History Headscratchers / AttackOfTheClones

23rd Jun '16 12:29:28 PM MrDeath
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** Because the Sith are on the leadership of the other side of the war.
23rd Jun '16 12:21:14 PM brianify
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* Why do the Jedi just accept their new and unexplained role as generals in the new clone army? Warfare would logically be anathema to the Jedi, as their Code stresses peaceful resolution and defense. A war would be a terrible thing for the Jedi Order to get involved in, because the emotions that the Jedi are supposed to guard against (fear, aggression, anger, hate, etc.) are all around them, constantly. It would also mean that each Jedi would be tempted to resort to the dark side much more than they would normally, to both save their own lives and protect their comrades. On the more practical side, the Jedi themselves are more of a SpacePolice, and have no knowledge of or training in strategy and tactics: Mace Windu at the start of the movie mentions that they're keepers of the peace, not soldiers. You could make a case for Yoda I guess (he's 900, who knows what he's done in his life?) but for the rest, they'd more likely be used as elite shock troops, not as leaders.
1st Jun '16 8:44:38 PM psionycx
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*** That's a very romanticized view of Jango, who sub-contracted the assassination attempts on Padme to another bounty hunter and who the Kaminoans outright stated was receiving very substantial pay for his contribution to the clone army! There is actually no justification for believing that he is especially honorable. Certainly not when he was willing to lie to a Jedi Master's face about his activities. He clearly ''knows'' that his actions are going to plunge the galaxy into war and doesn't care. He most definitely ''could'' sell out Dooku, since the other Separatist leaders were only willing to go to war because they believed that they had absolute military superiority over the Republic. If they knew that Dooku was setting them up for a huge and expensive war then they would have sicced the droidekas on him so fast his head would have spun!


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*** Except that, as is explicitly stated in the film, it took roughly a ''decade'' to grow the clone army! What does that coincide with? Palpatine becoming chancellor! So, you have an army that even the Kaminoans themselves believe is being grown for the Republic (not for Count Dooku or the CIS), which was funded by unknown parties, the very existence of which is ''illegal'' under Republic law and which was ready to be deployed the instant that Palpatine was voted emergency powers that suddenly made it legal for him to assemble such an army! The Jedi ''claim'' that they don't believe in coincidence. But this is a whole pile of supposed coincidences that all point in exactly ''one'' direction - at Palpatine!
26th May '16 11:58:07 PM alex51324
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** He could also have just thrown in the "rethink your life" part on the off chance that it might work, with the main goal being to get the guy to leave him alone.
6th Apr '16 3:50:21 PM costanton11
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*** According to the Bounty Hunter game, it wasn't so much narcissism that inspired it as much as it was a realization that, with the kind of life he lives, settling down and finding a girl is out of the question.

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*** According to the Bounty Hunter game, it wasn't so much narcissism that inspired it as much as it was a realization that, with the kind of life he lives, settling down and finding a girl is out of the question.question, so this was pretty much the only way he would have a kid.
1st Apr '16 4:54:05 PM Dragon101
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** Sidious is kept abreast of all major Separatist strategies (when he isn't directing them) and likely feeding them information. The danger of them actually being able to strike a major blow against the Republic and put Palpatine at risk without his knowledge would be minimal, and remember that the leader of the Separatists is his own apprentice. The scenario described above is only really plausible if Dooku either isn't doing his job (eg. Grevious or the other leaders make important decisions behind his back or outright overthrow him) or if Dooku flat-out betrays Sidious, which in either case means he has bigger problems than worrying where Palpatine will fit in a post-Separatist victory. In any case, it's unlikely the non-Dooku Separatists will want to ''kill'' the Chancellor so much as take him prisoner, but the most logical course of action for him to take would be for Palpatine to fake his death followed by Sidious taking a more direct role in the Confederacy, which would only happen if a Confederate victory became not only more plausible but also more ''desirable''- again, Palpatine controls both sides, which means he has a monopoly on important strategic information, which means he is basically playing a chess match against himself and can pick and choose not just who wins what battle but also which battles are fought in the first place. Basically, as long as he plans carefully enough and doesn't tip his hand (and more than likely, the Republic might just be the more powerful of the two factions to begin with), it shouldn't be ''that'' hard to con each side. Not to mention, Separatist leaders like Nute Gunray are morons.


