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31st Jan '16 5:02:33 PM TheLemsterPju
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(I think that's a bit of an exaggeration of the team's behavior. They're just behaving like any spoiled teenager would. They do care for Peter for the most part as shown in the first season finale and a majority of season two. They even got along just fine with Deadpool. It's part of the shows sense of humor to have the characters pick on each other for laughs, it's best not to over-think their "jerkassness".) Exactly. That and the next to last bit about "it being a meta-commentary about it replacing Spectacular" confirms that this is a thinly veiled USM hate post with the wrong factual reasoning. Removed.
* This was already mentioned in WMG page, but deserves to be adressed here. In this show, [[spoiler: Deadpool's third, and perhaps the most believable, origin reveals that he was once a weird, special kid (probably referring to his healing factor), who was treated horribly by other people. Nick Fury found him and trained him, by putting him through the same program that Spider-Man is currently working in and worked with Spidey's teammates before Spidey joined S.H.I.E.L.D. At some point, however, Deadpool decided that he should learn to laugh at pain and decided to hurt other people. But ''why exactly'' he became an amoral psycho?]] Well, [[spoiler: these are the same teammates, who in the first season, when Spidey joined S.H.I.E.L.D, mocked Spidey, insulted him, pulled mean pranks on him, attempted to '''''beat''''' him up because he ''accidentally gave them cold'', inserted themselves into his life, disrespected him and tried to make Peter trust them, even though he actually doesn't know anything about them]]. Fury also treated Spidey unsympathetically by putting security cameras in his house, showing most embarrassing things of Spider-Man's recording to the whole team, even after Spidey allowed Fury to put up at some cameras in his territory and generally treated Spidey, and his teammates to an extent, as snot-nosed brats. Coulson is no better either: in Captain America's debut episode he didn't want Spidey's team to train with Captain America, just because Coulson is a massive fanboy of Cap and wanted Cap to be with him and not with Spidey's team and in Deadpool's debut episode sent battle robots after Spidey, simply because he was late for training. It is very possible that [[spoiler: Deadpool was treated in similar way by Fury, Coulson and MAYBE his teammates. Furthermore, Deadpool was already treated horribly by other people ''before'' he joined S.H.I.E.L.D and was heavily implied to be an orphan. Having a horrible past, no family, being abused and treated unfairly by his JerkAss teammates and superiors probably made Deadpool snap and he turned into psychopathic mercenary he is now]]. ** His team-mates may see spiderman as some replacement for Deadpool. You must admit there are some similarity to the for the team to see this as some bad ReplacementGoldfish. One could further argue that some may subconsciously blame Peter since it would seem Fury gave up on Deadpool and just took Spiderman as the new man on the team. *** It might even be meta-commentary about Spetacular Spiderman being replaced by Ultimate Spiderman, which considering Deadpool, is more than expected. ** I think that's a bit of an exaggeration of the team's behavior. They're just behaving like any spoiled teenager would. They do care for Peter for the most part as shown in the first season finale and a majority of season two. They even got along just fine with Deadpool. It's part of the shows sense of humor to have the characters pick on each other for laughs, it's best not to over-think their [[JerkAss "jerkassness"]].
13th Jan '16 1:33:08 PM WanderingBrowser
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** Even if you don't buy that, there's a simple explanation: Spiderman and his teammates are ''teenagers'' in this show. Not to say that TeensAreMonsters, but teenagers are hardly 24/7 paragons of virtue, morality and maturity. Not helping is that they all have scars of their own -- which just makes them less "friendly". Peter has his uncle's death on his conscience, plus the strain of his double-life on his home, and listening to Jameson slandering him all the time even as he tries to help doesn't make things easier. Ava has both the death of her father (who, let's not forget, was ''[[HuntingTheMostDangerous game hunted down and butchered like an animal by a madman]]'') and the White Tiger Amulet itself trying to reduce her to the mindset of an animal -- it's PlayedForLaughs, but, her comment after gorging on pasta in the start of "Kraven the Hunter" implies she has very legitimate concerns that the Amulet may eventually drive her to the point of ''[[ImAHumanitarian eating human flesh]]'', which can't be doing much for her attitude. Luke has his [[spoiler: presumed]] dead parents, and Danny has the strain of knowing he will have to leave the world he knows to become king of K'un-L'un; they've both made peace with that, though, which is why they're generally the nicest of the team. Even Nova ultimately admits he's an orphan who never knew his parents, alongside whatever led him to become Nova in the first place.
