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30th Aug '16 3:51:10 PM Lujo
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* The Elisabeth Dane, a ship where the Ankharan Sarcophagus was discovered had all it's crew slaughtered before the rest of the plot happened. The endings in which you discover what is in the sarcophagus seem to come out of nowhere unless you remember that [[spoiler: Jack used to be a pirate.]] Yes, that, turns out to have been an actual hint.
8th Aug '16 8:55:25 AM NoSpoilerz
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* While the were-shark quest may seem to come out of nowhere, by the book canon, it is surprisingly through and plausible. The wereshark is a Same-Bito, a hengeyokai variant of the Rokea (weresharks). Same-Bito, unlike regulr rokea, have taken time to try and adapt to the life on the surface. Hengeyokai also are far more likely to deal with Kuei-Jin on neutral terms, unlike western shifters and kindred.

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* While the were-shark quest may seem to come out of nowhere, by the book canon, it is surprisingly through and plausible. The wereshark is a Same-Bito, a hengeyokai variant of the Rokea (weresharks). Same-Bito, unlike regulr regular rokea, have taken time to try and adapt to the life on the surface. Hengeyokai also are far more likely to deal with Kuei-Jin on neutral terms, unlike western shifters and kindred.
28th Jun '16 4:06:02 PM Wercury
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* So, [=LaCroix=] can Dominate you into advancing the plot if you refuse his orders, but at the end, his attempt to Dominate you falls completely flat. While the game certainly doesn't make a point of following [=PnP=] rules to the letter and this is usually a good thing, thinking about this one too hard makes it a little messy; the only way for Dominate to fail without any effort on the victim's part is if the "victim" is a lower generation, so how does he do it early in the game? [[FridgeBrilliance Simple]]; he doesn't. Regardless of attitude, the player character finds it in their best interest to do his dirty work, so his attempt to Dominate you ''looks'' like it works fine.
** Another possibility: the player diablerised the Cathayan/the Chang Brothers/Andrei the Tzimisce, lowering the generation enough to the point where [=LaCroix=] is not powerful enough to dominate them.
*** Yet another possibility: in tabletop Dominate requires a dice roll versus victim's Willpower. If Willpower is high, Dominate can fail. You see, Willpower wasn't used in Bloodlines, so we can assume, that after all those adventures the player's Willpower became stronger, and [=LaCroix=] simply failed the dice roll.
*** This actually makes plenty of sense if you decide that the difference in willpower is to blame. Think about it: early in the game, the PC was likely unsure of what to do (having recently been plunged into an ancient secret society and forced to fight for survival) and therefore not as willful. They aren't really sure of what to do with their un-life. By the endgame however, the PC is sure of why they're in Lacroix's office and will not be swayed from killing him.
*** Or maybe [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt Gehenna]] has already started, and [=LaCroix=] is simply one of the first Kindred to be afflicted by the Withering.
*** The Withering explanation moves this whole Dominate debacle from FridgeLogic to FridgeBrilliance.
*** The Withering doesn't explain why Andrei noted that your blood has become much more potent than the last time he saw you though.
*** It actually does - some vampires (mostly younger ones and/or Caitiff) get a temporary boost in power. It was never really explained why and it was noted as something really rare but it is there and it is a definite possibility. The PC could have just...been a fluke.
*** A couple of dialogues suggest [[spoiler:Caine himself]] has been cheating by effectively lowering the generation of the player via his godlike powers. This also explains how the player characters goes from weak whelp to destroying creatures that should be able to insta-dust him.
*** Throughout the game, you get a hold of plenty of extremely powerful artifacts, vampire and Elder blood packs, and plenty of other things that could arguably lower your generation or give you some other defense.
*** Why not go with the obvious? Throughout the game, [=LaCroix=] has basically sent your character on multiple suicide-missions and yet has seen them come out on top every time. He's a newly-instated Prince, and a rather disliked one, so his powerbase isn't exactly as strong as it could be had he been in the position longer (It's even implied that the Sherriff is his only truly loyal servant and the big brute's intimidation factor is the main reason [=LaCroix=] is still "on the throne"). The endgame attempt at Dominate fails because [=LaCroix=] has slowly realized you are a ''very'' big threat to him and his role as Prince, and despite not showing it outwardly, he's too damn scared by this revelation to concentrate enough to make it work! In short, [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration he botched his roll]].
23rd Jun '16 3:20:44 PM Woggs123
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* The Santa Monica safehouse has exposed windows and no apparent "safe zone" for a sleeping vampire. [[SuicideMission The prince doesn't plan on you staying the day, does he?]]
3rd May '16 7:51:59 AM Sally777
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*** This, and also that Lacroix and/or one of his vampire goons could've given you a very brief debriefing on your clan.

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*** This, and also that Lacroix and/or one of his vampire goons could've given you a very brief debriefing on your clan.clan offscreen.
3rd May '16 7:51:22 AM Sally777
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***This, and also that Lacroix and/or one of his vampire goons could've given you a very brief debriefing on your clan.
24th Dec '15 4:48:45 AM nmn3r3
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* While the were-shark quest may seem to come out of nowhere, by the book canon, it is surprisingly through and plausible. The wereshark is a Same-Bito, a hengeyokai variant of the Rokea (weresharks). Same-Bito,unlike regulr rokea, have taken time to try and adapt to the life on the surfance. Hengeyokai also are far more likely to deal with Kuei-Jin on neutral terms, unlike western shifters and kindred.

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* While the were-shark quest may seem to come out of nowhere, by the book canon, it is surprisingly through and plausible. The wereshark is a Same-Bito, a hengeyokai variant of the Rokea (weresharks). Same-Bito,unlike Same-Bito, unlike regulr rokea, have taken time to try and adapt to the life on the surfance.surface. Hengeyokai also are far more likely to deal with Kuei-Jin on neutral terms, unlike western shifters and kindred.
20th Nov '15 10:12:06 AM MartialArtsMaster
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** [[spoiler:Gimble did get [=McGee=]; Carson mentions that Gimble has been mutilating both him and [=McGee=], and after the boss fight with Gimble, you can look in one of the cells and see [=McGee=]'s corpse.]]
28th Apr '15 5:58:45 PM Theokal3
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** Also, are we really sure [[spoiler:he did get [=McGree=]]]? I don't remember them actually saying it.
19th Feb '15 6:10:43 PM DoPo
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****** It actually does - some vampires (mostly younger ones and/or Caitiff) get a temporary boost in power. It was never really explained why and it was noted as something really rare but it is there and it is a definite possibility. The PC could have just...been a fluke.
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