History Headscratchers / AllDogsGoToHeaven

17th Sep '15 11:29:53 AM TheRealYuma
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** Red isn't Satan. If anything, he's a pet of Satan.
3rd Aug '15 10:27:44 PM NWolfman
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** Poor writing.

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** [[TheyJustDidntCare Poor writing.writing]].
** While never outright stated, there are some theories that [[DealWithTheDevil Belladonna bailed him out in exchange for his eternal servitude]].
2nd Nov '14 2:45:35 AM MoPete
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* Why did Anne-Marie continue to wear her rags after Charlie and Itchy were clearly shown buying her nice, new clothes (which she had earlier expressed wanting desperately, as they might help her attract adoptive parents?)

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* Why did Anne-Marie continue to wear her rags after Charlie and Itchy were clearly shown buying her nice, new clothes (which she had earlier expressed wanting desperately, as they might help her attract adoptive parents?)parents?)
** At that point, Anne-Marie was angry at Charlie for not helping the poor or helping her find parents. So she probably just abandoned everything Charlie gave her, knowing it was bought using money he got from gambling, which "isn't right" as far as she's concerned.
8th Oct '14 5:03:32 PM sjh4889
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** Well, quite simply, Charlie broke THE RULE: no going back. Die once, free ticket to heaven. Go back by rewinding your watch and you're on your own. Carface ends up in hell via his own actions at the end of the second movie without ever technically being alive. If you have sanction to return to life, which Charlie receives at the end of the second film, you can return to heaven when you die like a normal dog. It isn't that Charlie was worse than everyone else; he broke the only real rule he was confronted with.

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** Well, quite simply, Charlie broke THE RULE: no going back. Die once, free ticket to heaven. Go back by rewinding your watch and you're on your own. Carface ends up in hell via his own actions at the end of the second movie without ever technically being alive. If you have sanction to return to life, which Charlie receives at the end of the second film, you can return to heaven when you die like a normal dog. It isn't that Charlie was worse than everyone else; he broke the only real rule he was confronted with.with.
*Why did Anne-Marie continue to wear her rags after Charlie and Itchy were clearly shown buying her nice, new clothes (which she had earlier expressed wanting desperately, as they might help her attract adoptive parents?)
12th Aug '14 5:36:18 PM Historian1912
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* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.

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* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.time.
** Well, quite simply, Charlie broke THE RULE: no going back. Die once, free ticket to heaven. Go back by rewinding your watch and you're on your own. Carface ends up in hell via his own actions at the end of the second movie without ever technically being alive. If you have sanction to return to life, which Charlie receives at the end of the second film, you can return to heaven when you die like a normal dog. It isn't that Charlie was worse than everyone else; he broke the only real rule he was confronted with.
26th Feb '14 9:12:20 AM bookwormgal
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** Maybe Charlie managed to slip out since they aren't used to dealing with dogs down there. Or he managed to con/bargain a chance to say good-bye. Either way, it might have amused Satan enough to watch Charlie have a last look at something he would never have again: his old life and friends.
16th Feb '14 12:15:25 PM reillymouse
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* In the first movie,the whole climax with Charlie sacrificing himself was unnecessary,he could've slipped the watch on his neck and dived for Ann-Marie,instead he put the watch on a faulty area where it could easily slip and fall into the water. Was Ann-Marie really gonna drown in the split second Charlie slipped on his watch?

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* In the first movie,the whole climax with Charlie sacrificing himself was unnecessary,he unnecessary, he could've slipped the watch on his neck and dived for Ann-Marie,instead Ann-Marie, instead he put the watch on a faulty area where it could easily slip and fall into the water. Was Ann-Marie really gonna drown in the split second Charlie slipped on his watch?



* Let me get this straight: in the Sequel, Gabriel's Horn is stolen from it's proper place by a conniving Carface and sold to...well, {{Satan}}. The Arch-Angel needs to send someone who can quickly and quietly retrieve the horn before absolute disaster befalls all of Paradise. And who does she send? She sends Charlie Barkin, a particular soul with a track record for disobedience and a goddamn ''ex-gangster'' to recover the most important item in all of Paradise. Granted, she sends good hearted Itchy with him, but Itchy is a completely spineless ''toady'' (as he was in life), and of course can't stop Charlie from abusing his power and ignoring his MissionFromGod. Charlie then proceeded to abuse his miracles, spend his time horning after an attractive Sasha, helping a ten year old run away from home, oh, and selling Gabriel's Horn to '''Satan''' so he can have a few more minutes on earth. This directly leads to every soul in Heaven to be forcibly ripped from the astral plain and forced into a small earthly cage. Charlie practically annihilated paradise over a single child (who wasn't in danger, mind you, Charlie just wanted to say ''goodbye''), but we'll ignore that for now. After Charlie defeats Satan and reclaims the horn, The Arch-Angel ''brings him back to life as a reward for his services''. The Arch-Angel '''rewards Charlie for cleaning up a mess that he almost entirely caused himself'''. What. The. Hell.

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* Let me get this straight: in the Sequel, sequel, Gabriel's Horn is stolen from it's proper place by a conniving Carface and sold to...well, {{Satan}}. The Arch-Angel Annabel needs to send someone who can quickly and quietly retrieve the horn before absolute disaster befalls all of Paradise. Heaven. And who does she send? She sends Charlie Barkin, a particular soul with a track record for disobedience and a goddamn ''ex-gangster'' to recover the most important item in all of Paradise. Granted, she sends good hearted Itchy with him, but Itchy is a completely spineless ''toady'' (as he was in life), and of course can't stop Charlie from abusing his power and ignoring his MissionFromGod. Charlie then proceeded to abuse his miracles, spend his time horning after an attractive Sasha, helping a ten year old run away from home, oh, and selling Gabriel's Horn to '''Satan''' so he can have a few more minutes on earth. This directly leads to every soul in Heaven to be forcibly ripped from the astral plain and forced into a small earthly cage. Charlie practically annihilated paradise over a single child (who wasn't in danger, mind you, Charlie just wanted to say ''goodbye''), but we'll ignore that for now. After Charlie defeats Satan and reclaims the horn, The Arch-Angel ''brings him back to life as a reward for his services''. The Arch-Angel services.''. Annabel '''rewards Charlie for cleaning up a mess that he almost entirely caused himself'''. What. The. Hell.



