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1st Jan '17 6:26:51 PM Brandon
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* "I wonder what happened to poor little R2. He's always getting himself into trouble." Why would C-3PO say such a thing when he ''barely'' knows R2 at all, and has not once seem R2 get himself into trouble?

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* "I wonder what happened to poor little R2. He's always getting himself into trouble." Why would C-3PO say such a thing when he ''barely'' knows R2 at all, and has not once seem seen R2 get himself into trouble?
1st Jan '17 6:26:30 PM Brandon
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* "I wonder what happened to poor little R2. He's always getting himself into trouble." Why would C-3PO say such a thing when he ''barely'' knows R@ at all, and has not once seem R2 get himself into trouble?

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* "I wonder what happened to poor little R2. He's always getting himself into trouble." Why would C-3PO say such a thing when he ''barely'' knows R@ R2 at all, and has not once seem R2 get himself into trouble?
1st Jan '17 6:26:02 PM Brandon
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** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabers are already personally built, so it's not like he can't make a new one.

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** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabers are already personally built, so it's not like he can't make a new one.one.

* "I wonder what happened to poor little R2. He's always getting himself into trouble." Why would C-3PO say such a thing when he ''barely'' knows R@ at all, and has not once seem R2 get himself into trouble?
25th Dec '16 10:32:15 AM costanton11
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** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabres are already personally built, so it's not like he can't make a new one.

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** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabres lightsabers are already personally built, so it's not like he can't make a new one.
24th Dec '16 1:37:02 PM Peteman
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** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabres are already personally built.

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** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabres are already personally built.built, so it's not like he can't make a new one.
24th Dec '16 1:34:42 PM Peteman
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* This isn't a plothole question but what purpose does Count Dooku's lightsaber being curved serve in combat?

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* This isn't a plothole question but what purpose does Count Dooku's lightsaber being curved serve in combat?combat?
** Well, in the old Legends lore, it allowed for an advanced user (Dooku being considered either the best duelist or one of them) to be able to pull tricks that would be difficult for a less experienced fighter to account for or pull off (somewhat minor tricks, but when you're in a duel to the death, a minor advantage can quickly spiral into an overwhelming one if you're one of the top duelists in the galaxy). Another possibility is ergonomics. Dooku might simply find the handle more comfortable as a personal preference. He's incredibly rich due to being a noble and lightsabres are already personally built.
24th Dec '16 1:26:33 PM Totin0sthepizzaB0y
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** "The Separatists have made a pact with the Trade Federation," is basically the point he was making with that phrase. Padme herself earlier says that, if it comes to war, the Separatists will likely turn to the trade federations and commerce guilds for help (since, apparently, they all have standing droid armies or somesuch). So Jar-Jar is pointing out that this has, in fact, happened, and now the Separatists, dismissed as "political idealists," have the capability to employ military force against the Republic, which has no military at all. Thus, the Senate needs to give Palpatine Emergency Powers so he can raise an army ''right now'' to keep the Separatists from curb-stomping the Republic.

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** "The Separatists have made a pact with the Trade Federation," is basically the point he was making with that phrase. Padme herself earlier says that, if it comes to war, the Separatists will likely turn to the trade federations and commerce guilds for help (since, apparently, they all have standing droid armies or somesuch). So Jar-Jar is pointing out that this has, in fact, happened, and now the Separatists, dismissed as "political idealists," have the capability to employ military force against the Republic, which has no military at all. Thus, the Senate needs to give Palpatine Emergency Powers so he can raise an army ''right now'' to keep the Separatists from curb-stomping the Republic.Republic.

* This isn't a plothole question but what purpose does Count Dooku's lightsaber being curved serve in combat?
22nd Dec '16 9:11:26 AM ErikModi
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** We also don't hear Jar Jar's entire speech so he might have said more about the Separatists' plans.

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** We also don't hear Jar Jar's entire speech so he might have said more about the Separatists' plans.plans.
** "The Separatists have made a pact with the Trade Federation," is basically the point he was making with that phrase. Padme herself earlier says that, if it comes to war, the Separatists will likely turn to the trade federations and commerce guilds for help (since, apparently, they all have standing droid armies or somesuch). So Jar-Jar is pointing out that this has, in fact, happened, and now the Separatists, dismissed as "political idealists," have the capability to employ military force against the Republic, which has no military at all. Thus, the Senate needs to give Palpatine Emergency Powers so he can raise an army ''right now'' to keep the Separatists from curb-stomping the Republic.
22nd Dec '16 9:07:12 AM ErikModi
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** The [=OPs=] statement is ''exactly what Palpatine wanted to happen.'' He wanted the Jedi at the forefront of the war, where they would be killed in battle/fall to the dark side, or even just lose critical engagements to sour public opinion of them, and isolate them from fellow Jedi making it easier for them to be swept up when Order 66 was issued. The entire Clone Wars was nothing more or less than Palpatine's "Final Solution" for "The Jedi Problem." And the Jedi went along with it because they ''had'' to. They are guardians of the peace, and that peace is threatened by the Separatists declaring war on the Republic, so they ''have'' to go out and fight to protect the lives of the innocent civilians who will inevitably be caught in the crossfire, to say nothing of trying to actually preserve the Republic. To say nothing of the fact that, after Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda confront Dooku, they know the Confederacy is being manipulated by the Sith, and the only way for them to learn more is to fight back against them (and, being led by the Sith, the Confederacy represents the Dark Side, and fighting the Dark Side is pretty much the Jedi's ''raison d'etre''). If the Jedi sit out the war, they let death and suffering propagate without doing anything to stop it, and let the Sith act unchecked. If they fight in the war, they risk their own lives and falling to the Dark Side themselves. Once again, Palpatine maneuvered the entire Jedi Order into a no-win situation.
22nd Dec '16 8:59:06 AM ErikModi
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*** And even if Owen ''did'' recognize Threepio, he'd have ''no'' reason to say anything, and ''every'' reason not to. He doesn't want Luke to know anything about who Anakin Skywalker really was, who Darth Vader really is, or anything that might give Luke cause to go of with "Old Obi-Wan on some damn fool idealistic crusade" and get killed/turned to the Dark Side. In fact, when Owen tells Luke to take the droids into Anchorhead and have their memories erased, it may have been not just because they'd suddenly mentioned Obi-Wan Kenobi to Luke. . . it may have been because Owen was starting to get suspicious about this protocol droid and his blue-hued astromech counterpart suddenly turning up on his doorstep, stirring up things better left (in Owen's mind) forgotten.
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