History GenreSavvy / VideoGames

1st Oct '16 4:16:04 PM HighCrate
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** "I can't get over how fast they all are! It's not even fair, I'm calling zombie bullshit on that, you know? They're not... allowed to be so fast!"
** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, he wasn't going to kill her and it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]

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** "I -->"I can't get over how fast they all are! It's not even fair, I'm calling zombie bullshit on that, you know? They're not... allowed to be so fast!"
** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, he wasn't going to kill her and it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]
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1st Oct '16 3:59:19 PM Cakeman
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** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]

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** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, he wasn't going to kill her and it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]
30th Sep '16 7:21:43 AM HighCrate
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* Two examples of extremely Genre Savvy characters exist in ''VideoGame/Undertale''.
** [[spoiler:Flowey the Flower]] has this on account of the fact that [[spoiler: he ''knows'' about the Saving and Loading mechanics and not only retains his memory of what you do between loads as but also what you did during previous playthroughs. What's worse is that, during the final boss fight against him, ''he'' starts SaveScumming by creating savestates before he attacks and loading them if the attack misses.]] He also appears to have some further Genre Savviness as he subverts the ThisCannotBe speech several times throughout the game.
** [[spoiler:Sans the Skeleton]], on the other hand, is so Genre Savvy that he's gained [[spoiler: MediumAwareness. He not only knows of the "time travel" you can do, he's also aware of "the anomaly", the force behind the Playable Character, i.e., ''the player.'' Unfortunately, awareness of the fact that he, and everyone he loves, lives and dies at the whims of an inscrutable entity that can, and most likely ''will'', reset the timeline, even if they achieve the GoldenEnding, either for sheer entertainment's sake or to scratch some completionistic urge, [[DeconstructedTrope has turned Sans completely apathetic.]]]]
*** At the end of the KillEmAll route, he finally demonstrates what weaponized Genre Savvyness is like: [[spoiler: He robs you of the first round and launches a surprise AlphaStrike right off the bat, sometimes even interrupting his own PreAsskickingOneLiner just to catch you off-guard. In addition to that, he has made all his stats into {{Dump Stat}}s because he knows that, first of all, [[ScratchDamage attacks that only deal 1 HP damage]] [[DeathByAThousandCuts do not trigger the]] MercyInvincibility, bypassing your DF in the process, and secondly, you can kill anyone in one attack anyway, so more than [[OneHitPointWonder 1 HP and 1 DF]] is superfluous... however, he compensates for it by doing something no other monster in the game has thought of doing: Dodging your attacks, which makes ''your'' AT stat worthless. He also applies a DamageOverTime effect that gets worse ''for every frame you're in contact with his attacks.'' Halfway through the fight he offers you mercy: If you accept, he delivers an unavoidable OneHitKill attack, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard just like you did]] [[KarmicDeath to his brother]], and if you decline he TurnsRed and begins attacking your soul[=/=]cursor ''[[InterfaceScrew in your menu]] during your own turns.'' The final trick in Sans' book is to just wait, and since ''Undertale'' is a turn-based RPG, that means you never get to have your turn... Since Sans knows you can load every time the PC dies, he does all of this [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou in order to make "the anomaly"]] RageQuit.]]

