History Headscratchers / Arrow

12th Jul '17 10:57:20 AM Tsar673
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** Who's to say they didn't notice Slade? Its entirely possible that at some point ASIS noticed that this 'Deathstroke' guy traveling the globe killing people was probably a former operative of theirs - either Slade or Wintergreen. And its entirely possible that they decided to just ignore him as long as he wasn't a direct problem for them. Remember, Slade was probably a black ops agent carrying out highly sensitive missions. If an asset like him goes rogue, its probably best to deny his existence. What does ASIS have to gain from, say, going to ARGUS with intel on Deathstroke's possible true identity and getting involved?
27th Jun '17 11:34:26 AM TooManyIdeasInMyHead
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** I'm not certain how it actually works, but I've always classified bail as how much money you need to pay to get someone out, no matter what, so basically all law enforcement can do is put it up high, depending on your crime. As for attacking Chase and the police officers, they could bullshit about how [[BlatantLies they knew he was Prometheus, and were trying to get justice but the police officers got in their way.]] I don't really know, but that's what I come up with.
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[[folder:The ASIS are idiots]]
* OK, so I've been recently rewatching Season 1, and I'm currently on "Betrayal", the episode where Slade reveals how Wintergreen and him were part of the Australian Secret Inteligence Service, and their masks are the ASIS classified operation equivalent of a balaclava to hide their identities. I thought about this for about 15 seconds before I started asking questions, and then it started growing: '''''How the hell have they not noticed Slade???''''' They clearly know about Lian Yu, as they sent Slade and Wintergreen there to rescue Yao Fei, but they were crashed down. Fair enough, and I don't know how long Slade was on the island or how Intelligince Services work, but shouldn't they have tried to mount a rescue mission at some point? And if they did, which would have to be around 2009-2012 because Slide wasn't there, ''how did they not notice Slade's tattered mask on the post?'' Furthermore, we know that for at least a few years, Slade was a mercenary, and dangerous/profilic enough for him to be on ARGUS's Most Dangerous list, so how did A. The ASIS ''not'' know about the mercenary who had an extensive skill set, and wore a mask that looked ''almost exactly like their balaclavas'', and B. Why didn't Waller, or ''anyone'' else at ARGUS notice that either? And most damnably, the Siege. While we don't know if there was any international knowledge on what was going on, but if ARGUS was involved, ''someone'' would have to notice, and if the ASIS had any idea of what was going on, or the Australian government, or anyone else with enough resources really, a huge group of people who were super strong and were tearing up a city, ''blatantly wearing the ASIS's masks,'' '''you'd think someone would ask some questions about what the hell is going on.'''
21st Jun '17 1:24:08 PM Arrowhead
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** At the moment, probably the board of directors and that Simon fellow who informed Felicity she'd been forced out as CEO are running things. However, Oliver and Felicity probably still own Palmer Technologies outright. You'll remember that Isabel Rochev forced a hostile takeover at the end of Season 2. Logically, Ollie should still own that part of the company since that couldn't legally be taken from him and he used that to make a bid for the company at the start of Season 3. That was when Ray Palmer came in, bought up the rest of the stock and changed the name to Palmer Technologies. He then signed the ownership over to Felicity. Regardless of whether or not she's the CEO, she should still own everything.


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** Re: Why didn't Ollie call Roy? Time was of the essence and Roy's resources are relatively limited. Even if Ollie could easily get a hold of Roy on a day's notice, Roy probably couldn't drop everything without drawing suspicion and get to Star City in time. Last we saw Roy, he was eking out a simple existence as a mechanic and not staying at any one shop for too long. Depending on where he was, he could be several days driving from Star City and - given his lack of proper ID and the intense security involved - he couldn't very well fly to Star City.
** Re: Why didn't Adrian kidnap Roy? Adrian may have taken the story about Roy dying in prison at face value and not bothered to investigate further. Additionally, there might not have been a paper trail at ARGUS tracking Roy like there was with William. Ollie would have wanted someone keeping tabs on his son, even if he had no idea where he was. Roy, by contrast, could look after himself.
** Re: Roy getting a pardon. There is almost literally no good that could come from doing this. Remember that the main reason Roy is in hiding is that the world at large thinks Roy Harper is dead thanks to the incident in prison where they faked his death. While ARGUS probably could come up with some story about him being a deep-cover agent, there is literally no reason for them to do so. It hardly profits them to admit to having employed a vigilante in any capacity. It makes even less sense for Ollie to try and use his position as mayor to offer a pardon to a dead man, so he could come out of hiding - a dead man who confessed to being The Arrow to clear Oliver Queen and... oh wait, doesn't that seem suspicious?
18th Jun '17 12:30:40 PM Forenperser
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[[folder:How did Anatoly get his men out on bail?]]
* Really, one half assaulted several police officers on duty and the DA (they didn't know yet he was Prometheus) with freaking Assault Rifles, absolutely willing to kill them, and the other half took dozens of hostages. How was Anatoly not arrested too when he bailed them out and who on Earth would agree to this?
16th Jun '17 1:20:27 PM TooManyIdeasInMyHead
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** Dare you when the next celebrity or someone equally as famous is followed on the news to be able to see/know their driver/bodyguard.


