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20th Aug '17 1:59:35 PM dmcreif
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** Also from ''Series/LukeCage2016'': After seeing ''The Defenders'', Misty got a grand total of one more year with that arm after Claire saved it, precisely because she saved Claire's life.
8th Aug '17 5:23:37 AM Anicomicgeek
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** ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' featured Ricardo Medina Jr as the villain Deker; a swordsman with a lust for battle after a curse was placed on him. This is much harder to watch after Medina has been charged with killing his roommate (the charges were dismissed on self-defense grounds, which takes some of the sting out, but still...). This also extends to ''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'', which featured Medina as Red Ranger Cole, and the Rangers on that team used swords as their main weapons.

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** ''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' featured Ricardo Medina Jr Jr. as the villain Deker; a swordsman with a lust for battle after a curse was placed on him. This is much harder to watch after Medina has been charged with killing his roommate (the charges were dismissed on self-defense grounds, which takes some of the sting out, but still...).and pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter. This also extends to ''Series/PowerRangersWildForce'', which featured Medina as Red Ranger Cole, and the Rangers on that team used swords as their main weapons.
5th Aug '17 6:18:24 PM Digital_Utopia
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** In a Season 1 episode, a bombing suspect mentions how he likes to keep souvenirs - putting a souvenir from a bomb at his workplace, up along the likes of souvenirs from Waco and the WTC. While the latter was obviously in reference to the 1993 bombing, the episode itself aired a mere seven months before the infamous 2001 attack on the World Trade Center.
24th Jul '17 11:29:21 PM ZoeyPosthuman
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**** Considering how Savile's vileness was an open secret at the BBC, it's quite possible Colin was referring to it, too.
17th Jun '17 9:43:46 PM jormis29
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*** Another example would be an early episode called "Second Opinion", where the victim was killed by a quack remedy for her cancer, and Lt. Van Buren and Detective Briscoe are discussing the woman's condition. Briscoe's actor, Jerry Orbach, died of cancer, and a final season story arc involved Van Buren receiving a scare about possible cancer.

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*** Another example would be an early episode called "Second Opinion", where the victim was killed by a quack remedy for her cancer, and Lt. Van Buren and Detective Briscoe are discussing the woman's condition. Briscoe's actor, Jerry Orbach, Creator/JerryOrbach, died of cancer, and a final season story arc involved Van Buren receiving a scare about possible cancer.
9th May '17 5:14:02 AM jormis29
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* ''Series/BeverlyHills90210'': The Season 1 VerySpecialEpisode "It's Only a Test" has a B-plot where Brenda Walsh (played by Shannen Doherty) discovers a lump on her breast, forcing her to get a biopsy. In 2015 Doherty revealed she had been diagnosed with breast cancer.

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* ''Series/BeverlyHills90210'': The Season 1 VerySpecialEpisode "It's Only a Test" has a B-plot where Brenda Walsh (played by Shannen Doherty) Creator/ShannenDoherty) discovers a lump on her breast, forcing her to get a biopsy. In 2015 Doherty revealed she had been diagnosed with breast cancer.
4th May '17 9:14:58 AM CosmicFerret
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* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "[[Recap/TheXFilesS01E13BeyondTheSea Beyond the Sea]]" opens with [[spoiler:Captain William Scully, Scully's father]], dying of a massive coronary off screen. Fourteen years later [[spoiler:Don S. Davis]] who played him would die of the exact same thing.

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* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "[[Recap/TheXFilesS01E13BeyondTheSea Beyond the Sea]]" opens with [[spoiler:Captain William Scully, Scully's father]], dying of a massive coronary off screen. Fourteen years later [[spoiler:Don S. Davis]] [[spoiler:Creator/DonSDavis]] who played him would die of the exact same thing.



* Speaking of Don S. Davis: in the ''Series/StargateSG1'' episode "[[Recap/StargateSG1S4E162010 2010]]", it was mentioned that General Hammond (Don S. Davis' character) had died of a massive heart attack in 2004. This was four years before Davis's fatal heart attack.

