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* While it might not be all that comforting to contemplate, when you read the original account in Literature/TheBible, does it ever occur to you to wonder why Jesus was quite dead by the end of the day? Roman crucifixion victims sometimes [[NightmareFuel took days to die]] since none of their major organs were damaged and the entire method was intended to maximize the victim's pain and suffering. This dramatization visually spells it out for you: more than a few who underwent the kind of scourging Jesus did never made it to the cross. After taking so much punishment, it's arguably a small miracle that Jesus lasted as long as he did!

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* While it might not be all that comforting to contemplate, when you read the original account in Literature/TheBible, does it ever occur to you to wonder why Jesus was quite dead by the end of the day? Roman crucifixion victims sometimes [[NightmareFuel took days to die]] since none of their major organs were damaged and the entire method was intended to maximize the victim's pain and suffering.suffering (this, incidentally, is where we get the word "excruciating" from). This dramatization visually spells it out for you: more than a few who underwent the kind of scourging Jesus did never made it to the cross. After taking so much punishment, it's arguably a small miracle that Jesus lasted as long as he did!
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** Most antisemites insist Jesus doesn't count as Jewish. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And let's leave it at that]].

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** Most antisemites insist Jesus doesn't count as Jewish. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And let's leave it at that]].
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* Jesus seems to suffer a dose of OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank... but when a faithful go to a Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican Mass, said faithful realized that it is not wine or "Jesus Juice", but had transubstantiated into the actual blood of Christ. Then the faithful suddenly realize that Gibson had actually placed one of the core dogma all over the film, in that the Mass is exactly the same sacrifice of his passion, and the blood of Christ is truly presented.

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* Jesus seems to suffer a dose of OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank... but when a faithful go goes to a Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican Mass, said faithful realized that it is not wine or "Jesus Juice", but had transubstantiated into the actual blood of Christ. Then the faithful suddenly realize that Gibson had actually placed one of the core dogma all over the film, in that the Mass is exactly the same sacrifice of his passion, and the blood of Christ is truly presented.
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** Which is pretty much how the Bible works. According to the Gospel, after Christ rose from the dead, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer in affirmative, Jesus instruct him what he should do.

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** Which is pretty much how the Bible works. According to the Gospel, after Christ rose from the dead, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer answers in affirmative, Jesus instruct instructs him what he should do.
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** Which is pretty much how the Bible work. According to the Gospel, after Christ rose from the dead, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer in affirmative, Jesus instruct him what he should do.

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** Which is pretty much how the Bible work.works. According to the Gospel, after Christ rose from the dead, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer in affirmative, Jesus instruct him what he should do.
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* Jesus seems to suffer a dose of OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank... but when a faithful go to a Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican Mass, said faithful realized that it is not wine or "Jesus Juice", but had transubstantiated into the actual blood of Christ. Then the faithful suddenly realize that Gibson had actually placed one of the core dogma all over the flim, in that the Mass is exactly the same sacrifice of his passion, and the blood of Christ is truly presented.

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* Jesus seems to suffer a dose of OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank... but when a faithful go to a Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican Mass, said faithful realized that it is not wine or "Jesus Juice", but had transubstantiated into the actual blood of Christ. Then the faithful suddenly realize that Gibson had actually placed one of the core dogma all over the flim, film, in that the Mass is exactly the same sacrifice of his passion, and the blood of Christ is truly presented.
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** Most antisemites insist Jesus doesn't count as Jewish. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And let's leave it at that]].

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** Most antisemites insist Jesus doesn't count as Jewish. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And let's leave it at that]].
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** Which is pretty much how the Bible work. According to the Gospel, when Christ rised, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer in affirmative, Jesus instruct him what he should do.

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** Which is pretty much how the Bible work. According to the Gospel, when after Christ rised, rose from the dead, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer in affirmative, Jesus instruct him what he should do.
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*The Torture Scene is long, isn't it? So how long would one take if they do 2 Our Fathers, 20 Hail Mary's, 2 Glory Be's, and 2 Fatima Prayers , along with reading about "Scourging at the pillar" and "Crowning with thorns" of the Sorrowful Mystery as well as introductory prayers and announcement of its fruit? Just as long.
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* Jesus seems to suffer a dose of OverdrawnAtTheBloodBank... but when a faithful go to a Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican Mass, said faithful realized that it is not wine or "Jesus Juice", but had transubstantiated into the actual blood of Christ. Then the faithful suddenly realize that Gibson had actually placed one of the core dogma all over the flim, in that the Mass is exactly the same sacrifice of his passion, and the blood of Christ is truly presented.
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*When Jesus made a table with a higher height, Mary expresses amazement at the height of the table he's making. Jesus explains that it was ordered by a wealthy man. Mary asks if the man likes to eat standing up. Jesus chuckles and explains the man wants to use "tall chairs". Mary laughs and says... "This will never catch on." Of course he knows it's gonna catch on: not only does he have omniscience, it had been said eating from the sitting position is tied to the rise of Christianity - and being the son of God, he has lots of wealth in heaven - he's dictating how we should eat!
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**Which is pretty much how the Bible work. According to the Gospel, when Christ rised, he once again asked Peter thrice whether he loves him. Each time Peter answer in affirmative, Jesus instruct him what he should do.
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* As Jesus predicted, Peter denies knowing him three times. Earlier, Jesus asked Peter if he loved him, three times, as a counterbalance.
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** Most antisemites insist Jesus doesn't count as Jewish.

