History Headscratchers / AhMyGoddess

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* A major one regards the reveal near the end of the manga that ever since the contract was made Keiichi's [[spoiler: sexual desire for Belldandy was sealed/restricted to ensure they would not mate (no words on how Belldandy dealt with her own desires unfortunately) and that every deity around him except Skuld was aware of it. This raises huge numbers of questions given how often both Urd and Peorth either offered sex to Keiichi or encouraged him and Belldandy to have sex. Just what was the point if they knew all along that it wouldn't/couldn't happen? Further, just why is sex forbidden anyway? As far as we know gods and humans can't reproduce with each other (the lake goddess and her husband never had a child (and she was even originally human). Is it simply meant to imply that having sex makes the eventual separation by death much harder to bear?]]
* Where is Belldandy's bedroom in the temple? Granted she rarely stays in her room due to being an outdoorsy person and the housewife of the four but it is strange that for 26 years we got to see Keiichi's, Urd's and Skuld's rooms (Morisato Residence, Urd's Castle, Skuld Labs), but not Bell's.

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* A major one regards the reveal near the end of the manga that ever since the contract was made Keiichi's [[spoiler: sexual [[spoiler:sexual desire for Belldandy was sealed/restricted to ensure they would not mate (no words word on how Belldandy dealt with her own desires desires, unfortunately) and that every deity around him except Skuld was aware of it. This raises huge numbers of questions given how often both Urd and Peorth either offered sex to Keiichi or encouraged him and Belldandy to have sex. Just what was the point if they knew all along that it wouldn't/couldn't happen? Further, just why is sex forbidden anyway? As far as we know gods and humans can't reproduce with each other (the lake goddess and her husband never had a child (and she was even originally human). Is it simply meant to imply that having sex makes the eventual separation by death much harder to bear?]]
* Where is Belldandy's bedroom in the temple? Granted she rarely stays in her room due to being an outdoorsy person and the housewife of the four but it is strange that for 26 years we got to see Keiichi's, Urd's and Skuld's rooms (Morisato Residence, Urd's Castle, Skuld Labs), but not Bell's. Bell's.
** It's the Everyone's Tea Room. She just allows everybody else to use it as a common room during the day.



** For the record, the name of the creatures is Lorelei. She acted in such a way because the Goddesses were trying to wrest Keiichi from her, who apparently for all intents and purposes was hers by rights because he was able to hear her song lures precisely in the day of their festival, an event that is crucial for their survival. Turned out that he was able to do so accidentally, as one of the Lorelei broke a "whale's egg" that was spilled into the water and into Keiichi's ear.''They got better.''

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** For the record, the name of the creatures is Lorelei. She acted in such a way because the Goddesses were trying to wrest Keiichi from her, who apparently for all intents and purposes was hers by rights because he was able to hear her song lures precisely in on the day of their festival, an event that is crucial for their survival. Turned out that he was able to do so accidentally, as one of the Lorelei broke a "whale's egg" that was spilled into the water and into Keiichi's ear. ''They got better.''



** Because Mara knows to fear the nice ones. As to the various levels of power: (a) Belldandy's powers are sealed (During the fight in the TV series, Mara is visibly scared when Belldandy just frowns at her, until she realises that her powers have been sealed), and (b) there appear to be clear rules of engagement between Goddesses and Demons - ultimately enforced by the doublet system. As for being a gutless coward, she isn't (except in the presence of Hild, of course) - She just sees herself as a rival rather than a bitter enemy.
** Consider that after the Lord of Terror episodes, Urd, Skuld and Keiichi are bickering about the reinstatement of his wish; Belldandy sighs... and proceeds to yell so loud that it paralyzes them. She is one fearsome flower, that Belldandy.

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** Because Mara knows to fear the nice ones. BewareTheNiceOnes. As to the various levels of power: (a) Belldandy's powers are sealed (During the fight in the TV series, Mara is visibly scared when Belldandy just frowns at her, until she realises realizes that her Bell's powers have been sealed), and (b) there appear to be clear rules of engagement between Goddesses and Demons - – ultimately enforced by the doublet system. As for being a gutless coward, she isn't (except in the presence of Hild, of course) - She course); she just sees herself as a rival rather than a bitter enemy.
** Consider that at the very beginning of ''Flights Of Fancy'' immediately after the Lord of Terror episodes, episodes Urd, Skuld Skuld, and Keiichi are bickering about the reinstatement of his wish; Belldandy sighs... sighs… and proceeds to yell so loud that it paralyzes them. She is one fearsome flower, that Belldandy.



*** For that matter, Peorth only changed her clothes maybe twice or thrice; in contrast, Lind and Chrono are almost completely unaware of such matters, though Lind is quick to comment that Peorth's outfit is not too flattering when seen from behind; Chrono is largely unaware of her unusual maid outfit while she is on the Earth, but she is made aware shortly before returning to Heaven, earning some chagrin against Peorth. In short, none of the Goddesses is fashion-savvy.
* In chapter 243 of the manga, Hild [[http://www.mangavolume.com/index.php?serie=ah-my-goddess&chapter=ah-my-goddess-243&page_nr=12 says]] that the demons and goddesses get their power from granting the wishes of humans. Why then, would the demons be willing to destroy the world, removing their own source of power from existance?
** Well given it has never happend most likely it is all talk. Remember Mara wasn't exactly expecting what happened with the king of terror who is so far the only demon that seems to be willing to destroy the world.

