History GenreSavvy / VideoGames

16th May '17 11:15:53 PM somestrangecircus
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** Tragically deconstructed in the comic. [[spoiler: When Zoey's mother turned and bit him just before she died, Zoey's father immediately knew that he was next and had her shoot him to prevent this from happening. As Zoey later learns from a military doctor, this was entirely pointless. The carrier virus that Zoey and the rest of the group have is inherited from the male line, meaning that Zoey had to have inherited it from her father, meaning that he never would have turned.]]

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** Tragically deconstructed in the comic. [[spoiler: When Zoey's mother turned into a zombie and bit him just before she died, managed to bite Zoey's father immediately before she died. Zoey's father knew that he was next and had her shoot Zoey mercy kill him to prevent this from happening. As Zoey later learns from a military doctor, this was entirely pointless. The carrier virus that Zoey and the rest of the group have is inherited from the male line, meaning that Zoey had to have inherited it from her father, meaning that he never would have turned.]]
16th May '17 11:14:42 PM somestrangecircus
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** Tragically deconstructed in the comic. [[spoiler: When Zoey's mother turned and bit him just before she died, Zoey's father immediately knew that he was next and had her shoot him to prevent this from happening. As Zoey later learns from a military doctor, this was entirely pointless. The carrier virus that Zoey and the rest of the group have is inherited from the male line, meaning that Zoey had to have inherited it from her father, meaning that he never would have turned.]]
14th Jan '17 6:33:53 PM nombretomado
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* Both Ben and Dan in ''VideoGame/BenThereDanThat'' and its sequel are aware at all times that they're in a [[AdventureGame point-and-click]], and specifically that it's one of the LucasArts school which doesn't punish the player with deaths or {{Unwinnable}} situations. This is frequently used to justify their more dangerous antics and their [[TooDumbToLive lack of any fear of death]], as well as Ben's [[KleptomaniacHero kleptomania]] and [[MoonLogicPuzzle deliberately trying to come up with convoluted ways of doing simple things]]. The aliens, however, reveal at the end of ''Ben There Dan That'' that their abduction of Ben and Dan and forcing them to go through a point-and-click adventure game was just there to [[YouAreTooLate keep them clicking about long enough for the aliens to enact their real evil plan.]]

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* Both Ben and Dan in ''VideoGame/BenThereDanThat'' and its sequel are aware at all times that they're in a [[AdventureGame point-and-click]], and specifically that it's one of the LucasArts Creator/LucasArts school which doesn't punish the player with deaths or {{Unwinnable}} situations. This is frequently used to justify their more dangerous antics and their [[TooDumbToLive lack of any fear of death]], as well as Ben's [[KleptomaniacHero kleptomania]] and [[MoonLogicPuzzle deliberately trying to come up with convoluted ways of doing simple things]]. The aliens, however, reveal at the end of ''Ben There Dan That'' that their abduction of Ben and Dan and forcing them to go through a point-and-click adventure game was just there to [[YouAreTooLate keep them clicking about long enough for the aliens to enact their real evil plan.]]
26th Dec '16 12:28:06 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Refreshingly, the main character in ''ShinMegamiTensei: VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' can be played this way. Often, the main character can explain the plot to the other characters in the party. There's usually two dialogue options: Genre Savvy and Panicking/Has no idea what's going on. In most [=RPG=]s, the main character is prevented from being genre savvy in favor of having an ExpositionFairy explain everything for them. As a result, there's not really any scenes in the game where the main character says things like [[GenreBlind "That demonic cult member said he wanted to destroy the world with demons! I wonder what that could mean? Please explain it to me, party members."]][[note]]That's [[TheChick Yuzu's]] [[TheWatson job]].[[/note]]



%%** [[PlayerCharacter The Inquisitor]] himself/herself can be this if the player picks certain dialogue choices.
1st Oct '16 4:16:04 PM HighCrate
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** "I can't get over how fast they all are! It's not even fair, I'm calling zombie bullshit on that, you know? They're not... allowed to be so fast!"
** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, he wasn't going to kill her and it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]

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** "I -->"I can't get over how fast they all are! It's not even fair, I'm calling zombie bullshit on that, you know? They're not... allowed to be so fast!"
** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, he wasn't going to kill her and it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]
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1st Oct '16 3:59:19 PM Cakeman
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** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]

