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16th Jun '17 3:51:03 PM Luigifan
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** Her profile in UFO did mention that she specialize in body ehnancing (as in strength, speed or durability) magic.

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** Her profile in UFO did mention that she specialize specializes in body ehnancing body-enhancing (as in strength, speed speed. or durability) magic.



* Spellcard Suika is [[BreatherLevel one of the easiest]] in ''Impossible Spell Card'', [[SelfImposedChallenge even if you do not use items]]. The game is based on the idea of ​​breaking the rules, and Suika WillNotTellALie.
** This is even easier if you use the doll as a passive item. Doll gives you [[SuperStrength Super Strength]], and Suika [[WillfullyWeak deliberately suppressing their true power]]. -@/{{Andyzero}}
* The Aki sisters being...sisters makes even more sense when you realize their domains are the same thing, but for different species. It's not just autumn. Why do leaves turn brown? The tree is harvesting the nutrients into their trunks for storage for the winter; just like how people harvest crops and store them. (A feast was one of the ways ancient people stored food; eat a lot of it in case storage goes bad then you've got fat for the winter, if nothing else.) Shizuha would get more respect if there were "tree" based youkai or dryads in Gensokyo. (Flower-based Youkai like Yuuka don't care; plus sunflowers are annual, they only live one year, so surviving the winter is not an issue; it's their seeds that come up the next spring.)
* The Scarlet Team and the Netherworld Team fighting Reimu and Marisa, respectively doesn't make too much at first. Then you realize those previously mentioned teams whose members were adversaries who were previously defeated by them in their previous journeys.

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* Spellcard Suika is [[BreatherLevel one of the easiest]] in ''Impossible Spell Card'', [[SelfImposedChallenge even if you do not use items]]. The game is based on the idea of ​​breaking breaking the rules, and Suika WillNotTellALie.
** This is even easier if you use the doll as a passive item. Doll The doll gives you [[SuperStrength Super Strength]], and Suika is [[WillfullyWeak deliberately suppressing their her true power]]. -@/{{Andyzero}}
* The Aki sisters being...sisters makes even more sense when you realize their domains are the same thing, but for different species. It's not just autumn. Why do leaves turn brown? The tree is harvesting the nutrients into their trunks for storage for the winter; just like how people harvest crops and store them. (A feast was one of the ways ancient people stored food; eat a lot of it in case storage goes bad then you've got fat for the winter, if nothing else.) Shizuha would get more respect if there were "tree" based "tree"-based youkai or dryads in Gensokyo. (Flower-based Youkai like Yuuka don't care; plus sunflowers are annual, they only live one year, so surviving the winter is not an issue; it's their seeds that come up the next spring.)
* The Scarlet Team and the Netherworld Team fighting Reimu and Marisa, respectively doesn't make too much sense at first. Then you realize those previously mentioned teams whose members were adversaries who were previously defeated by them in their previous journeys.



* Junko has, contrary to almost all other named characters, no expository BossSubtitles. This is because she has purified herself to the point where "Junko" is all she is. Clownpiece's subtitle, "Fairy of Hell", is just a direct description of what she is with no additional flair what so ever. Junko has purified her, too.

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* Junko has, contrary to almost all other named characters, no expository BossSubtitles. This is because she has purified herself to the point where "Junko" is all she is. Clownpiece's subtitle, "Fairy of Hell", is just a direct description of what she is with no additional flair what so ever.whatsoever. Junko has purified her, too.



* If one really thinks about it, the series use of the UnreliableNarrator makes a whole lot of sense when looked at from the narrative as a whole. Namely that it has paradoxes like SchrodingersButterfly and UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat as it's central recurring theme. Remember that those paradoxes only remain as long as they aren't directly observed, and the UnreliableNarrator ties directly into that. If we where ever to know the full truth, then we would observe a state of the paradox and give it form, thus causing it to break down and no longer be a paradox.

