History Headscratchers / Ben10Omniverse

5th Dec '16 9:54:44 PM Manny20444
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* The new artstyle is supposed to be a hommage to the original series; yet, even the aliens and characters from that original show who had not changed so far were redesigned. Including Ben's aliens in the 10 years old flashback.

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* The new artstyle is supposed to be a hommage to the original series; yet, even the aliens and characters from that original show who had not changed so far were redesigned. Including Ben's aliens in the 10 11 years old flashback.



*** What I meant is Ben's face just look ridiculous now. It's actually borderline insult to the original show. I don't see how the Ultimate Aliens being gone is a tribute to the original show (granted, they weren't much use anyway, but that's not the point). Also, I don't remember Heatblast sounding like a grandpa in the original show. Again, if they wanted to pay tribute to the original show, why did they do as much, if not more change to the designs than AF ? The black lips are back for Wildmutt, sure, but Stinkfly looks different than before, and not just the 15 years old version.

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*** What I meant is Ben's face just look ridiculous now. It's actually borderline insult to the original show. I don't see how the Ultimate Aliens being gone is a tribute to the original show (granted, they weren't much use anyway, but that's not the point). Also, I don't remember Heatblast sounding like a grandpa in the original show. Again, if they wanted to pay tribute to the original show, why did they do as much, if not more change to the designs than AF ? The black lips are back for Wildmutt, sure, but Stinkfly looks different than before, and not just the 15 11 years old version.



*** What does the shooting laser thing has to do with ''designs''? At least in Ultimate Alien when they shew Stinkfly they tried their best to make him identical to the original. When we see 10 years old Stinkfly in Omniverse, they somehow felt it was required to change his mask. Like so many silly changes they made in the designs by the way (giving Alien X a LanternJawOfJustice, making Big Chill bulky...).

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*** What does the shooting laser thing has to do with ''designs''? At least in Ultimate Alien when they shew Stinkfly they tried their best to make him identical to the original. When we see 10 11 years old Stinkfly in Omniverse, they somehow felt it was required to change his mask. Like so many silly changes they made in the designs by the way (giving Alien X a LanternJawOfJustice, making Big Chill bulky...).
28th Oct '16 9:21:17 AM dlchen145
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** Ben has shown multiple times that he misses Gwen and Kevin so NostalgiaFilter is partially at play. It should also be noted that Rook actually hasn't been with Ben that long. In one of the first episodes of Omniverse Max says that Ben will be seventeen "in a few months." His birthday hasn't been shown or referenced since then and even if it was Rook still wouldn't have been working with Ben for that long (not even a full year.) Meanwhile he and Gwen have been working together since they were 10 and Kevin has been around for about a year and a half. It's understandable that Ben would consider them better partners due to both knowing them much longer and genuinely missing them. It's also understandable that the fake Ben had "Gwevin" rather than "a Rook" due to the fact that Rook hasn't been around long enough to have his time with Ben be twisted into that horrible show. While I can't deny that Rook is a BadAss I feel like you've overhyped his abilities and have forgotten that Gwen is a mixed-martial artist and that Kevin is a fairly decent street fighter. So basically all of this is understandable from an in-universe point of view and also from Ben's own point of view. Besides no one can deny that Ben is a little Tsundere towards Rook in a bromance sort of way.

