History Fridge / TheSopranos

21st Jan '16 7:36:28 PM Luigifan
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* [[spoiler: y burning down his original restaurant, Vesuvio]], Tony reassured that Artie's reputation wouldn't be compromised.
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* [[spoiler: y [[spoiler:By burning down his original restaurant, Vesuvio]], Tony reassured that Artie's reputation wouldn't be compromised.

* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:The fate of Tony's family after the show ends. Whenever Carmella pesters Tony about what the family will do for money if he dies, Tony tells her that the information will be made available to her when "the time comes." However, by the end of the show, Tony's consigliere is in a coma, and his two most trusted right-hand men (Bobby and Christopher) are dead. This means that, if Tony did indeed die in the show's finale, that his family's finacial well-being is left in the hands of the resentful Patsy Parisi and the ever-unreliable Paulie. Given that both of them have been shown to dislike Carmella (with Paulie showing he was willing to screw her out of money before Tony was even dead), and that neither knew the extent of Tony's banking relationships, it is unlikely Carmella and her children will be left with much of anything. Without his father's influence, it is equally unlikely that AJ will keep his job, and Meadow will lack the means to pay for her law school.]]
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[[AC:FridgeHorror]] * FridgeHorror: [[spoiler:The fate of Tony's family after the show ends. Whenever Carmella pesters Tony about what the family will do for money if he dies, Tony tells her that the information will be made available to her when "the time comes." However, by the end of the show, Tony's consigliere is in a coma, and his two most trusted right-hand men (Bobby and Christopher) are dead. This means that, if Tony did indeed die in the show's finale, that his family's finacial well-being is left in the hands of the resentful Patsy Parisi and the ever-unreliable Paulie. Given that both of them have been shown to dislike Carmella (with Paulie showing he was willing to screw her out of money before Tony was even dead), and that neither knew the extent of Tony's banking relationships, it is unlikely Carmella and her children will be left with much of anything. Without his father's influence, it is equally unlikely that AJ will keep his job, and Meadow will lack the means to pay for her law school.]]
21st Jan '16 7:35:47 PM Luigifan
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* One of Gloria Trillo's favorite songs is Affection by Steve Van Zandt. Sure, this doubles as a ShoutOut to Van Zandt playing Silvio Dante and a clear sign that Gloria wants more affection from Tony, but one of the lines in the song is [[spoiler: "I'm the spirit that haunts your dreams." In "The Test Dream," she literally haunts Tony's dream.]] * [[spoiler: By burning down his original restaurant, Vesuvio]], Tony reassured that Artie's reputation wouldn't be compromised. ** And even if he justifiably [[spoiler: kill Tony because of his place being burned, Artie will be automatically whacked by Tony's vengeful crime family.]]
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* One of Gloria Trillo's favorite songs is Affection by Steve Van Zandt. Sure, this doubles as a ShoutOut to Van Zandt playing Silvio Dante and a clear sign that Gloria wants more affection from Tony, but one of the lines in the song is [[spoiler: "I'm [[spoiler:"I'm the spirit that haunts your dreams." In "The Test Dream," she literally haunts Tony's dream.]] * [[spoiler: By y burning down his original restaurant, Vesuvio]], Tony reassured that Artie's reputation wouldn't be compromised. ** And even if he justifiably [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kills Tony because of his place being burned, Artie will be automatically whacked by Tony's vengeful crime family.]]

* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved an drunk Artie from telling everyone that Tony burned down the original Vesuvio. ** After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. He knew saying it then would be pointless let alone justify Carmela's rant even more ** Also, remembering it was Livia, who told him about Tony's involvement, he also got the idea that she manipulated him into Artie confronting Tony with the rifle in chances of committing the second and possibly successful assassination attempt on her son.
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* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved an a drunk Artie from telling everyone that Tony burned down the original Vesuvio. ** After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an a harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an a mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. He knew saying it then would be pointless let alone pointless, and would probably justify Carmela's rant even more more. ** Also, remembering it was Livia, Livia who told him about Tony's involvement, he also got the idea that she manipulated him into Artie confronting Tony with the rifle in chances of to try committing the second and possibly successful assassination attempt on her son.

* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The fate of Tony's family after the show ends. Whenever Carmella pesters Tony about what the family will do for money if he dies, Tony tells her that the information will be made available to her when "the time comes." However, by the end of the show Tony's consigliere is in a coma, and his two most trusted right-hand men (Bobby and Christopher) are dead. This means that, if Tony did indeed die in the show's finale, that his family's finacial well-being is left in the hands of the resentful Patsy Parisi and the ever-unreliable Paulie. Given that both of them have been shown to dislike Carmella (with Paulie showing he was willing to screw her out of money before Tony was even dead), and that neither knew the extent of Tony's banking relationships, it is unlikely Carmella and her children will be left with much of anything. Without his father's influence, it is equally unlikely that AJ will keep his job, and Meadow will lack the means to pay for her law school.]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The fate of Tony's family after the show ends. Whenever Carmella pesters Tony about what the family will do for money if he dies, Tony tells her that the information will be made available to her when "the time comes." However, by the end of the show show, Tony's consigliere is in a coma, and his two most trusted right-hand men (Bobby and Christopher) are dead. This means that, if Tony did indeed die in the show's finale, that his family's finacial well-being is left in the hands of the resentful Patsy Parisi and the ever-unreliable Paulie. Given that both of them have been shown to dislike Carmella (with Paulie showing he was willing to screw her out of money before Tony was even dead), and that neither knew the extent of Tony's banking relationships, it is unlikely Carmella and her children will be left with much of anything. Without his father's influence, it is equally unlikely that AJ will keep his job, and Meadow will lack the means to pay for her law school.]]

