History GenreSavvy / LiveActionTV

26th Sep '16 9:22:05 AM HighCrate
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** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2007CSVoyageOfTheDamned]], after two disastrous Christmas's in a row, the ''entire city of London'', wises up and evacuates before the disaster even happens.
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E2TheShakespeareCode The Shakespeare Code]]'', [[ShakespeareInFiction William Shakespeare]] is also pretty savvy, [[TheZerothLawOfTropeExamples rather unsurprisingly]]. [[spoiler: He even figures out on his own that the Doctor is a time traveller.]]
26th Sep '16 8:42:52 AM Jgamer
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** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2007CSVoyageOfTheDamned]], after two disastrous Christmas's in a row, the ''entire city of London'', wises up and evacuates before the disaster even happens.
15th May '16 6:58:51 PM WillBGood
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* In the famous ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street," Claude Akins' character recognizes the neighborhood is in a Crucible-esque story. He tells his friends and neighbors that if they keep going the way they're going, they'll end up accusing each other of being aliens in a paranoid fit. The Twilight Zone being The Twilight Zone, no one listens.
-->'''Poirot''': It is better zis way. Some courts, zey do not accept ze evil voice as evidence.

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* In the famous ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street," Claude Akins' character recognizes the neighborhood is in a Crucible-esque story. He tells his friends and neighbors that if they keep going the way they're going, they'll end up accusing each other of being aliens in a paranoid fit. The Twilight Zone being The Twilight Zone, no one listens.
-->'''Poirot''': It is better zis way. Some courts, zey do not accept ze evil voice as evidence.
listens.
15th May '16 6:57:38 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].

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* ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy Genre Savvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].



** Hiro Nakamura. "You're telling us your plan? What kind of overconfident nemesis are you?" Though not GenreSavvy enough to just listen to the plan. Given that he's read lots of superhero comics...

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** Hiro Nakamura. "You're telling us your plan? What kind of overconfident nemesis are you?" Though not GenreSavvy Genre Savvy enough to just listen to the plan. Given that he's read lots of superhero comics...



* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': Some (but not all) of the characters are GenreSavvy. Boone suspects he is a RedShirt. Hurley and Charlie often question the wisdom of traipsing into a monster-inhabited jungle.

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* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': Some (but not all) of the characters are GenreSavvy.Genre Savvy. Boone suspects he is a RedShirt. Hurley and Charlie often question the wisdom of traipsing into a monster-inhabited jungle.



* ''Series/TheMiddleman'': The Middleman himself and his SideKick Wendy are both GenreSavvy, as is potential {{Love Interest|s}} Tyler. Their knowledge of comic book tropes is part and parcel of the job they do.

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* ''Series/TheMiddleman'': The Middleman himself and his SideKick Wendy are both GenreSavvy, Genre Savvy, as is potential {{Love Interest|s}} Tyler. Their knowledge of comic book tropes is part and parcel of the job they do.



** Being in a town full of amnesiac storybook characters, and armed with a book of fairy tales allows Henry to augment his already considerable GuileHero skills. Between this and the LivingLieDetector ability he inherited from his mother, his GenreSavvy borders on superhuman.

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** Being in a town full of amnesiac storybook characters, and armed with a book of fairy tales allows Henry to augment his already considerable GuileHero skills. Between this and the LivingLieDetector ability he inherited from his mother, his GenreSavvy Genre Savvy borders on superhuman.



* ''Series/OrphanBlack'': Streetwise con-artist clone Sarah Manning has a GenreSavvy moment when she first meets corporate "ProClone" Rachel Duncan and quips "Is this the part when 20 more of you robot bitches walk in for effect?"

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* ''Series/OrphanBlack'': Streetwise con-artist clone Sarah Manning has a GenreSavvy Genre Savvy moment when she first meets corporate "ProClone" "[=ProClone=]" Rachel Duncan and quips "Is this the part when 20 more of you robot bitches walk in for effect?"