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* Speaking of Don S. Davis: Creator/DonSDavis: in the ''Series/StargateSG1'' episode "[[Recap/StargateSG1S4E162010 2010]]", it was mentioned that General Hammond (Don S. Davis' (Creator/DonSDavis' character) had died of a massive heart attack in 2004. This was four years before Davis's fatal heart attack.
4th Apr '17 8:39:55 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** The only episode that Creator/ChrisFarley hosted, which aired less than two months before he died of a drug overdose (it was the 23rd season[[note]]1997-1998[[/note]] and the musical guest for that episode was The Mighty Mighty Bosstones). Watching it again, it's hard not to notice how pale, clammy, and out of breath he is, not to mention his voice sounding really hoarse (which actually had more to do with him blowing it out during rehearsal, and not from drug abuse as initially speculated). In fact, Creator/ChrisRock was brought in as a back-up host in case anything happened to Farley (also Chevy Chase, even though Chase had been banned from ever hosting ''SNL'' again due to his JerkAss attitude).

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** The only episode that Creator/ChrisFarley hosted, which aired less than two months before he died of a drug overdose (it was the 23rd season[[note]]1997-1998[[/note]] and the musical guest for that episode was The Mighty Mighty Bosstones). Watching it again, it's hard not to notice how pale, clammy, and out of breath he is, not to mention his voice sounding really hoarse (which actually had more to do with him blowing it out during rehearsal, and not from drug abuse as initially speculated). In fact, Creator/ChrisRock was brought in as a back-up host in case anything happened to Farley (also Chevy Chase, Creator/ChevyChase, even though Chase had been banned from ever hosting ''SNL'' again due to his JerkAss attitude).



* The ending of the ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' episode "[[CelebrityParadox Mork Meets]] Creator/RobinWilliams", where Mork gives his report to Orson about the downside of fame, which ends with a listing of celebrities who became victims of their own fame (mostly from drug overdoses). About a year later, Robin's friend, John Belushi, would die of a drug overdose. It's also tough looking at that knowing that Robin himself had a pretty nasty cocaine habit at the time. He's said that John's death was one of the reasons he quit. Then, William's own suicide enters the picture...

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* The ending of the ''Series/MorkAndMindy'' episode "[[CelebrityParadox Mork Meets]] Creator/RobinWilliams", where Mork gives his report to Orson about the downside of fame, which ends with a listing of celebrities who became victims of their own fame (mostly from drug overdoses). About a year later, Robin's friend, John Belushi, Creator/JohnBelushi, would die of a drug overdose. It's also tough looking at that knowing that Robin himself had a pretty nasty cocaine habit at the time. He's said that John's death was one of the reasons he quit. Then, William's own suicide enters the picture...



** An in-universe example, the ending of the episode "Lie To Me". Depressing and sad when aired, but the characters hadn't suffered great tragedy or major deaths yet. By the time the show is over that ending is second only to "The Body" in tear factor.
** The season 3 episode "Earshot" -- whose plot involved a school sniper -- was originally withheld from airing in the U.S. because of the Columbine shootings in April 1999. The season finale, "Graduation Day, Part Two" was also postponed the following month for similar reasons. Both episodes eventually aired later that summer, "Graduation Day, Part Two" in July and "Earshot" in September.

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** An in-universe example, the ending of the episode "Lie "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS2E7LieToMe}} Lie To Me".Me]]". Depressing and sad when aired, but the characters hadn't suffered great tragedy or major deaths yet. By the time the show is over that ending is second only to "The Body" "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS5E16TheBody}} The Body]] " in tear factor.
** The season 3 episode "Earshot" "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E18Earshot}} Earshot]]" -- whose plot involved a school sniper -- was originally withheld from airing in the U.S. because of the Columbine shootings in April 1999. The season finale, "Graduation "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E22GraduationDayPart2}} Graduation Day, Part Two" 2]]" was also postponed the following month for similar reasons. Both episodes eventually aired later that summer, "Graduation "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E22GraduationDayPart2}} Graduation Day, Part Two" 2]]" in July and "Earshot" "[[{{Recap/BuffyTheVampireSlayerS3E18Earshot}} Earshot]]" in September.



