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19th Nov '15 1:39:29 PM yoshidrgn
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** Sonic and Eggman remember, albeit hazily, the events of ''Worlds Collide'' thanks to the Super Genesis Wave and the effects of Eggman messing up Sonic's attempt to fix it (though because of the rewriting of the multiverse ''Worlds Collide'' happened shortly after and because of the events of ''Sonic Generations'' instead of how we saw it happen). Everything before that is completely gone from their memories now, so they don't remember Scourge, Tommy Turtle, Mogul, or anyone or anything else of the previous era.

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** Sonic and Eggman remember, albeit hazily, the events of ''Worlds Collide'' thanks to the Super Genesis Wave and the effects of Eggman messing up Sonic's attempt to fix it (though because of the rewriting of the multiverse ''Worlds Collide'' happened shortly after and because of the events of ''Sonic Generations'' instead of how we saw it happen). Everything before that is completely gone from their memories now, so they don't remember Scourge, Tommy Turtle, Mogul, or anyone or anything else of the previous era.
*Now that the super genisis wave has effectively made most the games canon and established that their events happened almost identically in the comics, I was wondering if the non-game characters were involved in any of them. Breezie, scratch, Grounder, and coconuts are shown to have been present for Sonic 2 (8-bit) and that snively was piloting the main EggRobo in Sonic 3 but what about the rest? It's established in the new timeline that Bunnie and Antoine were not present at Perfect Chaos' attack, but what about the other games? Were Sally, Antoine, Bunnie, and Rotor with Sonic aboard the Ark? Did they go Solleanna in the doomed timeline of 06? Were they helping Sonic Tails and Knuckles in Heroes? It seems odd that they would not be involved at all in any of these events, but is there anything that actually says they were there?
13th Oct '15 9:25:19 PM TheDoomSong
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* So does anybody remember the Pre-Super Genesis Wave timeline at all? People were saying something about the memories fading away, yet I see a page where Tails is saying "but you'll remember, right Sonic?" Or something among those lines.

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* So does anybody remember the Pre-Super Genesis Wave timeline at all? People were saying something about the memories fading away, yet I see a page where Tails is saying "but you'll remember, right Sonic?" Or something among those lines.lines.
** Sonic and Eggman remember, albeit hazily, the events of ''Worlds Collide'' thanks to the Super Genesis Wave and the effects of Eggman messing up Sonic's attempt to fix it (though because of the rewriting of the multiverse ''Worlds Collide'' happened shortly after and because of the events of ''Sonic Generations'' instead of how we saw it happen). Everything before that is completely gone from their memories now, so they don't remember Scourge, Tommy Turtle, Mogul, or anyone or anything else of the previous era.
29th Aug '15 9:47:14 AM Fleet
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*** ...Well, to answer the above, it apparently looks like Penders is raising enough of a stink that he "created the basic idea for the character" that (for now at least), Scourge looks to be removed, apparently due to the settlement/threat of another suit/''yet another'' SEGA mandate saying no more alternate versions of Sonic is making Archie wary enough to cut their losses with him too. At this point it looks like the only other characters made by the other authors that are gone are those explicitly stated to be relatives of the game characters

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*** ...Well, to answer the above, it apparently looks like Penders is raising enough of a stink that he "created the basic idea for the character" that (for now at least), Scourge looks to be removed, apparently due to the settlement/threat of another suit/''yet another'' SEGA mandate saying no more alternate versions of Sonic is making Archie wary enough to cut their losses with him too. At this point it looks like the only other characters made by the other authors that are gone are those explicitly stated to be relatives of the game characterscharacters
* So does anybody remember the Pre-Super Genesis Wave timeline at all? People were saying something about the memories fading away, yet I see a page where Tails is saying "but you'll remember, right Sonic?" Or something among those lines.
15th Jan '15 9:06:31 AM yunatwilight
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** All we know is that it's a sausage-shaped food eaten in a bun and covered with some kind of sauce that involves tomatoes, beans, and peppers. They could really be anything.
14th Aug '14 9:07:22 PM MMTrigger
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*** ...Well, to answer the above, it apparently looks like Penders is raising enough of a stink that he "created the basic idea for the character" that (for now at least), Scourge looks to be removed, apparently due to the settlement/threat of another suit/''yet another'' SEGA mandate saying no more alternate versions of Sonic is making Archie wary enough to cut their losses with him too. As for Karl, he's made no statements, but his characters are at least still not ''confirmed'' to be gone. If Hope Kintobor/Robotnik is mentioned by the end of Shadowfall, then it'll appear his characters & concepts are still fair game.
* This is kind of a weird meta question, but in issue #256, when NICOLE say that the entire multiverse collapsed, how can that be? I mean, the main SEGA continuity is still kicking, right? So's the SATAM, Sonic X, Sonic Boom, et cetera, right? Those are all "alternate universes" that contain Sonic characters, so can NICOLE just not detect them?