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*** For that matter, Peorth only changed her clothes maybe twice or thrice; in contrast, Lind and Chrono are almost completely unaware of such matters, though Lind is quick to comment that Peorth's outfit is not too flattering when seen from behind; Chrono is largely unaware of her unusual maid outfit while she is on the Earth, but she is made aware shortly before returning to Heaven, earning some chagrin against Peorth. In short, none of the Goddesses is are fashion-savvy.
* In chapter 243 of the manga, Hild [[http://www.mangavolume.com/index.php?serie=ah-my-goddess&chapter=ah-my-goddess-243&page_nr=12 says]] that the demons and goddesses get their power from granting the wishes of humans. Why then, would the demons be willing to destroy the world, removing their own source of power from existance?
existence?
** Well given it has never happend happened, most likely it is all talk. Remember Mara wasn't exactly expecting what happened with the king Lord of terror Terror, who is so far the only demon that seems to be willing to destroy the world.



**** The [=LoT=] either predates them using human wishes or he doesn't care because of the whole "destroy everything to remake it in my own image" thing he had going. More importantly, just because they say that he acts like a virus doesn't mean he isn't an actual demon.
*** And we and Russia both had thousands of nukes even though we both knew acutally ever using them was basically assuring our own deaths as well... It could have been a "nuclear option" a weapon of last resort or of spite for if back when they still actively warred aggressively with each other it looked like they might acutally be wiped out. Demons might not be suicidal, but they're certainly vindictive enough to have a doomsday "I'm taking you with me!" plan in there back pocket.
**** "Mutually Assured Destruction" hell can use the [=LoT=] to hold all three planes of existence to ransom if necessary....it makes a certain amount of sense
** They ''[[ExactWords can]]'' destroy the world, they can do it if they want. If they want destroy it that's another story.
*** Simple in-universe explanation by LoT/Ultimate destruction program itself, after cutting the 10th dimensional ring(from Super String Theory, which governs all physical laws of the world in-universe), thus ''destroying'' the world(all its physics interaction), it then proceeds to ''recreating'' the laws for it, but was stopped by Belldandy's self destruction move and Keiichi's body can't take the power of LoT, while self destucting, LoT mentioned there's no use in destorying the world if one cannot rebuild it. The demons do try to destroy the world, by destroying the natural and supernatural laws of it, but just so that they can rebuild it in their own liking. Also, LoT considered the world destroyed after cutting the 10th dimensional ring, but obviously the sense of ''destroy'' is very different from what normally human beings thought of. At least life still went on with humans(the Yggdrasil system was not fully repaired until at least a few volumes later and life goes on for everyone)

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**** *** The [=LoT=] either predates them using human wishes or he doesn't care because of the whole "destroy everything to remake it in my own image" thing he had going. More importantly, just because they say that he acts like a virus doesn't mean he isn't an actual demon.
*** And we and Russia both had thousands of nukes even though we both knew acutally actually ever using them was basically assuring our own deaths as well... It could have been a "nuclear option" a weapon of last resort or of spite for if back when they still actively warred aggressively with each other it looked like they might acutally be wiped out. Demons might not be suicidal, but they're certainly vindictive enough to have a doomsday "I'm taking you with me!" plan in there back pocket.
**** "Mutually Assured Destruction" hell can use the [=LoT=] to hold all three planes of existence to ransom if necessary....necessary... it makes a certain amount of sense
** They ''[[ExactWords can]]'' destroy the world, world. Whether they can do it if they want. If they want destroy it that's ''want'' to is another story.
*** Simple in-universe explanation by LoT/Ultimate [=LoT=]/Ultimate destruction program itself, after cutting the 10th dimensional ring(from ring (from Super String Theory, which governs all physical laws of the world in-universe), thus ''destroying'' the world(all world (all its physics interaction), it then proceeds to ''recreating'' ''recreate'' the laws for it, but was stopped by Belldandy's self destruction move and Keiichi's body can't take the power of LoT, [=LoT=], while self destucting, LoT destructing, [=LoT=] mentioned there's no use in destorying destroying the world if one cannot rebuild it. The demons do try to destroy the world, by destroying the natural and supernatural laws of it, but just so that they can rebuild it in to their own liking. Also, LoT [=LoT=] considered the world destroyed after cutting the 10th dimensional ring, but obviously the sense of ''destroy'' is very different from what normally human beings thought of. At least life still went on with humans(the Yggdrasil system was not fully repaired until at least a few volumes later and life goes on for everyone)



** Maybe, Goddesses just appeared before pure hearted people without the use of the telephone. The CelestialBureaucracy has just called for the use of the telephone system in recent decades.
** Its suggested that way of coexistence has only come into play shortly before or after Urd was born and she's only a few of years older then Keiichi and Belldandy.
*** Belldandy alright, but ''keichi''? exactly how old are belldandy and her sisters?
**** skuld has matured somewhat (in terms of her powers at least) in the time since she was introduced so it is possible they operate on a vaguely human time scale...but when urd had her licence suspended they were saying she would get it back in 50 years. if she's as old as she looks then it'll take longer to get the licence ''back'' than it took her to get it in the first place

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** Maybe, Maybe Goddesses just appeared before pure hearted pure-hearted people without the use of the telephone. The CelestialBureaucracy has just called for the use of the telephone system in recent decades.
** Its suggested
decades because it's easier for both sides.
*** That's almost certainly the case. Yggdrasil is able to monitor countless locations on Earth simultaneously and they ''do'' follow specific people. It's not a stretch to think
that way of coexistence has only come into play shortly before or after Urd was born minus the telephone, they simply assess their targets and she's only a few of years older then Keiichi and Belldandy.
*** Belldandy alright, but ''keichi''? exactly how old are belldandy and her sisters?
**** skuld has matured somewhat (in terms of her powers at least) in the time since she was introduced so it is possible they operate on a vaguely human time scale...but when urd had her licence suspended they were saying she would get it back in 50 years. if she's as old as she looks then it'll take longer
appear to get the licence ''back'' than it took her to get it in the first placethem directly.