** The Seventh Doctor, distraught over the [[spoiler: apparent death of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart,]] in "Battlefield", tells him "You should have died in bed!" Fast forward to "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E13TheWeddingOfRiverSong The Wedding of River Song]]"...
** The conclusion of ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames The War Games]]'' where the Doctor is forced to "change his appearance" before going into exile is now seen as being forced to use one of his 12 regenerations. Ergo, the modern viewer would see this as the Doctor being ''executed'' after a fashion by shortening his lifespan.

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** The Seventh Doctor, distraught over the [[spoiler: apparent death of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart,]] in "Battlefield", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield Battlefield]]", tells him "You should have died in bed!" Fast forward to "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E13TheWeddingOfRiverSong The Wedding of River Song]]"...
** The conclusion of ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS6E7TheWarGames The War Games]]'' Games]]" where the Doctor is forced to "change his appearance" before going into exile is now seen as being forced to use one of his 12 regenerations. Ergo, the modern viewer would see this as the Doctor being ''executed'' after a fashion by shortening his lifespan.



** In "The Pandorica Opens", the Eleventh Doctor makes a big, grandiose speech to all the alien spaceships, telling them that if they want the Pandorica, they have to get through him, and reminding them of all the times he beat them. [[spoiler: It turns out that the aliens weren't after the Pandorica at all, and it was instead a trap set by them to imprison The Doctor.]] Bet that speech doesn't seem so grand now.
** It is obviously unimaginably horrible to have your child stolen from you. This is made even worse when we find out in "Asylum of the Dalek s" that [[spoiler: Rory ALWAYS wanted children and Amy is infertile as a result of what happened on Demon's Run.]] Made even more heartbreaking when you realize that [[spoiler: Amy]] had a very noticeable BSOD in "A Good Man Goes to War" but [[spoiler: Rory]] never outwardly reacted, opting to stay strong for his wife even though he must have been completely crushed.
** "Day Of The Moon", in which Amy Pond [[spoiler: shoots the little girl in the astronaut suit to save the future Doctor's life]] becomes almost painful to watch when you realize that [[spoiler: said little girl was actually Melody/River Song, the baby daughter stolen from her later in the season]].

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** In "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E12ThePandoricaOpens The Pandorica Opens", Opens]]", the Eleventh Doctor makes a big, grandiose speech to all the alien spaceships, telling them that if they want the Pandorica, they have to get through him, and reminding them of all the times he beat them. [[spoiler: It turns out that the aliens weren't after the Pandorica at all, and it was instead a trap set by them to imprison The Doctor.]] Bet that speech doesn't seem so grand now.
** It is obviously unimaginably horrible to have your child stolen from you. This is made even worse when we find out in "Asylum "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E1AsylumOfTheDaleks Asylum of the Dalek s" Daleks]]" that [[spoiler: Rory ALWAYS wanted children and Amy is infertile as a result of what happened on Demon's Run.]] Made even more heartbreaking when you realize that [[spoiler: Amy]] had a very noticeable BSOD in "A "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E7AGoodManGoesToWar A Good Man Goes to War" War]]" but [[spoiler: Rory]] never outwardly reacted, opting to stay strong for his wife even though he must have been completely crushed.
** "Day Of The Moon", "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E2DayOfTheMoon Day of the Moon]]", in which Amy Pond [[spoiler: shoots the little girl in the astronaut suit to save the future Doctor's life]] becomes almost painful to watch when you realize that [[spoiler: said little girl was actually Melody/River Song, the baby daughter stolen from her later in the season]].



*** A DVD extra recorded in 2006 on "The Sontaran Experiment" briefly covers that sketch -- after a clip of the OhCrap from the Doctor and Tegan, Creator/ColinBaker notes, "Creator/JimmySavile is much more frightening than the Sontarans. Much more." This is only made worse after the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal.

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*** A DVD extra recorded in 2006 on "The "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS12E3TheSontaranExperiment The Sontaran Experiment" Experiment]]" briefly covers that sketch -- after a clip of the OhCrap from the Doctor and Tegan, Creator/ColinBaker notes, "Creator/JimmySavile is much more frightening than the Sontarans. Much more." This is only made worse after the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal.



* ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' story "Goodbye, Sarah Jane Smith" is about Sarah Jane struggling with senility brought on by a terminal illness. [[spoiler:In fact, the illness was fabricated by Sarah Jane's replacement, and once she's defeated, Sarah Jane instantly recovers.]] And to think Creator/ElisabethSladen must have known she was ill when she filmed them. The episode was also the last one to air while Lis Sladen was still alive.

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* ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' story "Goodbye, "[[Recap/TheSarahJaneAdventuresS4E11E12GoodbyeSarahJaneSmith Goodbye, Sarah Jane Smith" Smith]]" is about Sarah Jane struggling with senility brought on by a terminal illness. [[spoiler:In fact, the illness was fabricated by Sarah Jane's replacement, and once she's defeated, Sarah Jane instantly recovers.]] And to think Creator/ElisabethSladen must have known she was ill when she filmed them. The episode was also the last one to air while Lis Sladen was still alive.



** In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Assignment: Earth", Spock mentions that one of the events that occurred during the Enterprise's visit to Earth in 1968 was an assassination. The episode was first aired on March 29, 1968. Six days later, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was murdered. Robert F. Kennedy was killed that year as well.

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** In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Assignment: Earth", "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E26AssignmentEarth}} Assignment: Earth]]", Spock mentions that one of the events that occurred during the Enterprise's visit to Earth in 1968 was an assassination. The episode was first aired on March 29, 1968. Six days later, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was murdered. Robert F. Kennedy was killed that year as well.



*** The episodes involving Romulus have gained a little bit of a bittersweet overtone since their airing. "The Defector" had a disgraced and banished Romulan Admiral who'd defected to stop an all-out Romulan/Federation war [[spoiler:(actually part of a ploy by Romulus to ''start'' said war, albeit the Admiral didn't know that)]], leaving behind a suicide note to be delivered to his child; the ending played up the hopes that, one day, relations would eventually be good enough between the two sides that the Federation could deliver it personally. The two-parter "Unification" ends on a hopeful note that the young of Romulus will eventually replace their warmongering elders and embrace their relationship with Vulcan on far more friendly terms. [[spoiler:Neither will happen; the Romulus of this universe was canonically vaporized by a supernova in ''Film/StarTrek'', giving Nero the impetus to go back in time and screw around with the alternate universe of the Abrams films.]]
*** The second season episode "Pen Pals" has Wesley Crusher confiding to Commander Riker that he's scared of making a mistake where someone dies. [[spoiler:Wesley ends up making a stupid mistake that kills a Starfleet classmate in the fifth season episode "The First Duty".]]
*** Also in season 2, in "Up The Long Ladder", Riker gets offered the opportunity to be cloned. But he refuses, giving an impassioned speech about how cloning him diminishes him in ways he can't even imagine. In the sixth season episode "Second Chances", he finds out that he's had an identical duplicate, created by a TeleporterAccident, for years!
*** "The Wounded", the first episode to feature the Cardassians, has Picard hunting down [[MilitaryMaverick Capt. Benjamin Maxwell]], who has been conducting coordinated attacks against the Cardassians, suspecting that they've been rearming themselves, and asks Picard for his assistance. [[TheExtremistWasRight Although he is correct]], [[RealityEnsues he still gets arrested by Picard, who decides keeping the peace is more worthwhile]], but he tells the Cardassian leaders "We'll be watching..." But, in light of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', which showed the Cardassians helping spark the Dominion War, you can't help but wonder whether Picard should have taken Maxwell's advice after all. Maxwell's line "I have prevented war, or at the very least delayed it a good long time." stings more than ever.
*** In "Redemption: Part II", when the Enterprise crew first encounters [[IdenticalGrandson Sela]], the HalfHumanHybrid daughter of [[TimeyWimeyBall the alternate timeline Tasha Yar]] from "Yesterday's Enterprise", Dr. Crusher initially believes she was Tasha's clone created to try to undermine Starfleet. In ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'', Picard learns the Romulans had created a clone of ''him'' meant to KillAndReplace him, hoping to undermine Starfleet.