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** Unfortunately she's also WrongGenreSavvy in the comic The Sacrifice she finds out that [[spoiler:Her father was actually a carrier so when she shot him in a mercy killing after he was bitten, he wasn't going to kill her and it was a SenselessSacrifice.]]
30th Sep '16 7:21:43 AM HighCrate
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* Two examples of extremely Genre Savvy characters exist in ''VideoGame/Undertale''.
** [[spoiler:Flowey the Flower]] has this on account of the fact that [[spoiler: he ''knows'' about the Saving and Loading mechanics and not only retains his memory of what you do between loads as but also what you did during previous playthroughs. What's worse is that, during the final boss fight against him, ''he'' starts SaveScumming by creating savestates before he attacks and loading them if the attack misses.]] He also appears to have some further Genre Savviness as he subverts the ThisCannotBe speech several times throughout the game.
** [[spoiler:Sans the Skeleton]], on the other hand, is so Genre Savvy that he's gained [[spoiler: MediumAwareness. He not only knows of the "time travel" you can do, he's also aware of "the anomaly", the force behind the Playable Character, i.e., ''the player.'' Unfortunately, awareness of the fact that he, and everyone he loves, lives and dies at the whims of an inscrutable entity that can, and most likely ''will'', reset the timeline, even if they achieve the GoldenEnding, either for sheer entertainment's sake or to scratch some completionistic urge, [[DeconstructedTrope has turned Sans completely apathetic.]]]]
*** At the end of the KillEmAll route, he finally demonstrates what weaponized Genre Savvyness is like: [[spoiler: He robs you of the first round and launches a surprise AlphaStrike right off the bat, sometimes even interrupting his own PreAsskickingOneLiner just to catch you off-guard. In addition to that, he has made all his stats into {{Dump Stat}}s because he knows that, first of all, [[ScratchDamage attacks that only deal 1 HP damage]] [[DeathByAThousandCuts do not trigger the]] MercyInvincibility, bypassing your DF in the process, and secondly, you can kill anyone in one attack anyway, so more than [[OneHitPointWonder 1 HP and 1 DF]] is superfluous... however, he compensates for it by doing something no other monster in the game has thought of doing: Dodging your attacks, which makes ''your'' AT stat worthless. He also applies a DamageOverTime effect that gets worse ''for every frame you're in contact with his attacks.'' Halfway through the fight he offers you mercy: If you accept, he delivers an unavoidable OneHitKill attack, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard just like you did]] [[KarmicDeath to his brother]], and if you decline he TurnsRed and begins attacking your soul[=/=]cursor ''[[InterfaceScrew in your menu]] during your own turns.'' The final trick in Sans' book is to just wait, and since ''Undertale'' is a turn-based RPG, that means you never get to have your turn... Since Sans knows you can load every time the PC dies, he does all of this [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou in order to make "the anomaly"]] RageQuit.]]

