History Fridge / TsubasaReservoirChronicle

18th Mar '16 4:20:18 PM nombretomado
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* In the early days of the manga, I kept wondering why [[TheDragon Kyle Rodart]] looked so much like [[{{xxxholic}} Watanuki]]. Much later, I realized that it's intentional, [[spoiler: Kyle is a clone of Syaoran, just like Watanuki]].

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* In the early days of the manga, I kept wondering why [[TheDragon Kyle Rodart]] looked so much like [[{{xxxholic}} [[Manga/XxxHolic Watanuki]]. Much later, I realized that it's intentional, [[spoiler: Kyle is a clone of Syaoran, just like Watanuki]].



* In volume 24 we have a visit to the shop that was illustrated with the same angles and lines as the first chapter of ''xxxHolic'' as a big foreshadowing to the revelation that [[spoiler:the original Syaoran and Watanuki share the same role.]]

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* In volume 24 we have a visit to the shop that was illustrated with the same angles and lines as the first chapter of ''xxxHolic'' ''Manga/XxxHolic'' as a big foreshadowing to the revelation that [[spoiler:the original Syaoran and Watanuki share the same role.]]
19th Jan '16 3:06:21 AM Adept
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* The anime ''didn't'' cast MotokoKumai and Creator/SakuraTange in the lead roles, despite reusing the same voice actors between in-universe counterparts. Fandom was rather annoyed at this at the time. [[spoiler:But, as it turns out in the manga, they aren't really AlternateUniverse counterparts of the lead couple of ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura''...]]

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* The anime ''didn't'' cast MotokoKumai Creator/MotokoKumai and Creator/SakuraTange in the lead roles, despite reusing the same voice actors between in-universe counterparts. Fandom was rather annoyed at this at the time. [[spoiler:But, as it turns out in the manga, they aren't really AlternateUniverse counterparts of the lead couple of ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura''...]]
16th Oct '15 2:05:37 PM Willbyr
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* In RGVeda it was established that a ThirdEye represents "sins even a demon wouldn't commit", so I was really confused when the Ashura statue in the country of Shara had one. But just now I remembered that he wished for Yasha to come back from the dead. Perhaps in the original timeline of that world (before Syaoran and co. mucked it up), this wish led him to doing something that messed with the natural order of things, hence the extra eye.

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* In RGVeda ''Manga/RGVeda'' it was established that a ThirdEye represents "sins even a demon wouldn't commit", so I was really confused when the Ashura statue in the country of Shara had one. But just now I remembered that he wished for Yasha to come back from the dead. Perhaps in the original timeline of that world (before Syaoran and co. mucked it up), this wish led him to doing something that messed with the natural order of things, hence the extra eye.
15th Aug '14 5:21:03 PM yuugame
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**[[spoiler:Well, they become true alternate counterparts once they reincarnate. Their originals, the two Tsubasa - one of which is their son - count too, which gets confusing...]]
16th Feb '14 3:23:06 PM Ecclytennysmithylove
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* The reason FWR found Fai and Yuui was because [[spoiler: real!Fai wished for death in the tower]] and that FWR fufilled his wish while at the same time making it seem like they really had a choice in the matter when [[spoiler:he asked them who should be the one to die so the other could live.]]
* FridgeBrilliance: Mokona's [[TranslatorMicrobes powers]] are the only thing that allows the characters from different worlds to communicate with each other, and only work when they're all near him. So why, when they split up in Outo country can they still talk to each other, and the other people in Outo? [[spoiler:Why of course, because Outo is actually a RPG made to be played be people from different worlds and has it's own translation circuit]]

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* The reason FWR found Fai and Yuui was because [[spoiler: real!Fai wished for death in the tower]] and that FWR fufilled fulfilled his wish while at the same time making it seem like they really had a choice in the matter when [[spoiler:he asked them who should be the one to die so the other could live.]]
* FridgeBrilliance: Mokona's [[TranslatorMicrobes powers]] are the only thing that allows the characters from different worlds to communicate with each other, and only work when they're all near him. So why, when they split up in Outo country can they still talk to each other, and the other people in Outo? [[spoiler:Why of course, because Outo is actually a RPG made to be played be people from different worlds and has it's own translation circuit]]



* The anime ''didn't'' cast MotokoKumai and Creator/SakuraTange in the lead roles, despite reusing the same voice actors between in-universe counterparts. Fandom was rather annoyed at this at the time. [[spoiler:But, as it turns out in the manga, they aren't really AlternateUniverse counterparts of the lead couple of ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura''...]]
* Most fans agree the casting was rather spot on.
* Creator/AyaHisakawa did return to her role as Kero from ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'' in the anime.
* In volume 24 we have a visit to the shop that was illustrated with the same angles and lines as the first chapter of ''xxxHolic'' as a big foreshadowing to the revelation that [[spoiler:the original Syaoran and Watanuki share the same role.]]