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*** The episodes involving Romulus have gained a little bit of a bittersweet overtone since their airing. "The Defector" " [[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS3E10TheDefector}} The Defector]]" had a disgraced and banished Romulan Admiral who'd defected to stop an all-out Romulan/Federation war [[spoiler:(actually part of a ploy by Romulus to ''start'' said war, albeit the Admiral didn't know that)]], leaving behind a suicide note to be delivered to his child; the ending played up the hopes that, one day, relations would eventually be good enough between the two sides that the Federation could deliver it personally. The two-parter "Unification" ends on a hopeful note that the young of Romulus will eventually replace their warmongering elders and embrace their relationship with Vulcan on far more friendly terms. [[spoiler:Neither will happen; the Romulus of this universe was canonically vaporized by a supernova in ''Film/StarTrek'', giving Nero the impetus to go back in time and screw around with the alternate universe of the Abrams films.]]
*** The second season episode "Pen Pals" "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E15PenPals}} Pen Pals]]" has Wesley Crusher confiding to Commander Riker that he's scared of making a mistake where someone dies. [[spoiler:Wesley ends up making a stupid mistake that kills a Starfleet classmate in the fifth season episode "The "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS5E19TheFirstDuty}} The First Duty".Duty]]".]]
*** Also in season 2, in "Up "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E18UpTheLongLadder}} Up The Long Ladder", Ladder]]", Riker gets offered the opportunity to be cloned. But he refuses, giving an impassioned speech about how cloning him diminishes him in ways he can't even imagine. In the sixth season episode "Second Chances", "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E22SecondChances}} Second Chances]]", he finds out that he's had an identical duplicate, created by a TeleporterAccident, for years!
*** "The Wounded", "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E12TheWounded}} The Wounded]]", the first episode to feature the Cardassians, has Picard hunting down [[MilitaryMaverick Capt. Benjamin Maxwell]], who has been conducting coordinated attacks against the Cardassians, suspecting that they've been rearming themselves, and asks Picard for his assistance. [[TheExtremistWasRight Although he is correct]], [[RealityEnsues he still gets arrested by Picard, who decides keeping the peace is more worthwhile]], but he tells the Cardassian leaders "We'll be watching..." But, in light of ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', which showed the Cardassians helping spark the Dominion War, you can't help but wonder whether Picard should have taken Maxwell's advice after all. Maxwell's line "I have prevented war, or at the very least delayed it a good long time." stings more than ever.
*** In "Redemption: "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS4E26S5E1Redemption}} Redemption]]: Part II", when the Enterprise crew first encounters [[IdenticalGrandson Sela]], the HalfHumanHybrid daughter of [[TimeyWimeyBall the alternate timeline Tasha Yar]] from "Yesterday's Enterprise", Dr. Crusher initially believes she was Tasha's clone created to try to undermine Starfleet. In ''Film/StarTrekNemesis'', Picard learns the Romulans had created a clone of ''him'' meant to KillAndReplace him, hoping to undermine Starfleet.



* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Beyond The Sea" opens with [[spoiler:Captain William Scully, Scully's father]], dying of a massive coronary off screen. Fourteen years later [[spoiler:Don S. Davis]] who played him would die of the exact same thing.
** In "Duane Barry," Mulder tries to intimidate a skeptical detective by asking if she'd like to know what aliens do to a woman's ovaries after abduction. This is incredibly harsh given what happens to Scully not one episode later and the ensuing physical trauma.
** In-Universe Example: In "Requiem," there are two notable scenes, one in which Mulder longingly watches Scully play with a witness's baby and the next scene, where he tells her the quest isn't worth it. These scenes are emotional enough, but become even more heartbreaking after watching season 8 and learning that [[spoiler: at the time "Requiem" was set, Mulder and Scully had gone through a round of IVF--which failed, and Mulder was secretly dying of brain cancer and did not expect to live long.]]
* Speaking of Don S. Davis: in the ''Series/StargateSG1'' episode "2010", it was mentioned that General Hammond (Don S. Davis' character) had died of a massive heart attack in 2004. This was four years before Davis's fatal heart attack.