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*** The fact that 3PO did not recognise ''Owen'' might be another indicator to Owen that this is not the same droid (that he last saw two decades ago). Even if he considers that 3PO might have just has his memory erased...what of it? How can he prove that? It's not like 3PO can confirm this if he asks (after all- memory wipe) and he's clearly different from how Owen remembers him superficially. Most likely though he just didn't think of it- he didn't even seem to be listening to 3PO when he told him his name; he cared more about what 3PO was capable of and what kind of work he could do.
1st Apr '16 4:34:52 PM Dragon101
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*** He can't sell it to the Separatists because Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, already knows that he's the template for the Clone Army- he's the guy who ''hired'' him for it. Really, it's not even a secret- both sides know after the movie that Jango is the one the Clone Army is based on, and they know that it was commissioned by Jedi. Assume the Jedi was Dooku (which it was, though Sifo Dyas played a part) and you could rationalise it as "Dooku secretly made a commission for the army in the name of the Republic, but secretly it was for the Separatists". If you are a Separatist, it looks like Dooku's secret "ace in the hole" that he never bothered telling you about and that was stolen from him by the Jedi; if you are with the Republic, it looks like you snatched the army from right under the nose of Count Dooku, or whoever they think Tyrannus might be. Aside from that, you fail to understand the character of Jango Fett- he isn't in it for the money, he isn't in it to retire, he is in it fighting and hunting are his ''life'', which is exemplified by the existence of Boba Fett in the first place: to carry on his legacy. So, firstly, he can't sell it to the Separatists because the guy he'd sell it to is Dooku (who knows), or he sells it to Gunray et al behind Dookus' back (which he won't do because he still works for Dooku and that is a betrayal of contract, not to mention it risks making an enemy of Dooku if he finds out), and secondly he ''doesn't care'' about any of this, because money isn't the main motivator for him- the way of life and the professionalism that goes with it is.

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*** He can't sell it to the Separatists because Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, already knows that he's the template for the Clone Army- he's the guy who ''hired'' him for it. Really, it's not even a secret- both sides know after the movie that Jango is the one the Clone Army is based on, and they know that it was commissioned by Jedi. Assume the Jedi was Dooku (which it was, though Sifo Dyas played a part) and you could rationalise it as "Dooku secretly made a commission for the army in the name of the Republic, but secretly it was for the Separatists". If you are a Separatist, it looks like Dooku's secret "ace in the hole" that he never bothered telling you about and that was stolen from him by the Jedi; if you are with the Republic, it looks like you snatched the army from right under the nose of Count Dooku, or whoever they think Tyrannus might be. Aside from that, you fail to understand the character of Jango Fett- he isn't in it for the money, he isn't in it to retire, he is in it fighting and hunting are his ''life'', which is exemplified by the existence of Boba Fett in the first place: to carry on his legacy. So, firstly, he can't sell it to the Separatists because the guy he'd sell it to is Dooku (who knows), or he sells it to Gunray et al behind Dookus' back (which he won't do because he still works for Dooku and that is a betrayal of contract, not to mention it risks making an enemy of Dooku if he finds out), and secondly he ''doesn't care'' about any of this, because money isn't the main motivator for him- the way of life and the professionalism that goes with it is.



*** The Jedi are not suspicious of Palpatine until the 3rd film, after he is still in office despite his legal term being up (Yoda might be suspicious in this film, but it's more of a "something not right about this guy" sort of suspicion; nothing concrete). They realize at the end of the movie that a war between the Republic and the Separatists was exactly what the Sith wanted, but to what end they don't know. Palpatine might be the most obvious suspect, but without proof there is no reason to suspect him much more than anyone else (in the ''Legends'' novels it is mentioned that they think he might be a pawn), especially since they are regularly in meetings with him and they never once sense the Dark Side in him (a testament to his skill more than anything else). Basically, the Jedi ''do'' realize that they have been had, but they don't know the endgame now the mastermind and it doesn't matter since if they don't play along and fight the war with the Clone army, the Republic will just find different, less capable commanders and possibly the Separatists will slaughter everyone regardless. They ''have'' to fight this war, which hampers their freedom to investigate what is ''really'' going on. Plus as stated, for all they know the clone army was originally meant to be used by Dooku and they just got lucky, even if they doubt that is true.