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* This all becomes extremely egregious when you remember back in Season 1 (I think, it's been a while but I know it was in the beginning of/before 2) that Dinah, Quentin's ex-wife and Sara and Laurel's mother, admitted that she had ''seen'' Sara packing to go on the Gambit, ''knew'' that she was going on it...and let her, allowing her to go and cheat on her sister's boyfriend. Yet Quentin still blames Oliver. Is this ever going to get picked up on?


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** Considering that the Chinese government banished Yao Fei to it, clearly it's basically a dead mans zone that only governments and some fishermen know about.


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[[folder:Roy's Suspicious Absence]]
* Alright, so I understand that they can't get Colton Hayes back on the show, but is there any In-Universe explanation for Roy never showing up again, aside from him being in hiding? I mean, when Oliver was recruiting Malcolm, Slade, and Harkness(All a bunch of terrorists on his side, and aside from Slade, untrustworthy bastards) it never occurred to him to get Roy, someone he knows is capable and trustworthy, to fight too? Oliver and Thea's conversation in 5x20 implies that they know where he is/are in contact with him, so not being able to reach him isn't a good excuse. Also, why didn't Adrian try to capture him? If he could find out wherever William was, he should be able to find Roy easily. Finally, why has it never occurred anyone to try and get Roy's name cleared? Oliver's the Mayor, and Lyla runs a government agency, so it should be pretty freaking easy to go "Hey, let's give Roy a pardon so he doesn't have to constantly hide anymore?"
16th Jun '17 11:54:47 AM PhantomRider
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[[folder:Who's minding the store?]]
*So, the company goes to from the Queens to Ray... who goes off to the Legends. Then to Felicity... who gets the boot for prioritizing the fight with Damien Darhk over the company. (Not that they knew what she was up to, of course.) The question is, who's running it now? We know it's back under the Queen name at ''some'' point in the future thanks to Eobard Thawne's future newspaper over in "The Flash," though...
15th Jun '17 3:52:27 PM Zibmaster
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[[folder:How Did did Felicity Not Get Tossed In Prison By Argus?]]not get tossed in prison by ARGUS?]]
15th Jun '17 3:49:59 PM Zibmaster
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[[folder:How Did Felicity Not Get Tossed In Prison By Argus?]]
*Even with the fact that ARGUS was holding Cayden in an illegal black site, how is it possible Lyla hasn't had Felicity scooped off the street and thrown in an ARGUS prison cell? Even if she would want to cover it up for Diggle's sake or similar, I can't see the U.S. government just shrugging and saying oh well to all the crimes she commited that night.
8th Jun '17 2:05:00 PM hunter139
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* I mean for real. Oliver is quite the star in Star(ling) City (heh), so after he came back from the dead and claimed to have spent 5 years on that island, how come nobody EVER investigated this? I mean I can buy Oliver staying undetected in Hong Kong and Russia, but SOMEBODY, press, bloggers or whatever else, must have been curious enough to check this place out at which point Oliver would have gotten under police ivnestigation. After Fyers, Ivo, Reiter and Kovar and all their men, there must be ''well'' over 100 dead bodies on this island, along with destroyed military hardware, crashed helicopters/planes, a wrecked american ship etc. How could all this have stayed undetected for so long?

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* I mean for real. Oliver is quite the star in Star(ling) City (heh), so after he came back from the dead and claimed to have spent 5 years on that island, how come nobody EVER investigated this? I mean I can buy Oliver staying undetected in Hong Kong and Russia, but SOMEBODY, press, bloggers or whatever else, must have been curious enough to check this place out at which point Oliver would have gotten under police ivnestigation.investigation. After Fyers, Ivo, Reiter and Kovar and all their men, there must be ''well'' over 100 dead bodies on this island, along with destroyed military hardware, crashed helicopters/planes, a wrecked american ship etc. How could all this have stayed undetected for so long?long?
** Well obviously it hasn't: considering ARGUS has a compound/prison on the island, it's likely that anyone who tried to investigate (unless they're someone exceptionally skilled and connected like Chase) was ordered to leave immediately.
8th Jun '17 10:30:20 AM Forenperser
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[[folder:How come nobody ever investigated the Lian Yu story?]]
* I mean for real. Oliver is quite the star in Star(ling) City (heh), so after he came back from the dead and claimed to have spent 5 years on that island, how come nobody EVER investigated this? I mean I can buy Oliver staying undetected in Hong Kong and Russia, but SOMEBODY, press, bloggers or whatever else, must have been curious enough to check this place out at which point Oliver would have gotten under police ivnestigation. After Fyers, Ivo, Reiter and Kovar and all their men, there must be ''well'' over 100 dead bodies on this island, along with destroyed military hardware, crashed helicopters/planes, a wrecked american ship etc. How could all this have stayed undetected for so long?
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