** All in all demons seem to be Punch Clock Villains and aren't exactly too bright given that Mara is an example of one of the brighter ones. Also most of them like the current setup. Hild stated that the revolt happened because they weren't able to make more commissions because Hild was dealing with it herself.
** There may also be the practical limitation of power necessary to do those three spells--Hagall is implied to be the second most powerful demon alive, at least pound for pound, and the same tactic might not have continued to hold Hild (or worked at all) with lesser demons.

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** All in all demons seem to be Punch {{Punch Clock Villains Villain}}s and aren't exactly too bright given that Mara is an example of one of the brighter ones. Also most of them like the current setup. Hild stated that the revolt happened because they weren't able to make more commissions because Hild was dealing with it herself.
** There may also be the practical limitation of power necessary to do those three spells--Hagall spells – Hagall is implied to be the second most powerful demon alive, at least pound for pound, and the same tactic might not have continued to hold Hild (or worked at all) with lesser demons.



*** Hild agreed to the doublet system for the sake of Urd

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*** Hild agreed to the doublet system for the sake of UrdUrd.



** Because that's a plot-hole accidentally opened up in the anime. In the manga, Urd has to return and fix things.
*** Sticking with the manga chain of thought, returning to heaven for a short while is actually a better choice. By staying on Earth, the Goddesses are creating a singularity in Keiichi, and thus creating bugs in the system. Skuld's machine is working, but that is only before the [=LoT=] incident. The manga forced Belldandy to disappear for a second (and stated by Belldandy afterwards that the reconstruction of her in this dimension will just be an instant). Returning to heaven with the Norn's power would be a much easier and quicker way to fix Yggdrasil and straighten up things.



** Because that only happens in the anime.(In the manga, it is Urd who needed to go back that they prevented, and messed up the system again)
** Because if it works even remotely as a bureaucracy, it means that there are things that are simply not a priority or the priorities are skewed in the first place. In the Manga, the race of Gods even has its own messed up rules that they abide to. As such, the contract is Belldandy's responsibility (an even personal one), and not Heaven's. The Almighty in particular is very permissive with the Goddesses' presence at the Earth, even when most of them are not supposed to be there in the first place.
** Sticking with the manga chain of thought, returning to heaven for a short while is actually a better choice. By staying on Earth, the Goddesses are creating a singularity in Keiichi, and thus creating bugs in the system. Skuld's machine is working, but that is only before the LoT incident. The manga forced Belldandy to disappear for a second(and stated by Belldandy afterwares that the reconstruction of her in this dimension will just be an instant) Returning to heaven with the Norn's power would be much easier and quicker way to fix Yggdrasil and straighten up things.
** Also, heaven is not uncaring, they are in full force fixing the Yggdrasil system after the destruction of the world, yes, the WORLD, in the manga, Almighty actually tell the Goddesses that they will take care of things in heaven and asked the only person with that level of power on Earth, Belldandy, to take care of things there. The heaven is taking care of much much more places(multiple other dimensions). After the LoT incident, Almighty also told the Norns to choose to stay and find ways to survive without the system's support or return by their own powers(which is no simple feat), they chose to stay but when encountering a lot of problems(they powers are all drained), Almighty actually helped them out by telling them the moon stone can replenish their powers.
** And Almighty forgave them for a LOT of serious violations, like Urd lying(suspending, than revoking license should be the results), Belldandy not reporting the LoT, Belldandy taking off her limiters without permition(revolking her license or even TERMINATING her EXISTENCE), destroying the return gate for Urd thus trashing the just fixed Yggdrasil(on par with the LoT level of destructiveness), man, he surely is soft when it is his own daughters involved.

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** Because that only happens in the anime.(In the manga, it is Urd who needed to go back that they prevented, and messed up the system again)
** Because if it works even remotely as a bureaucracy, it means that there are things that are simply not a priority or the priorities are skewed in the first place. In the Manga, the race of Gods even has its own messed up rules that they abide to. by. As such, the contract is Belldandy's responsibility (an even personal one), and not Heaven's. The Almighty in particular is very permissive with the Goddesses' presence at on the Earth, even when most of them are not supposed to be there in the first place.
** Sticking with the manga chain of thought, returning to heaven for a short while is actually a better choice. By staying on Earth, the Goddesses are creating a singularity in Keiichi, and thus creating bugs in the system. Skuld's machine is working, but that is only before the LoT incident. The manga forced Belldandy to disappear for a second(and stated by Belldandy afterwares that the reconstruction of her in this dimension will just be an instant) Returning to heaven with the Norn's power would be much easier and quicker way to fix Yggdrasil and straighten up things.
** Also, heaven is not uncaring, they are in full force fixing the Yggdrasil system after the destruction of the world, yes, the WORLD, in the manga, Almighty actually tell the Goddesses that they will take care of things in heaven and asked the only person with that level of power on Earth, Belldandy, to take care of things there. The heaven is taking care of much much more places(multiple other dimensions). After the LoT incident, Almighty also told the Norns to choose to stay and find ways to survive without the system's support or return by their own powers(which is no simple feat), they chose to stay but when encountering a lot of problems(they powers are all drained), Almighty actually helped them out by telling them the moon stone can replenish their powers.
** And Almighty forgave them for a LOT of serious violations, like Urd lying(suspending, than revoking license should be the results), Belldandy not reporting the LoT, Belldandy taking off her limiters without permition(revolking her license or even TERMINATING her EXISTENCE), destroying the return gate for Urd thus trashing the just fixed Yggdrasil(on par with the LoT level of destructiveness), man, he surely is soft when it is his own daughters involved.
place.