** Have not watched the show in quite a while but I was always under the impression that the money would be delievered by the Russian money launderers/mobsters with whom Tony had originally placed it. Also the relationship between Tony and the Russian always seemed more than merely professional to me. I never really thought that Tony would rely on his crew alone to provide for his family in case of a tragedy. While one might raise the possibility of the Russians cheating Tony and keeping the mone instead of giving it to Carmela (be it as a lump sum or in installments), I would argue that this life insurance deal for mobsters is probably a significant portion of their operation which requires their customers to have an enormous amount of trust, making it unlikely for the Russians to be willing to cheat Carmela out of the money.
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** Have not watched the show in quite a while while, but I was always under the impression that the money would be delievered by the Russian money launderers/mobsters with whom Tony had originally placed it. Also Also, the relationship between Tony and the Russian always seemed more than merely professional to me. I never really thought that Tony would rely on his crew alone to provide for his family in case of a tragedy. While one might raise the possibility of the Russians cheating Tony and keeping the mone money instead of giving it to Carmela (be it as a lump sum or in installments), I would argue that this life insurance deal for mobsters is probably a significant portion of their operation which requires their customers to have an enormous amount of trust, making it unlikely for the Russians to be willing to cheat Carmela out of the money.
23rd Sep '15 2:42:59 AM TheREALmb
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** Plus Meadow is dating Patsy Parisi's son, so even though the match may not have the dynastic advantage for Patsy it once did, wouldn't he be looked down on by other mobsters if he failed to provide for his future daughter-in-law?
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** Plus Meadow is dating Patsy Parisi's son, so even though the match may not have the dynastic advantage for Patsy it once did, wouldn't he be looked down on by other mobsters if he failed to provide for his future daughter-in-law?daughter-in-law? ** Have not watched the show in quite a while but I was always under the impression that the money would be delievered by the Russian money launderers/mobsters with whom Tony had originally placed it. Also the relationship between Tony and the Russian always seemed more than merely professional to me. I never really thought that Tony would rely on his crew alone to provide for his family in case of a tragedy. While one might raise the possibility of the Russians cheating Tony and keeping the mone instead of giving it to Carmela (be it as a lump sum or in installments), I would argue that this life insurance deal for mobsters is probably a significant portion of their operation which requires their customers to have an enormous amount of trust, making it unlikely for the Russians to be willing to cheat Carmela out of the money.
21st Sep '15 2:32:36 PM JC96
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** After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. He knew sayi
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** After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. He knew sayisaying it then would be pointless let alone justify Carmela's rant even more
21st Sep '15 2:26:59 PM JC96
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** Also, remembering it was Livia, who told him about Tony's involement, he also got the idea that she manipulated him into Artie confronting Tony with the rifle in chances of committing the second and possibly successful assassination attempt on her son. * ChekhovsGun: The baby journals Livia never filled out. It bothered Carmella, as she was the one who brought them in the first placeand served as one of the main factors in her "rememberance" of her spiteful mother-in-law.
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** Also, remembering it was Livia, who told him about Tony's involement, involvement, he also got the idea that she manipulated him into Artie confronting Tony with the rifle in chances of committing the second and possibly successful assassination attempt on her son. * ChekhovsGun: The baby journals Livia never filled out. It bothered Carmella, as she was the one who brought them in the first placeand place and served as one of the main factors in her "rememberance" "remembrance" of her spiteful mother-in-law.
13th Jun '15 8:22:30 AM JC96
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* ChekhovsGun: The baby journals Livia never filled out. It bothered Carmella, as she was the one who brought them in the first placeand served as one of the main factors in her "rememberance" of her spiteful mother-in-law.
19th May '15 8:15:01 AM JC96
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* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved Artie from telling everyone that Tony burned down the original Vesuvio. ** After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. ** And with that piece of information, he gets the idea that the only reason Livia, who told him about Tony's involement, would
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* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved an drunk Artie from telling everyone that Tony burned down the original Vesuvio. ** After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. energies. He knew sayi ** And with that piece of information, he gets the idea that the only reason Also, remembering it was Livia, who told him about Tony's involement, would he also got the idea that she manipulated him into Artie confronting Tony with the rifle in chances of committing the second and possibly successful assassination attempt on her son.
19th May '15 8:08:33 AM JC96
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* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved Artie's life. ** Remeber, it was Livia who told
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* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved Artie's life. Artie from telling everyone that Tony burned down the original Vesuvio. ** Remeber, it was After hearing Carmela's verbal rampage about Livia that was supported by her father, Artie realizes that while he saw Livia as an harmless old woman, she was seen by everyone else as an mentally dysfunctional woman who was full of negative energies. ** And with that piece of information, he gets the idea that the only reason Livia, who told him about Tony's involement, would
19th May '15 7:48:41 AM JC96
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-->'''Artie''': To help me! You fuckin' bent psycho. You hear your uncle's gonna hurt my business by stagin' a hit in my place, and that's your solution? To burn it down for the insurance money! What kind of stupid, sick, twisted logic?
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-->'''Artie''': To help me! You fuckin' bent psycho. You hear your uncle's gonna hurt my business by stagin' a hit in my place, and that's your solution? To burn it down for the insurance money! What kind of stupid, sick, twisted logic? logic?

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* [[SpeakIllOfTheDead Carmela's scathing eulogy of Livia]] saved Artie's life. ** Remeber, it was Livia who told
12th May '15 3:54:26 PM JC96
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* When Artie confronts Tony with the rifle and accuses him of burning down his restaurant, he beautifully invokes GenreSavy at it's finest.
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* When When Artie confronts Tony with the rifle and accuses him of burning down his restaurant, he beautifully invokes GenreSavy GenreSavvy at it's finest.
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