History Headscratchers / AllGrownUp

3rd Aug '17 6:49:30 AM MsCC93
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:



Added DiffLines:



Added DiffLines:



Added DiffLines:



Added DiffLines:



Added DiffLines:



Added DiffLines:

** There's no explicit explanation for it. Maybe the artists of the show wanted to do it.


Added DiffLines:


* This is about ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' but it doesn't have a Headscratchers page. Why are they all pre-teens? They act like high schoolers, they're treated like high schoolers, they have high school problems, etc.
** The episode of Rugrats that inspired the series was originally a celebration of Rugrat's tenth anniversary and was intended to show what the characters would be like if they'd aged ten years. What with the majority of the cast being between one and three they'd have to be preteens. The problem was that the writers apparently had no idea how 11-13 year olds acted in real life and decided to just make them act high school aged. It's a fairly common thing seen in various media featuring kids: Grade schoolers act like middle schoolers, middle schoolers like high schoolers and high schoolers like college students. Seriously, I was still pretending to be Pokemon when I was 11, not going to concerts!
*** Why not age them up?
*** Actually, this whole "kids act like teenagers in television because they have no clue how kids really are" actually became {{Truth In Television}}. Kids see television as a role model for life sometimes, and they see "Oh, so this is how I'm supposed to be." Seriously. Remember those novels, ''Literature/TheClique''? Before they all decided to go goth and read ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', they all acted like the girls in those novels. Even though we were barely out of elementary school. Besides that, kids always want to look and act more adult anyway. And are very mean to anyone who isn't as 'mature' as them. Tommy and the gang could be trying to be more adult, and their parents, being not-as-competent-as-they-think-they-are, would encourage this by humoring them.
*** It's pretty FridgeBrilliance there - Just hang around ''any'' elementary school and they'll start trying to act "older" so they fit in with the "Cool" crowd.
** I said this on the Headscratchers for ''WesternAnimation/{{Daria}}'', but when has ''any'' high-school-and-below-themed work ''EVER'' accurately represented those years? Sides, if they acted like "actual" eleven year olds, you'd be here talking about how ''annoying'' they are and how nobody can identify with the protagonists. We wouldn't actually ''have'' an original series if the characters in the original series acted like ''real'' babies that were like, one to three - there's that appeal of having the kids act older than they really are in fiction.
** Well, they did act twice their age when they were babies. I mean seriously, Angelica acted like a six year old.
** "All Grown Up" takes place nine years into the future. That means that they would be aged 9-13 (counting Dil). I thought they were about 15 when I first saw the show, and was shocked when I found out that most of them were only like, 10. Seriously, 10 year olds shouldn't even be old enough for middle school. Just look at Timmy Turner. He's also 10, and acts nothing like the kids in "All Grown Up." It could be that the writers didn't know how to make story-line out of things 10 year olds really do, but if that was the case, they should've just made them teenagers in high school.
** Something else to consider is the audience. A portion of the kids who had grown up with the Rugrats were either at, approaching or a little past pre-teenhood when All Grown Up premiered, and so maybe they thought it would go over well with that demographic.
** I teach at a middle school that's attached to an elementary school. Assuming the kids are in anywhere from fifth to eighth grade, their actions aren't particularly unrealistic. Kids these days act way older than you'd expect, and today's middle schoolers are yesterday's high schoolers.
** Think about this: In the original Rugrats, the kids are about 1-3 years old, but were much smarter. Maybe they just kept the trend: age them 10 years and make them smarter than their age.

* What exactly happened in ''All Growed Up''? It's implied they went into the future (or at least from their baby PointOfView), but it's obviously not that. Also, I watched the special again, and it seems a bit heavy set on the lampshading of Rugrat things.
** I think it's just supposed to be a look into their future for us, and they didn't really experience it. Of course, I haven't seen the special in years so I could be wrong.
*** I have seen the special, and I agree, that was rather strange. I guess the time machine worked so that the babies went to the future, but aged into their All Grown Up ages and accepted that they had to act like teens. [[AllJustADream Or maybe Tommy dreamed the special]]. In my opinion, TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot that would've involved the babies meeting their teen selves and realizing how they've changed and how they are the same.
** Um, you do remember that previous episodes of this show included the babies entering a Reptar movie, acting out both the Passover and Chanukah stories, playing pretend through fairy tales, and imagining themselves as superheroes, right? The whole thing was probably just another ImagineSpot, and it would have stayed that way if the concept hadn't proven to be a successful pilot.
*** That would make sense but for the fact that the alleged ImagineSpot lasts but a few seconds in real time and leads to TheStinger, "Only ten more years until Angelica is nice to us." [[MST3KMantra Of course, there's no way what they did should have worked, either.]]