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*** ...Well, to answer the above, it apparently looks like Penders is raising enough of a stink that he "created the basic idea for the character" that (for now at least), Scourge looks to be removed, apparently due to the settlement/threat of another suit/''yet another'' SEGA mandate saying no more alternate versions of Sonic is making Archie wary enough to cut their losses with him too. As for Karl, he's made no statements, but his At this point it looks like the only other characters are at least still not ''confirmed'' to be gone. If Hope Kintobor/Robotnik is mentioned made by the end of Shadowfall, then it'll appear his characters & concepts are still fair game.
* This is kind of a weird meta question, but in issue #256, when NICOLE say
other authors that are gone are those explicitly stated to be relatives of the entire multiverse collapsed, how can that be? I mean, the main SEGA continuity is still kicking, right? So's the SATAM, Sonic X, Sonic Boom, et cetera, right? Those are all "alternate universes" that contain Sonic characters, so can NICOLE just not detect them?game characters
12th Aug '14 6:43:59 PM HeinousActsZX
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*** ...Well, to answer the above, it apparently looks like Penders is raising enough of a stink that he "created the basic idea for the character" that (for now at least), Scourge looks to be removed, apparently due to the settlement/threat of another suit/''yet another'' SEGA mandate saying no more alternate versions of Sonic is making Archie wary enough to cut their losses with him too. As for Karl, he's made no statements, but his characters are at least still not ''confirmed'' to be gone. If Hope Kintobor/Robotnik is mentioned by the end of Shadowfall, then it'll appear his characters & concepts are still fair game.

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*** ...Well, to answer the above, it apparently looks like Penders is raising enough of a stink that he "created the basic idea for the character" that (for now at least), Scourge looks to be removed, apparently due to the settlement/threat of another suit/''yet another'' SEGA mandate saying no more alternate versions of Sonic is making Archie wary enough to cut their losses with him too. As for Karl, he's made no statements, but his characters are at least still not ''confirmed'' to be gone. If Hope Kintobor/Robotnik is mentioned by the end of Shadowfall, then it'll appear his characters & concepts are still fair game.game.
* This is kind of a weird meta question, but in issue #256, when NICOLE say that the entire multiverse collapsed, how can that be? I mean, the main SEGA continuity is still kicking, right? So's the SATAM, Sonic X, Sonic Boom, et cetera, right? Those are all "alternate universes" that contain Sonic characters, so can NICOLE just not detect them?
22nd Jul '14 7:43:12 AM TheDoomSong
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**** Confirmed. Everything that's not the games, ''Sat AM'', ''Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog'', and Ian Flynn's original characters not based on material from previous writers are gone, along with their storylines and influence.
13th Jun '14 10:50:16 PM MagiMecha
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*** There may be some good news Scourge-wise: Scourge was used on the cover for the upcoming third collection of ''The Best of Sonic the Hedgehog'' and the cover to the "Scourge: Lockdown" storyline from ''Sonic Universe'' still bears the green-quilled hedgehog AND the unaltered title. This is different from, say, the cover to the ''Sonic Saga Series'' collection of "Enerjak Reborn", which had to be retitled "Evil Reborn" BECAUSE of Ken. While Scourge may not be an "Evil Sonic", Scourge may ''still'' be safe.
11th Jun '14 6:24:38 AM HannahHypolita
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* Here's a question: during the Sonic Universe PrisonEpisode, they have girls (Fiona, her cellmate, and several others), minors (Scourge is sixteen, and Fiona is presumably the same age), and whatever-the-hell-Al-and-Cal-are (they act like small children, for crying out loud!) in the same prison as (presumably) adults. How did they get away with that in a kid's comic? The target audience (under-twelves, as mentioned above) won't get the UnfortunateImplications but as evidenced by the size of these pages, the comic has quite a large older fanbase...
31st May '14 11:59:42 AM TheConductor
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**** That's not even a little bit how countries work. The Kingdom changed it's name, location and power structure several times. The Acorn Republic is a totally different entity in every single way to the Kingdom of Mobotropolis.
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