** Consider the norse mythology background of AMG! In Norse mythology the devil is more a trickster than the irredeemable monster of christianity.
** It's the "for the right compensation" part. She's not THAT dangerous most of the time just malicious.
*** Oh yes, because sociopaths willing (and able) to kill billions for the right fee aren't dangerous.
**** "For the right compensation". We have no idea just what that is--and I hardly think it would be anything simple or even remotely easily obtained.
**** Belldandy also announced that she could destroy the world when she was explaining about wishes on her first appearance, although she said she'd rather not deal with those sorts of people.
***** That would make beloved Bell, as well as all other goddesses and demons abiding by the transaction agreement, sociopaths. There's no evidence that Belldandy or anyone else can actually, flat out, say "no".
****** But it has been implied that they can and its stated that Belldandy can break her contracts through sheer power alone.
******* Belldandy might be able to break the rules. It's only implied, and it would probably have to do with Keiichi. Then again, we've seen what happened when she broke a 'lesser' rule in the film. Hild, on the other hand, likely got to where she is by breaking certain rules. If either of them were afforded some leeway, I'd say Hild has a lot more experience with both using it, and knowing when to.
** First off, she was repeating what Belldandy said to mess with Keiichi. Second, Hild is an older more mature version of Urd to the point that they think and act alike.

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** Consider the norse mythology mythological background of AMG! In Norse mythology mythology, the devil is more a trickster than the irredeemable monster of christianity.
Christianity.
** It's the "for the right compensation" part. She's not THAT dangerous most of the time time, just malicious.
*** Oh yes, because sociopaths willing (and able) to kill billions for the right fee aren't dangerous.
**** "For the right compensation". We have no idea just what
malicious. Also, she flat-out says that is--and I hardly think it would be anything simple or even remotely easily obtained.
**** Belldandy also announced
it's highly unlikely, perhaps impossible, that she could destroy the world when she was explaining about wishes on her first appearance, although she said she'd rather not deal with those sorts of people.
***** That would make beloved Bell, as well as all other goddesses and demons abiding by the transaction agreement, sociopaths. There's no evidence that Belldandy or
anyone else can actually, flat out, say "no".
****** But it has been implied that they can and its stated that Belldandy can break her contracts through sheer power alone.
******* Belldandy might
on Earth would ever be able to break the rules. It's only implied, and it would probably have to do with Keiichi. Then again, we've seen what happened when she broke a 'lesser' rule in the film. Hild, on the other hand, likely got to where she is by breaking certain rules. If either of them were afforded some leeway, I'd say Hild has a lot more experience with both using it, and knowing when to.
"afford" something like that.
** First off, she That entire spiel was repeating what meant to be an IronicEcho because Belldandy said to mess with Keiichi. Second, Hild is an older more mature version of Urd to the point exact same thing in the very first chapter of the manga (2nd episode of the TV series)… though Bell then implied she was unlikely to appear before anyone who had that they think and act alike.kind of wish.



** Since there have been shown to be other realms, demons probably aren't the only nasty around. It's also an easy visual that they are a ''combat'' force rather then regulatory admins like Skuld or Urd.
** Case in point, Lind's battleaxe is actually a power limiter.

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** Since there have been shown to be other realms, demons probably aren't the only nasty around. It's also an easy visual that they are a ''combat'' force rather then regulatory admins like Skuld or and Urd.
** Case in point, Lind's battleaxe halberd is actually a power limiter.



* In the city where the series takes place there has been a gigantic dark wolf (Fenrir), meteors systematically destroying buildings, a giant flying coil of white snakes (Midgard), and a huge red, glowing symbol in the sky during the Lord of Terror incident alone. The city was also wrecked during the incident and Belldandy used her magic to repair it ''right in front of everyone''! Magic regularly flies out from the goddess' temple. Explosions there are also quite common. How can the goddess' possibly be keeping what is going on a secret?

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* In the city where the series takes place place, there has been a gigantic dark wolf (Fenrir), meteors systematically destroying buildings, a giant flying coil of white snakes (Midgard), and a huge red, glowing symbol in the sky during the Lord of Terror incident alone. The city was also wrecked during the incident and Belldandy used her magic to repair it ''right in front of everyone''! Magic regularly flies out from the goddess' goddess's temple. Explosions there are also quite common. How can the goddess' goddesses possibly be keeping what is going on a secret?secret?
** Actual Answer From the Manga: After years of student pranks, [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight the residents of Nekomi are simply used to everything]].



**** Skuld can build a 10th dimension Scythe, a 10th dimension Toad and a 10th dimention rice cooker(the latter two are for Japanese puns) in a relatively short period, and heaven is an even higher dimension of existence.
** According to the manga, after years of student pranks the residents of Nekomi are simply used to everything.