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* If one really thinks about it, the series series' use of the UnreliableNarrator makes a whole lot of sense when looked at from the narrative as a whole. Namely that it has paradoxes like SchrodingersButterfly and UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat as it's its central recurring theme. Remember that those paradoxes only remain as long as they aren't directly observed, and the UnreliableNarrator ties directly into that. If we where were ever to know the full truth, then we would observe a state of the paradox and give it form, thus causing it to break down and no longer be a paradox.



* [[RealityWarper Yukari]] has a habit of bringing people she likes into Gensoukyou. And if they don't manage to find the only human village before they are discovered, they will be eaten. No exceptions. In other words, Yukari is behind the disappearance and death of possibly hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Including children. And considering the hands and eyes in her gaps, the ones who died are most likely the lucky ones.
* On the note of Yukari... her abilities. How many boundaries are there that could spell doom? Boundary of fantasy and reality is the quite clear example (and actually is observable in universe as the Hakurei Barrier), but this troper noticed another, more dangerous boundary: Boundary of real and false vacuum. If she wanted to she not only could destroy the world, but the entire universe.

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* [[RealityWarper Yukari]] has a habit of bringing people she likes into Gensoukyou.Gensokyo. And if they don't manage to find the only human village before they are discovered, they will be eaten. No exceptions. In other words, Yukari is behind the disappearance and death of possibly hundreds, if not thousands, of people. Including children. And considering the hands and eyes in her gaps, the ones who died are most likely the lucky ones.
* On the note of Yukari... her abilities. How many boundaries are there that could spell doom? Boundary of fantasy and reality is the quite clear example (and actually is observable in universe in-universe as the Hakurei Barrier), but this troper noticed another, more dangerous boundary: Boundary of real and false vacuum. If she wanted to to, she not only could destroy the world, but the entire universe.universe.
** On a more personal level, the cell membrane is itself a boundary. ''Yukari could disrupt this boundary and '''melt a person at the cellular level''''', basically dissolving them into lifeless sludge.



** Well, it's implied Yuyuko was intending to give the spring back to Gensokyo once the cherry tree bloom, actually. She just didn't know the tree was evil.

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** Well, it's implied Yuyuko was intending to give the spring back to Gensokyo once the cherry tree bloom, bloomed, actually. She just didn't know the tree was evil.



** Utsuho has an excuse though, since she was [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity driven temporarily mad by the power]] she was given. She wasn't a threat any more once sense was knocked back into her by the player character. The real problem comes with the person who made her this way, [[JerkassGods Kanako]], who originally intended to use her to create a power plant. While that goal in itself isn't really bad, it doesn't change the fact that the events of Subterranean Animism wouldn't have happened if she hadn't tried to turn Utsuho into a living nuclear battery.

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** Utsuho has an excuse excuse, though, since she was [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity she was driven temporarily mad by the power]] she was given. She wasn't a threat any more anymore once sense was knocked back into her by the player character. The real problem comes with the person who made her this way, [[JerkassGods Kanako]], who originally intended to use her to create a power plant. While that goal in itself isn't really bad, it doesn't change the fact that the events of Subterranean Animism wouldn't have happened if she hadn't tried to turn Utsuho into a living nuclear battery.



* Gensokyou's existence is bound to Reimu's. Then what would happen if an OmnicidalManiac rolled along and decided to go for Reimu as the most efficient way.
** They'll be killed by Reimu (or Yukari), of course. There's a reason no one dare to disrespect her.(one of them is Fantasy Heaven).

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* Gensokyou's existence is bound to Reimu's. Then what would happen if an OmnicidalManiac rolled along and decided to go for Reimu as the most efficient way.
way?
** They'll be killed by Reimu (or Yukari), of course. There's a reason no one dare dares to disrespect her.(one her. (One of them is Fantasy Heaven).Heaven.)



*** Well that would certainly explain her desire for attention.

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*** Well Well, that would certainly explain her desire for attention.