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** Ben has shown multiple times that he misses Gwen and Kevin so NostalgiaFilter is partially at play. It should also be noted that Rook actually hasn't been with Ben that long. In one of the first episodes of Omniverse Max says that Ben will be seventeen "in a few months." His birthday hasn't been shown or referenced since then and even if it was Rook still wouldn't have been working with Ben for that long (not even a full year.) Meanwhile he and Gwen have been working together since they were 10 and Kevin has been around for about a year and a half. It's understandable that Ben would consider them better partners due to both knowing them much longer and genuinely missing them. It's also understandable that the fake Ben had "Gwevin" rather than "a Rook" due to the fact that Rook hasn't been around long enough to have his time with Ben be twisted into that horrible show. While I can't deny that Rook is a BadAss badass I feel like you've overhyped his abilities and have forgotten that Gwen is a mixed-martial artist and that Kevin is a fairly decent street fighter. So basically all of this is understandable from an in-universe point of view and also from Ben's own point of view. Besides no one can deny that Ben is a little Tsundere towards Rook in a bromance sort of way.
22nd Oct '16 1:42:04 PM BreadBull
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*** He's a jerk. He probably couldn't be bothered to, or somehow expects that everyone using it ''can'' be that gentle. In other words "Your fault, not my design choices".
10th Oct '16 2:33:19 PM Manny20444
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** The 16 years old Ben 10 is nicer, yes; the 10 years old one, on the other hand, acts even more obnoxious than before, especially in ''Trouble Helix''. I mean, just watch the episode; he outright tells Azmuth he messed up, keeps acting like an idiot even after seeing those Galvanic Mecamorphs being hurt, and mocks Gwen more than she does (in reverse to the situation in the original show). So yeah, TookALevelInJerkass.

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** The 16 years old Ben 10 is nicer, yes; the 10 11 years old one, on the other hand, acts even more obnoxious than before, especially in ''Trouble Helix''. I mean, just watch the episode; he outright tells Azmuth he messed up, keeps acting like an idiot even after seeing those Galvanic Mecamorphs being hurt, and mocks Gwen more than she does (in reverse to the situation in the original show). So yeah, TookALevelInJerkass.
22nd Sep '16 8:29:22 PM nombretomado
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* When the hell did Trumbipulor become so powerful?! In ''UltimateAlien'', Ben, Gwen and Kevin were enough to handle him, and he was so insignificant that he was only seen in {{Batman Cold Open}}s. And now out of nowhere, he is a GeniusBruiser who requires an entire group of Plumbers to be defeated? Did Ben become ''that'' [[BadassDecay incompetent]]?

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* When the hell did Trumbipulor become so powerful?! In ''UltimateAlien'', ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', Ben, Gwen and Kevin were enough to handle him, and he was so insignificant that he was only seen in {{Batman Cold Open}}s. And now out of nowhere, he is a GeniusBruiser who requires an entire group of Plumbers to be defeated? Did Ben become ''that'' [[BadassDecay incompetent]]?



* A minor one, but why do Khyber's trophies include a Geochelone Aerio (Terraspin) shell ? I would expect a guy like [[EgomaniacHunter Khyber]] to hunt down dangerous, or at least hard to catch preys. By that logic, trophies such as [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Vauxasaurians]], [[TimeMaster Chronosapiens]], [[PileBunker Talpedeans]] or [[LeeroyJenkins Appoplexians]] do make sense, but Geochelone Aerio are clearly shown in UltimateAlien to be harmless, pacific and remarquably easy to catch (seriously, it took Aggregor like five secondes to get Galapagus). Why would Khyber think that hunting one of those would be entertaining?

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* A minor one, but why do Khyber's trophies include a Geochelone Aerio (Terraspin) shell ? I would expect a guy like [[EgomaniacHunter Khyber]] to hunt down dangerous, or at least hard to catch preys. By that logic, trophies such as [[AttackOfThe50FootWhatever Vauxasaurians]], [[TimeMaster Chronosapiens]], [[PileBunker Talpedeans]] or [[LeeroyJenkins Appoplexians]] do make sense, but Geochelone Aerio are clearly shown in UltimateAlien ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' to be harmless, pacific and remarquably easy to catch (seriously, it took Aggregor like five secondes to get Galapagus). Why would Khyber think that hunting one of those would be entertaining?



** When the multiple timeline thing was introduced back in ''UltimateAlien'', the original Ben 10,000 was discussed as an example of an alternate timeline that existed in crosstime. He is unambiguously still around.