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* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.

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* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.
31st Jan '14 10:33:37 AM mechashiva
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** Because he loved Charlie, and he realized Charlie loved her, and he wanted to watch over her now that Charlie was dead. Also he probably didn't want to live on the street anymore.

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** Because he loved Charlie, and he realized Charlie loved her, and he wanted to watch over her now that Charlie was dead. Also he probably didn't want to live on the street anymore.anymore.
* Something that bothered me when I rewatched the original movie and the sequel (and I hadn't seen either in a long time): so out of all the dogs that ever lived EVER, Charlie is the only one who deserves to get into Hell? I'm not saying Charlie's actions aren't bad (Anne Marie even hangs a lampshade on the fact that having her talk to animals to place bets is the same as what Carface had her doing at first and he starts doing facile things to pretend to be good to make her happy) and he's basically a Loveable Rogue but Carface is much worse: he gets Anne Marie (for all we know, he took her off the street or from an orphanage) to shift odds in his rat racing and keeps her locked up in the basement as an afterthought and as a bargaining chip and thinks nothing of killing Charlie after framing him and sending him to the pound. I suppose Charlie needed the second chance by rewinding the watch and to learn eventually to put others needs over his own to save Anne Marie when before he just wanted to get revenge on Carface and start up his own casino but the rules of Dog Heaven is basically: All dogs are good and if they aren't when they show up, we have the time to turn them good because we have all eternity to do it. They don't seem to take into account Carface at least is beyond saving (conspiring to steal Gabriel's Horn while sucking up and pretending to be good) and Charlie is just too restless to stay in a place like Heaven where everything is nice and fair all the time.
14th Sep '13 2:58:12 PM Viira
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* Let me get this straight: in the Sequel, Gabriel's Horn is stolen from it's proper place by a conniving Carface and sold to...well, {{Satan}}. The Arch-Angel needs to send someone who can quickly and quietly retrieve the horn before absolute disaster befalls all of Paradise. And who does she send? She sends Charlie Barkin, a particular soul with a track record for disobedience and a goddamn ''ex-gangster'' to recover the most important item in all of Paradise. Granted, she sends good hearted Itchy with him, but Itchy is a completely spineless ''toady'' (as he was in life), and of course can't stop Charlie from abusing his power and ignoring his MissionFromGod. Charlie then proceeded to abuse his miracles, spend his time [[IncrediblyLamePun horning]] after an attractive Sasha, helping a ten year old run away from home, oh, and selling Gabriel's Horn to '''Satan''' so he can have a few more minutes on earth. This directly leads to every soul in Heaven to be forcibly ripped from the astral plain and forced into a small earthly cage. Charlie practically annihilated paradise over a single child (who wasn't in danger, mind you, Charlie just wanted to say ''goodbye''), but we'll ignore that for now. After Charlie defeats Satan and reclaims the horn, The Arch-Angel ''brings him back to life as a reward for his services''. The Arch-Angel '''rewards Charlie for cleaning up a mess that he almost entirely caused himself'''. What. The. Hell.

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* Let me get this straight: in the Sequel, Gabriel's Horn is stolen from it's proper place by a conniving Carface and sold to...well, {{Satan}}. The Arch-Angel needs to send someone who can quickly and quietly retrieve the horn before absolute disaster befalls all of Paradise. And who does she send? She sends Charlie Barkin, a particular soul with a track record for disobedience and a goddamn ''ex-gangster'' to recover the most important item in all of Paradise. Granted, she sends good hearted Itchy with him, but Itchy is a completely spineless ''toady'' (as he was in life), and of course can't stop Charlie from abusing his power and ignoring his MissionFromGod. Charlie then proceeded to abuse his miracles, spend his time [[IncrediblyLamePun horning]] horning after an attractive Sasha, helping a ten year old run away from home, oh, and selling Gabriel's Horn to '''Satan''' so he can have a few more minutes on earth. This directly leads to every soul in Heaven to be forcibly ripped from the astral plain and forced into a small earthly cage. Charlie practically annihilated paradise over a single child (who wasn't in danger, mind you, Charlie just wanted to say ''goodbye''), but we'll ignore that for now. After Charlie defeats Satan and reclaims the horn, The Arch-Angel ''brings him back to life as a reward for his services''. The Arch-Angel '''rewards Charlie for cleaning up a mess that he almost entirely caused himself'''. What. The. Hell.
28th Aug '13 7:14:45 AM 84788484
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* Why did Itchy end up staying with Anne-Marie at the end? I mean, up until his argument with Charlie caused her to run away, he pretty much couldn't stand her. I get that he wouldn't want a little girl to die, which is why he helped during the climax, but why live with her afterwards if he thinks all the things that went wrong for him and Charlie were because of her?

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* Why did Itchy end up staying with Anne-Marie at the end? I mean, up until his argument with Charlie caused her to run away, he pretty much couldn't stand her. I get that he wouldn't want a little girl to die, which is why he helped during the climax, but why live with her afterwards if he thinks all the things that went wrong for him and Charlie were because of her?her?
** Because he loved Charlie, and he realized Charlie loved her, and he wanted to watch over her now that Charlie was dead. Also he probably didn't want to live on the street anymore.
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