History GenreSavvy / LiveActionTV

15th May '16 6:58:51 PM WillBGood
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* In the famous ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street," Claude Akins' character recognizes the neighborhood is in a Crucible-esque story. He tells his friends and neighbors that if they keep going the way they're going, they'll end up accusing each other of being aliens in a paranoid fit. The Twilight Zone being The Twilight Zone, no one listens.
-->'''Poirot''': It is better zis way. Some courts, zey do not accept ze evil voice as evidence.

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* In the famous ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street," Claude Akins' character recognizes the neighborhood is in a Crucible-esque story. He tells his friends and neighbors that if they keep going the way they're going, they'll end up accusing each other of being aliens in a paranoid fit. The Twilight Zone being The Twilight Zone, no one listens.
-->'''Poirot''': It is better zis way. Some courts, zey do not accept ze evil voice as evidence.
listens.
15th May '16 6:57:38 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].

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* ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy Genre Savvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].



** Hiro Nakamura. "You're telling us your plan? What kind of overconfident nemesis are you?" Though not GenreSavvy enough to just listen to the plan. Given that he's read lots of superhero comics...

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** Hiro Nakamura. "You're telling us your plan? What kind of overconfident nemesis are you?" Though not GenreSavvy Genre Savvy enough to just listen to the plan. Given that he's read lots of superhero comics...



* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': Some (but not all) of the characters are GenreSavvy. Boone suspects he is a RedShirt. Hurley and Charlie often question the wisdom of traipsing into a monster-inhabited jungle.

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* ''Series/{{Lost}}'': Some (but not all) of the characters are GenreSavvy.Genre Savvy. Boone suspects he is a RedShirt. Hurley and Charlie often question the wisdom of traipsing into a monster-inhabited jungle.



* ''Series/TheMiddleman'': The Middleman himself and his SideKick Wendy are both GenreSavvy, as is potential {{Love Interest|s}} Tyler. Their knowledge of comic book tropes is part and parcel of the job they do.

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* ''Series/TheMiddleman'': The Middleman himself and his SideKick Wendy are both GenreSavvy, Genre Savvy, as is potential {{Love Interest|s}} Tyler. Their knowledge of comic book tropes is part and parcel of the job they do.



** Being in a town full of amnesiac storybook characters, and armed with a book of fairy tales allows Henry to augment his already considerable GuileHero skills. Between this and the LivingLieDetector ability he inherited from his mother, his GenreSavvy borders on superhuman.

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** Being in a town full of amnesiac storybook characters, and armed with a book of fairy tales allows Henry to augment his already considerable GuileHero skills. Between this and the LivingLieDetector ability he inherited from his mother, his GenreSavvy Genre Savvy borders on superhuman.



* ''Series/OrphanBlack'': Streetwise con-artist clone Sarah Manning has a GenreSavvy moment when she first meets corporate "ProClone" Rachel Duncan and quips "Is this the part when 20 more of you robot bitches walk in for effect?"

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* ''Series/OrphanBlack'': Streetwise con-artist clone Sarah Manning has a GenreSavvy Genre Savvy moment when she first meets corporate "ProClone" "[=ProClone=]" Rachel Duncan and quips "Is this the part when 20 more of you robot bitches walk in for effect?"



** Sisko isn't the only one either; Dax (or at least ''Jadzia'') occasionally has flashes of this, but usually only enough to [[DeadpanSnarker get a good line in]]. Garak on the other hand seems to know he's trapped in a fictional world, usually using his savvy to poke fun at Dr. Bashir's chronic GenreBlindness. Which is even funnier because Bashir's main hobby for much of the later seasons is playing holographic recreations of not-quite-Bond novels, about which ''he'' is extremely GenreSavvy and Garak knows ''nothing''... there's extra bonus irony from Garak being an ''actual'' former intelligence officer who sardonically observes that all of Bashir's crazy antics in saving the day according to the rules of the fictional spy plot they're enacting is much rosier than the real thing which is exactly why Bashir can solve the programme and Garak can't (Garak thinks like a "real" intelligence agent, Bashir thinks like a "fictional" (re: romanticised) one. At least Garak appreciates the fancy tuxedos that he and Bashir get to wear as part of the game. (Garak also being a tailor and all.)