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*** The Jedi are not suspicious of Palpatine until the 3rd film, after he is still in office despite his legal term being up (Yoda might be suspicious in this film, but it's more of a "something not right about this guy" sort of suspicion; nothing concrete). They realize at the end of the movie that a war between the Republic and the Separatists was exactly what the Sith wanted, but to what end they don't know. Palpatine might be the most obvious suspect, but without proof there is no reason to suspect him much more than anyone else (in the ''Legends'' novels it is mentioned that they think he might be a pawn), especially since they are regularly in meetings with him and they never once sense the Dark Side in him (a testament to his skill more than anything else). Basically, the Jedi ''do'' realize that they have been had, but they don't know the endgame now nor the mastermind and it doesn't matter since if they don't play along and fight the war with the Clone army, the Republic will just find different, less capable commanders and possibly the Separatists will slaughter everyone regardless. They ''have'' to fight this war, which hampers their freedom to investigate what is ''really'' going on. Plus as stated, for all they know the clone army was originally meant to be used by Dooku and they just got lucky, even if they doubt that is true.
1st Apr '16 4:32:13 PM Dragon101
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** He can't sell it to the Separatists because Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, already knows that he's the template for the Clone Army- he's the guy who ''hired'' him for it. Really, it's not even a secret- both sides know after the movie that Jango is the one the Clone Army is based on, and they know that it was commissioned by Jedi. Assume the Jedi was Dooku (which it was, though Sifo Dyas played a part) and you could rationalise it as "Dooku secretly made a commission for the army in the name of the Republic, but secretly it was for the Separatists". If you are a Separatist, it looks like Dooku's secret "ace in the hole" that he never bothered telling you about and that was stolen from him by the Jedi; if you are with the Republic, it looks like you snatched the army from right under the nose of Count Dooku, or whoever they think Tyrannus might be. Aside from that, you fail to understand the character of Jango Fett- he isn't in it for the money, he isn't in it to retire, he is in it fighting and hunting are his ''life'', which is exemplified by the existence of Boba Fett in the first place: to carry on his legacy. So, firstly, he can't sell it to the Separatists because the guy he'd sell it to is Dooku (who knows), or he sells it to Gunray et al behind Dookus' back (which he won't do because he still works for Dooku and that is a betrayal of contract, not to mention it risks making an enemy of Dooku if he finds out), and secondly he ''doesn't care'' about any of this, because money isn't the main motivator for him- the way of life and the professionalism that goes with it is.

