History Headscratchers / Apollo18

17th Oct '14 7:02:24 AM HeliosPhoenix
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*** For what it's worth, the viral marketing materials on the website for the movie do attempt to handwave this a little better. Apparently the Saturn 5 for Apollo 18 was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base in California and literally in the middle of the night. It's still not a perfect coverup (not to mention that a Saturn 5 night launch is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck3udgsJLGE considerably bright]]), but given what we're told in the film it does work a little bit better.
4th Sep '13 12:40:41 PM Synthesis
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**** For starters, public information in 1974 on the exact capabilities of the Saturn V was not half as comprehensive as what we have now, forty years later. To the general public ''not'' sitting in mission control or the assembly building, a ridiculous-large DoD payload (corresponding with the huge military buildup of the same period) would be more than acceptable.
14th Jul '13 6:26:44 PM SharleeD
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** Again, it may only be the lunar south pole that's infested with alien spiders. Rocks retrieved from previous Apollo landing sites are just rocks, although the authorities are paranoid enough to suspect otherwise.

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** Again, it may only be the lunar south pole that's infested with alien spiders. Rocks retrieved from previous Apollo landing sites are just rocks, although the authorities are paranoid enough that rumors to suspect otherwise.the contrary start spreading through NASA.
14th Jul '13 6:23:23 PM SharleeD
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** Again, it may only be the lunar south pole that's infested with alien spiders. Rocks retrieved from previous Apollo landing sites are just rocks, although the authorities are paranoid enough to suspect otherwise.
14th Jul '13 6:13:49 PM SharleeD
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** The aliens might not be found on the ''entire'' moon, just the south pole. None of the RealLife lunar landings came anywhere near there.
11th May '13 3:51:23 AM bravo104
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***this just raises the question of why Ben and Nathan took the physical tapes with them when escaping.
16th Mar '13 6:08:43 AM erforce
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**** Good ole [[{{Aliens}} Weyland-Yutani]], they just gotta get their hands on an alien.

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**** Good ole [[{{Aliens}} [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Weyland-Yutani]], they just gotta get their hands on an alien.
1st Jul '12 7:34:09 AM mondeca
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** Admittedly, according to the viral marketing documents it's implied the rocket was launched in California where in theory you could pass it off as a [[FridgeBrilliance small earthquake]]. That wouldn't eliminate the sound or the sight-You can see the space shuttle launch for miles around, it would be no different for a Saturn V.
*** In addition, the mission was classified as an unmanned one. Just one problem: Using a Saturn V rocket for an unmanned mission to the moon would have been seen as a waste of resources given that, unlike the Apollo missions, you don't have to worry about getting your payload back home. The whole reason for the size and power of the Saturn Vs was so that they could get human astronauts and all their support equipment and gear to the moon and back within two weeks. To use such a massive rocket to get a rover or unmanned lander onto the moon would be extremely suspicious.
**** They only need to keep the public from knowing what the mission is really about. As far as the world knows, the US military is using a Saturn V rocket to launch a large classified unmanned payload into orbit. A safe guess would be that it's a satellite armed with nuclear weapons. They don't even need to keep everything a secret because the USSR (and probably NATO) already know what's really going and can assist with the cover-up.
** The California launch is merely a handwave. California didn't/doesn't have the facilities for a Saturn V launch, and then there's the annoying problem of transporting such a massive thing across the country. (Go to a space center with one on its side, on display - you'll see what I mean. [[http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/weirdscience/saturnv2.jpeg Or just look at this.]]) Even if you disassembled it and reassembled it on site, that's a pretty precision piece of technology to launch after being taken apart and put together again without testing.


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*** Just one problem: Using a Saturn V rocket for an unmanned mission to the moon would have been seen as a waste of resources given that, unlike the Apollo missions, you don't have to worry about getting your payload back home. The whole reason for the size and power of the Saturn Vs was so that they could get human astronauts and all their support equipment and gear to the moon and back within two weeks. To use such a massive rocket to get a rover or unmanned lander onto the moon would be extremely suspicious.
1st Jun '12 4:43:20 PM Hyrin
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* If the whole point of the mission was to find the aliens, what was the point of keeping it a secret from the astronauts? They were clearly going to discover the truth in time, the secrecy just meant they would be caught off guard when it happened.

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* If the whole point of the mission was to find the aliens, what was the point of keeping it a secret from the astronauts? They were clearly going to discover the truth in time, the secrecy just meant they would be caught off guard when it happened.happened.
** "Hey, something is killing cosmonauts on the moon. Fly up there with no weapons and find out what it is. No, it's not a complete suicide mission: the pilot will still be in orbit around the moon. He'll be totally safe, unless someone messes up the docking protocols or something. By the way, the cosmonaut said something about the rocks up there, but we aren't sure what he means." Even the most experienced astronauts would have backed out of that mission in the 1970s. Besides, the more people that know about a secret (in this case, parasites that can live on the moon, look like rocks, and can turn a human into a puppet), the higher chance there is of a leak, accidental or otherwise.
24th Mar '12 7:06:01 PM Softy
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** The launch itself was not covered up. It is explicitly stated in the film: "I think the way it's being explained is: They're using a Saturn V to launch a DoD payload. It's meant to be very large; very heavy, and apparently unmanned."

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** The launch itself was not covered up. It is explicitly stated in the film: "I think the way it's being explained is: They're using a Saturn V to launch a DoD [=DoD=] payload. It's meant to be very large; very heavy, and apparently unmanned."
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