History Headscratchers / Arrow

20th Nov '17 6:50:03 AM Forenperser
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** During the 'Legends' crossover in Season 4, he was said to be 10. That would make him around 12 at the start of Season 6.[[/folder]]

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** During the 'Legends' crossover in Season 4, he was said to be 10. That would make him around 12 at the start of Season 6.[[/folder]]

[[folder: How could Oliver possibly think anybody would buy the 'John is Green Arrow' charade?]]
* I mean really, the Green Arrow has been seen in public several times, he even spoke to officials quite often. How could he possibly think that nobody would notice he is suddenly a black guy instead of a white guy?
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16th Oct '17 10:52:25 AM Tsar673
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Okay, we know that he was conceived sometime before Oliver went on the Queen's Gambit, which makes him at least ten years old at this point. In Season 4, he was playing with action figures, and the way that other characters talk to him and his dialogue makes him sound young, like 6-8. ("The bad man"????) However, his actor looks closer to 12.[[/folder]]

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Okay, we know that he was conceived sometime before Oliver went on the Queen's Gambit, which makes him at least ten years old at this point. In Season 4, he was playing with action figures, and the way that other characters talk to him and his dialogue makes him sound young, like 6-8. ("The bad man"????) However, his actor looks closer to 12.12.
** During the 'Legends' crossover in Season 4, he was said to be 10. That would make him around 12 at the start of Season 6.
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14th Oct '17 6:55:49 PM StarryEyed
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Okay, we know that he was conceived sometime before Oliver went on the Queen's Gambit, which makes him at least ten years old at this point. In Season 4, he was playing with action figures, and the way that other characters talk to him and his dialogue makes him sound young, like 6-8. ("The bad man"????) However, his actor looks closer to 12.

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Okay, we know that he was conceived sometime before Oliver went on the Queen's Gambit, which makes him at least ten years old at this point. In Season 4, he was playing with action figures, and the way that other characters talk to him and his dialogue makes him sound young, like 6-8. ("The bad man"????) However, his actor looks closer to 12.[[/folder]]
14th Oct '17 6:55:24 PM StarryEyed
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[[folder: How old is William supposed to be???]]
Okay, we know that he was conceived sometime before Oliver went on the Queen's Gambit, which makes him at least ten years old at this point. In Season 4, he was playing with action figures, and the way that other characters talk to him and his dialogue makes him sound young, like 6-8. ("The bad man"????) However, his actor looks closer to 12.
24th Sep '17 6:50:31 PM thistledown
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** Going with the above location for Star City, San Quentin state prison is right across the bay and looks an awful lot like the establishing shots for Iron Heights.
24th Sep '17 6:45:11 PM thistledown
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** I always assumed it was near Seattle, but episode 5/22 reveals that Star City is roughly where San Francisco, CA should be. There's no other text on the map, and the bay itself is absent or covered by the text, but Point Reyes, Monterey Bay, and the Lompoc / Santa Barbara curve to the California coastline are easy to recognize. 36 minutes in. This puts it 635 miles from Portland, OR - not a bad choice for Central City.



