History Headscratchers / Bakuman

24th Mar '18 4:21:28 PM nombretomado
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31st Jan '18 8:33:40 AM riverdine
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** It's worth pointing out that Mashiro and Azuki are, despite their humble beginnings, essentially Japanese celebrities, being half of a best-selling mangaka duo, and a voice actress who could reasonably expect to land a main heroine role, respectively. It's natural that they'd attract a fair amount of attention and controversy over their relationship. Miura once says "Voice acting is a job that sells dreams[[note]]I wonder if he means people fantasizing about getting together with their favorite idols, or imagining them as someone who wouldn't settle down with someone[[/note]], so I can understand the fans being annoyed, but..." Additionally, with the exception of the anonymous posters and Miho's manager (who has virtually no respect for her individual wishes, as seen in the gravure photo album incident back when Mashiro first got serialized), ''everyone'' thinks that Mashiro and Azuki haven't done anything wrong, which could underscore how unreasonable the backlash is.

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** It's worth pointing out that Mashiro and Azuki are, despite their humble beginnings, essentially Japanese celebrities, being half of a best-selling mangaka duo, and a voice actress who could reasonably expect to land a main heroine role, respectively. It's natural that they'd attract a fair amount of attention and controversy over their relationship. Miura once says "Voice acting is a job that sells dreams[[note]]I wonder if he means people fantasizing about getting together with their favorite idols, or imagining them as someone who wouldn't settle down with someone[[/note]], so I can understand the fans being annoyed, but..." Additionally, with the exception of the anonymous posters and Miho's manager (who has virtually no respect for her individual wishes, as seen in the gravure photo album incident back when Mashiro first got serialized), ''everyone'' thinks that Mashiro and Azuki haven't done anything wrong, which could underscore how unreasonable the backlash is.is.
* Both Mashiro and Takagi are idiots when it comes to manga and storytelling. They have skills, but they are ''constantly'' treating tropes and story structure brought to their attentino as amazing, never before thought of ideas. The most prominent example is when they need a single issue story for PVP, and Takagi seems only to work in arcs. But once told and rereading old manga, the idea that using minor lines and stuff from previous stories and working it into retroactive foreshadowing is mindblowing to him. There's so many more; and I get part of point of the story is teaching/showing how the manga industry works, but too many times when the story stuff happens to them, they are ''years'' into their career, treating fairly basic ideas as godsends.
* Why doesn't Nanamine just start his own magazine after being defeated the second time? Yeah, his ego is bruised as he didn't defeat Ashirogi the way he wanted to, but in the end he did just want to create manga, right? He has four floors of a building, massive staff, so many one-shots and potential series that ''are'' popular; as a new magazine, he'd seem to do fairly well. It's not ''Jump'', but considering how much money he's put behind his story production already...
1st Jan '17 9:12:40 PM MichaelKatsuro
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*** Seriously. Look, that a character in a manga is a sexist does ''not'' mean the creator is a sexist. The movie ''Downfall'' is about Adolf Hitler. Does that mean that the director of ''Downfall'' must be a Nazi as well? Of course not. You might as well say that since Light Yagami is the protagonist of ''Death Note'', Obata and Ohba support mass murder. Obata & Ohba have never ever said that we're supposed to agree with everything that Shujin and Mashiro say and think, or that Aoki is meant to represent womankind as a whole. If you assume that, it's not their fault.



* About the sexism, right in the beginning Shujin points out that the hardworking Iwase just creepy guys out while Azuki is "smart" for not trying too hard and choosing a "girly dream" she can enjoy instead of aiming high.

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* ** About the sexism, right in the beginning Shujin points out that the hardworking Iwase just creepy guys out while Azuki is "smart" for not trying too hard and choosing a "girly dream" she can enjoy instead of aiming high.
5th Aug '16 12:58:37 PM Mycelis
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*About the sexism, right in the beginning Shujin points out that the hardworking Iwase just creepy guys out while Azuki is "smart" for not trying too hard and choosing a "girly dream" she can enjoy instead of aiming high.
19th Nov '15 12:30:46 AM Adept
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* When the characters wink solemnly or their noses become quasi-realistic, what does it ''mean''? (Any HikaruNoGo readers willing to pitch in here? I have a tentative theory for the first bit that Obata just has a thing for people covering their right eyes.)