**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[spoiler:Tsubasa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your clone's travels, and than there new life as your crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit willingly), and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]

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**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[spoiler:Tsubasa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your clone's travels, and than there new life as your crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit (a bit willingly), and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]
16th Feb '14 2:14:08 PM kuld
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** [[MST3KMantra It's better if we all just don't think too much about it...]]
10th Jan '14 4:11:16 PM lordgale
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* This only seems to work in hindsight, since [[YukiKajiura Kajiura]] would have had no real idea what twists the plot would take at the point when the anime adaptation was begun, especially since it's one of the first tracks that plays in the anime as a whole, but A Song of Storm and Fire applies to [[spoiler: both Syaorans.]] The [[spoiler: original uses wind magic almost exclusively, and the clone prefers to use fire over everything else, both with Hien and Fai's eye.]] It's a literal song of Storm ( [[spoiler: The original Syaoran]]) and Fire ( [[spoiler: the clone.]] ), especially when they end up battling each other in [[spoiler: the world of dreams.]]
30th Dec '13 7:05:23 PM NonFictionFantasy
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** Tsubasa Li now has [[spoiler: the memory of sending himself to another dimension to fall in love with his moms original self because his wife had a dream]]
** And Tsubasa Sakura has all the [[spoiler: memories of C!Sakura which means she has all the memories of what it is to be Syaoran's mom. But never mind she was seeing everything through her clone's eyes ''the whole time'']], even while FrozenInTime.

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** Tsubasa Li [[spoiler:Tsubasa Li]] now has [[spoiler: the memory of sending himself to another dimension to fall in love with his moms original self because his wife had a dream]]
** And Tsubasa [[spoiler:Tsubasa]] Sakura has all the [[spoiler: memories of C!Sakura which means she has all the memories of what it is to be Syaoran's mom. But never mind she was seeing everything through her clone's eyes ''the whole time'']], even while FrozenInTime.



*** Wait a minute, then that would mean that Tsubasa!Sakura and Tsubasa!Syaoran would remember Tsubasa!Syaoran's, ahem, conception. That is, that one special night between his parents, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much... yeah, awkward to the max.

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*** Wait a minute, then that would mean that Tsubasa!Sakura [[spoiler:Tsubasa!]]Sakura and Tsubasa!Syaoran [[spoiler:Tsubasa!]]Syaoran would remember Tsubasa!Syaoran's, [[spoiler:Tsubasa!]]Syaoran's, ahem, conception. That is, that one special night between his parents, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much... yeah, awkward to the max.
3rd Nov '13 3:19:18 AM brandygang
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** Actually, this wouldn't occur at all, because [[spoiler:by the time he conceived Tsubasa, C!Tsubasa is longer a clone of him. He's now his clones reincarnation, but actually now inhabits the body of an CCS!Syaoran making him alt of him, with lineage from Clow Reed and a different origin now. And Presumably different genetics with it. Assuming that was truly the case however it need not be complicated, as Syaoran only had Tsubasa Li once, ontologically speaking. One inception, one copulation, one scramble of genetics, that was it. Just because his DNA would find itself back into the clone who would birth him doesn't mean I'd be necessarily selfcest. Like in a certain series [[homestuck, Syaoran is a paradox copy of Tsubasa who in turn also happens to be his son.... in this given scenario. It's a simple stable time-loop; Syaoran's existence is facilitated by Tsubasa's and vice-versa, (With Sakura's somewhere mixed in) looking into it deeper is just obfuscating the matter. But that's all completely irrelevant, since Syaoran being reincarnated into Alt!CCS!Syaoran, with the deceased C!Syaoran's soul is what helps make this less relevant of headscratching to think about.