* In ''Wild and Horned Hermit'' multiple characters drink from Kasen's box, which causes them to become [[BoisterousBruiser as loudmouthed and aggressive as an oni]]. It's implied that [[AxCrazy Yuuka]] was one of them. [[OhCrap Let's hope that nobody got remotely close to her afterwards]].
* In ''Hopeless Masquerade'', Nitori appears with [[spoiler: a shirikodama in hand]]. It's implied that she got it from a random person in the crowd at the temple. Considering the process by which that sort of thing is obtained...
** Considering the removal tends to be fatal [[note]]One of the inspirations for the kappa myth was the fact that drowning victims were found with enlarged anuses[[/note]] that means she probably killed some random and ''is still gaining popularity!'' Clearly the poor [[{{Pun}} Butt]] [[ButtMonkey Monkey]] wasn't very popular.

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* In ''Wild and Horned Hermit'' Hermit'', multiple characters drink from Kasen's box, which causes them to become [[BoisterousBruiser as loudmouthed and aggressive as an oni]]. It's implied that [[AxCrazy Yuuka]] was one of them. [[OhCrap Let's hope that nobody got remotely close to her afterwards]].
afterwards.]]
* In ''Hopeless Masquerade'', Nitori appears with [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a shirikodama in hand]]. It's implied that she got it from a random person in the crowd at the temple. Considering the process by which that sort of thing is obtained...
** Considering the removal tends to be fatal [[note]]One of the inspirations for the kappa myth was the fact that drowning victims were found with enlarged anuses[[/note]] that means she probably killed some random schmuck and ''is still gaining popularity!'' Clearly the poor [[{{Pun}} Butt]] [[ButtMonkey Monkey]] wasn't very popular.



* Seija's personality is always opposite to those around her so what if she encountered an extremely pure and good character? Would we then have an UltimateEvil or a Monster on our hands?

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* Seija's personality is always opposite to those around her her, so what if she encountered an extremely pure and good character? Would we then have an UltimateEvil or a Monster on our hands?



* What will happen to Mokou and Kaguya in the future? Hint: the sun will deplete it's hydrogen supply, growing big enough to destroy the Earth, then collapse, and then the entire universe will decay as it tends toward maximum entropy. Where does that leave them? Dying and resurrecting in hard vacuum, '''forever'''!!!
* ''Wild and Hornet Hermit'' reveals that not only objects but real living creatures and individuals can end up entering Gensokyou if forgotten by those around them. So that brings the question, just how many humans ended up entering Gensokyou by simply being forgotten while still alive?

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* What will happen to Mokou and Kaguya in the future? Hint: the sun will deplete it's its hydrogen supply, growing big enough to destroy the Earth, then collapse, and then the entire universe will decay as it tends toward maximum entropy. Where does that leave them? Dying and resurrecting in hard vacuum, '''forever'''!!!
'''forever!!!'''
** No wonder the Hourai Elixir is taboo...
* ''Wild and Hornet Hermit'' reveals that not only objects objects, but real living creatures and individuals can end up entering Gensokyou if forgotten by those around them. So that brings the question, just how many humans ended up entering Gensokyou by simply being forgotten while still alive?



** Well, magician in there aren't really "human". So that's probably what she meant.

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** Well, magician magicians in there aren't really "human". So that's probably what she meant.
4th Jun '17 2:59:58 PM nombretomado
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* This one is not canon, but goes for ''Sengoku Gensoukyou'' (a fangame which does not have a TVTropes entry... yet). Every available species has {{Red Shirt}}s with minor variations of the same portraits and names. Those names range from mundane to {{Narm}}fully bizarre (Rokusuke Boozer - yes, Boozer is his last name) to... ''[[InfantImmortality Child]] [[AvertedTrope Ghost]]''. Said ghost has such low stats, they will likely hurt themselves more than the opponent from a melee attack. There is nothing keeping you from keeping this child in your prison forever, either. (On a semi-related note, your prisoners are always at 1 HP and need to be healed at the start of the turn after you recruit them, which makes you wonder what the conditions in that prison are like...)