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** Even if you don't buy that, there's a simple explanation: Spiderman and his teammates are ''teenagers'' in this show. Not to say that TeensAreMonsters, but teenagers are hardly 24/7 paragons of virtue, morality and maturity. Not helping is that they all have scars of their own -- which just makes them less "friendly". Peter has his uncle's death on his conscience, plus the strain of his double-life on his home, and listening to Jameson slandering him all the time even as he tries to help doesn't make things easier. Ava has both the death of her father (who, let's not forget, was ''[[HuntingTheMostDangerous game ''[[HuntingTheMostDangerousGame hunted down and butchered like an animal by a madman]]'') and the White Tiger Amulet itself trying to reduce her to the mindset of an animal -- it's PlayedForLaughs, but, her comment after gorging on pasta in the start of "Kraven the Hunter" implies she has very legitimate concerns that the Amulet may eventually drive her to the point of ''[[ImAHumanitarian eating human flesh]]'', which can't be doing much for her attitude. Luke has his [[spoiler: presumed]] dead parents, and Danny has the strain of knowing he will have to leave the world he knows to become king of K'un-L'un; they've both made peace with that, though, which is why they're generally the nicest of the team. Even Nova ultimately admits he's an orphan who never knew his parents, alongside whatever led him to become Nova in the first place.
13th Jan '16 1:13:17 PM WanderingBrowser
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** Spider-Man works best in areas like cities or jungles, where there are lotsa trees or buildings he can swing from. On flatter terrain, it's faster to by motorcycle.
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** Spider-Man works best in areas like cities or jungles, where there are lotsa trees or buildings he can swing from. On flatter terrain, it's faster to travel by motorcycle.

* [[spoiler: Well, StanLee really ''did'' come up with [[FunWithAcronyms S.H.I.E.L.D.]].]] * Do libel laws simply ''not exist'' in this world? J Jonah Jameson routinely uses his media apparatus to engage in slander of pretty much anyone he wants, but especially Spider-Man. He's basically directly responsible for Flint Marko's rampage in "Return of Sandman". First Amendment aside, there are limits. ** Libel is a civil thing--whoever the victim is needs to sue in a public court. Spider-Man isn't going to do that, and even if you are legitimately libeled, newspapers have legal teams, so pursuing a libel claim is going to be a long and expensive process no matter what you do. ** And isn't that more of a Headscratcher?
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* [[spoiler: Well, StanLee Creator/StanLee really ''did'' come up with [[FunWithAcronyms S.H.I.E.L.D.]].]] * Do libel laws simply ''not exist'' in this world? J Jonah Jameson routinely uses his media apparatus to engage in slander of pretty much anyone he wants, but especially Spider-Man. He's basically directly responsible for Flint Marko's rampage in "Return of Sandman". First Amendment aside, there are limits. ** Libel is a civil thing--whoever the victim is needs to sue in a public court. Spider-Man isn't going to do that, and even if you are legitimately libeled, newspapers have legal teams, so pursuing a libel claim is going to be a long and expensive process no matter what you do. ** And isn't that more of a Headscratcher?]]

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* The fact Spiderman TookALevelInJerkass and his teammates are all pretty {{jerkass}}y themselves makes a lot of sense after reading the entry on CharacterRerailment for ''ComicBook/{{SpiderGwen}}'s'' YMMV page: this show takes Spidey and co back to their roots back when Creator/SteveDitko first wrote the character -- as a high-school student. And, under Ditko, ''everyone'' was, frankly, a jerk. It's one of those homages to more obscure branches of Spider-continuity. ** Even if you don't buy that, there's a simple explanation: Spiderman and his teammates are ''teenagers'' in this show. Not to say that TeensAreMonsters, but teenagers are hardly 24/7 paragons of virtue, morality and maturity. Not helping is that they all have scars of their own -- which just makes them less "friendly". Peter has his uncle's death on his conscience, plus the strain of his double-life on his home, and listening to Jameson slandering him all the time even as he tries to help doesn't make things easier. Ava has both the death of her father (who, let's not forget, was ''[[HuntingTheMostDangerous game hunted down and butchered like an animal by a madman]]'') and the White Tiger Amulet itself trying to reduce her to the mindset of an animal -- it's PlayedForLaughs, but, her comment after gorging on pasta in the start of "Kraven the Hunter" implies she has very legitimate concerns that the Amulet may eventually drive her to the point of ''[[ImAHumanitarian eating human flesh]]'', which can't be doing much for her attitude. Luke has his [[spoiler: Well, StanLee presumed]] dead parents, and Danny has the strain of knowing he will have to leave the world he knows to become king of K'un-L'un; they've both made peace with that, though, which is why they're generally the nicest of the team. Even Nova ultimately admits he's an orphan who never knew his parents, alongside whatever led him to become Nova in the first place. *** There's also the fact that the team starts out really ''did'' bad in the first season, but gets better in the second. Why? Because whilst the Shield Quartet were an existing team before the first episode, neither they nor Spidey were asked to work together; Fury ''made'' them team up. Of course they fight all the time -- they don't even ''know'' each other, so naturally they don't like each other, and the fact they pick on each other because of that only makes the hate grow. * Why is Nova such a jerk, even by this show's standards? Because he's a former cosmic-tier hero; he doesn't really ''care'' about Earth or anything that happens on it, because he thinks that A: it's just not as important, and B: he's a big-shot by virtue of where he's coming from. Earth in the Marvelverse is literally a nameless backwater on the grand galatic stage; Nova's the equivalent of the big city kid who's come up with [[FunWithAcronyms S.H.I.E.L.D.]].]] * Do libel laws simply ''not exist'' in this world? J Jonah Jameson routinely uses his media apparatus out to engage in slander the boonies for a vacation. His attitude is wrong, of pretty much anyone he wants, course, but that doesn't stop him from being a SmugSuper, especially Spider-Man. He's basically directly responsible for Flint Marko's rampage in "Return of Sandman". First Amendment aside, there are limits. ** Libel is a civil thing--whoever the victim is needs to sue in a public court. Spider-Man isn't going to do that, and even if you are legitimately libeled, newspapers have legal teams, so pursuing a libel claim is going to be a long and expensive process no matter what you do. ** And isn't since one could believe that more he's been off-planet for most of a Headscratcher?his life and so he literally doesn't identify as an Earthling anymore.