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* Two examples of extremely Genre Savvy characters exist in ''VideoGame/Undertale''.
** [[spoiler:Flowey the Flower]] has this on account of the fact that [[spoiler: he ''knows'' about the Saving and Loading mechanics and not only retains his memory of what you do between loads as but also what you did during previous playthroughs. What's worse is that, during the final boss fight against him, ''he'' starts SaveScumming by creating savestates before he attacks and loading them if the attack misses.]] He also appears to have some further Genre Savviness as he subverts the ThisCannotBe speech several times throughout the game.
** [[spoiler:Sans the Skeleton]], on the other hand, is so Genre Savvy that he's gained [[spoiler: MediumAwareness. He not only knows of the "time travel" you can do, he's also aware of "the anomaly", the force behind the Playable Character, i.e., ''the player.'' Unfortunately, awareness of the fact that he, and everyone he loves, lives and dies at the whims of an inscrutable entity that can, and most likely ''will'', reset the timeline, even if they achieve the GoldenEnding, either for sheer entertainment's sake or to scratch some completionistic urge, [[DeconstructedTrope has turned Sans completely apathetic.]]]]
*** At the end of the KillEmAll route, he finally demonstrates what weaponized Genre Savvyness is like: [[spoiler: He robs you of the first round and launches a surprise AlphaStrike right off the bat, sometimes even interrupting his own PreAsskickingOneLiner just to catch you off-guard. In addition to that, he has made all his stats into {{Dump Stat}}s because he knows that, first of all, [[ScratchDamage attacks that only deal 1 HP damage]] [[DeathByAThousandCuts do not trigger the]] MercyInvincibility, bypassing your DF in the process, and secondly, you can kill anyone in one attack anyway, so more than [[OneHitPointWonder 1 HP and 1 DF]] is superfluous... however, he compensates for it by doing something no other monster in the game has thought of doing: Dodging your attacks, which makes ''your'' AT stat worthless. He also applies a DamageOverTime effect that gets worse ''for every frame you're in contact with his attacks.'' Halfway through the fight he offers you mercy: If you accept, he delivers an unavoidable OneHitKill attack, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard just like you did]] [[KarmicDeath to his brother]], and if you decline he TurnsRed and begins attacking your soul[=/=]cursor ''[[InterfaceScrew in your menu]] during your own turns.'' The final trick in Sans' book is to just wait, and since ''Undertale'' is a turn-based RPG, that means you never get to have your turn... Since Sans knows you can load every time the PC dies, he does all of this [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou in order to make "the anomaly"]] RageQuit.]]
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30th Sep '16 7:05:37 AM IamTheCaligula
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.time.
* Two examples of extremely Genre Savvy characters exist in ''VideoGame/Undertale''.
** [[spoiler:Flowey the Flower]] has this on account of the fact that [[spoiler: he ''knows'' about the Saving and Loading mechanics and not only retains his memory of what you do between loads as but also what you did during previous playthroughs. What's worse is that, during the final boss fight against him, ''he'' starts SaveScumming by creating savestates before he attacks and loading them if the attack misses.]] He also appears to have some further Genre Savviness as he subverts the ThisCannotBe speech several times throughout the game.
** [[spoiler:Sans the Skeleton]], on the other hand, is so Genre Savvy that he's gained [[spoiler: MediumAwareness. He not only knows of the "time travel" you can do, he's also aware of "the anomaly", the force behind the Playable Character, i.e., ''the player.'' Unfortunately, awareness of the fact that he, and everyone he loves, lives and dies at the whims of an inscrutable entity that can, and most likely ''will'', reset the timeline, even if they achieve the GoldenEnding, either for sheer entertainment's sake or to scratch some completionistic urge, [[DeconstructedTrope has turned Sans completely apathetic.]]]]
*** At the end of the KillEmAll route, he finally demonstrates what weaponized Genre Savvyness is like: [[spoiler: He robs you of the first round and launches a surprise AlphaStrike right off the bat, sometimes even interrupting his own PreAsskickingOneLiner just to catch you off-guard. In addition to that, he has made all his stats into {{Dump Stat}}s because he knows that, first of all, [[ScratchDamage attacks that only deal 1 HP damage]] [[DeathByAThousandCuts do not trigger the]] MercyInvincibility, bypassing your DF in the process, and secondly, you can kill anyone in one attack anyway, so more than [[OneHitPointWonder 1 HP and 1 DF]] is superfluous... however, he compensates for it by doing something no other monster in the game has thought of doing: Dodging your attacks, which makes ''your'' AT stat worthless. He also applies a DamageOverTime effect that gets worse ''for every frame you're in contact with his attacks.'' Halfway through the fight he offers you mercy: If you accept, he delivers an unavoidable OneHitKill attack, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard just like you did]] [[KarmicDeath to his brother]], and if you decline he TurnsRed and begins attacking your soul[=/=]cursor ''[[InterfaceScrew in your menu]] during your own turns.'' The final trick in Sans' book is to just wait, and since ''Undertale'' is a turn-based RPG, that means you never get to have your turn... Since Sans knows you can load every time the PC dies, he does all of this [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou in order to make "the anomaly"]] RageQuit.]]
31st Aug '16 6:03:58 AM HighCrate
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* ''VideoGame/KingOfFighters'' uses this trope as the justification for GameplayAndStorySegregation: Sie Kensou is said to possess the Dragon Power, a mysterious and incredible power that has [[CutscenePowerToTheMax (in a cutscene)]] deflected a KillSat, but doesn't seem to have any effect on his gameplay performance. According to Kensou himself, he's trying to be very judicious with the Dragon Power because he's seen countless people (most of the ''KOF'' final bosses, really) kill themselves by tapping into forces beyond their control or understanding.

