History Headscratchers / Babe

16th Dec '15 10:21:43 AM erforce
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** I'll hurl a WMG at this one: Maybe he saw the 1986 version of TheFly. I know it was baboons in that film, but, hey, it was scary!

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** I'll hurl a WMG at this one: Maybe he saw the 1986 version of TheFly.''[[Film/TheFly1986 The Fly]]''. I know it was baboons in that film, but, hey, it was scary!
29th Nov '14 1:03:18 PM Iuri97
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----*This has always bugged me... so the animals are sentient and can talk. The humans aren´t exactly aware of this, which is why there is no problem with killing a sentient pig and eat it. After all, you don´t know that it is sentient. But... can´t this be considered CarnivoreConfusion? Humans are basically eating a sentient creature, albeit unknowingly. Now, we know that Esme and Arthur love animals and treat the ones at their farm well... which is why it can be a little out-of-character to see them making plans for Christmas dinner considering the circumstances (again, they DON´T KNOW,but...). I whish to know if this can be considered CarnivoreConfusion.
11th Sep '13 7:38:07 AM KorenSteen
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** It belonged to a recently deceased clown who owned such outfits. Also, when she hit that [[BuffySpeak waiter person guy]] that landed on the dessert table, he suddenly held up a tag that said "DO NOT PULL" which we can assume he grabbed it by accident. Just common sense, nobody could've missed that.
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3rd Aug '13 7:33:29 AM Iuri
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* Why did Ms.Hogget´s suit inflated in the sequel? Rule of Funny aside it didn´t make any sense.
17th Jul '13 12:02:07 AM JCAll
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**Maybe Babe didn't use the Password to get the Sheep to do what he said. Maybe he just used it to get them to finally open up and talk to him, before winning them over on his own merits.
29th May '13 2:32:39 PM ArchTeryx
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** In the book the password is more of a Creed that all sheep know (which sums up as "Sheep aren't stupid") that Babe uses to get their attention, and convinced them that he's nice enough to listen to, since they rightly assume that he wouldn't have been told the password if he wasn't.

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** In the book the password pass-phrase is more of a Creed that all sheep know (which sums up as "Sheep aren't stupid") stupid, and are loyal to their own") that Babe uses to get their attention, and convinced them that he's nice enough to listen to, since they rightly assume that he wouldn't have been told the password if he wasn't.
7th Jan '13 6:26:12 PM ArchTeryx
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7th Jan '13 2:14:01 PM ArchTeryx
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*** Using the Sheep's Creed to signify you are trustworthy and having the sheep willingly follow you, rather than being frightened into performing the routine, isn't against the rules. If any of the other sheepdog had ''just asked'' (which they could have done, kind of a point of the film), they might have had the same advantage. And if sheep and dogs had developed a mutual understanding for a while, ALL the dogs would perform a flawless match, and the whole competition would quickly break down into a sham, if it existed at all. Why would it need to, if all a dog needed to do to herd sheep is ask? Time will tell if Babe's advantage will spread out and change the world, but, in this case, think of it a bit like ''Ender's Game''. Babe broke the mold that had dictated the role of dogs and sheep for as long as any of them knew, but unlike ''Ender's Game'', Babe is a children's movie, and It's all just good fun.

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*** Using the Sheep's Creed to signify you are trustworthy and having the sheep willingly follow you, rather than being frightened into performing the routine, isn't against the rules. If any of the other sheepdog sheepdogs had ''just asked'' (which they could have done, kind of a point of the film), they might have had the same advantage. And if sheep and dogs had developed a mutual understanding for a while, ALL the dogs would perform a flawless match, and the whole competition would quickly break down into a sham, if it existed at all. Why would it need to, if all a dog needed to do to herd sheep is ask? Time will tell if Babe's advantage will spread out and change the world, but, in this case, think of it a bit like ''Ender's Game''. Babe broke the mold that had dictated the role of dogs and sheep for as long as any of them knew, but unlike ''Ender's Game'', Babe is a children's movie, and It's all just good fun.
7th Jan '13 1:58:41 PM ArchTeryx
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*** I really doubt "Using passwords that signify you are a trustworthy being and letting the sheep willfully follow you rather than being scared and forced into fancy feats of herding formations" is against the rules. The illusion is that perceiving such an advantage as "COMPLETELY UNORTHODOX, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" is false, as, if any of the other sheepdog asked (which they could have done, kind of a point of the film), they would have had the same advantage. And if life and history had evolved that the sheep and dogs had mutual understanding for as long as anyone could remember, EVERYONE would perform a flawless match, and the whole competition would be a sham, if it existed at all. Time will tell if Babe's advantage would leak over into mutual information, but, in this case, think of it a bit like ''Ender's Game''. Babe broke the mold that had dictated the role of dogs and sheep for as long as any of them knew, but unlike ''Ender's Game'', Babe is a children's movie, and It's all just good fun.