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**** *** Skuld can build a 10th dimension Scythe, a 10th dimension Toad and a 10th dimention rice cooker(the latter two are for Japanese puns) in a relatively short period, and heaven is an even higher dimension of existence.
** According to the manga, after years of student pranks the residents of Nekomi are simply used to everything.
existence.



* In Skuld's premiere episode, her lies are revealed and she makes the bug-destroying machine that she had thought of a long time ago. Urd accidentally destroys it and this is supposed to force Belldandy to return to heaven. But, um..., why didn't Belldandy just ask Skuld if she could rebuild it? She had already done it once and this is what Skuld ultimately does anyway.
** Because it was part of the anime and thus badly written.

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* In Skuld's premiere episode, her lies are revealed and she makes the bug-destroying machine that she had thought of a long time ago. Urd accidentally destroys it and this is supposed to force Belldandy to return to heaven. But, um..., um… why didn't Belldandy just ask Skuld if she could rebuild it? She had already done it once and this is what Skuld ultimately does anyway.
** Because it was part of the anime and thus badly written.
anyway.



** Its never suggested that the Angel's were anything like their souls. And Hild always has a reason for doing what she does.

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** Its It's never suggested that the Angel's were anything like their souls. And Hild always has a reason for doing what she does.



** Seems to forbid direct attack by a demon; the ninjas are originally mice. Mara also seems the type to have no problem doublecrossing them later anyway.

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** Seems to forbid direct attack by a demon; the ninjas are originally mice. Mara also seems the type to have no problem doublecrossing double-crossing them later anyway.



*** the doublet system doesn't prevent either side from being killed, it just means you have to be willing to kill a random comrade for each enemy that dies
*** Mara's target is, and always has been Keiichi. She basically does this stuff as a form of attrition so the Goddesses leave the Earth; she is merely trying to expand her share, which is considerably hindered by the Norns' presence. In the mean time, Mara does not actually bear any ill towards the Goddesses or Keiichi for that matter, but she is compelled to perform her work regardless.
** They were there originally to spy not to kill Bell which they couldn't even if they wanted to.
* Why are we supposed to think of Celestine as the villain in the movie? He really seemed right about pretty much everything. The Judgment Gate was incredibly cruel, he was right to want it destroyed. Doubt is part of a growing relationship. Plus, as he specifically points out, his plans do not involve anyone's death. From what he and others said, what he was doing for humans would've happened on its own in a few eons anyway, he was just speeding up the process. What crime was he actually guilty of?
** I can see your point about the gate, but as to the rest of it, "drop a nuke and rebuild" is probably not exactly what you want for the whole world. Not to mention the fact that humanity got this far by evolving into it. Having everything rebuilt according to the specs of one guy would [[{{Main/ShootTheShaggyDog}} cheapen that]]. When it comes to evolution, the journey is just as important as the destination.
** Actually Celestine is a pretty close approximation for Lucifer (in certain Christian faiths). For example, Mormons view Lucifer as falling because he rebelled against God by planning to force all mankind to be good instead of permitting them free will. Of course, Lucifer also demanded that he get to be the new God in this world- which also matches Celestine. It's a morality debate- Celestine argues that [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the ends justify the means]], while Belldandy argues that [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill only a freely chosen way can achieve happiness]].

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*** the The doublet system doesn't prevent either side from being killed, killed; it just means you have to be willing to kill a random comrade for each that killing your enemy that dies
also results in one of your comrades biting the dust – possibly you, and no one knows who the unlucky stiff will be until it happens. So it's really not worth the risk.
*** Mara's target is, is and always has been Keiichi. She basically does this stuff as a form of attrition so the Goddesses leave the Earth; she is merely trying to expand her share, which is considerably hindered by the Norns' presence. In the mean time, meantime, Mara does not actually bear any ill will towards the Goddesses or Keiichi for that matter, but she is compelled to perform her work regardless.
** They were there originally to spy spy, not to kill Bell Bell, which they couldn't even if they wanted to.
* Why are we supposed to think of Celestine as the villain in the movie? He really seemed right about pretty much everything. The Judgment Gate was incredibly cruel, cruel; he was right to want it destroyed. Doubt is part of a growing relationship. Plus, as he specifically points out, his plans do not involve anyone's death. From what he and others said, what he was doing for humans would've happened on its own in a few eons anyway, he was just speeding up the process. What crime was he actually guilty of?
** I can see your point about the gate, but as to the rest of it, "drop a nuke and rebuild" is probably not exactly what you want for the whole world. Not to mention the fact that humanity got this far by evolving into it. Having everything rebuilt according to the specs of one guy would [[{{Main/ShootTheShaggyDog}} [[ShootTheShaggyDog cheapen that]]. When it comes to evolution, the journey is just as important as the destination.
** Actually Celestine is a pretty close approximation for Lucifer (in certain Christian faiths). For example, Mormons view Lucifer as falling because he rebelled against God by planning to force all mankind to be good instead of permitting them free will. Of course, Lucifer also demanded that he get to be the new God in this world- world – which also matches Celestine. It's a morality debate- debate – Celestine argues that [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans the ends justify the means]], UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans, while Belldandy argues that [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill only a freely chosen way can achieve happiness]].



