are. As far as he's concerned, she occasionally does nice things for him, but she's really just clinging to him because she needs him, not because she cares for him. The reason he's so cruel to her is because he's accepted the notion that the only affection he'll get in exchange for all the abuse he puts up with is clingy, desperate, fake affection that Lucy would just give to someone else if Mike were out of the picture.

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** Back on Mike thinking Lucy doesn't care for him, Mike seems to understand how unhealthy Lucy's dependency issues are. As far as he's concerned, she occasionally does nice things for him, but she's really just clinging to him because she needs him, not because she cares for him. The reason he's so cruel to her is because he's accepted the notion that the only affection he'll get in exchange for all the abuse he puts up with is clingy, desperate, fake affection that Lucy would just give to someone else if Mike were out of the picture.picture.
*** And as of recent events, it starts to become obvious that he might not be as replaceable as he thought... Then again, the alt-con comics have been showing that for a long time, as well. (Disaster Dominoes)
6th Jul '13 5:33:43 AM ShadowDragoonFTW
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**** He did in one of the incentive comics. BCB has a lot of "What If..." alternative comics, like the one where Paulo daydreamed about what would have happened if he had slept with Lucy. One of the "What If..." ones was what Augustus would have done if Abbey wasn't there to stop him, which was just kiss Daisy and let her go.
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