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** When the multiple timeline thing was introduced back in ''UltimateAlien'', ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', the original Ben 10,000 was discussed as an example of an alternate timeline that existed in crosstime. He is unambiguously still around.
22nd Sep '16 5:57:29 PM nombretomado
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*** The title of Omniverse is because it apparently take things from all of the [[{{WesternAnimation/Ben10}} Ben]] [[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce 10]] [[Ben10UltimateAlien series]] and mushes them together, making the "Omni" In the title mean [[ContinuityPorn all of them,]] while the "verse" part of it mean the Universe of Ben 10. The Omnitrix might behave differently because it's a newer model. And Primus was not in the Universal rebuild of Alien X. So, you at least got one of those theories right. Maybe two, considering that The new Omnitrix might've behaved much differently then before.

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*** The title of Omniverse is because it apparently take things from all of the [[{{WesternAnimation/Ben10}} Ben]] [[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce 10]] [[Ben10UltimateAlien [[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien series]] and mushes them together, making the "Omni" In the title mean [[ContinuityPorn all of them,]] while the "verse" part of it mean the Universe of Ben 10. The Omnitrix might behave differently because it's a newer model. And Primus was not in the Universal rebuild of Alien X. So, you at least got one of those theories right. Maybe two, considering that The new Omnitrix might've behaved much differently then before.
9th Jul '16 4:44:33 PM Anddrix
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* More meta, but where exactly do most Ben 10 fans even meet and discuss? I noticed Skurd was listed as a "big BaseBreaker," but when I checked the Wiki, Tumblr and Reddit, he was meh or well-liked. (Not that I'm mad that he's disliked, I don't care.)

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* More meta, but where exactly do most Ben 10 fans even meet and discuss? I noticed Skurd was listed as a "big BaseBreaker," BaseBreakingCharacter," but when I checked the Wiki, Tumblr and Reddit, he was meh or well-liked. (Not that I'm mad that he's disliked, I don't care.)
11th May '16 3:05:44 PM Merseyuser1
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* In second to last episode, it was said that Kevin took over Rook's job in Null Void because "someone has to keep Rooters in line". But does that mean that Rooters are still a threat that he fights off or that he's leader of Rooters?

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* In second to last episode, it was said that Kevin took over Rook's job in Null Void because "someone has to keep Rooters in line". But does that mean that Rooters are still a threat that he fights off or that he's leader of Rooters?Rooters?

* What are the Segmentasapien's true forms supposed to be? Are they StarfishAliens disguised as Lego? Nothing from WordOfGod on this.
11th Jun '15 7:01:53 AM Sunchet
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* What is up with Ben's personality change? I mean, I know the meta reason why, but what about inverse? What could have happened to Ben, that caused him to revert back to his original 10 year old personality? I mean, from what I can tell, it doesn't seem like a ''sudden'' change; everyone seems to be okay with Ben acting less mature than he originally was. So that indicates that the change was gradual, and over a period of time.

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* What is up with Ben's personality change? I mean, I know the meta reason why, but what about inverse? What could have happened to Ben, that caused him to revert back to his original 10 year old personality? I mean, from what I can tell, it doesn't seem like a ''sudden'' change; everyone seems to be okay with Ben acting less mature than he originally was. So that indicates that the change was gradual, and over a period of time.time.

*In second to last episode, it was said that Kevin took over Rook's job in Null Void because "someone has to keep Rooters in line". But does that mean that Rooters are still a threat that he fights off or that he's leader of Rooters?
16th Feb '15 7:53:49 PM nanayoung
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* More meta, but where exactly do most Ben 10 fans even meet and discuss? I noticed Skurd was listed as a "big BaseBreaker," but when I checked the Wiki, Tumblr and Reddit, he was meh or well-liked. (Not that I'm mad that he's disliked, I don't care.)

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* More meta, but where exactly do most Ben 10 fans even meet and discuss? I noticed Skurd was listed as a "big BaseBreaker," but when I checked the Wiki, Tumblr and Reddit, he was meh or well-liked. (Not that I'm mad that he's disliked, I don't care.))
* What is up with Ben's personality change? I mean, I know the meta reason why, but what about inverse? What could have happened to Ben, that caused him to revert back to his original 10 year old personality? I mean, from what I can tell, it doesn't seem like a ''sudden'' change; everyone seems to be okay with Ben acting less mature than he originally was. So that indicates that the change was gradual, and over a period of time.
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