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27th Aug '16 6:55:16 AM mcb01932
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* This didn't occur to me until days after I saw ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'': TrueLovesKiss is actually much NewerThanTheyThink; in the original "Literature/TheFrogPrince" FairyTale, the frog changed back when the disgusted princess threw him against the wall... similar to Tiana's and Charlotte's initial reactions of crushing it with a book. Excellent MythologyGag! ~@/{{Lale}}

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* This didn't occur to me until days after I saw ''Disney/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'': TrueLovesKiss is actually much NewerThanTheyThink; in the original "Literature/TheFrogPrince" FairyTale, the frog changed back when the disgusted princess threw him against the wall... similar to Tiana's and Charlotte's initial reactions of crushing it him with a book. Excellent MythologyGag! ~@/{{Lale}}
19th Apr '16 5:56:54 PM lalaTKG
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* Take a look at Tiana's Palace in all of it's incarnations. When Tiana first imagines it, it is of course in the gold art-deco style, and when [[spoiler:Facilier visualizes it for her in the climax]], it also is completely decorated in yellow and gold, symbolizing money, fortune and a life without love - the path Tiana would take if she hadn't [[spoiler:realized her dream would be incomplete without Naveen]]. Finally, however, when [[spoiler:the restaurant ''actually'' appears in full glory]], it is stylized very much like the bayou, with lily pad theming and light green lighting. Which would symbolize Tiana's journey toward [[spoiler:accepting love and family as a viable part of being a happy person and fulfilling your dreams]].

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* Take a look at Tiana's Palace in all of it's its incarnations. When Tiana first imagines it, it is of course in the gold art-deco style, and when [[spoiler:Facilier visualizes it for her in the climax]], it also is completely decorated in yellow and gold, symbolizing money, fortune and a life without love - the path Tiana would take if she hadn't [[spoiler:realized her dream would be incomplete without Naveen]]. Finally, however, when [[spoiler:the restaurant ''actually'' appears in full glory]], it is stylized very much like the bayou, with lily pad theming and light green lighting. Which would symbolize Tiana's journey toward [[spoiler:accepting love and family as a viable part of being a happy person and fulfilling your dreams]].



** Charlotte is quite literally the [[ShapedLikeItself walking reincarnation]] of a Loa, namely [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mademoiselle_Charlotte Mademoiselle]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Charlotte]]. The Other Wiki on Haitian Vodou regarding Loa deities says she is of European descent; is a symbol all white women and their mannerisms, is very formal, loves the [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench French language]], loves the color [[PrincessesPreferPink rose]] and only [[FriendToAllLivingThings helps those she fancies.]] [[TheWoobie Except Travis]]...



** Yes, Facilier is offering Lawrence a sinister deal. And it's not a pun: "sinister" actually comes from the use of the left hand.

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** Yes, Facilier * Charlotte is offering Lawrence a sinister deal. And it's not a pun: "sinister" actually comes from quite literally the use [[ShapedLikeItself walking reincarnation]] of a Loa, namely [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mademoiselle_Charlotte Mademoiselle]] [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Charlotte]]. The Other Wiki on Haitian Vodou regarding Loa deities says she is of European descent; is a symbol all white women and their mannerisms, is very formal, loves the left hand.[[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench French language]], loves the color [[PrincessesPreferPink rose]] and only [[FriendToAllLivingThings helps those she fancies.]] [[TheWoobie Except Travis]]...
22nd Nov '15 9:51:20 PM Nathanator
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*** There's [[OhCrapSmile a whole trope]] about this very circumstance.
6th Oct '15 5:07:18 PM Kennisaurus
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** When Facilier says he's royalty on his mother's side he probably meant that she was a voodoo queen. Probably not the kind of royalty Charlotte, or her father, would consider.
17th Aug '15 10:10:12 AM thegreathandler1
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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment. However, it does have a purpose as it does show that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans, which becomes important later.

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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment. However, it does have a purpose as it does show shows that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans, which becomes important later.
17th Aug '15 10:09:25 AM thegreathandler1
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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, but it does have a purpose as it does show that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans.

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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, but BigLippedAlligatorMoment. However, it does have a purpose as it does show that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans.
humans, which becomes important later.
17th Aug '15 10:07:49 AM thegreathandler1
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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, but it does have a purpose as it does show that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans in this universe.

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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, but it does have a purpose as it does show that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans in this universe.
humans.
17th Aug '15 10:07:07 AM thegreathandler1
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* The three frog-hunters scene seems to be just a BigLippedAlligatorMoment, but it does have a purpose as it does show that humans that were transformed into animals can speak to humans in this universe.



** If the film is set in the late 1920's, what will happen to Tiana's restaurant when the stock market crashes in 1929???

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** * If the film is set in the late 1920's, what will happen to Tiana's restaurant when the stock market crashes in 1929???



*** However, it might just due to cultural differences. Like cannibalism nowaday is meant as antropophagy, but originally it was actually a way to pay respect to the deads: it might look creepy to western culture, but it diesn't have to actually be creepy per sé.

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*** However, it might just due to cultural differences. Like cannibalism nowaday nowadays is meant as antropophagy, anthropology, but originally it was actually a way to pay respect to the deads: dead: it might look creepy to western culture, but it diesn't doesn't have to actually be creepy per sé.



* A major, most likely unintentional example that is, otherwise, a very well-hidden [[TheReveal reveal]]: look on the wall next to Facilier in the first few seconds of his VillainSong, and [[http://media.tumblr.com/cb3fd0cea345ec830f3dbb2706e8f28c/tumblr_inline_mpv0rcr66s1qz4rgp.png you might just notice]] [[WebSeries/MarbleHornets the Operator]] [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos symbol]] etched into it. ''Why the hell is that there?''

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* A major, most likely unintentional example that is, otherwise, a very well-hidden [[TheReveal reveal]]: look on the wall next to Facilier in the first few seconds of his VillainSong, and [[http://media.tumblr.com/cb3fd0cea345ec830f3dbb2706e8f28c/tumblr_inline_mpv0rcr66s1qz4rgp.png you might just notice]] [[WebSeries/MarbleHornets the Operator]] [[Franchise/TheSlenderManMythos symbol]] etched into it. ''Why the hell is that there?''



** This troper always assumed that there may have been some residual frog-transormation magic left in Naveen since he had JUST turned into a frog mere hours ago. The sort of 'voodoo dust' probably hadn't settled yet, so to speak, and Tiana just got caught up in an extension of Naveen's curse.

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** This troper always assumed that there may have been some residual frog-transormation frog-transformation magic left in Naveen since he had JUST turned into a frog mere hours ago. The sort of 'voodoo dust' probably hadn't settled yet, so to speak, and Tiana just got caught up in an extension of Naveen's curse.
10th Aug '15 7:40:55 PM Mantyf
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*** However, it might just due to cultural differences. Like cannibalism nowaday is meant as antropophagy, but originally it was actually a way to pay respect to the deads: it might look creepy to western culture, but it diesn't have to actually be creepy per sé.
10th Aug '15 7:11:46 PM Mantyf
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** Yes, Facilier is offering Lawrence a sinister deal. And it's not a pun: "sinister" actually comes from the use of the left hand.


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** Also, you know the whole want/need theme? Well, in " Friends on the Other Side" what does Facilier say to Naveen: "is the green, is the green, is the green you ''need''". And he is completely right: [[spoiler: what he needed was to be turned into a frog in order to sort out his priorities and find love, even if the trasformation is not even remotely what he wants.]]
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