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** *** He can't sell it to the Separatists because Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, already knows that he's the template for the Clone Army- he's the guy who ''hired'' him for it. Really, it's not even a secret- both sides know after the movie that Jango is the one the Clone Army is based on, and they know that it was commissioned by Jedi. Assume the Jedi was Dooku (which it was, though Sifo Dyas played a part) and you could rationalise it as "Dooku secretly made a commission for the army in the name of the Republic, but secretly it was for the Separatists". If you are a Separatist, it looks like Dooku's secret "ace in the hole" that he never bothered telling you about and that was stolen from him by the Jedi; if you are with the Republic, it looks like you snatched the army from right under the nose of Count Dooku, or whoever they think Tyrannus might be. Aside from that, you fail to understand the character of Jango Fett- he isn't in it for the money, he isn't in it to retire, he is in it fighting and hunting are his ''life'', which is exemplified by the existence of Boba Fett in the first place: to carry on his legacy. So, firstly, he can't sell it to the Separatists because the guy he'd sell it to is Dooku (who knows), or he sells it to Gunray et al behind Dookus' back (which he won't do because he still works for Dooku and that is a betrayal of contract, not to mention it risks making an enemy of Dooku if he finds out), and secondly he ''doesn't care'' about any of this, because money isn't the main motivator for him- the way of life and the professionalism that goes with it is.
1st Apr '16 4:31:47 PM Dragon101
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** He can't sell it to the Separatists because Dooku, the leader of the Separatists, already knows that he's the template for the Clone Army- he's the guy who ''hired'' him for it. Really, it's not even a secret- both sides know after the movie that Jango is the one the Clone Army is based on, and they know that it was commissioned by Jedi. Assume the Jedi was Dooku (which it was, though Sifo Dyas played a part) and you could rationalise it as "Dooku secretly made a commission for the army in the name of the Republic, but secretly it was for the Separatists". If you are a Separatist, it looks like Dooku's secret "ace in the hole" that he never bothered telling you about and that was stolen from him by the Jedi; if you are with the Republic, it looks like you snatched the army from right under the nose of Count Dooku, or whoever they think Tyrannus might be. Aside from that, you fail to understand the character of Jango Fett- he isn't in it for the money, he isn't in it to retire, he is in it fighting and hunting are his ''life'', which is exemplified by the existence of Boba Fett in the first place: to carry on his legacy. So, firstly, he can't sell it to the Separatists because the guy he'd sell it to is Dooku (who knows), or he sells it to Gunray et al behind Dookus' back (which he won't do because he still works for Dooku and that is a betrayal of contract, not to mention it risks making an enemy of Dooku if he finds out), and secondly he ''doesn't care'' about any of this, because money isn't the main motivator for him- the way of life and the professionalism that goes with it is.
1st Apr '16 10:01:11 AM costanton11
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*** I think Anakin's behaviour, although it can rub people the wrong way, makes a lot of sense when you look at it in the context of the film. He's nineteen, but he's never been on a mission by himself and it's clear he's saved Obi-Wan a few times. So, clearly, he's going to be a bit frustrated at the pace of his training. It's not uncommon, for example, for eighteen year olds to be dying to head off to college to be able to be on their own for once. This is made worse by the fact that Palpatine clearly feeds Anakin's ego as much as possible. Also consider that, as of the beginning of AOTC, Anakin is already having dreams of his mother and getting little sleep -- which would be destabilizing. Add to that the fact that Padmé is in danger (and Anakin is seeing her again after a long separation) and we have someone who is not going to be making the best decisions with the greatest amount of tact. When he contradicts Obi-Wan in front of Padmé for example, I always got the impression that Anakin was so focused on Padmé that he didn't listen to a word Obi-Wan said, messed up, and then tried to save face. He's crushing pretty hard on Padmé so he's pretty embarrassed and defensive when he gets called on it. But I don't think he's intentionally trying to disrespect Obi-Wan. Rather, he's trying to impress Padmé and it blows up in his face. AOTC is all about Anakin getting knocked down a few pegs, really.

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*** I think Anakin's behaviour, behavior, although it can rub people the wrong way, makes a lot of sense when you look at it in the context of the film. He's nineteen, but he's never been on a mission by himself and it's clear he's saved Obi-Wan a few times. So, clearly, he's going to be a bit frustrated at the pace of his training. It's not uncommon, for example, for eighteen year olds to be dying to head off to college to be able to be on their own for once. This is made worse by the fact that Palpatine clearly feeds Anakin's ego as much as possible. Also consider that, as of the beginning of AOTC, Anakin is already having dreams of his mother and getting little sleep -- which would be destabilizing. Add to that the fact that Padmé is in danger (and Anakin is seeing her again after a long separation) and we have someone who is not going to be making the best decisions with the greatest amount of tact. When he contradicts Obi-Wan in front of Padmé for example, I always got the impression that Anakin was so focused on Padmé that he didn't listen to a word Obi-Wan said, messed up, and then tried to save face. He's crushing pretty hard on Padmé so he's pretty embarrassed and defensive when he gets called on it. But I don't think he's intentionally trying to disrespect Obi-Wan. Rather, he's trying to impress Padmé and it blows up in his face. AOTC is all about Anakin getting knocked down a few pegs, really.