** I always assumed it was near Seattle as well, but episode 5/22 reveals that Star City is roughly where San Francisco should be. There's no other text on the map, and the bay itself is absent or covered by the text, but Point Reyes, Monterey Bay, and the Lompoc / Santa Barbara curve to the California coastline are easy to recognize. 36 minutes in.
24th Sep '17 6:40:33 PM thistledown
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** I always assumed it was near Seattle as well, but episode 5/22 reveals that Star City is roughly where San Francisco should be. There's no other text on the map, and the bay itself is absent or covered by the text, but Point Reyes, Monterey Bay, and the Lompoc / Santa Barbara curve to the California coastline are easy to recognize. 36 minutes in.
12th Jul '17 10:57:20 AM Tsar673
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** Who's to say they didn't notice Slade? Its entirely possible that at some point ASIS noticed that this 'Deathstroke' guy traveling the globe killing people was probably a former operative of theirs - either Slade or Wintergreen. And its entirely possible that they decided to just ignore him as long as he wasn't a direct problem for them. Remember, Slade was probably a black ops agent carrying out highly sensitive missions. If an asset like him goes rogue, its probably best to deny his existence. What does ASIS have to gain from, say, going to ARGUS with intel on Deathstroke's possible true identity and getting involved?
27th Jun '17 11:34:26 AM TooManyIdeasInMyHead
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** I'm not certain how it actually works, but I've always classified bail as how much money you need to pay to get someone out, no matter what, so basically all law enforcement can do is put it up high, depending on your crime. As for attacking Chase and the police officers, they could bullshit about how [[BlatantLies they knew he was Prometheus, and were trying to get justice but the police officers got in their way.]] I don't really know, but that's what I come up with.
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[[folder:The ASIS are idiots]]
* OK, so I've been recently rewatching Season 1, and I'm currently on "Betrayal", the episode where Slade reveals how Wintergreen and him were part of the Australian Secret Inteligence Service, and their masks are the ASIS classified operation equivalent of a balaclava to hide their identities. I thought about this for about 15 seconds before I started asking questions, and then it started growing: '''''How the hell have they not noticed Slade???''''' They clearly know about Lian Yu, as they sent Slade and Wintergreen there to rescue Yao Fei, but they were crashed down. Fair enough, and I don't know how long Slade was on the island or how Intelligince Services work, but shouldn't they have tried to mount a rescue mission at some point? And if they did, which would have to be around 2009-2012 because Slide wasn't there, ''how did they not notice Slade's tattered mask on the post?'' Furthermore, we know that for at least a few years, Slade was a mercenary, and dangerous/profilic enough for him to be on ARGUS's Most Dangerous list, so how did A. The ASIS ''not'' know about the mercenary who had an extensive skill set, and wore a mask that looked ''almost exactly like their balaclavas'', and B. Why didn't Waller, or ''anyone'' else at ARGUS notice that either? And most damnably, the Siege. While we don't know if there was any international knowledge on what was going on, but if ARGUS was involved, ''someone'' would have to notice, and if the ASIS had any idea of what was going on, or the Australian government, or anyone else with enough resources really, a huge group of people who were super strong and were tearing up a city, ''blatantly wearing the ASIS's masks,'' '''you'd think someone would ask some questions about what the hell is going on.'''
21st Jun '17 1:24:08 PM Arrowhead
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** At the moment, probably the board of directors and that Simon fellow who informed Felicity she'd been forced out as CEO are running things. However, Oliver and Felicity probably still own Palmer Technologies outright. You'll remember that Isabel Rochev forced a hostile takeover at the end of Season 2. Logically, Ollie should still own that part of the company since that couldn't legally be taken from him and he used that to make a bid for the company at the start of Season 3. That was when Ray Palmer came in, bought up the rest of the stock and changed the name to Palmer Technologies. He then signed the ownership over to Felicity. Regardless of whether or not she's the CEO, she should still own everything.


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** Re: Why didn't Ollie call Roy? Time was of the essence and Roy's resources are relatively limited. Even if Ollie could easily get a hold of Roy on a day's notice, Roy probably couldn't drop everything without drawing suspicion and get to Star City in time. Last we saw Roy, he was eking out a simple existence as a mechanic and not staying at any one shop for too long. Depending on where he was, he could be several days driving from Star City and - given his lack of proper ID and the intense security involved - he couldn't very well fly to Star City.
** Re: Why didn't Adrian kidnap Roy? Adrian may have taken the story about Roy dying in prison at face value and not bothered to investigate further. Additionally, there might not have been a paper trail at ARGUS tracking Roy like there was with William. Ollie would have wanted someone keeping tabs on his son, even if he had no idea where he was. Roy, by contrast, could look after himself.
** Re: Roy getting a pardon. There is almost literally no good that could come from doing this. Remember that the main reason Roy is in hiding is that the world at large thinks Roy Harper is dead thanks to the incident in prison where they faked his death. While ARGUS probably could come up with some story about him being a deep-cover agent, there is literally no reason for them to do so. It hardly profits them to admit to having employed a vigilante in any capacity. It makes even less sense for Ollie to try and use his position as mayor to offer a pardon to a dead man, so he could come out of hiding - a dead man who confessed to being The Arrow to clear Oliver Queen and... oh wait, doesn't that seem suspicious?
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