* So how come Susie didn't call the police on the con artist Beverly Jones in the episode "Susie Sings The Blues?" I mean, even the man could have assisted her in it, too. While working at the deserted building, he says "not again," which implied that Susie isn't the only person that Jones swindled.
18th Nov '16 5:08:25 PM fearlessnikki
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** And if you recall when Kimi says "I'm Japanese", the next response is a snarky "you haven't figured that out yet?" from Chuckie. She started out doing her report on her Finster connections, completely forgetting her mother and biological father's side of the family.
19th Nov '15 4:29:37 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''Rugrats'' takes place in the year the episodes were made, Stu even mentions it's the TurnOfTheMillennium in one of the movies. What year does AllGrownUp take place, the early 00s, the 2010s, or is it a TimeSkip?

to:

* ''Rugrats'' takes place in the year the episodes were made, Stu even mentions it's the TurnOfTheMillennium in one of the movies. What year does AllGrownUp ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' take place, the early 00s, the 2010s, or is it a TimeSkip?
8th Sep '15 12:45:01 PM fearlessnikki
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** Well I wouldn't say Tommy completely lost his adventurous side. He's now a wannabe filmmaker, which I definitely see as a representation of the imagination he had as a baby. Chuckie had a nerdy side in ''Rugrats'' but it was just downplayed. Susie seems pretty identical to how she was in the previous show; she was the well-behaved {{Foil}} for the bratty Angelica. Her becoming a straight A student and Miss Perfect seemed like a logical enough development.


Added DiffLines:

** I think you took the "I'm Japanese!" comment a little too literally. She obviously knew she was Japanese all her life. But she had never properly embraced her culture or been taught too much about it until then. Kimi was already living in Paris when she was a baby and then moved to America not too long afterwards. Growing up around Americans, she had simply been 'westernised' her whole life. In the episode itself she suddenly realises that there's a side of her ancestry she hasn't really explored yet. It's quite similar to Tommy only discovering his Jewish side when he wants to impress Rachel. In both cases their parents just didn't teach them much about their culture. Neither Didi nor Kira seem to be that heavily into that side of themselves.
5th Aug '15 5:18:54 AM neonhitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* How did Kimi not know that she was Japanese until the episode 'Memoirs of a Finster?' In my neighborhood, a kid was seen as dumb if they didn't know which race they were. I find it really hard to believe that Kimi wouldn't know about her culture until she was about twelve. Wouldn't she have found it earlier, or noticed some differences and perhaps asked? No? Okay.
5th Aug '15 4:35:08 AM neonhitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* While watching the series, this has always bugged me. Why did character personalities change so drastically? It was almost as if they weren't even the same people as they were on Rugrats! Tommy pretty much lost his interest in adventures, Kimi is as bratty as Angelica was now, Chuckie is just a nerd, Susie is a control freak along with perfectionist, and so on! I understand that we change throughout the years, but this much? What were the writers THINKING?
* Why did Tommy noticeably and seemingly gain a lot of weight in between series? It looks more normal on Chuckie.
5th Aug '15 4:32:20 AM neonhitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** If you watch until the end of the episode 'TP+KF' we find out that [[Spoiler: Chuckie is jealous of Tommy.]]

to:

** If you watch until the end of the episode 'TP+KF' we find out that [[Spoiler: Chuckie is is, for some reason, jealous of Tommy.]]his best friend.


Added DiffLines:

** From my memory, 'All Grown Up' itself was made to celebrate the ten years anniversary since the beginning of Rugrats.
5th Aug '15 4:30:50 AM neonhitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** If you watch until the end of the episode 'TP+KF' we find out that [[Chuckie is jealous of Tommy.]]

to:

** If you watch until the end of the episode 'TP+KF' we find out that [[Chuckie [[Spoiler: Chuckie is jealous of Tommy.]]
5th Aug '15 4:30:35 AM neonhitch
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** If you watch until the end of the episode 'TP+KF' we find out that [[Chuckie is jealous of Tommy.]]
21st Jul '15 3:28:45 PM TokoWH
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Why did they decide to have the characters as 12-13 year olds, despite the plots and settings being very teenager oriented? If they were going to time skip for that, why not make them around 17-18 year olds?
This list shows the last 10 events of 43. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Headscratchers.AllGrownUp