** He's a bounty hunter. He has no skin in the affairs of either side. The Republic hires him to be the clone template. Then the Seperatists hire him to be a mercenary. His only loyalty is to himself and whomever pays him.

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** He's a bounty hunter. He has no skin in the affairs of either side. The Republic hires him to be the clone template. Then the Seperatists Separatists hire him to be a mercenary. His only loyalty is to himself and whomever pays him.



* Padme falls out of an aircraft that was travelling pretty fast. And yet she's completely uninjured?

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* Padme falls out of an aircraft that was travelling traveling pretty fast. And yet she's completely uninjured?



*** The Jedi are not suspicious of Palpatine until the 3rd film, after he is still in office despite his legal term being up (Yoda might be suspicious in this film, but it's more of a "something not right about this guy" sort of suspicion; nothing concrete). They realise at the end of the movie that a war between the Republic and the Separatists was exactly what the Sith wanted, but to what end they don't know. Palpatine might be the most obvious suspect, but without proof there is no reason to suspect him much more than anyone else (in the ''Legends'' novels it is mentioned that they think he might be a pawn), especially since they are regularly in meetings with him and they never once sense the Dark Side in him (a testament to his skill more than anything else). Basically, the Jedi ''do'' realise that they have been had, but they don't know the endgame now the mastermind and it doesn't matter since if they don't play along and fight the war with the Clone army, the Republic will just find different, less capable commanders and possibly the Separatists will slaughter everyone regardless. They ''have'' to fight this war, which hampers their freedom to investigate what is ''really'' going on. Plus as stated, for all they know the clone army was originally meant to be used by Dooku and they just got lucky, even if they doubt that is true.

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*** The Jedi are not suspicious of Palpatine until the 3rd film, after he is still in office despite his legal term being up (Yoda might be suspicious in this film, but it's more of a "something not right about this guy" sort of suspicion; nothing concrete). They realise realize at the end of the movie that a war between the Republic and the Separatists was exactly what the Sith wanted, but to what end they don't know. Palpatine might be the most obvious suspect, but without proof there is no reason to suspect him much more than anyone else (in the ''Legends'' novels it is mentioned that they think he might be a pawn), especially since they are regularly in meetings with him and they never once sense the Dark Side in him (a testament to his skill more than anything else). Basically, the Jedi ''do'' realise realize that they have been had, but they don't know the endgame now the mastermind and it doesn't matter since if they don't play along and fight the war with the Clone army, the Republic will just find different, less capable commanders and possibly the Separatists will slaughter everyone regardless. They ''have'' to fight this war, which hampers their freedom to investigate what is ''really'' going on. Plus as stated, for all they know the clone army was originally meant to be used by Dooku and they just got lucky, even if they doubt that is true.



** Kamino is more or less OUTSIDE the Star Wars Galaxy; if you read Star Wars Wiki, you'll see Kamino is basically shoved between the Star Wars Galaxy and a dwarf galaxy called Rishi Maze. They only developed a military program due to Jango Fett calling in a few contacts to train his clones. It's very likely that, like the Separatists leaders, they have little grasp on military strategy. They are, however, politically savy. They know the Republic is made of hundreds of systems and are defended by the Jedi, so they're being smart about their chances of defying a galaxy-spanning govermnent that is defended by WarriorMonks with supernatural powers, especially from a flooded planet with just a few cities. Kaminoans are also isolationist, so they don't want much to do with the rest of the universe, just profit. They're both minimalists and perfectionists. Considering the ViciousCycle of war in the main galaxy, they're being very smart (Especially since, once Order 66 came through, Sidious conquered Kamino).