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* This one is not canon, but goes for ''Sengoku Gensoukyou'' (a fangame which does not have a TVTropes Wiki/TVTropes entry... yet). Every available species has {{Red Shirt}}s with minor variations of the same portraits and names. Those names range from mundane to {{Narm}}fully bizarre (Rokusuke Boozer - yes, Boozer is his last name) to... ''[[InfantImmortality Child]] [[AvertedTrope Ghost]]''. Said ghost has such low stats, they will likely hurt themselves more than the opponent from a melee attack. There is nothing keeping you from keeping this child in your prison forever, either. (On a semi-related note, your prisoners are always at 1 HP and need to be healed at the start of the turn after you recruit them, which makes you wonder what the conditions in that prison are like...)
4th May '17 3:49:36 PM WatcherCCG
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* This one is not canon, but goes for ''Sengoku Gensoukyou'' (a fangame which does not have a TVTropes entry... yet). Every available species has {{Red Shirt}}s with minor variations of the same portraits and names. Those names range from mundane to {{Narm}}fully bizarre (Rokusuke Boozer - yes, Boozer is his last name) to... ''[[InfantImmortality Child]] [[AvertedTrope Ghost]]''. Said ghost has such low stats, they will likely hurt themselves more than the opponent from a melee attack. There is nothing keeping you from keeping this child in your prison forever, either. (On a semi-related note, your prisoners are always at 1 HP and need to be healed at the start of the turn after you recruit them, which makes you wonder what the conditions in that prison are like...)

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* This one is not canon, but goes for ''Sengoku Gensoukyou'' (a fangame which does not have a TVTropes entry... yet). Every available species has {{Red Shirt}}s with minor variations of the same portraits and names. Those names range from mundane to {{Narm}}fully bizarre (Rokusuke Boozer - yes, Boozer is his last name) to... ''[[InfantImmortality Child]] [[AvertedTrope Ghost]]''. Said ghost has such low stats, they will likely hurt themselves more than the opponent from a melee attack. There is nothing keeping you from keeping this child in your prison forever, either. (On a semi-related note, your prisoners are always at 1 HP and need to be healed at the start of the turn after you recruit them, which makes you wonder what the conditions in that prison are like...))
* Yukari often mentions that youkai are getting their food from somewhere in the outside world. Well, there happens to be a very convenient place for youkai to go hunting in Japan: Aokigahara. Dark, isolated, possibly outright haunted, and full of humans who have given up on living, the "Suicide Forest" is the perfect place for youkai to go meat shopping.
19th Dec '16 9:28:21 PM ImaginaryMetroid
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** She's already trying to overthrow the society of Gensokyo, so it probably wouldn't be too much worse. Besides which, it wouldn't make her any more dangerous, since that has no bearing on how strong she is.
14th Jul '16 1:40:47 AM Kijin
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*** Except that's not how Sagume's ability works. Sagume's ability only works on situations of events, so if her ability really worked that way, then some bits of her dialogue (e.g "You're terribly strong.", "The people of the moon aren't aware
of any of this, though.") would've completely changed the storyline.

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*** Except ***Except that's not how Sagume's ability works. Sagume's ability only works on situations of events, so if her ability really worked that way, then some bits of her dialogue (e.g "You're terribly strong.", "The people of the moon aren't aware
aware of any of this, though.") would've completely changed the storyline.storyline, so your point is null and void.
14th Jul '16 1:39:58 AM Kijin
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***Except that's not how Sagume's ability works. Sagume's ability only works on situations of events, so if her ability really worked that way, then some bits of her dialogue (e.g "You're terribly strong.", "The people of the moon aren't aware
of any of this, though.") would've completely changed the storyline.
19th May '16 1:42:10 AM matteste
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* If one really thinks about it, the series use of the UnreliableNarrator makes a whole lot of sense when looked at from the narrative as a whole. Namely that it has paradoxes like SchrodingersButterfly and UsefulNotes/SchrodingersCat as it's central recurring theme. Remember that those paradoxes only remain as long as they aren't directly observed, and the UnreliableNarrator ties directly into that. If we where ever to know the full truth, then we would observe a state of the paradox and give it form, thus causing it to break down and no longer be a paradox.
7th Mar '16 1:44:31 PM rmctagg09
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* I always thought that the songs present in PoFV sounded a bit... empty, for lack of a better expression, as if channels were missing from them. Then I actually played the game and realised this might be intentional. At any given moment, the sound effects will make twice the amount of noise made in one BulletHell. If the music had been as elaborate as it tends to be in the other games, it would all probably sound like a cluttered mess. While I still prefer certain covers, it now makes sense why ZUN would write them like he did.