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* ''Series/TheXFiles'' episode "Beyond The Sea" "[[Recap/TheXFilesS01E13BeyondTheSea Beyond the Sea]]" opens with [[spoiler:Captain William Scully, Scully's father]], dying of a massive coronary off screen. Fourteen years later [[spoiler:Don S. Davis]] who played him would die of the exact same thing.
** In "Duane Barry," "[[Recap/TheXFilesS02E05DuaneBarry Duane Barry]]", Mulder tries to intimidate a skeptical detective by asking if she'd like to know what aliens do to a woman's ovaries after abduction. This is incredibly harsh given what happens to Scully not one episode later and the ensuing physical trauma.
** In-Universe Example: In "Requiem," "[[Recap/TheXFilesS07E22Requiem Requiem]]" there are two notable scenes, one in which Mulder longingly watches Scully play with a witness's baby and the next scene, where he tells her the quest isn't worth it. These scenes are emotional enough, but become even more heartbreaking after watching season 8 and learning that [[spoiler: at the time "Requiem" was set, Mulder and Scully had gone through a round of IVF--which failed, and Mulder was secretly dying of brain cancer and did not expect to live long.]]
* Speaking of Don S. Davis: in the ''Series/StargateSG1'' episode "2010", "[[Recap/StargateSG1S4E162010 2010]]", it was mentioned that General Hammond (Don S. Davis' character) had died of a massive heart attack in 2004. This was four years before Davis's fatal heart attack.
1st Apr '17 5:07:44 PM Premonition45
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** The episodes involving Romulus have gained a little bit of a bittersweet overtone since their airing. "The Defector" had a disgraced and banished Romulan Admiral who'd defected to stop an all-out Romulan/Federation war [[spoiler:(actually part of a ploy by Romulus to ''start'' said war, albeit the Admiral didn't know that)]], leaving behind a suicide note to be delivered to his child; the ending played up the hopes that, one day, relations would eventually be good enough between the two sides that the Federation could deliver it personally. The two-parter "Unification" ends on a hopeful note that the young of Romulus will eventually replace their warmongering elders and embrace their relationship with Vulcan on far more friendly terms. [[spoiler:Neither will happen; the Romulus of this universe was canonically vaporized by a supernova in ''Film/StarTrek'', giving Nero the impetus to go back in time and screw around with the alternate universe of the Abrams films.]]

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** *** The episodes involving Romulus have gained a little bit of a bittersweet overtone since their airing. "The Defector" had a disgraced and banished Romulan Admiral who'd defected to stop an all-out Romulan/Federation war [[spoiler:(actually part of a ploy by Romulus to ''start'' said war, albeit the Admiral didn't know that)]], leaving behind a suicide note to be delivered to his child; the ending played up the hopes that, one day, relations would eventually be good enough between the two sides that the Federation could deliver it personally. The two-parter "Unification" ends on a hopeful note that the young of Romulus will eventually replace their warmongering elders and embrace their relationship with Vulcan on far more friendly terms. [[spoiler:Neither will happen; the Romulus of this universe was canonically vaporized by a supernova in ''Film/StarTrek'', giving Nero the impetus to go back in time and screw around with the alternate universe of the Abrams films.]]


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*** Also in season 2, in "Up The Long Ladder", Riker gets offered the opportunity to be cloned. But he refuses, giving an impassioned speech about how cloning him diminishes him in ways he can't even imagine. In the sixth season episode "Second Chances", he finds out that he's had an identical duplicate, created by a TeleporterAccident, for years!
24th Mar '17 5:58:17 PM dmcreif
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***''Series/IronFist2017'' gives a further explanation on the Hand's resurrection technique, revealing that it gradually chips further and further away at a person's humanity and identity each time. With Nobu already completely unaffected by cold at the start of the show, how far gone was he? On the plus side, the later show also confirms that he's dead for good, as cutting off their head makes it permanent.
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