** Celestine bad because he was being an ass and was trying to steal Belldandy form Keiichi. The thing is that if Belldandy hadn't meet Keiichi as a child then he would have never been her mentor.
** Celestine was a presumptuousness asshole who automaticly assumed the worst about the system (and was ultimately proven wrong on that point) and when pure brute strength wasn't enough to get his way he used the very thing he was aiming for (harmony between all beings, in this case though Bell and K1) and utterly fucked with it in some two bit plan to rewrite a system (by nuking everything and everyone to pave his own way, it has to be said) that, some paper pushing nuisances aside, doesn't need to be fixed.

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** Celestine bad because he was being an ass and was trying to steal Belldandy form Keiichi. The thing is that if Belldandy hadn't meet Keiichi as a child then he would have never been her mentor.
** Celestine was a presumptuousness presumptuous asshole who automaticly automatically assumed the worst about the system (and was ultimately proven wrong on that point) and when pure brute strength wasn't enough to get his way he used the very thing he was aiming for (harmony between all beings, in this case though Bell and K1) and utterly fucked with it in some two bit plan to rewrite a system (by nuking everything and everyone to pave his own way, it has to be said) that, some paper pushing nuisances aside, doesn't need to be fixed.



** Belldandy did not even understand her own envy much later into the series until Shiho came by, and Keiichi is actually pretty scary when trying to confess the first time, with heart rates way into the danger zone and raised temperature. Belldandy can't really read people's mind anyway, she can only see colours, and Keiichi's colour towards her likely is always pink(which means love), so she can't really distinguish that well when Keiichi finally makes his move.

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** Belldandy did not even understand her own envy much later into the series until Shiho came by, and Keiichi is actually pretty scary when trying to confess the first time, with heart rates way into the danger zone and raised temperature. Belldandy can't really read people's mind anyway, anyway; she can only [[AuraVision see colours, colours]], and Keiichi's colour towards her is likely is almost always pink(which pink (which means love), so she can't really distinguish that well when Keiichi finally makes his move.



** BTW, Belldandy simply knows those people too well, its more like BatmanGambit rather than simple trust. She knows that sometimes they make the situation worse if they lie, and usually they learn the lesson and tell the truth at the end. Sometimes they are just smart enough to not lie to begin with. Belldandy's aura is also strong enough to stop most humans to not lie to her anyway.

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** BTW, Belldandy simply knows those people too well, its well. It's more like BatmanGambit rather than simple trust. She knows that sometimes they make the situation worse if they lie, and usually they learn the lesson and tell the truth at the end. Sometimes they are just smart enough to not lie to begin with. Belldandy's aura is also strong enough to stop most humans to not lie to her anyway.



** Their time is differernt from humans, they belong to a much high plane of dimension. For Skuld and Urd, they are younger and older because they represents the future and the past, and thus when the system is messed up, Skuld grows and Urd became a kid when stripped of their powers.

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** Their time is differernt different from humans, they belong to a much high plane of dimension. For Skuld and Urd, they are younger and older because they represents the future and the past, and thus when the system is messed up, Skuld grows and Urd became a kid when stripped of their powers.



** Main/EvenEvilHasStandards.

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** Main/EvenEvilHasStandards.EvenEvilHasStandards.



** Simply put, if only Heaven is granting wishes, this can apply, but Hell is also in play, so those wishes might be simply bent or twisted to only apply to places where the person who made the wish can have knowledge of.(or depends on the market share of heaven and hell)
** Because its was implied that they have to be able to achieve those wishes themselves.

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** Simply put, if only Heaven is granting wishes, this can apply, but Hell is also in play, so those wishes might be simply bent or twisted to only apply to places where the person who made the wish can have knowledge of. (or depends on the market share of heaven and hell)
** Because its it was implied that they have to be able to achieve those wishes themselves.



** The Almighty is a title (Daitenkaicho), as revealed in chapter 294 of the manga [[http://www.mangareader.net/ah-my-goddess/294/23]]. It is revealed that the current almighty is Tyr, who in Norse mythology, is the son of Odin in the more familiar and recent myths (in the earlier-written myths, he had Odin's position).

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** The Almighty is a title (Daitenkaicho), as revealed in chapter 294 of the manga [[http://www.mangareader.net/ah-my-goddess/294/23]]. It is revealed that the current almighty is Tyr, who in Norse mythology, mythology is the son of Odin in the more familiar and recent myths (in the earlier-written myths, he had Odin's position).



** Because the goddesses block the phone's signal and 'steal' it during the call. If Keiichi pushed the redial button, he would call the place he originally wanted to, the restaurant.

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** Because the goddesses block the phone's signal and 'steal' it during the call. If Keiichi pushed the redial button, he would call the place he originally wanted to, to: the restaurant.



**** Because the number doesn't matter, there is no phone number for heaven. Its a cosmic lotto. the exactly right person has to dial the exactly right numbers (that change all the time) at the exactly right time. The odds of someone dialing it are trillions to one. The goddess themselves were shocked when K1 ended up doing it a second time and getting the 4 goddess to show up.

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**** Because the number doesn't matter, there is no phone number for heaven. Its a cosmic lotto. the exactly right person has to dial the exactly right numbers (that change all the time) at the exactly right time. The odds of someone dialing it are trillions to one. The goddess themselves were shocked when K1 [=K1=] ended up doing it a second time and getting the 4 goddess Peorth to show up. up.



**** Peorth was literally waiting for Keiichi to call because she can sense his desperation, so the desperation factor is also in play. This is likely why Keiichi can call Urd deliberately. So Keiichi is so lucky and desperate that he managed to accidentally call heaven thrice.