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* Two examples of extremely Genre Savvy characters exist in ''VideoGame/Undertale''.
** [[spoiler:Flowey the Flower]] has this on account of the fact that [[spoiler: he ''knows'' about the Saving and Loading mechanics and not only retains his memory of what you do between loads as but also what you did during previous playthroughs. What's worse is that, during the final boss fight against him, ''he'' starts SaveScumming by creating savestates before he attacks and loading them if the attack misses.]] He also appears to have some further Genre Savviness as he subverts the ThisCannotBe speech several times throughout the game.
** [[spoiler:Sans the Skeleton]], on the other hand, is so Genre Savvy that he's gained [[spoiler: MediumAwareness. He not only knows of the "time travel" you can do, he's also aware of "the anomaly", the force behind the Playable Character, i.e., ''the player.'' Unfortunately, awareness of the fact that he, and everyone he loves, lives and dies at the whims of an inscrutable entity that can, and most likely ''will'', reset the timeline, even if they achieve the GoldenEnding, either for sheer entertainment's sake or to scratch some completionistic urge, [[DeconstructedTrope has turned Sans completely apathetic.]]]]
*** At the end of the KillEmAll route, he finally demonstrates what weaponized Genre Savvyness is like: [[spoiler: He robs you of the first round and launches a surprise AlphaStrike right off the bat, sometimes even interrupting his own PreAsskickingOneLiner just to catch you off-guard. In addition to that, he has made all his stats into {{Dump Stat}}s because he knows that, first of all, [[ScratchDamage attacks that only deal 1 HP damage]] [[DeathByAThousandCuts do not trigger the]] MercyInvincibility, bypassing your DF in the process, and secondly, you can kill anyone in one attack anyway, so more than [[OneHitPointWonder 1 HP and 1 DF]] is superfluous... however, he compensates for it by doing something no other monster in the game has thought of doing: Dodging your attacks, which makes ''your'' AT stat worthless. He also applies a DamageOverTime effect that gets worse ''for every frame you're in contact with his attacks.'' Halfway through the fight he offers you mercy: If you accept, he delivers an unavoidable OneHitKill attack, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard just like you did]] [[KarmicDeath to his brother]], and if you decline he TurnsRed and begins attacking your soul[=/=]cursor ''[[InterfaceScrew in your menu]] during your own turns.'' The final trick in Sans' book is to just wait, and since ''Undertale'' is a turn-based RPG, that means you never get to have your turn... Since Sans knows you can load every time the PC dies, he does all of this [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou in order to make "the anomaly"]] RageQuit.]]
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30th Sep '16 7:05:37 AM IamTheCaligula
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.time.
* Two examples of extremely Genre Savvy characters exist in ''VideoGame/Undertale''.
** [[spoiler:Flowey the Flower]] has this on account of the fact that [[spoiler: he ''knows'' about the Saving and Loading mechanics and not only retains his memory of what you do between loads as but also what you did during previous playthroughs. What's worse is that, during the final boss fight against him, ''he'' starts SaveScumming by creating savestates before he attacks and loading them if the attack misses.]] He also appears to have some further Genre Savviness as he subverts the ThisCannotBe speech several times throughout the game.
** [[spoiler:Sans the Skeleton]], on the other hand, is so Genre Savvy that he's gained [[spoiler: MediumAwareness. He not only knows of the "time travel" you can do, he's also aware of "the anomaly", the force behind the Playable Character, i.e., ''the player.'' Unfortunately, awareness of the fact that he, and everyone he loves, lives and dies at the whims of an inscrutable entity that can, and most likely ''will'', reset the timeline, even if they achieve the GoldenEnding, either for sheer entertainment's sake or to scratch some completionistic urge, [[DeconstructedTrope has turned Sans completely apathetic.]]]]
*** At the end of the KillEmAll route, he finally demonstrates what weaponized Genre Savvyness is like: [[spoiler: He robs you of the first round and launches a surprise AlphaStrike right off the bat, sometimes even interrupting his own PreAsskickingOneLiner just to catch you off-guard. In addition to that, he has made all his stats into {{Dump Stat}}s because he knows that, first of all, [[ScratchDamage attacks that only deal 1 HP damage]] [[DeathByAThousandCuts do not trigger the]] MercyInvincibility, bypassing your DF in the process, and secondly, you can kill anyone in one attack anyway, so more than [[OneHitPointWonder 1 HP and 1 DF]] is superfluous... however, he compensates for it by doing something no other monster in the game has thought of doing: Dodging your attacks, which makes ''your'' AT stat worthless. He also applies a DamageOverTime effect that gets worse ''for every frame you're in contact with his attacks.'' Halfway through the fight he offers you mercy: If you accept, he delivers an unavoidable OneHitKill attack, [[HoistByHisOwnPetard just like you did]] [[KarmicDeath to his brother]], and if you decline he TurnsRed and begins attacking your soul[=/=]cursor ''[[InterfaceScrew in your menu]] during your own turns.'' The final trick in Sans' book is to just wait, and since ''Undertale'' is a turn-based RPG, that means you never get to have your turn... Since Sans knows you can load every time the PC dies, he does all of this [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou in order to make "the anomaly"]] RageQuit.]]
31st Aug '16 6:03:58 AM HighCrate
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* ''VideoGame/KingOfFighters'' uses this trope as the justification for GameplayAndStorySegregation: Sie Kensou is said to possess the Dragon Power, a mysterious and incredible power that has [[CutscenePowerToTheMax (in a cutscene)]] deflected a KillSat, but doesn't seem to have any effect on his gameplay performance. According to Kensou himself, he's trying to be very judicious with the Dragon Power because he's seen countless people (most of the ''KOF'' final bosses, really) kill themselves by tapping into forces beyond their control or understanding.

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.
* ''VideoGame/KingOfFighters'' uses this trope as the justification for GameplayAndStorySegregation: Sie Kensou is said to possess the Dragon Power, a mysterious and incredible power that has [[CutscenePowerToTheMax (in a cutscene)]] deflected a KillSat, but doesn't seem to have any effect on his gameplay performance. According to Kensou himself, he's trying to be very judicious with the Dragon Power because he's seen countless people (most of the ''KOF'' final bosses, really) kill themselves by tapping into forces beyond their control or understanding.
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30th Aug '16 8:33:09 PM LinTaylor
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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.

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* Geralt of ''VideoGame/TheWitcher''. He's well aware of traditional fantasy stories, and [[TheSnarkKnight of course being the kind of person he is]], sarcastically brings them up from time to time.time.
* ''VideoGame/KingOfFighters'' uses this trope as the justification for GameplayAndStorySegregation: Sie Kensou is said to possess the Dragon Power, a mysterious and incredible power that has [[CutscenePowerToTheMax (in a cutscene)]] deflected a KillSat, but doesn't seem to have any effect on his gameplay performance. According to Kensou himself, he's trying to be very judicious with the Dragon Power because he's seen countless people (most of the ''KOF'' final bosses, really) kill themselves by tapping into forces beyond their control or understanding.
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