** Sisko isn't the only one either; Dax (or at least ''Jadzia'') occasionally has flashes of this, but usually only enough to [[DeadpanSnarker get a good line in]]. Garak on the other hand seems to know he's trapped in a fictional world, usually using his savvy to poke fun at Dr. Bashir's chronic GenreBlindness. Which is even funnier because Bashir's main hobby for much of the later seasons is playing holographic recreations of not-quite-Bond novels, about which ''he'' is extremely GenreSavvy and Garak knows ''nothing''... there's extra bonus irony from Garak being an ''actual'' former intelligence officer who sardonically observes that all of Bashir's crazy antics in saving the day according to the rules of the fictional spy plot they're enacting is much rosier than the real thing which is exactly why Bashir can solve the programme and Garak can't (Garak thinks like a "real" intelligence agent, Bashir thinks like a "fictional" (re: romanticised) one. At least Garak appreciates the fancy tuxedos that he and Bashir get to wear as part of the game. (Garak also being a tailor and all.)

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** Sisko isn't the only one either; Dax (or at least ''Jadzia'') occasionally has flashes of this, but usually only enough to [[DeadpanSnarker get a good line in]]. Garak on the other hand seems to know he's trapped in a fictional world, usually using his savvy to poke fun at Dr. Bashir's chronic GenreBlindness. Which is even funnier because Bashir's main hobby for much of the later seasons is playing holographic recreations of not-quite-Bond novels, about which ''he'' is extremely GenreSavvy Genre Savvy and Garak knows ''nothing''... there's extra bonus irony from Garak being an ''actual'' former intelligence officer who sardonically observes that all of Bashir's crazy antics in saving the day according to the rules of the fictional spy plot they're enacting is much rosier than the real thing which is exactly why Bashir can solve the programme and Garak can't (Garak thinks like a "real" intelligence agent, Bashir thinks like a "fictional" (re: romanticised) one. At least Garak appreciates the fancy tuxedos that he and Bashir get to wear as part of the game. (Garak also being a tailor and all.)



** The episode "Elementary, My Dear Data" has its major conflict come up because of Data, in the role of Sherlock Holmes in a holodeck story, veering past GenreSavvy straight into [[spoiler:cutting straight to the ending by telling the first policeman he sees who the villain is and the crime because he already knew the story without doing any sleuthing]]; the resultant discussion over how Data could "enjoy" the exercise leads to the self-inflicted, ship-endangering mishap of the week.

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** The episode "Elementary, My Dear Data" has its major conflict come up because of Data, in the role of Sherlock Holmes in a holodeck story, veering past GenreSavvy Genre Savvy straight into [[spoiler:cutting straight to the ending by telling the first policeman he sees who the villain is and the crime because he already knew the story without doing any sleuthing]]; the resultant discussion over how Data could "enjoy" the exercise leads to the self-inflicted, ship-endangering mishap of the week.
15th May '16 6:56:05 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Abed is GenreSavvy beyond all reason (he knows he's in a sitcom) and something of a deconstruction of the concept. He has an exhaustive knowledge of media and its tropes, but as he acknowledges a couple of times in the series, that doesn't necessarily lead to him being able to create great drama. At one point he revises a horror story to get rid of all the cliches (see right below), but in doing so robs of it any drama or tension. He can find all the plotholes and he can recognize all the parts to a story, but that's different from being a truly good writer.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Abed is GenreSavvy Genre Savvy beyond all reason (he knows he's in a sitcom) and something of a deconstruction of the concept. He has an exhaustive knowledge of media and its tropes, but as he acknowledges a couple of times in the series, that doesn't necessarily lead to him being able to create great drama. At one point he revises a horror story to get rid of all the cliches (see right below), cliches, but in doing so robs of it any drama or tension. He can find all the plotholes and he can recognize all the parts to a story, but that's different from being a truly good writer.
15th May '16 6:55:16 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/{{Castle}}'': Richard Castle is amazingly {{genre savvy}}, being a mystery novelist in a PoliceProcedural, and uses this to help the actual police. His partner pokes fun at this, but it works.

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* ''Series/{{Castle}}'': Richard Castle is amazingly {{genre savvy}}, genre savvy, being a mystery novelist in a PoliceProcedural, and uses this to help the actual police. His partner pokes fun at this, but it works.



--> Ryan:'You know, if this was a horror movie, we'd be the first to die.'
--> Esposito:'Please, we're trained police with rifles.'
--> Ryan:'Cocky black guy. You definitely die first.'