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** Kamino is more or less OUTSIDE the Star Wars Galaxy; if you read Star Wars Wiki, you'll see Kamino is basically shoved between the Star Wars Galaxy and a dwarf galaxy called Rishi Maze. They only developed a military program due to Jango Fett calling in a few contacts to train his clones. It's very likely that, like the Separatists leaders, they have little grasp on military strategy. They are, however, politically savy. savvy. They know the Republic is made of hundreds of systems and are defended by the Jedi, so they're being smart about their chances of defying a galaxy-spanning govermnent government that is defended by WarriorMonks with supernatural powers, especially from a flooded planet with just a few cities. Kaminoans are also isolationist, so they don't want much to do with the rest of the universe, just profit. They're both minimalists and perfectionists. Considering the ViciousCycle of war in the main galaxy, they're being very smart (Especially since, once Order 66 came through, Sidious conquered Kamino).



** The senators and general public don't have much knowledge about the Force, so saying that it was ordered by a Jedi would be enough as long as the Order was trusted. People would just assume that they had sensed the need for an army. This could give Palpatine cover not just for the clone army's existence, but the entire war! Who ordered the army? A Jedi. Who assembled the Separatists? An ex-Jedi. Who tried to assassinate the Chancellor? The Jedi. He has the perfect scapegoat, enough to mislead enyone suspecting a conspiracy.

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** The senators and general public don't have much knowledge about the Force, so saying that it was ordered by a Jedi would be enough as long as the Order was trusted. People would just assume that they had sensed the need for an army. This could give Palpatine cover not just for the clone army's existence, but the entire war! Who ordered the army? A Jedi. Who assembled the Separatists? An ex-Jedi. Who tried to assassinate the Chancellor? The Jedi. He has the perfect scapegoat, enough to mislead enyone anyone suspecting a conspiracy.



* Mace loses his lightsaber while being chased by the Reek and Jango jumps on the ground knowing full well that Jedi can retrieve objects using the Force. Why? Lying flat on your stomach in a combat zone is one of the WORST tactical positions you could possibly be in so why would a renowned badass bount hunter do something so foolish? Why didn't Jango just shoot Mace before he picked up his lightsaber? He would have won since Windu wouldn't have been able to block the blaster bolt. The entire fight between Windu and Fett seems to be a huge case of WhatAnIdiot on Jango's part.

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* Mace loses his lightsaber while being chased by the Reek and Jango jumps on the ground knowing full well that Jedi can retrieve objects using the Force. Why? Lying flat on your stomach in a combat zone is one of the WORST tactical positions you could possibly be in so why would a renowned badass bount bounty hunter do something so foolish? Why didn't Jango just shoot Mace before he picked up his lightsaber? He would have won since Windu wouldn't have been able to block the blaster bolt. The entire fight between Windu and Fett seems to be a huge case of WhatAnIdiot on Jango's part.



* Why did Mace Windu, after hearing from Obi-Wan's transmission from Geonosis that the Trade Federation & several other entities of the CIS were to pick up a DROID ARMY, why did he still go ahead with sending over 200 jedi?

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* Why did Mace Windu, after hearing from Obi-Wan's transmission from Geonosis that the Trade Federation & several other entities of the CIS were to pick up a DROID ARMY, why did he still go ahead with sending over 200 jedi?Jedi?



** Before the introduction of purposely organised Spec Ops divisions in the Clone Army, the Jedi had to serve as the advance-recon force, space police or soldiers it matters not. If Mace hadn't deployed the majority of the Jedi inside the arena, the Geneosians could have easily just swarmed the hostages and ripped them limb from limb. He needed an equaliser to buy time until the real army showed up.

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** Before the introduction of purposely organised organized Spec Ops divisions in the Clone Army, the Jedi had to serve as the advance-recon force, space police or soldiers it matters not. If Mace hadn't deployed the majority of the Jedi inside the arena, the Geneosians could have easily just swarmed the hostages and ripped them limb from limb. He needed an equaliser equalizer to buy time until the real army showed up.



*** That was Chancellor Valorum, not the Jedi Order, who sent Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to Naboo to handle the Trade Federation blockade, which didn't even became an invasion till later on. The tradition of not forming deep attachment or mourning does not mean the Jedi should not rescue senators and Jedi in a hostage situation. After all, Obi-Wan, Padme, and Anakin are quite important figures for the Galactic Republic and the Jedi Order; at the very least Padme is a fairly influential politician and Anakin is considered to be the ChosenOne. Not to mention it's not simply to rescue the hostages, but also to stop the Seperatists from launching the Clone Wars.