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* I always thought that the songs present in PoFV [=PoFV=] sounded a bit... empty, for lack of a better expression, as if channels were missing from them. Then I actually played the game and realised this might be intentional. At any given moment, the sound effects will make twice the amount of noise made in one BulletHell. If the music had been as elaborate as it tends to be in the other games, it would all probably sound like a cluttered mess. While I still prefer certain covers, it now makes sense why ZUN would write them like he did.
7th Mar '16 12:44:18 PM RashandFierce
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* I always thought that the songs present in POFV sounded a bit... empty, for lack of a better expression, as if channels were missing from them. Then I actually played the game and realised this might be intentional. At any given moment, the sound effects will make twice the amount of noise made in one BulletHell. If the music had been as elaborate as it tends to be in the other games, it would all probably sound like a cluttered mess. While I still prefer certain covers, it now makes sense why ZUN would write them like he did.

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** Same goes for Mai. Her personality and the title of her theme music may be a reference to the ninth circle of Hell, which represents treacherous sin with the frozen river named Cocytus, where the biblical traitor Judas Iscariot is being tortured for all eternity.
* I always thought that the songs present in POFV PoFV sounded a bit... empty, for lack of a better expression, as if channels were missing from them. Then I actually played the game and realised this might be intentional. At any given moment, the sound effects will make twice the amount of noise made in one BulletHell. If the music had been as elaborate as it tends to be in the other games, it would all probably sound like a cluttered mess. While I still prefer certain covers, it now makes sense why ZUN would write them like he did.
7th Feb '16 5:55:36 AM SystemCellar
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* [[RealityWarper Yukari]] has a habit of bringing people she likes into Gensoukyou. And if they don't manage to find the only human village before they are discovered, they will be eaten. No exceptions.
** yukari is behind the disappearance and death of possibly hundreds if not thousands of people including children and considering the hands and eyes in her gaps the ones who died are most likely the lucky ones.

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* [[RealityWarper Yukari]] has a habit of bringing people she likes into Gensoukyou. And if they don't manage to find the only human village before they are discovered, they will be eaten. No exceptions.
** yukari
exceptions. In other words, Yukari is behind the disappearance and death of possibly hundreds hundreds, if not thousands thousands, of people including children and people. Including children. And considering the hands and eyes in her gaps gaps, the ones who died are most likely the lucky ones.



** There's probably already a grave before (where else do you suppose to buried people)? And the temple asked to placed their in order to lead the soul to the afterlife.

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** There's probably already a grave before (where else do you suppose to buried people)? And At least some of the temple asked graves have to placed their in order to lead be older than the soul cemetary, and have been transported there to help the deceased pass on to the afterlife.



** Well, magician in there aren't really "human". So that's probably what she meant.

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** Well, magician in there aren't really "human". So that's probably what she meant.meant.
* This one is not canon, but goes for ''Sengoku Gensoukyou'' (a fangame which does not have a TVTropes entry... yet). Every available species has {{Red Shirt}}s with minor variations of the same portraits and names. Those names range from mundane to {{Narm}}fully bizarre (Rokusuke Boozer - yes, Boozer is his last name) to... ''[[InfantImmortality Child]] [[AvertedTrope Ghost]]''. Said ghost has such low stats, they will likely hurt themselves more than the opponent from a melee attack. There is nothing keeping you from keeping this child in your prison forever, either. (On a semi-related note, your prisoners are always at 1 HP and need to be healed at the start of the turn after you recruit them, which makes you wonder what the conditions in that prison are like...)
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