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*** I really doubt "Using passwords that Using the Sheep's Creed to signify you are a trustworthy being and letting having the sheep willfully willingly follow you you, rather than being scared and forced frightened into fancy feats of herding formations" is performing the routine, isn't against the rules. The illusion is that perceiving such an advantage as "COMPLETELY UNORTHODOX, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" is false, as, if If any of the other sheepdog asked had ''just asked'' (which they could have done, kind of a point of the film), they would might have had the same advantage. And if life and history had evolved that the sheep and dogs had developed a mutual understanding for as long as anyone could remember, EVERYONE a while, ALL the dogs would perform a flawless match, and the whole competition would be quickly break down into a sham, if it existed at all. all. Why would it need to, if all a dog needed to do to herd sheep is ask? Time will tell if Babe's advantage would leak over into mutual information, will spread out and change the world, but, in this case, think of it a bit like ''Ender's Game''. Babe broke the mold that had dictated the role of dogs and sheep for as long as any of them knew, but unlike ''Ender's Game'', Babe is a children's movie, and It's all just good fun.
7th Jan '13 1:51:21 PM ArchTeryx
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** Been a while since I've seen the movie, but in the book the password is more of a motto that all sheep know (which amounts to "Sheep aren't stupid") that Babe uses to get their attention, and convince them that he's nice enough to listen to, since they rightly assume that he wouldn't have been told the password if he wasn't.

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** Been a while since I've seen the movie, but in In the book the password is more of a motto Creed that all sheep know (which amounts to sums up as "Sheep aren't stupid") that Babe uses to get their attention, and convince convinced them that he's nice enough to listen to, since they rightly assume that he wouldn't have been told the password if he wasn't.



*** I really doubt "Using passwords that signify you are a trustworthy being and letting the sheep willfully follow you rather than being scared and forced into fancy feats of herding formations" is against the rules. The illusion is that perceiving such an advantage as "COMPLETELY UNORTHODOX, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" is false, as, if any of the other sheepdog asked (which they could have done, kind of a point of the film), they would have had the same advantage. And if life and history had evolved that the sheep and dogs had mutual understanding for as long as anyone could remember, EVERYONE would perform a flawless match, and the whole competition would be a sham, if it existed at all. Time will tell if Babe's advantage would leak over into mutual information, but, in this case, think of it like Ender's Game. Ender, having an excellent imagination and tactical-strategic ability, constantly one-upped his opponents by his having of an advantage. He had something his opponent did not, and he exploited it. Luckily, Babe being a children's movie, it's not at all as serious as any of that. It's just good fun.

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*** I really doubt "Using passwords that signify you are a trustworthy being and letting the sheep willfully follow you rather than being scared and forced into fancy feats of herding formations" is against the rules. The illusion is that perceiving such an advantage as "COMPLETELY UNORTHODOX, RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" is false, as, if any of the other sheepdog asked (which they could have done, kind of a point of the film), they would have had the same advantage. And if life and history had evolved that the sheep and dogs had mutual understanding for as long as anyone could remember, EVERYONE would perform a flawless match, and the whole competition would be a sham, if it existed at all. Time will tell if Babe's advantage would leak over into mutual information, but, in this case, think of it a bit like Ender's Game. Ender, having an excellent imagination and tactical-strategic ability, constantly one-upped his opponents by his having of an advantage. He had something his opponent did not, and he exploited it. Luckily, ''Ender's Game''. Babe being broke the mold that had dictated the role of dogs and sheep for as long as any of them knew, but unlike ''Ender's Game'', Babe is a children's movie, it's not at all as serious as any of that. and It's all just good fun.
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