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** Actually, this wouldn't occur at all, because [[spoiler:by the time he conceived Tsubasa, C!Tsubasa is longer a clone of him. He's now his clones reincarnation, but actually now inhabits the body of an CCS!Syaoran making him alt of him, with lineage from Clow Reed and a different origin now. And Presumably different genetics with it. Assuming that was truly the case however it need not be complicated, as Syaoran only had Tsubasa Li once, ontologically speaking. One inception, one copulation, one scramble of genetics, that was it. Just because his DNA would find itself back into the clone who would birth him doesn't mean I'd be necessarily selfcest. Like in a certain series [[homestuck, Syaoran is a paradox temporally created copy of Tsubasa who in turn also happens to be his son.... in this given scenario. The gene's are all there for the two to be created, and that Sakura was in the mix doesn't mean she's splicing/inserting herself into his existence, but she always was and always meant to be, coinciding with the whole destiny/cosmic familiarity theme ongoing. It's a simple stable time-loop; Syaoran's existence is facilitated by Tsubasa's and vice-versa, (With Sakura's somewhere mixed in) looking into it deeper is just obfuscating the matter. But that's all completely irrelevant, since Syaoran being reincarnated into Alt!CCS!Syaoran, with the deceased C!Syaoran's soul is what helps make this less relevant of headscratching to think about.
about.]]



**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[spoiler:Tsubasaa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your clone's travels, and than there new life as your crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit willingly), and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]

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**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[spoiler:Tsubasaa [[spoiler:Tsubasa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your clone's travels, and than there new life as your crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit willingly), and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]


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**Regardless of [[spoiler:Whether or not Tsubasa is related to himself or not, he's already naturally sort of an incestual child. His father (C!Syaoran reincarnated) was born as a relative of Clow Reed (Son? He's a descendant somehow). Mom clone Sakura also is related to Clow Reed already, assuming we believe the original timeline still happened, and to top it all off Princess Tsubasa Sakura is born of an Alt-version/reincarnation of Reed well before any of that happened. Squicky.]]
3rd Nov '13 2:35:28 AM brandygang
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** Actually, this wouldn't occur at all, because [[spoiler:C!Tsubasa is no longer a clone of Tsubasa Li. He's his clones reincarnation, but actually now inhabits a body of an CCS!Syaoran making him alt of him rather than a close of Tsubasa, with lineage from Clow Reed and a different origin now. And Presumably different genetics with it. Assuming that was truly the case however it need not be the case, as Syaoran only had Tsubasa Li once. One inception, one copulation, one scramble of genetics, that was it. Just because his DNA would find itself back into the clone who would birth him doesn't mean I'd be necessarily selfcest. Like a certain [[Homestuck ectobiological process]] Syaoran is a paradox copy of Tsubasa and also like his son, and vice versa.... in that given scenerio. Him being reincarnated into Alt!CCS!Syaoran, with CSS!Syaoran's body and C!Syaoran's soul is what helps make this less relevant of headscratching to think about.]]

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** Actually, this wouldn't occur at all, because [[spoiler:C!Tsubasa is no [[spoiler:by the time he conceived Tsubasa, C!Tsubasa is longer a clone of Tsubasa Li. him. He's now his clones reincarnation, but actually now inhabits a the body of an CCS!Syaoran making him alt of him rather than a close of Tsubasa, him, with lineage from Clow Reed and a different origin now. And Presumably different genetics with it. Assuming that was truly the case however it need not be the case, complicated, as Syaoran only had Tsubasa Li once.once, ontologically speaking. One inception, one copulation, one scramble of genetics, that was it. Just because his DNA would find itself back into the clone who would birth him doesn't mean I'd be necessarily selfcest. Like in a certain [[Homestuck ectobiological process]] series [[homestuck, Syaoran is a paradox copy of Tsubasa and who in turn also like happens to be his son, and vice versa.... son.... in that this given scenerio. Him scenario. It's a simple stable time-loop; Syaoran's existence is facilitated by Tsubasa's and vice-versa, (With Sakura's somewhere mixed in) looking into it deeper is just obfuscating the matter. But that's all completely irrelevant, since Syaoran being reincarnated into Alt!CCS!Syaoran, with CSS!Syaoran's body and the deceased C!Syaoran's soul is what helps make this less relevant of headscratching to think about.]]
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**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[Spoiler:Tsubasa Sakura obtained all the memories of C!Sakura mom entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point when she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with Kari/Nami rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your original clone's travels, but there new life as your love interest mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen (abit willingly), having to age regress again back to resembling yourself, and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]

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**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[Spoiler:Tsubasa Sakura [[spoiler:Tsubasaa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura mom C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point when where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with Kari/Nami [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your original clone's travels, but and than there new life as your love interest crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit willingly), having to age regress again back to resembling yourself, and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]
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