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*** That was Chancellor Valorum, not the Jedi Order, who sent Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to Naboo to handle the Trade Federation blockade, which didn't even became an invasion till later on. The tradition of not forming deep attachment or mourning does not mean the Jedi should not rescue senators and Jedi in a hostage situation. After all, Obi-Wan, Padme, and Anakin are quite important figures for the Galactic Republic and the Jedi Order; at the very least Padme is a fairly influential politician and Anakin is considered to be the ChosenOne. Not to mention it's not simply to rescue the hostages, but also to stop the Seperatists Separatists from launching the Clone Wars.



*** Jango wanted to continue his genepool, but was narcisistic enough to want an exact copy, no other woman's genes to dirty the pool. Besides, it's not like Jango was settling down and teaching his son T-ball or something; he was making his son to be as badass as he is, something very in character for a Mandalorian.

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*** Jango wanted to continue his genepool, gene pool, but was narcisistic narcissistic enough to want an exact copy, no other woman's genes to dirty the pool. Besides, it's not like Jango was settling down and teaching his son T-ball or something; he was making his son to be as badass as he is, something very in character for a Mandalorian.Mandalorian.
*** According to the Bounty Hunter game, it wasn't so much narcissism that inspired it as much as it was a realization that, with the kind of life he lives, settling down and finding a girl is out of the question.



* RunningBothSides can be advantageous but was Palpatine's strategy to give the Republic the overall dominance in the war effort? The Separatists seem meaningless to his long-term game (since they're casually murdered as disposable liabilities once he consolidates his Imperial power), only there to act as the catalyst to encourage the Senate to turn over its power to him. But what if they were actually able to strike a decisive advantage against the Republic? Even if Darth Sidious and Dooku were the ones calling the shots, they would have to engineer the war effort to hide their true intention (i.e. actually take advantages when they present themselves and wound the Republic) and if the Separatists exploited a weak spot in the Republic that helped push them to win the war and capture Courscant, Palpatine would be squeezed because there's no way he would be able to convince them as sitting Supreme Chancellor he should be spared once they occupied the capital (and Dooku would have to play along lest he also be tried for treason by the Separatists).

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* RunningBothSides can be advantageous but was Palpatine's strategy to give the Republic the overall dominance in the war effort? The Separatists seem meaningless to his long-term game (since they're casually murdered as disposable liabilities once he consolidates his Imperial power), only there to act as the catalyst to encourage the Senate to turn over its power to him. But what if they were actually able to strike a decisive advantage against the Republic? Even if Darth Sidious and Dooku were the ones calling the shots, they would have to engineer the war effort to hide their true intention (i.e. actually take advantages when they present themselves and wound the Republic) and if the Separatists exploited a weak spot in the Republic that helped push them to win the war and capture Courscant, Coruscant, Palpatine would be squeezed because there's no way he would be able to convince them as sitting Supreme Chancellor he should be spared once they occupied the capital (and Dooku would have to play along lest he also be tried for treason by the Separatists).



** 2) And this is the big one; ''how in the hell does Owen not remember Threepio''? It's never stated how long Shmi lived on the Lars homestead, but it must have been at least a few years, given that it was long enough for her and Clegg to fall in love and get married. So presumably Threepio would have been hanging around for several years of Owen's childhood. Given that, how is it that when he buys Threepio from the Jawas twenty years later, he doesn't even give the slightest blink of recognition when Threepio introduces himself? Did Owen get mindwiped too?

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** 2) And this is the big one; ''how in the hell does Owen not remember Threepio''? It's never stated how long Shmi lived on the Lars homestead, but it must have been at least a few years, given that it was long enough for her and Clegg to fall in love and get married. So presumably Threepio would have been hanging around for several years of Owen's childhood. Given that, how is it that when he buys Threepio from the Jawas twenty years later, he doesn't even give the slightest blink of recognition when Threepio introduces himself? Did Owen get mindwiped mind wiped too?
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