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**** Peorth was literally waiting for Keiichi to call because she can sense sensed his desperation, so the desperation factor is also in play. This is likely why Keiichi can call Urd deliberately. So Keiichi is so lucky and desperate that he managed to accidentally call heaven thrice.



** The doublets seem to be set up in some sort of ceremony (which is then forgotten). Presumably the pairs don't need to be the same age, and so any differences in birth rates can be dealt with by averaging them out over several years, and even if a few members of one side aren't in a doublet the fact that everyone else is would still prevent anyone trying to kill anyone, because the odds of hitting the undoubleted minority is too small to be worth the risk. The only real threat is if one side managed to double it's population compared to the other, and the new group killed off their predecessors to get rid of the other side as well, which is probably enough for them to make sure that they keep their birth rates approximately even.

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** The doublets seem to be set up in some sort of ceremony (which is then forgotten). Presumably the pairs don't need to be the same age, and so any differences in birth rates can be dealt with by averaging them out over several years, and even if a few members of one side aren't in a doublet the fact that everyone else is would still prevent anyone trying to kill anyone, because the odds of hitting the undoubleted minority is too small to be worth the risk. The only real threat is if one side managed to double it's its population compared to the other, and the new group killed off their predecessors to get rid of the other side as well, which is probably enough for them to make sure that they keep their birth rates approximately even.



** Heaven and Hell have a strict "No Killing" policy to both Goddesses and Humans (Presumably, as its only stated for Divine Beings and I'm going by the official Manga for authority on this) and the general attitude is that Demons take more pleasure in the misfortune of humans, and that killing would be both A. Human no longer around to make miserable, and B. No way a Human could defend itself against a Divine being. Furthermore, As far as Hild's power goes though, its considerably less then the Almighty (That is the De Facto most powerful existence uh... existing), so if she tried anything like killing one of the Almighty's creation without just cause (Keiichi's death to rid Belldandy & Co. from the planet earth is certainly not reason enough) then the Almighty would lay the smack down and well, obvious death and destruction is bad for business.

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** Heaven and Hell have a strict "No Killing" policy to both Goddesses and Humans (Presumably, as its only stated for Divine Beings and I'm going by the official Manga for authority on this) and the general attitude is that Demons take more pleasure in the misfortune of humans, and that killing would be both A. (A.) Human no longer around to make miserable, and B. (B.) No way a Human could defend itself against a Divine being. Furthermore, As far as Hild's power goes though, its considerably less then the Almighty (That is the De Facto most powerful existence uh... existing), so if she tried anything like killing one of the Almighty's creation without just cause (Keiichi's death to rid Belldandy & Co. from the planet earth is certainly not reason enough) then the Almighty would lay the smack down and well, obvious death and destruction is bad for business.



**** Well, we're talking about the balance of Good and Evil/Happyness and Misery here, right? Perhaps the amount of misery on Morisato Keiichi's Earth is as high as the amount of misery on our Earth? Although, we're talking about a Universe where there's a gate which completely separates a couple if they have any doubt in themselves at all, so maybe the amount of misery in AMG's universe is just concentrated elsewhere.

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**** Well, we're talking about the balance of Good and Evil/Happyness and Misery here, right? Perhaps the amount of misery on Morisato Keiichi's Keiichi Morisato's Earth is as high as the amount of misery on our Earth? Although, we're talking about a Universe where there's a gate which completely separates a couple if they have any doubt in themselves at all, so maybe the amount of misery in AMG's universe is just concentrated elsewhere.



** Some openings are weird.
** Well, for that matter, Keiichi's parents also appear in the Flights of Fancy opening but don't actually show up in the whole series. There is still an awful lot of material that hasn't been put into animation, but Fujishima's pace tends to make things even worse; consider that the Coup in Niflheim manga story line has lasted at least '''four years and counting'''.

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** Some Why do Mara, the Lord Of Terror Jar, and Kodama cameo in the opening credits to the OAV series when they never appeared in the series proper? The answer to both questions is that openings are weird.
weird like that.
*** It's particularly bizarre with the OAV, since it was planned from the beginning to be only five episodes, yet teases a lot of material that wouldn't be animated until over a decade later. At least Shiho actually ''showed up'' in the TV series.
** Well, for that matter, Keiichi's parents also appear in the Flights of Fancy opening ending but don't actually show up in the whole series. There is still an awful lot of material that hasn't been put into animation, but Fujishima's pace tends to make things even worse; consider that the Coup in Niflheim manga story line has lasted at least '''four four years and counting'''.real-time.



** Mara has a tendency to bite more than she can chew; for instance, when she separated Urd's demonic half from her Goddess half, she didn't think that the situation would turn against her as it did. On that instance, she received the device from the Demonic Mail Catalogue by mistake and she used it anyway. She ended up begging the Goddesses to intervene, not for her own sake, but for Urd's and their sake. Every time she tries to just scare away the Goddesses, but everything eventually turns to overkill that backfires on her.

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** Mara has a tendency to bite off more than she can chew; for instance, when she separated Urd's demonic half from her Goddess half, she didn't think that the situation would turn against her as it did. On that instance, she received the device from the Demonic Mail Catalogue by mistake and she used it anyway. She ended up begging the Goddesses to intervene, not for her own sake, but for Urd's and their sake. Every time she tries to just scare away the Goddesses, but everything eventually turns to overkill that backfires on her.



