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8th Jan '16 12:55:39 PM nombretomado
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* The ''{{Spellsinger}}'' novels avert this trope by firmly establishing that warmblooded animals are all intelligent and anthropomorphic, while [[NoCartoonFish coldblooded animals]] [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent -- with a few specific exceptions]], [[BugWar like]] turtles (of course) and spiders-- are not. Thus all the riding animals, livestock, and so forth in the world are reptiles of some kind.

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* The ''{{Spellsinger}}'' ''Literature/{{Spellsinger}}'' novels avert this trope by firmly establishing that warmblooded animals are all intelligent and anthropomorphic, while [[NoCartoonFish coldblooded animals]] [[ReptilesAreAbhorrent -- with a few specific exceptions]], [[BugWar like]] turtles (of course) and spiders-- are not. Thus all the riding animals, livestock, and so forth in the world are reptiles of some kind.
17th Mar '15 7:53:25 AM nombretomado
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* The sci-fi novel ''I, Weapon'', manages a form of FurryConfusion without actually involving [[FurryFandom Furries]] (although some have fur). The series is written in a far future where humans were nearly wiped out by invading aliens with the surviving members having largely speciated into various specialized forms to survive on far planets. One of the groups of humans was bred by the overlords for muscle, lack of brains, and large earlobes (the aliens thought earlobes were fascinating and bred for it as a decorative traits). At the time when the human races begin re-establishing contact, they decide that the kindest thing to do for the meat race is to continue breeding and using them as food. One of the scary aspects of the book is that it's implied that, outside of the huge earlobes, the meat race are the ones who look most like what we think of as humans.

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* The sci-fi novel ''I, Weapon'', manages a form of FurryConfusion without actually involving [[FurryFandom [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom Furries]] (although some have fur). The series is written in a far future where humans were nearly wiped out by invading aliens with the surviving members having largely speciated into various specialized forms to survive on far planets. One of the groups of humans was bred by the overlords for muscle, lack of brains, and large earlobes (the aliens thought earlobes were fascinating and bred for it as a decorative traits). At the time when the human races begin re-establishing contact, they decide that the kindest thing to do for the meat race is to continue breeding and using them as food. One of the scary aspects of the book is that it's implied that, outside of the huge earlobes, the meat race are the ones who look most like what we think of as humans.
16th Mar '15 12:24:24 PM Tuckerscreator
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** Rabbits are at least considered a separate species, being both smaller and less warlike than hares.
5th Oct '14 3:58:46 PM Therapsid
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* The minotaurs in the Dragonlance universe ride horses (specially bred to carry them, since they're bigger than people). They also keep livestock, though they don't keep cattle, they've instead bred sheep to cattle size as a substitute. They are explicitly aware of this trope. Calling a Minotaur a "cow" is [[FantasyRacism roughly the equivalent of the n-word]], as they are ''very'' conscious of their resemblance to said animal and don't take kindly to being reminded of it.

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* The minotaurs in the Dragonlance universe ride horses (specially bred to carry them, since they're bigger than people). They also keep livestock, though they don't keep cattle, they've instead bred sheep to cattle size as a substitute. They are explicitly aware of this trope. Calling a Minotaur a "cow" is [[FantasyRacism [[FantasticRacism roughly the equivalent of the n-word]], as they are ''very'' conscious of their resemblance to said animal and don't take kindly to being reminded of it.
5th Oct '14 3:58:03 PM Therapsid
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* The minotaurs in the Dragonlance universe ride horses (specially bred to carry them, since they're bigger than people). They also keep livestock, though I don't believe they keep cattle. They are explicitly aware of this trope. Calling a Minotaur a "cow" is roughly the equivalent of the n-word, as they are ''very'' conscious of their resemblance to said animal and don't take kindly to being reminded of it.

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* The minotaurs in the Dragonlance universe ride horses (specially bred to carry them, since they're bigger than people). They also keep livestock, though I they don't believe they keep cattle.cattle, they've instead bred sheep to cattle size as a substitute. They are explicitly aware of this trope. Calling a Minotaur a "cow" is [[FantasyRacism roughly the equivalent of the n-word, n-word]], as they are ''very'' conscious of their resemblance to said animal and don't take kindly to being reminded of it.
14th Aug '14 12:24:14 AM W43
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** Rabbits are at least considered a separate species, being both smaller and less warlike than hares.
14th Aug '14 12:22:50 AM W43
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*** Off of that, Talking Animals are considered citizens. Non-talking ones are just regular animals, and can be used for food and/or labor. In the last book, Tirian and Jewel see a Calormene using a whip on a horse. When they think its a regular horse, they find it mildly distasteful. When they learn its a ''talking'' horse, they are both so overcome with rage they promptly murder both of the Calormene.
5th Jun '14 11:39:37 AM cybishop3
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** Note that there are [[FunctionalMagic fairly explicit rules]] about the {{Talking Animals}} in this setting:

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** Note that there are [[FunctionalMagic fairly explicit rules]] about the {{Talking Animals}} Animal}}s in this setting:
5th Jun '14 11:39:22 AM cybishop3
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** Note that there are [[FunctionalMagic fairly explicit rules]] about the {{Talking Animals}} in this setting:
*** They are all different species (gena, whatever) from the dumb animals they resemble and do not interbreed.
*** They are closer to human-sized than the corresponding dumb animals. A talking mouse is about two feet tall, while a talking bear would be bigger than a human but never as big as a full-grown wild bear.
*** If they have opposable thumbs or the dumb animal they're related to can pick things up in its paws, they will use tools and sometimes even clothes.
** Put it all together and it would be hard to mistake a talking animal for a dumb animal by accident, and a talking carnivore has more in common with a talking herbivore than with a dumb carnivore.
29th Apr '13 3:19:05 AM Tuckerscreator
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* A few of the species in the ''{{Literature/Redwall}}'' series flip-flop on their level of sapience. Eels appear to be monsters in ''Taggerung'', but in ''Mossflower'' an deal is made with a talking eel to free him in exchange for their lives. In the third book, Basil Stag Hare jokes that the magicians be allowed in Redwall "as long as they don't pull rabbits out of hats", which makes one wonder how that trick would work when the rabbits are the size of people.
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