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* In the beginning, there was God. The LogoJoke thus features Mount Sinai, said in the film to be God's residence, as the first place seen.
* I noticed, while watching ''The Ten Commandments'', that a good number of characters make prophetic predictions about what will happen in the future. And at first, all of them come true. Especially notable is when Bithia makes Mamnet swear not to tell anyone that Moses is Hebrew and warns her that "the day you break that oath will be the last your eyes shall ever see." This prediction comes true, but does so for reasons that Bithia could not have had anything to do with. Even Rameses gets in on the action at one point. But beginning right after Nefertiri kills Mamnet (which is the event that kicks off Moses eventually being kicked out of Egypt), all this breaks down. After that point, only predictions made by Moses come true. Rameses makes some attempts to state what will happen, but even actions over which he has complete control--like whether or not he kills Nefertiri near-ish the end of the movie--do not come out as he predicted. --[=JurassicMosquito=]
** All bar one: Rameses' promise/prediction to his father on his deathbed that he will make Egypt's greatness feared among the nations. That much is true; Rameses II was known as "the Builder" and basically inducted Egypt into a golden age of prosperity. (Well, aside from the alleged destruction of his entire army by a certain Hebrew God, but that's another story.
** You're also forgetting Miriam's warning to store up on water. Moses can be assumed to have told her what was going to happen, but the women say "Miriam is always right!" She did this often and is mentioned in Exodus 15 as a prophet.
* The following exchange around the time of the tenth plague:
--> '''Nefretiri''' ''[pleading]'': I saved your son.\\
'''Moses''' ''[resigned]'': I... cannot save yours.
** Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Dathan has a brother, Abhiram, who may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.
* And this:
--> '''Joshua.''' How can you find peace or want it, when Rameses builds cities mortared with the blood of our people! You ''must'' lead them out of Egypt!\\
'''Moses.''' God made a covenant with Abraham that He would deliver the people! Am I the hand of God?
** (Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.)
* You can see the StubbornMule as a bit of foreshadowing for the (eventual) fate of the Israelites--after four hundred years of bondage, he immediately abuses his freedom by refusing to move, even though doing so would prove to be in his best interest.
* Rameses' threat to mingle Nefereiri's blood with that of Moses is an ironic culmination of the fears and desires of several Egyptians. Bithiah and Neferteri both wanted Moses to become the next Pharaoh thereby causing the blood of a Hebrew to be mixed with that of the royal family through the children that he would produce. Memnet was horrified at that possibility, while Sethi was more ambivalent to it once made aware. In the end, Rameses being unable to kill Moses meant that even the subverted possibility of Moses and Neferteri's blood being literally mixed did not come to pass.
* When Adult Moses is first introduced, the announcer mentions that he is ''Beloved of the Nile god'', which at first seems like a cheeky reference to his adoption (i.e. he was picked up from the river). But from his first scenes, Bithia was ''all too happy'' [[HappilyAdopted to adopt him]]. She claimed that her deceased husband personally asked the Nile god to give her a baby, and at the time this was exactly what she believed.

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!FridgeBrilliance
* In the beginning, there was God. The LogoJoke thus features Mount Sinai, said in the film to be God's residence, as the first place seen.
* I noticed, while watching ''The Ten Commandments'', that a good number of characters make prophetic predictions about what will happen in the future. And at first, all of them come true. Especially notable is when Bithia makes Mamnet swear not to tell anyone that Moses is Hebrew and warns her that "the day you break that oath will be the last your eyes shall ever see." This prediction comes true, but does so for reasons that Bithia could not have had anything to do with. Even Rameses gets in on the action at one point. But beginning right after Nefertiri kills Mamnet (which is the event that kicks off Moses eventually being kicked out of Egypt), all this breaks down. After that point, only predictions made by Moses come true. Rameses makes some attempts to state what will happen, but even actions over which he has complete control--like whether or not he kills Nefertiri near-ish the end of the movie--do not come out as he predicted. --[=JurassicMosquito=]
** All bar one: Rameses' promise/prediction to his father on his deathbed that he will make Egypt's greatness feared among the nations. That much is true; Rameses II was known as "the Builder" and basically inducted Egypt into a golden age of prosperity. (Well, aside from the alleged destruction of his entire army by a certain Hebrew God, but that's another story.
** You're also forgetting Miriam's warning to store up on water. Moses can be assumed to have told her what was going to happen, but the women say "Miriam is always right!" She did this often and is mentioned in Exodus 15 as a prophet.
* The following exchange around the time of the tenth plague:
--> '''Nefretiri''' ''[pleading]'': I saved your son.\\
'''Moses''' ''[resigned]'': I... cannot save yours.
** Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Dathan has a brother, Abhiram, who may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.
* And this:
--> '''Joshua.''' How can you find peace or want it, when Rameses builds cities mortared with the blood of our people! You ''must'' lead them out of Egypt!\\
'''Moses.''' God made a covenant with Abraham that He would deliver the people! Am I the hand of God?
** (Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.)
* You can see the StubbornMule as a bit of foreshadowing for the (eventual) fate of the Israelites--after four hundred years of bondage, he immediately abuses his freedom by refusing to move, even though doing so would prove to be in his best interest.
* Rameses' threat to mingle Nefereiri's blood with that of Moses is an ironic culmination of the fears and desires of several Egyptians. Bithiah and Neferteri both wanted Moses to become the next Pharaoh thereby causing the blood of a Hebrew to be mixed with that of the royal family through the children that he would produce. Memnet was horrified at that possibility, while Sethi was more ambivalent to it once made aware. In the end, Rameses being unable to kill Moses meant that even the subverted possibility of Moses and Neferteri's blood being literally mixed did not come to pass.
* When Adult Moses is first introduced, the announcer mentions that he is ''Beloved of the Nile god'', which at first seems like a cheeky reference to his adoption (i.e. he was picked up from the river). But from his first scenes, Bithia was ''all too happy'' [[HappilyAdopted to adopt him]]. She claimed that her deceased husband personally asked the Nile god to give her a baby, and at the time this was exactly what she believed.