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* When the characters wink solemnly or their noses become quasi-realistic, what does it ''mean''? (Any HikaruNoGo ''Manga/HikaruNoGo'' readers willing to pitch in here? I have a tentative theory for the first bit that Obata just has a thing for people covering their right eyes.)
19th Oct '13 7:52:36 AM ggultra2764
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*** I don't mean the whole sexism angle that gets widely debated from fans of the series. I mean the absurdity of the whole thing. There could have been a point where like their parents, Mashiro and Azuki could have gotten bored of the arrangement and eventually one of them decided to start a relationship up with someone else. That would have made all the hard work and time that they were apart just to be successful before being together completely pointless.

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*** I don't mean the whole sexism angle that gets widely debated from fans of the series. I mean the absurdity of the whole thing. There could have been a point where like their parents, uncle and mother, Mashiro and Azuki could have gotten bored of the arrangement and eventually one of them decided to start a relationship up with someone else. That would have made all the hard work and time that they were apart just to be successful before being together completely pointless.
19th Oct '13 7:51:05 AM ggultra2764
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*** I don't mean the whole sexism angle that gets widely debated from fans of the series. I mean the absurdity of the whole thing. There could have been a point where like their parents, Mashiro and Azuki could have gotten bored of the arrangement and eventually one of them decided to start a relationship up with someone else. That would have made all the hard work and time that they were apart just to be successful before being together completely pointless.
21st Sep '13 4:29:13 PM m8e
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** It's worth pointing out that Mashiro and Azuki are, despite their humble beginnings, essentially Japanese celebrities, being half of a best-selling mangaka duo, and a voice actress who could reasonably expect to land a main heroine role, respectively. It's natural that they'd attract a fair amount of attention and controversy over their relationship. Miura once says "Voice acting is a job that sells dreams[[hottip:note:I wonder if he means people fantasizing about getting together with their favorite idols, or imagining them as someone who wouldn't settle down with someone]], so I can understand the fans being annoyed, but..." Additionally, with the exception of the anonymous posters and Miho's manager (who has virtually no respect for her individual wishes, as seen in the gravure photo album incident back when Mashiro first got serialized), ''everyone'' thinks that Mashiro and Azuki haven't done anything wrong, which could underscore how unreasonable the backlash is.

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** It's worth pointing out that Mashiro and Azuki are, despite their humble beginnings, essentially Japanese celebrities, being half of a best-selling mangaka duo, and a voice actress who could reasonably expect to land a main heroine role, respectively. It's natural that they'd attract a fair amount of attention and controversy over their relationship. Miura once says "Voice acting is a job that sells dreams[[hottip:note:I dreams[[note]]I wonder if he means people fantasizing about getting together with their favorite idols, or imagining them as someone who wouldn't settle down with someone]], someone[[/note]], so I can understand the fans being annoyed, but..." Additionally, with the exception of the anonymous posters and Miho's manager (who has virtually no respect for her individual wishes, as seen in the gravure photo album incident back when Mashiro first got serialized), ''everyone'' thinks that Mashiro and Azuki haven't done anything wrong, which could underscore how unreasonable the backlash is.
6th Sep '13 9:17:49 PM Moonhitler
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** Presumably, he feels she might think he's only going out with her for his uncle's sake, and not because he likes her.
6th Sep '13 9:07:48 PM Moonhitler
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** If they went into that much detail about the individual mangas, it would most likely detract from the actual plot of the manga. The changes in the manga you mention actually being discussed (gag/story etc.) would genuinely change how the manga is written, and change the audience reading said manga, and most importantly, it would affect the plot of Bakuman. The content details of the individual mangas don't really affect the plot overall, so it doesn't go into much detail there.
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