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--> Ryan:'You --->'''Ryan:''' You know, if this was a horror movie, we'd be the first to die.'
--> Esposito:'Please,
die.
--->'''Esposito:''' Please,
we're trained police with rifles.'
--> Ryan:'Cocky
rifles.
--->'''Ryan:''' Cocky
black guy. You definitely die first.'



---->Castle:'You know, if this was a horror movie...'
---->Beckett:'Shut up, Castle.

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---->Castle:'You --->'''Castle:''' You know, if this was a horror movie...'
---->Beckett:'Shut
movie...
--->'''Beckett:''' Shut
up, Castle.
13th Apr '16 10:57:12 AM lexicon
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** When the villain is finally revealed, he angrily says that [[spoiler:the first person killed in the local legend was his father (he thinks it's disgusting that people are joking about this sort of thing, which is why he's killing them).]] Shawn's response is a resigned/frustrated "Of ''course'' it was!"
* Since it's a HorrorComedy, most of the cast of ''Series/ScreamQueens2015'' are quite understanding of the tropes of both the SlasherFilm and High School Drama.
** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] by Grace - she grew up watching slasher films with her father so she knows the typical twists and turns, but she turns out to be ''too'' genre savvy because she keeps trying to connect [[spoiler: the Bathtub Baby]] to the murders [[spoiler: thereby making herself a suspect.]] She also briefly distrusts [[LoveInterest Pete]] because [[spoiler: he's the school's mascot so owns a Red Devil costume, the disguise used by the killer]].
*** She is smart enough to try and convince Zayday that they'll be safer if they quit Kappa though.
** Pete is on the same level of GenreSavvy as Grace, with one key difference - he's smart enough to ''avoid'' the same trappings she falls into.

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* ''Series/ScreamQueens2015''
** When the villain is finally revealed, he angrily says that [[spoiler:the first person killed in the local legend was his father (he thinks it's disgusting that people are joking about this sort of thing, which is why he's killing them).]] Shawn's response is a resigned/frustrated "Of ''course'' it was!"
* Since it's a HorrorComedy, most of the cast of ''Series/ScreamQueens2015'' are quite understanding of the tropes of both the SlasherFilm and High School Drama.
** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] by
Grace - she grew up watching slasher films with her father so she knows the typical twists and turns, but she turns out to be ''too'' genre savvy because she keeps trying to connect [[spoiler: the Bathtub Baby]] to the murders [[spoiler: thereby making herself a suspect.]] She also briefly distrusts [[LoveInterest Pete]] because [[spoiler: he's the school's mascot so owns a Red Devil costume, the disguise used by the killer]].
***
killer]]. She is smart enough to try and convince Zayday that they'll be safer if they quit Kappa though.
** Pete is on the same level of GenreSavvy as Grace, with one key difference - he's smart enough to ''avoid'' the same trappings she falls into.
though.



** At one point Stargate Command gets a warning not to go to a planet on a handwritten note through the gate. The note is in Jack O'Neill's handwriting and covered with his blood. The actual Jack O'Neill is fine and has no memory of the note. They immediately assume it is from the future or an alternate timeline, decide to trust the advice without any further evidence, and lock the planet out of their database. This proves to be the correct move.
13th Apr '16 9:26:20 AM Jhamin
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** At one point Stargate Command gets a warning not to go to a planet on a handwritten note through the gate. The note is in Jack O'Neill's handwriting and covered with his blood. The actual Jack O'Neill is fine and has no memory of the note. They immediately assume it is from the future or an alternate timeline, decide to trust the advice without any further evidence, and lock the planet out of their database. This proves to be the correct move.
3rd Apr '16 4:25:24 PM SpocktorWho
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** When the villain is finally revealed, he angrily says that [[spoiler:the first person killed in the local legend was his father (he thinks it's disgusting that people are joking about this sort of thing, which is why he's killing them).]] Shawn's response is a resigned/frustrated "Of ''course'' it was!"
20th Mar '16 6:08:41 PM nombretomado
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* ''BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].

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* ''BoyMeetsWorld'': ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].
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