6th Dec '15 11:42:09 AM chloelee12
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* In Carnage's debut episode we see him fighting a bunch of S.H.I.E.L.D. Agents, but the fight is mostly obscured in a dust/debris cloud. What little of the fight we can make out is very violent... and we don't see these Agents ever again. Considering Carnage's track record in the comics...
26th Nov '15 12:28:32 PM Emperor_Oshron
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* At the end of ''Field Trip'', Loki is surprised that he, as TricksterGod, was fooled by Spider-Man, a mere mortal. It may be unintentional, but this makes a whole lot of sense when you remember that ''another'' famous trickster god is Anansi, a spider!
23rd Oct '15 4:31:19 PM TheLemsterPju
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As a matter of fact, asside from the many references to it, this is in no possible way in-contunity with the MCU. The line itself was simply: a reference.
** Spider-Man works best in areas like cities or jungles, where there are lotsa trees or buildings he can swing from. On flatter terrain, it's faster to by motorcyle. * Why does Thor routinely defer to Coulson when he appears? Because this (sort of) shares continuity with the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Coulson is one of the few people that Thor knows, let alone trusts.
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** Spider-Man works best in areas like cities or jungles, where there are lotsa trees or buildings he can swing from. On flatter terrain, it's faster to by motorcyle. * Why does Thor routinely defer to Coulson when he appears? Because this (sort of) shares continuity with the Marvel Cinematic Universe and Coulson is one of the few people that Thor knows, let alone trusts. motorcycle.
10th Oct '15 4:57:41 PM nombretomado
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* It may not be intended as such, but there are some cool ironic reversals of events in past incarnations. For example, we have Peter and Spidey "talking to each other" in a mirror, just like the scenes with ''NormanOsborn on the way to becoming AxCrazy'' in the first film.
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* It may not be intended as such, but there are some cool ironic reversals of events in past incarnations. For example, we have Peter and Spidey "talking to each other" in a mirror, just like the scenes with ''NormanOsborn ''ComicBook/NormanOsborn on the way to becoming AxCrazy'' in the first film.
19th Aug '15 5:55:24 PM Fourze99
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* Why is Deadpool more [[LighterAndSofter kid friendly]] in this version? Simple. He's in a show for younger audiences. Being [[NoFourthWall Deadpool]], he's completely aware of this.
17th Feb '15 12:38:27 AM RealSlimShadowen
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** It also works because [[spoiler: Venom]] is the dark reflection of Spider-Man. What could be more dramatic than his dark reflection taking over his best friend?
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** It also works because [[spoiler: Venom]] is the dark reflection of Spider-Man. What could be more dramatic than his dark reflection taking over his best friend?friend? More pertinently, Peter is poor, lost his birth parents, but has an adoptive family that loves him, then loses his adoptive father. [[spoiler:Harry]] is rich, lost [[spoiler:his mother some time ago, but still has his birth father...who is distant and cold]].

* While the Spider-Cycle doesn't really make a lot of sense, it is understandable why Peter likes it: he's '''16''' that's the age kids start to drive and become impressed by cool vehicles
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* While the Spider-Cycle doesn't really make a lot of sense, it is understandable why Peter likes it: he's '''16''' that's '''16'''. That's the age American kids start to drive and become impressed by cool vehiclesvehicles.

* Despite all the complaints, Spidey fighting so many villains for other heroes' rouges galleries makes perfect sense: most of the Marvel universe is set in New York. How can a superhero who lives in NY (who web-swings, which is known to be a very speedy form of travel) not encounter so many other villains who run around causing trouble if it's all in the same city?
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* Despite all the complaints, Spidey fighting so many villains for other heroes' rouges rogues galleries makes perfect sense: most of the Marvel universe is set in New York. How can a superhero who lives in NY (who web-swings, which is known to be a very speedy form of travel) not encounter so many other villains who run around causing trouble if it's all in the same city?
6th Dec '14 2:52:24 AM LLSmoothJ
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** In a way, he's basically Kidpool!
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