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* ''VideoGame/KingOfFighters'' uses this trope as the justification for GameplayAndStorySegregation: Sie Kensou is said to possess the Dragon Power, a mysterious and incredible power that has [[CutscenePowerToTheMax (in a cutscene)]] deflected a KillSat, but doesn't seem to have any effect on his gameplay performance. According to Kensou himself, he's trying to be very judicious with the Dragon Power because he's seen countless people (most of the ''KOF'' final bosses, really) kill themselves by tapping into forces beyond their control or understanding.
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30th Aug '16 8:33:09 PM LinTaylor
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.time.
* ''VideoGame/KingOfFighters'' uses this trope as the justification for GameplayAndStorySegregation: Sie Kensou is said to possess the Dragon Power, a mysterious and incredible power that has [[CutscenePowerToTheMax (in a cutscene)]] deflected a KillSat, but doesn't seem to have any effect on his gameplay performance. According to Kensou himself, he's trying to be very judicious with the Dragon Power because he's seen countless people (most of the ''KOF'' final bosses, really) kill themselves by tapping into forces beyond their control or understanding.
27th Jul '16 10:02:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* Almost ''all'' the characters in the ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'' series, particularly [[VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness Etna]]. Mao from the [[VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice third game]] is [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerously so]], concluding that the quickest method of kicking his dad off the throne and rule with his own iron fist is to actually ''become the hero'' of the game.

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* Almost ''all'' the characters in the ''Franchise/{{Disgaea}}'' series, particularly [[VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness Etna]]. Mao from the [[VideoGame/Disgaea3AbsenceOfJustice third game]] is [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy dangerously so]], so, concluding that the quickest method of kicking his dad off the throne and rule with his own iron fist is to actually ''become the hero'' of the game.



* Both Ben and Dan in ''VideoGame/BenThereDanThat'' and its sequel are aware at all times that they're in a [[AdventureGame point-and-click]], and specifically that it's one of the LucasArts school which doesn't punish the player with deaths or {{Unwinnable}} situations. This is frequently used to justify their more dangerous antics and their [[TooDumbToLive lack of any fear of death]], as well as Ben's [[KleptomaniacHero kleptomania]] and [[MoonLogicPuzzle deliberately trying to come up with convoluted ways of doing simple things]]. The aliens, however, are DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and reveal at the end of ''Ben There Dan That'' that their abduction of Ben and Dan and forcing them to go through a point-and-click adventure game was just there to [[YouAreTooLate keep them clicking about long enough for the aliens to enact their real evil plan.]]

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* Both Ben and Dan in ''VideoGame/BenThereDanThat'' and its sequel are aware at all times that they're in a [[AdventureGame point-and-click]], and specifically that it's one of the LucasArts school which doesn't punish the player with deaths or {{Unwinnable}} situations. This is frequently used to justify their more dangerous antics and their [[TooDumbToLive lack of any fear of death]], as well as Ben's [[KleptomaniacHero kleptomania]] and [[MoonLogicPuzzle deliberately trying to come up with convoluted ways of doing simple things]]. The aliens, however, are DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and reveal at the end of ''Ben There Dan That'' that their abduction of Ben and Dan and forcing them to go through a point-and-click adventure game was just there to [[YouAreTooLate keep them clicking about long enough for the aliens to enact their real evil plan.]]
23rd Jul '16 10:57:05 PM HighCrate
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* When Cassandra begins interrogating Varric in ''VideoGame/DragonAge2'' he spins an unbelievable story of what happened. Cassandra quickly thinks, "I call bullshit" and gets him to tell the truth, even though what he says matches the legend.
23rd Jul '16 8:20:05 PM tsstevens
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* When Cassandra begins interrogating Varric in ''VideoGame/DragonAge2'' he spins an unbelievable story of what happened. Cassandra quickly thinks, "I call bullshit" and gets him to tell the truth, even though what he says matches the legend.
23rd Apr '16 3:45:59 PM TheGreatUnknown
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** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, it was a pointless sacrifice]]

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** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, it was a pointless sacrifice]]SenselessSacrifice.]]
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