History Headscratchers / BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker

6th Dec '17 8:56:50 PM QuarrelsomeSkulk
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** If I recall, Max was introduced in the second season. This movie was released around the time the first season was ending. Since the Joker was one of the major characters not seen in the first season (and of course... the rest of the series) and was the character most wanted to see return in some way, shape or form, this movie felt more like the true season finale of season 1.
14th Oct '17 9:51:55 AM Sharlee
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** In the new Batman Beyond comics, it seems like they are also [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc0u5o0F7l1rtszbfo1_1280.png hinting that it could be her...]]

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** In the new Batman Beyond ''Batman Beyond'' comics, it seems like they are also [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc0u5o0F7l1rtszbfo1_1280.png hinting that it could be her...]]


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** Possibly the Joker left a hint that if anyone else got involved in the search for Tim but Batman and Batgirl, he'd kill the boy then and there.
14th Oct '17 9:41:48 AM Sharlee
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*** Or it's ''still'' hiding under the skin, and Joker points it out on the back of his neck, we the audience are given a temporary X-ray view of the chip so we'll know exactly what he's blathering about. Which would make Terry's finishing move with the joy buzzer more of an act of faith: ''he'' only saw bare skin there, so he had to trust that Joker's ego had outweighed his paranoia in pointing out the chip's location correctly.

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*** Or it's ''still'' hiding under the skin, and when Joker points it out on the back of his neck, we the audience are given a temporary X-ray view of the chip so we'll know exactly what he's blathering about. Which would make Terry's finishing move with the joy buzzer more of an act of faith: ''he'' only saw bare skin there, so he had to trust that Joker's ego had outweighed his paranoia in pointing out the chip's location correctly.
14th Oct '17 9:40:41 AM Sharlee
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** It was supposed to be a visual cue that somehow didn't get animated. The original screenplay (which this troper once owned because it was actually published for the public) specifically writes that when Joker is teasing Batman over the video intercom when he went to Tim's lab he's eating a jar of jellybeasn with Jolly Jack written on it. This visual not getting put in the final product creates the plot hole.

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** It was supposed to be a visual cue that somehow didn't get animated. The original screenplay (which this troper once owned because it was actually published for the public) specifically writes that when Joker is teasing Batman over the video intercom when he went to Tim's lab he's eating a jar of jellybeasn jellybeans with Jolly Jack written on it. This visual not getting put in the final product creates the plot hole.


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*** Or it's ''still'' hiding under the skin, and Joker points it out on the back of his neck, we the audience are given a temporary X-ray view of the chip so we'll know exactly what he's blathering about. Which would make Terry's finishing move with the joy buzzer more of an act of faith: ''he'' only saw bare skin there, so he had to trust that Joker's ego had outweighed his paranoia in pointing out the chip's location correctly.
14th Oct '17 9:33:54 AM Sharlee
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*** Or the control-chip may be utilizing Tim's muscles to a greater extent than the human body usually allows. It's not normally possible to contract ''all'' the fibers in one's muscles at a time, because the body's safety mechanisms won't risk breaking tendons or bones from maximal contraction. But the chip doesn't really give a damn if Tim's muscular system suffers damage, so it could be overriding those limits and ignoring the risks.
14th Oct '17 9:24:40 AM Sharlee
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** Original-Batman at his peak regularly managed to beat up villains with armor, and more than a few with superhuman strength. So, yeah, it's quite plausible that a Joker who's swiped Bruce's and Tim's abilities from the height of their careers would smack Terry around like a punching bag, suit or no suit.
14th Oct '17 9:19:01 AM Sharlee
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** It's entirely possible that in this continuity, it wasn't just acid in that chemical-factory vat in the first place, but some sort of mutagen that altered the original Joker's genetic code: alterations he later inflicted upon [[spoiler: Tim Drake]]. After all, if being doused in chemicals had only ''stained'' his hair, one would expect the green color to grow out eventually.
14th Jul '17 6:53:39 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* I get the impression the odd one-piece suit the Joker was wearing in that scene was also a strength-increasing suit on par with McGinnis's. It'd be such an odd choice of clothing for him otherwise, since he usually favors colorful old-style costumes  not to mention he was apparently making Tim Drake wear it under his labcoat, which would be rather pointless otherwise but makes a lot of sense if the Joker is trying to protect his host body.
25th Jun '17 10:54:53 AM nombretomado
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* So the Joker steals technology from (according to TheOtherWiki) Cadmus and implants his brain and DNA into Tim Drake through a zit-sized chip on the back of his neck. How does the chip go on about changing Tim's skin color, hair color, facial features, ''and'' pupils into those of the Joker's? That's some funky LegoGenetics for late 20th century technology.

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* So the Joker steals technology from (according to TheOtherWiki) Wiki/TheOtherWiki) Cadmus and implants his brain and DNA into Tim Drake through a zit-sized chip on the back of his neck. How does the chip go on about changing Tim's skin color, hair color, facial features, ''and'' pupils into those of the Joker's? That's some funky LegoGenetics for late 20th century technology.
13th Apr '17 10:42:54 PM HissingAurora94
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*** [[spoiler: No, Tim didn't know that. In the end when Terry introduces himself as the guy he met the "other day", Tim goes "I did?", and then he realises that the young man standing before him is the new Batman]].
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