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** Sisko isn't the only one either; Dax (or at least ''Jadzia'') occasionally has flashes of this, but usually only enough to [[DeadpanSnarker get a good line in]]. Garak on the other hand seems to know he's trapped in a fictional world, usually using his savvy to poke fun at Dr. Bashir's chronic GenreBlindness. Which is even funnier because Bashir's main hobby for much of the later seasons is playing holographic recreations of not-quite-Bond novels, about which ''he'' is extremely GenreSavvy Genre Savvy and Garak knows ''nothing''... there's extra bonus irony from Garak being an ''actual'' former intelligence officer who sardonically observes that all of Bashir's crazy antics in saving the day according to the rules of the fictional spy plot they're enacting is much rosier than the real thing which is exactly why Bashir can solve the programme and Garak can't (Garak thinks like a "real" intelligence agent, Bashir thinks like a "fictional" (re: romanticised) one. At least Garak appreciates the fancy tuxedos that he and Bashir get to wear as part of the game. (Garak also being a tailor and all.)



** The episode "Elementary, My Dear Data" has its major conflict come up because of Data, in the role of Sherlock Holmes in a holodeck story, veering past GenreSavvy straight into [[spoiler:cutting straight to the ending by telling the first policeman he sees who the villain is and the crime because he already knew the story without doing any sleuthing]]; the resultant discussion over how Data could "enjoy" the exercise leads to the self-inflicted, ship-endangering mishap of the week.

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** The episode "Elementary, My Dear Data" has its major conflict come up because of Data, in the role of Sherlock Holmes in a holodeck story, veering past GenreSavvy Genre Savvy straight into [[spoiler:cutting straight to the ending by telling the first policeman he sees who the villain is and the crime because he already knew the story without doing any sleuthing]]; the resultant discussion over how Data could "enjoy" the exercise leads to the self-inflicted, ship-endangering mishap of the week.
15th May '16 6:56:05 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Abed is GenreSavvy beyond all reason (he knows he's in a sitcom) and something of a deconstruction of the concept. He has an exhaustive knowledge of media and its tropes, but as he acknowledges a couple of times in the series, that doesn't necessarily lead to him being able to create great drama. At one point he revises a horror story to get rid of all the cliches (see right below), but in doing so robs of it any drama or tension. He can find all the plotholes and he can recognize all the parts to a story, but that's different from being a truly good writer.

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* ''Series/{{Community}}'': Abed is GenreSavvy Genre Savvy beyond all reason (he knows he's in a sitcom) and something of a deconstruction of the concept. He has an exhaustive knowledge of media and its tropes, but as he acknowledges a couple of times in the series, that doesn't necessarily lead to him being able to create great drama. At one point he revises a horror story to get rid of all the cliches (see right below), cliches, but in doing so robs of it any drama or tension. He can find all the plotholes and he can recognize all the parts to a story, but that's different from being a truly good writer.
15th May '16 6:55:16 PM WillBGood
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* ''Series/{{Castle}}'': Richard Castle is amazingly {{genre savvy}}, being a mystery novelist in a PoliceProcedural, and uses this to help the actual police. His partner pokes fun at this, but it works.

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* ''Series/{{Castle}}'': Richard Castle is amazingly {{genre savvy}}, genre savvy, being a mystery novelist in a PoliceProcedural, and uses this to help the actual police. His partner pokes fun at this, but it works.



--> Ryan:'You know, if this was a horror movie, we'd be the first to die.'
--> Esposito:'Please, we're trained police with rifles.'
--> Ryan:'Cocky black guy. You definitely die first.'

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--> Ryan:'You --->'''Ryan:''' You know, if this was a horror movie, we'd be the first to die.'
--> Esposito:'Please,
die.
--->'''Esposito:''' Please,
we're trained police with rifles.'
--> Ryan:'Cocky
rifles.
--->'''Ryan:''' Cocky
black guy. You definitely die first.'



---->Castle:'You know, if this was a horror movie...'
---->Beckett:'Shut up, Castle.