** Hild wanting recognition as mother from Urd is fine and well, but couldn't she have just changed the bureaucracy _then_ manipulated Hagall and everyone else into the rebellion? Aside from a test of Hagall's unshakable loyalty to Hild personally, it's a more than a little dangerous.

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** Hild wanting recognition as mother from Urd is fine and well, but couldn't she have just changed the bureaucracy _then_ and ''then'' manipulated Hagall and everyone else into the rebellion? Aside from a test of Hagall's unshakable loyalty to Hild personally, it's a more than a little dangerous.



*** If you're referring to the canonic context of Oh My Goddess, nothing in the show suggests that the actual Scandinavians ''in the show'' know anything about Heaven or Niflheim for that matter. The only suggestion in-universe is the fact that Belldandy sometimes cooks Scandinavian dishes for Keiichi. The moment a Scandinavian appears in the manga, well... that will certainly be the day we'll know!

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*** If you're referring to the canonic context of Oh ''Oh My Goddess, Goddess'', nothing in the show suggests that the actual Scandinavians ''in the show'' know anything about Heaven or Niflheim for that matter. The only suggestion in-universe is the fact that Belldandy sometimes cooks Scandinavian dishes for Keiichi. The moment a Scandinavian appears in the manga, well... that will certainly be the day we'll know!



* Why did the Almighty allowed to subject himself and Hild through the Judgement Gate? Hild has suggested that they were forced to do so, but if the character is indeed ''THE'' Almighty, did he just do it for the sake of the rules?; if such is the case, does the Almighty ''only'' rule over Heaven and there is a higher power that made him go through the gates? (in all fairness, Hild -his former wife- and Anzus -his current wife- only refer to this subject as "him" and it's heavily implied that it's the Almighty, though -if I remember correctly- it's never directly stated that he is the subject indeed).

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* Why did the Almighty allowed to subject himself and Hild through to the Judgement Gate? Hild has suggested that they were forced to do so, but if the character is indeed ''THE'' Almighty, did he just do it for the sake of the rules?; if such is the case, does the Almighty ''only'' rule over Heaven and there is a higher power that made him go through the gates? (in all fairness, Hild -his former wife- and Anzus -his current wife- only refer to this subject as "him" and it's heavily implied that it's the Almighty, though -if I remember correctly- it's never directly stated that he is the subject indeed).



** Temples are not publicly owned in Japan; they are privately owned, just like the shrines.



** Temples are not publicly owned in Japan, they are privately owned, just like the shrines.


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** He's the guy trying to get ahold of Tamiya and the reason why Keiichi is forced to stay at the dorm all day waiting for his call.
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** Belldandy is on the temple grounds (which is conveniently walled off from public) when she restored the city, so it's not unlikely that nobody else see the main four.
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* Which room does Belldandy sleep in the temple? Granted she rarely stays in her room due to being an outdoorsy person and the housewife of the four but it is strange that for 26 years we got to see Keiichi's, Urd's and Skuld's rooms (Morisato Residence, Urd's Castle, Skuld Labs), but not Bell's.

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* Which room does Belldandy sleep Where is Belldandy's bedroom in the temple? Granted she rarely stays in her room due to being an outdoorsy person and the housewife of the four but it is strange that for 26 years we got to see Keiichi's, Urd's and Skuld's rooms (Morisato Residence, Urd's Castle, Skuld Labs), but not Bell's.
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* Which room does Belldandy sleep in the temple? Granted she rarely stays in her room due to being an outdoorsy person and the housewife of the four but it is strange that for 26 years we got to see Keiichi's, Urd's and Skuld's rooms (Morisato Residence, Urd's Castle, Skuld Labs), but not Bell's.
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** Also, the bit about time working differently in Heaven is from the source material, while the time-travel abilities are anime-only. This is AdaptationDecay at work.

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** Also, the bit about time working differently in Heaven is from the source material, while the time-travel abilities are anime-only. This is AdaptationDecay at work.material.
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** I don't think anyone had time travel abilities in the manga, it's just {{Adaptation Decay}}.
*** Seconded, they don't display them. And while it sets up a hilarious episode, it does cause a lot of potential problems.
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* A major one regards the reveal near the end of the manga that ever since the contract was made Keiichi's [[spoiler: sexual desire for Belldandy was sealed/restricted to ensure they would not mate (no words on how Belldandy dealt with her own desires unfortunately) and that everyone but Skuld was aware of it. This raises huge numbers of questions given how often both Urd and Peorth either offered sex to Keiichi or encouraged him and Belldandy to have sex. Just what was the point if they knew all along that it wouldn't/couldn't happen? Further, just why is sex forbidden anyway? As far as we know gods and humans can't reproduce with each other (the lake goddess and her husband never had a child (and she was even originally human). Is it simply meant to imply that having sex makes the eventual separation by death much harder to bear?]]

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* A major one regards the reveal near the end of the manga that ever since the contract was made Keiichi's [[spoiler: sexual desire for Belldandy was sealed/restricted to ensure they would not mate (no words on how Belldandy dealt with her own desires unfortunately) and that everyone but every deity around him except Skuld was aware of it. This raises huge numbers of questions given how often both Urd and Peorth either offered sex to Keiichi or encouraged him and Belldandy to have sex. Just what was the point if they knew all along that it wouldn't/couldn't happen? Further, just why is sex forbidden anyway? As far as we know gods and humans can't reproduce with each other (the lake goddess and her husband never had a child (and she was even originally human). Is it simply meant to imply that having sex makes the eventual separation by death much harder to bear?]]
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