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* Rameses' threat to mingle Nefereiri's blood with that of Moses is an ironic culmination of the fears and desires of several Egyptians. Bithiah and Neferteri both wanted Moses to become the next Pharaoh thereby causing the blood of a Hebrew to be mixed with that of the royal family through the children that he would produce. Memnet was horrified at that possibility, while Sethi was more ambivalent to it once made aware. In the end, Rameses being unable to kill Moses meant that even the subverted possibility of Moses and Neferteri's blood being literally mixed did not come to pass.
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* In the beginning, there was God. The LogoJoke thus features Mount Sinai, said in the film to be God's residence, as the first place seen.
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* When Adult Moses is first introduced, the announcer mentions that he is ''Beloved of the Nile god'', which at first seems like a cheeky reference to his adoption (i.e. he was picked up from the river). But from his first scenes, Bithia was ''all too happy'' [[HappilyAdopted to adopt him]]. She claimed that her deceased husband personally asked the Nile god to give her a baby, and at the time this was exactly what she believed.
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'''Moses''' ''[resigned]]'': I... cannot save yours.

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'''Moses''' ''[resigned]]'': ''[resigned]'': I... cannot save yours.



* You can see the StubbornMule as a bit of foreshadowing for the (eventual) fate of the Israelites--after four hundred years of bondage, he immediately abuses his freedom by refusing to move, even though doing so would prove to be in his best interest.

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* You can see the StubbornMule as a bit of foreshadowing for the (eventual) fate of the Israelites--after four hundred years of bondage, he immediately abuses his freedom by refusing to move, even though doing so would prove to be in his best interest.interest.

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--> '''Nefretiri''' ''[[pleading]]'': I saved your son.\\

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** You're also forgetting Miriam's warning to store up on water. Moses can be assumed to have told her what was going to happen, but the women say "Miriam is always right!" She did this often and is mentioned in Exodus 15 as a prophet.
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-> '''Nefretiri''' ''[[pleading]]'': I saved your son.\\

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-> --> '''Nefretiri''' ''[[pleading]]'': I saved your son.\\



--> Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Dathan has a brother, Abhiram, who may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.

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--> ** Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Dathan has a brother, Abhiram, who may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.



-> '''Joshua.''' How can you find peace or want it, when Rameses builds cities mortared with the blood of our people! You ''must'' lead them out of Egypt!
-> '''Moses.''' God made a covenant with Abraham that He would deliver the people! Am I the hand of God?
--> (Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.)

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-> --> '''Joshua.''' How can you find peace or want it, when Rameses builds cities mortared with the blood of our people! You ''must'' lead them out of Egypt!
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Egypt!\\
'''Moses.''' God made a covenant with Abraham that He would deliver the people! Am I the hand of God?
--> ** (Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.)

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** All bar one: Rameses' promise/prediction to his father on his deathbed that he will make Egypt's greatness feared among the nations. That much is true; Rameses II was known as "the Builder" and basically inducted Egypt into a golden age of prosperity. (Well, aside from the alleged destruction of his entire army by a certain Hebrew God, but that's another story.)
*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Akhenaton while archaeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.

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** All bar one: Rameses' promise/prediction to his father on his deathbed that he will make Egypt's greatness feared among the nations. That much is true; Rameses II was known as "the Builder" and basically inducted Egypt into a golden age of prosperity. (Well, aside from the alleged destruction of his entire army by a certain Hebrew God, but that's another story.)
*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Akhenaton while archaeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Akhenaton while archeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Akhenaton while archeologists archaeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.



Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Dathan has a brother, Abhiram, who may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.

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--> Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Dathan has a brother, Abhiram, who may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.



Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.

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Um, --> (Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.)
* You can see the StubbornMule as a bit of foreshadowing for the (eventual) fate of the Israelites--after four hundred years of bondage, he immediately abuses his freedom by refusing to move, even though doing so would prove to be in his best interest.

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** All bar one: Rameses' promise/prediction to his father on his deathbed that he will make Egypt great among the nations. That much is true; Rameses II was known as "the Builder" and basically inducted Egypt into a golden age of prosperity. (Well, aside from the alleged destruction of his entire army by a certain Hebrew God, but that's another story.)