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---->Castle:'You --->'''Castle:''' You know, if this was a horror movie...'
---->Beckett:'Shut
movie...
--->'''Beckett:''' Shut
up, Castle.
13th Apr '16 10:57:12 AM lexicon
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** When the villain is finally revealed, he angrily says that [[spoiler:the first person killed in the local legend was his father (he thinks it's disgusting that people are joking about this sort of thing, which is why he's killing them).]] Shawn's response is a resigned/frustrated "Of ''course'' it was!"
* Since it's a HorrorComedy, most of the cast of ''Series/ScreamQueens2015'' are quite understanding of the tropes of both the SlasherFilm and High School Drama.
** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] by Grace - she grew up watching slasher films with her father so she knows the typical twists and turns, but she turns out to be ''too'' genre savvy because she keeps trying to connect [[spoiler: the Bathtub Baby]] to the murders [[spoiler: thereby making herself a suspect.]] She also briefly distrusts [[LoveInterest Pete]] because [[spoiler: he's the school's mascot so owns a Red Devil costume, the disguise used by the killer]].
*** She is smart enough to try and convince Zayday that they'll be safer if they quit Kappa though.
** Pete is on the same level of GenreSavvy as Grace, with one key difference - he's smart enough to ''avoid'' the same trappings she falls into.

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* ''Series/ScreamQueens2015''
** When the villain is finally revealed, he angrily says that [[spoiler:the first person killed in the local legend was his father (he thinks it's disgusting that people are joking about this sort of thing, which is why he's killing them).]] Shawn's response is a resigned/frustrated "Of ''course'' it was!"
* Since it's a HorrorComedy, most of the cast of ''Series/ScreamQueens2015'' are quite understanding of the tropes of both the SlasherFilm and High School Drama.
** [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] by
Grace - she grew up watching slasher films with her father so she knows the typical twists and turns, but she turns out to be ''too'' genre savvy because she keeps trying to connect [[spoiler: the Bathtub Baby]] to the murders [[spoiler: thereby making herself a suspect.]] She also briefly distrusts [[LoveInterest Pete]] because [[spoiler: he's the school's mascot so owns a Red Devil costume, the disguise used by the killer]].
***
killer]]. She is smart enough to try and convince Zayday that they'll be safer if they quit Kappa though.
** Pete is on the same level of GenreSavvy as Grace, with one key difference - he's smart enough to ''avoid'' the same trappings she falls into.
though.



** At one point Stargate Command gets a warning not to go to a planet on a handwritten note through the gate. The note is in Jack O'Neill's handwriting and covered with his blood. The actual Jack O'Neill is fine and has no memory of the note. They immediately assume it is from the future or an alternate timeline, decide to trust the advice without any further evidence, and lock the planet out of their database. This proves to be the correct move.
13th Apr '16 9:26:20 AM Jhamin
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** At one point Stargate Command gets a warning not to go to a planet on a handwritten note through the gate. The note is in Jack O'Neill's handwriting and covered with his blood. The actual Jack O'Neill is fine and has no memory of the note. They immediately assume it is from the future or an alternate timeline, decide to trust the advice without any further evidence, and lock the planet out of their database. This proves to be the correct move.
3rd Apr '16 4:25:24 PM SpocktorWho
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** When the villain is finally revealed, he angrily says that [[spoiler:the first person killed in the local legend was his father (he thinks it's disgusting that people are joking about this sort of thing, which is why he's killing them).]] Shawn's response is a resigned/frustrated "Of ''course'' it was!"
20th Mar '16 6:08:41 PM nombretomado
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* ''BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].

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* ''BoyMeetsWorld'': ''Series/BoyMeetsWorld'': In "And Then There Was Shawn," while the kids are in detention, and things begin looking terrifying, we learn that Shawn is very GenreSavvy when it comes to [[{{Horror}} Horror movies]], quickly pointing out the [[AloneWithThePsycho dangers of splitting up]] and the fact that [[DeathBySex virgins never die]].
18th Mar '16 8:31:52 PM Hossmeister
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** The Brigadier, due to having been a friend of the Doctor for an extremely long time, has the way his adventures tend to go plotted deeply into his brain and frequently remarks on it.
-->'''Brigadier:''' You know, just once I'd like to meet an alien race that wasn't immune to bullets!
** The Fourth Doctor had his moments, but especially later in his tenure it began [[MetaGuy pushing up against the fourth wall a little more than you'd expect]], delivering bad lines of dialogue in a 'can you believe I'm saying this nonsense?' kind of way and becoming [[EvilIsHammy immediately suspicious of anyone noticeably more hammy than everyone else in the room]] even if they haven't done anything yet.
** The Tenth Doctor. To a lesser extent, Martha Jones, his companion in Series Three; at least she knows about TimeTravelTropes, including the dangers of [[ButterflyOfDoom stepping on a butterfly]] or [[TemporalParadox killing one's own grandfather]].
-->'''Ida:''' We've come this far, there's no turning back.
-->'''Doctor:''' Oh, did you have to? "No turning back"? That's almost as bad as "Nothing could possibly go wrong" or "This is gonna be the best Christmas [[Series/EastEnders Walford]]'s ever had."
** The Master is GenreSavvy enough to state that he's not going to hang around telling the hero all his plans, though not enough so to just kill the heroes rather than keeping them around to gloat. The Doctor was also able to accurately predict that the Master would ''have'' to have a ticking clock as part of his plan.
** Amy Pond often has moments of Genre Savvy:
-->'''Amy''': Were you being extra charming and clever?
-->'''Doctor''': Yeah, how did you know?
-->'''Amy''': Lucky guess.
** Rory Williams - from the way he worked out from his own research why the TARDIS is bigger on the inside, to the fact that he's perfectly aware that "We come in peace!" never stops the mooks from trying to kill you, Rory has always been fairly savvy about both science and sci-fi.
** River's knowledge of the Doctor's future makes her pretty genre savvy regarding the Doctor, when they're trapped by the Weeping Angels, she says, "No pressure, but this is usually when you have a really good idea."
** The Ninth Doctor displays this in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS27E11BoomTown Boom Town]]'', when an alien murderess he is dining with gets him to turn his back on a spurious excuse. Naturally, she uses the opportunity to spice up his drink... and when he turns back, he switches their glasses immediately.



