History GrowingTheBeard / AnimeAndManga

20th Sep '16 7:01:37 PM darkabomination
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* ''Manga/SailorMoon'' spends its first volume on episodic mystery stories whilst gathering its main characters, mainly in the flavor of a superhero/detective story and then begins to grow its beard with [[spoiler:Sailor Venus' entry into the story, Sailor Moon's revealed status as the Moon Princess, and Mamoru's subsequent capture and FaceHeelTurn. Aside from these three major characters bringing full focus to the story's plot, the manga also does a GenreShift on the whole taking itself completely away from episodic superhero/detective stories and becomes a full-fledged mystery/fantasy story for the rest of its run.]] Rather humorously, Usagi's hair grows rather long [[spoiler:as a result of her awakened identity]] parallel to the story's grown beard.
* The first two seasons of ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' were pretty divisive, with a lot of criticism going to the uneven pacing and lackluster animation, as well as some very controversial creative decisions regarding the Shitenou. Season 3 won praise for having a noticeable AnimationBump and stronger writing.

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* ''Manga/SailorMoon'' spends took some time to find its voice. Although the novelty of combining the Sentai formula with the MagicalGirlGenre was unheard of at the time, the first volume played out as more of a Sentai series with its associated tropes transplanted into a Shoujo cast. Usagi was a lovable ditz who more often then not shirked her responsibilities as a Sailor Guardian as she spent much of her time uncertain about her WillTheyOrWontThey crush on resident hunk Mamoru. The first five chapters are spent introducing each Guardian as they befriend and join Usagi's team with the vague connecting plot thread of the villains looking for the Legendary Silver Crystal and Luna's search for the Moon Princess. The girls were likable and had a nice chemistry between them, but it couldn't sustain what was an episodic mystery stories whilst gathering its main characters, mainly in MonsterOfTheWeek ExcusePlot. With the flavor introduction of a superhero/detective story and then begins to grow its beard with [[spoiler:Sailor Venus' entry into the story, story as a wiser, more serious counterpoint to Usagi, she completed the team, the girls [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Mamoru]] fully awakening memories of their past lives, Sailor Moon's revealed status as the Moon Princess, Princess which brought some responsibility and darker elements to Usagi's carefree personality, and Mamoru's subsequent capture and FaceHeelTurn. Aside from these three major characters bringing full focus to the story's plot, the manga also does a GenreShift on the whole taking itself completely away from episodic superhero/detective stories phases out Usagi's Cutie Honey-esque transformations and broader Sentai tropes, and becomes a full-fledged mystery/fantasy MagicalGirl story with increasingly creepy and outlandish threats from space for the rest of its run.]] Rather humorously, Usagi's hair grows rather long [[spoiler:as a result of her awakened identity]] parallel to the story's grown beard.
* The first two seasons of ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' were pretty divisive, with a lot of criticism going to the uneven pacing and (initially on broadcast streaming) lackluster animation, as well as some very controversial creative decisions regarding the Shitenou. Shitenou, as well as Chibi-Usa's [[BaseBreakingCharacter usual reception across adaptations]]. Season 3 won praise for having a noticeable AnimationBump AnimationBump, made Chibi-Usa much more likable, and introduced the Outer Guardians as the writing became stronger writing.and the fight scenes much improved.


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* ''Anime/SelectorInfectedWixoss'' was already an interesting show to start with; a card game show that takes a darker, deconstructive approach to the [[SeriousBusiness typical mindsets]] of tcg protagonists with a MagicalGirl flavor. The fact that the Wixoss card game's rules are barely explained and largely glossed over put off some viewers, especially those that prefered the more over the top characters and situations of the genre. Despite that, if one sticks around, they'll find a lot of SliceOfLife material and a lot of cryptic dialogue from the girl's companion cards called LRIGs with only a handful of battles and a vague explanation of the overall goal of becoming an Eternal Girl to find their greatest wish. Keep at it and by episode 5 "This Invalidated Vow", resident cutie Hitoe [[spoiler:actually loses her three wishes, having her own wish of making friends inverted into a curse, reducing her to a psychologically fragile BrokenBird]]. When the consequences are revealed about what the card game actually does to its contestants and LRIGs, the extra time on characterization is used to give the cast a high degree of psychological complexity and misery that examines the motivations of girls willing to put their own desires over others, the selfish intentions behind personal goals, and the hangups that arise when a competetive game like Wixoss erodes friendships, showing the series has more in common with Madoka Magica than the standard card game series. It's also around this time that the manipulative BigBad shows up.
25th Aug '16 12:23:04 AM PaulA
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'' was always fairly unique as a shonen manga with its blend of action and humor. The first few arcs are decent, but not terribly notable. This changed ([[LongRunner relatively]]) early on with the Arlong Arc, combining great action scenes, suspense and character development that captivated the audience and made them really want to see Arlong rightfully ground into the dirt. And it's only gone up from there. This is the source of a common piece of advice for people considering if they want to read One Piece or not: "Read it up to the Arlong Arc. If you don't like it after that, it's not the series for you."