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** All bar one: Rameses' promise/prediction to his father on his deathbed that he will make Egypt great Egypt's greatness feared among the nations. That much is true; Rameses II was known as "the Builder" and basically inducted Egypt into a golden age of prosperity. (Well, aside from the alleged destruction of his entire army by a certain Hebrew God, but that's another story.)


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* And this:
-> '''Joshua.''' How can you find peace or want it, when Rameses builds cities mortared with the blood of our people! You ''must'' lead them out of Egypt!
-> '''Moses.''' God made a covenant with Abraham that He would deliver the people! Am I the hand of God?
Um, yeah, you are. Remember Baka? The old guy in the mud pit said "May the hand of God strike him!" for stealing Liliah. A few scenes later you strangled him with his own whip.
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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton while archeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton Akhenaton while archeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.



Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Possibly, although Dathan is shown to have a brother, Ephairam, who ''looks'' older; we don't know [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what happened to him]].[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.

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Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan Dathan's house to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well.[[note]]Possibly, although Dathan is shown to have [[note]]Dathan has a brother, Ephairam, Abhiram, who ''looks'' older; we don't know [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what happened to him]].may be older. Both are seen after the Passover, so whoever was older was saved.[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.
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Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well. Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.

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Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well. [[note]]Possibly, although Dathan is shown to have a brother, Ephairam, who ''looks'' older; we don't know [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what happened to him]].[[/note]] Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.
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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton while archeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton while archeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.place.
* The following exchange around the time of the tenth plague:
-> '''Nefretiri''' ''[[pleading]]'': I saved your son.\\
'''Moses''' ''[resigned]]'': I... cannot save yours.
Except that.... ''he totally can''. As demonstrated, the plague doesn't care who you are or what your character is - it will kill your first-born if you haven't marked your door with lamb's blood, and will Pass Over you if you do. Joshua does it to Dathan to save the woman he loves, which is implied to save Dathan himself as well. Moses himself grants Bithia sanctuary in his own home as well, so he's clearly aware of this. In short, if he had told Nefretiri to grab her son and come to his house he COULD have saved him. This is not Moses being helpless in the face of the will of God, it's him actively choosing to turn his back on the woman he once loved for the sake of his current path. It shows his transformation more than anything else does.
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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton.Ahkenaton while archeologists of the Middle East have largely concluded that the events of Exodus never happened because current evidence is that Hebrew nation never left Palestine for Egypt at Joseph's invitation in the first place.
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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton.
**** Of course, the [[http://www.examiner.com/article/the-jewish-exodus-from-egypt-never-happened exodus never happened]] anyway, so it's kind of a moot point, which even Jews and Israelis now admit.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton.
**** Of course, the [[http://www.examiner.com/article/the-jewish-exodus-from-egypt-never-happened exodus never happened]] anyway, so it's kind of a moot point, which even Jews and Israelis now admit.
Ahkenaton.
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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton.

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*** The idea of Ramses II being the unnamed Pharoah from the Bible [[WordOfDante pretty much comes from this movie anyway]]. Most scholars put the Exodus as centuries away from his rule, often during the rule of Ahkenaton.Ahkenaton.
**** Of course, the [[http://www.examiner.com/article/the-jewish-exodus-from-egypt-never-happened exodus never happened]] anyway, so it's kind of a moot point, which even Jews and Israelis now admit.
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* I noticed, while watching ''The Ten Commandments'', that a good number of characters make phrophetic predictions about what will happen in the future. And at first, all of them come true. Especially notable is when Bithia makes Mamnet swear not to tell anyone that Moses is Hebrew and warns her that "the day you break that oath will be the last your eyes shall ever see." This prediction comes true, but does so for reasons that Bithia could not have had anything to do with. Even Rameses gets in on the action at one point. But beginning right after Nephertiri kills Mamnet (which is the event that kicks off Moses eventually being kicked out of Egypt), all this breaks down. After that point, only predictions made by Moses come true. Rameses makes some attempts to state what will happen, but even actions over which he has complete control--like whether or not he kills Nephertiri near-ish the end of the movie--do not come out as he predicted. --[=JurassicMosquito=]

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* I noticed, while watching ''The Ten Commandments'', that a good number of characters make phrophetic prophetic predictions about what will happen in the future. And at first, all of them come true. Especially notable is when Bithia makes Mamnet swear not to tell anyone that Moses is Hebrew and warns her that "the day you break that oath will be the last your eyes shall ever see." This prediction comes true, but does so for reasons that Bithia could not have had anything to do with. Even Rameses gets in on the action at one point. But beginning right after Nephertiri Nefertiri kills Mamnet (which is the event that kicks off Moses eventually being kicked out of Egypt), all this breaks down. After that point, only predictions made by Moses come true. Rameses makes some attempts to state what will happen, but even actions over which he has complete control--like whether or not he kills Nephertiri Nefertiri near-ish the end of the movie--do not come out as he predicted. --[=JurassicMosquito=]

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