** And in ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2007CSVoyageOfTheDamned Voyage of the Damned]]'', [[spoiler:the ''entire population of London'' turns GenreSavvy -- after two straight years of horrible disasters and alien invasions on Christmas, they evacuate the city en masse on December 25, certain that some cruel god is going to have it in for them again. Not surprisingly, they're right.]]
** Also, in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E12ThePandoricaOpens The Pandorica Opens]]'':

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** And in ''[[Recap/DoctorWho2007CSVoyageOfTheDamned Voyage of the Damned]]'', [[spoiler:the ''entire population of London'' turns GenreSavvy -- after two straight years of horrible disasters and alien invasions on Christmas, they evacuate the city en masse on December 25, certain that some cruel god is going to have it in for them again. Not surprisingly, they're right.]]
** Also, in
In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E12ThePandoricaOpens The Pandorica Opens]]'':



** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]]'', Rory comes up with a somewhat dark and HarsherInHindsight example:
-->'''Rory''': Every time the Doctor gets pally with someone I have this overwhelming urge to notify their next-of-kin.
** In ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E12ClosingTime Closing Time]]'', the Doctor drops in on Craig as a social call.
-->'''The Doctor''': Just popped in to say hello.
-->'''Craig''': You don't do that. I checked the upstairs when we moved in. It's real. And next door, both sides. They're humans. Is it the fridge? Are there aliens in my fridge?
** THE DALEKS even get GenreSavvy in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E1AsylumOfTheDaleks Asylum of the Daleks]]''. They're too scared to go find out what's gotten into the titular asylum themselves, so they go pick up the Doctor, Amy, and Rory to do it for them. When the Doctor asks why they kidnapped Amy and Rory, the Daleks reply that it is well known that the Doctor requires companions. They are, as usual, instrumental in helping him succeed.
** Rory's Genre Savviness reaches epic proportions in ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E5TheAngelsTakeManhattan The Angels Take Manhattan]]'', in which he is able to create a paradox that will defeat the titular Angels by committing suicide...in the desperate certainty that he'll survive the attempt, because 'Don't I always?'
** ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver Nightmare in Silver]]'' has another example from the Doctor. It's not enough to stop the kid from getting himself in trouble, but points for trying.
-->'''Doctor:''' Don't wander off! I mean it! Otherwise you'll wander off, and the ''next'' thing you know, somebody's gonna have to start ''rescuing'' somebody. ...sweet dreams.
** ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E5TimeHeist Time Heist]]'':\\\
When the TARDIS phone gets a call, Clara insists the Doctor not answer, because "a thing" always happens. He does, [[SmashCut and they wake up]] holding memory worms to their heads in a strange room with strange people.\\\
When discussing what's next in their plan the Doctor tells Saibra he doesn't know, but he assumes "a thing" will happens fairly soon. Then Psi and Clara find the next suitcase.
** ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoS34E12DeathInHeaven Death in Heaven]]'': Evidently the entire Earth has become GenreSavvy as they have now protocols for an alien invasion. And this includes making one person President of Earth, Commander-in-Chief of the planet's armed forces. Of course, this happens to be The Doctor, who is clearly not amused.
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