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'' was always fairly unique as a shonen manga with its blend of action and humor. The first few arcs are decent, but not terribly notable. This changed ([[LongRunner relatively]]) early on with the Arlong Arc, combining great action scenes, suspense and character development that captivated the audience and made them really want to see Arlong rightfully ground into the dirt. And it's only gone up from there. This is the source of a common piece of advice for people considering if they want to read One Piece or not: "Read it up to the Arlong Arc. If you don't like it after that, it's not the series for you."
20th Aug '16 1:33:06 PM Isaac_Heller
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* ''Anime/{{Pokémon}}'' has suffered from AnimationAgeGhetto and is generally agreed to be a GuiltyPleasure, but there are several parts of the series that older fans find accessible and/or good, the "Diamond and Pearl" series and the XY series being the most common contenders. The XY series in particular has gained positive reception, in the West, for it's AnimationBump, more layered plot and pandering to the older fanbase through the Mega-Evolution specials.
11th Aug '16 10:58:50 PM Anddrix
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* The first two seasons of ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' were pretty massive {{Base Breaker}}s, with a lot of criticism going to the uneven pacing and lackluster animation, as well as some very controversial creative decisions regarding the Shitenou. Season 3 won praise for having a noticeable AnimationBump and stronger writing.

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* The first two seasons of ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' were pretty massive {{Base Breaker}}s, divisive, with a lot of criticism going to the uneven pacing and lackluster animation, as well as some very controversial creative decisions regarding the Shitenou. Season 3 won praise for having a noticeable AnimationBump and stronger writing.
9th Aug '16 7:42:31 PM Willbyr
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* ''{{Muhyo and Roji}}'' gets quite a bit more interesting than a [[MonsterOftheWeek Ghost Of The Week]] series when Enchu is revealed as a BigBad, but the series truly gets interesting after [[spoiler:Rio]] is revealed as a traitor, when the plot shifts to the war against the evil Ark organization.

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* ''{{Muhyo and Roji}}'' ''Manga/MuhyoAndRoji'' gets quite a bit more interesting than a [[MonsterOftheWeek Ghost Of The Week]] series when Enchu is revealed as a BigBad, but the series truly gets interesting after [[spoiler:Rio]] is revealed as a traitor, when the plot shifts to the war against the evil Ark organization.
26th Jul '16 11:16:41 AM comicwriter
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* The first two seasons of ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' were pretty massive {{Base Breaker}}s, with a lot of criticism going to the uneven pacing and lackluster animation, as well as some very controversial creative decisions regarding the Shitenou. Season 3 won praise for having a noticeable AnimationBump and stronger writing.
26th Jul '16 10:23:13 AM Willbyr
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* Okay, ''KannazukiNoMiko'' is a TwelveEpisodeAnime, but it still grows a definite beard halfway through. Be patient with the silly mechas and shonen anime clichés -- when Chikane's issues take centre stage, that's when things are about to get way the hell more interesting.

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* Okay, ''KannazukiNoMiko'' ''Manga/KannazukiNoMiko'' is a TwelveEpisodeAnime, but it still grows a definite beard halfway through. Be patient with the silly mechas and shonen anime clichés -- when Chikane's issues take centre stage, that's when things are about to get way the hell more interesting.
18th Jun '16 7:04:23 AM Arcana4th
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* ''Anime/{{Kiznaiver}}'' did this from episode 8 and 9 onward. Before that, it received mixed reviews from fans, some thought that the idea was better than the execution, that it suffered from RomanticPlotTumor and that Maki Okada's involvement in the writing made the series overly melodramatic. After these episodes, the mysteries of the series set in, the ShipTease is more fitting, the characters have more depth, their dramas seem more believable and sympathetic to the fans and many fans enjoyed the tear jerking and the dramatic tone the series took.


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* ''Anime/{{Mayoiga}}'' did this from episode 7 onward. The series had a slow start, unsympathetic characters that were mostly bystanders, bland or screaming dumbasses, mysteries that made no sense and a plot that didn't really seem to go anywhere. From [[spoiler: Masaki's witch hunt]] from there on, the characters are shown to be more complex, the mysteries start to get solved and things get clearer, and the fans starting to genuinely enjoy the series, rather than consider it SoBadItsGood.
29th May '16 12:04:05 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist The 2003 anime version]] likewise picks up around the time of [[spoiler:Hughes' death]], splitting form the manga's storyline and evolving into a truly dark and compelling drama. By the time Ed fought [[spoiler:and killed]] Greed, its beard had grown out to roughly ZZTop proportions.

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** [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist The 2003 anime version]] likewise picks up around the time of [[spoiler:Hughes' death]], splitting form the manga's storyline and evolving into a truly dark and compelling drama. By the time Ed fought [[spoiler:and killed]] Greed, its beard had grown out to roughly ZZTop Music/ZZTop proportions.
10th May '16 7:09:51 AM GM_3826
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* LightNovel/IsItWrongToTryToPickUpGirlsInADungeon undergoes a noticeable shift in quality starting with Volume 5, where the story actually begins to challenge the main characters and the stakes become higher. The anime, however, does not do a very good job illustrating this, leading to criticism that the series arguably does not deserve.
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