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** Most antisemites insist Jesus doesn't count as Jewish. [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement And let's leave it at that]].
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* While it might not be all that comforting to contemplate, when you read the original account in TheBible, does it ever occur to you to wonder why Jesus was quite dead by the end of the day? Roman crucifixion victims sometimes [[NightmareFuel took days to die]] since none of their major organs were damaged and the entire method was intended to maximize the victim's pain and suffering. This dramatization visually spells it out for you: more than a few who underwent the kind of scourging Jesus did never made it to the cross. After taking so much punishment, it's arguably a small miracle that Jesus lasted as long as he did!

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* While it might not be all that comforting to contemplate, when you read the original account in TheBible, Literature/TheBible, does it ever occur to you to wonder why Jesus was quite dead by the end of the day? Roman crucifixion victims sometimes [[NightmareFuel took days to die]] since none of their major organs were damaged and the entire method was intended to maximize the victim's pain and suffering. This dramatization visually spells it out for you: more than a few who underwent the kind of scourging Jesus did never made it to the cross. After taking so much punishment, it's arguably a small miracle that Jesus lasted as long as he did!
** And normally crucifixion victims weren't flogged ''precisely'' because it would kill them too quickly. Note that the other two crucified with Jesus are mostly unwounded.

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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people thought MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was a deeply influential Jew who started a major religious movement. That means that Gibson got to show an influential Jew being tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and call it art.

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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people thought MelGibson Creator/MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was a deeply influential Jew who started a major religious movement. That means that Gibson got to show an influential Jew being tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and call it art.art.
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* While it might not be all that comforting to contemplate, when you read the original account in TheBible, does it ever occur to you to wonder why Jesus was quite dead by the end of the day? Roman crucifixion victims sometimes [[NightmareFuel took days to die]] since none of their major organs were damaged and the entire method was intended to maximize the victim's pain and suffering. This dramatization visually spells it out for you: more than a few who underwent the kind of scourging Jesus did never made it to the cross. After taking so much punishment, it's arguably a small miracle that Jesus lasted as long as he did!



* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people thought MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was a deeply influential Jew who started a major religious movement. That meanst that Gibson got to show an influential Jew being tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.
* Think of all the parents who bring their kids to this movie, thinking it will be even remotely kid-friendly...
** [[ScareEmStraight Worse is those who knew it wouldn't be.]]
*** That was me, BumblebeeMagnus. I was really young when it came out and I saw it before I saw ScoobyDoo and TheLordofTheRings.

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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people thought MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was a deeply influential Jew who started a major religious movement. That meanst means that Gibson got to show an influential Jew being tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.
* Think of all the parents who bring their kids to this movie, thinking it will be even remotely kid-friendly...
** [[ScareEmStraight Worse is those who knew it wouldn't be.]]
*** That was me, BumblebeeMagnus. I was really young when it came out and I saw it before I saw ScoobyDoo and TheLordofTheRings.
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** [[ScareEmStraight Worse is those who knew it wouldn't be.]]

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** [[ScareEmStraight Worse is those who knew it wouldn't be.]]]]
*** That was me, BumblebeeMagnus. I was really young when it came out and I saw it before I saw ScoobyDoo and TheLordofTheRings.
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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people though MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was a deeply influential Jew who started a major religious movement. That meanst that Gibson got to show an influential Jew being tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.

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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people though thought MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was a deeply influential Jew who started a major religious movement. That meanst that Gibson got to show an influential Jew being tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.
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* Think of all the parents who bring their kids to this movie, thinking it will be even remotely kid-friendly...

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* Think of all the parents who bring their kids to this movie, thinking it will be even remotely kid-friendly...kid-friendly...
** [[ScareEmStraight Worse is those who knew it wouldn't be.]]
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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people though MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was likely a rabbi who incidentally started a major religious movement. That meanst that Gibson got to show an influental Jew being torture horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.

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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people though MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was likely a rabbi deeply influential Jew who incidentally started a major religious movement. That meanst that Gibson got to show an influental influential Jew being torture tortured horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.
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* In regard to the various death penalties under Jewish law, not counting crucifixion (as the film claims the Jews ordered), hanging the corpse on a tree until sunset is part of the death penalty. Since the Jews had no authority to execute anyone while under Roman occupation, having the Romans crucify someone they regard as a blasphemer was the next best thing to being able to carry out the penalty themselves.

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* In regard to the various death penalties under Jewish law, not counting crucifixion (as the film claims the Jews ordered), hanging the corpse on a tree until sunset is part of the death penalty. Since the Jews had no authority to execute anyone while under Roman occupation, having the Romans crucify someone they regard as a blasphemer was the next best thing to being able to carry out the penalty themselves.themselves.

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* Meta example: When this movie was being made, a lot of people though MelGibson was being artsy and pretentious, with the resulting movie being regarded as anything from TorturePorn to a deep religious experience. Then came Gibson's anti-Semetic rant. Consider this: Regardless of one's personal beliefs, Jesus was likely a rabbi who incidentally started a major religious movement. That meanst that Gibson got to show an influental Jew being torture horribly over the course of three days movie-time and three hours real time and got to call it art.
* Think of all the parents who bring their kids to this movie, thinking it will be even remotely kid-friendly...

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* FridgeBrilliance: In regard to the various death penalties under Jewish law, not counting crucifixion (as the film claims the Jews ordered), hanging the corpse on a tree until sunset is part of the death penalty. Since the Jews had no authority to execute anyone while under Roman occupation, having the Romans crucify someone they regard as a blasphemer was the next best thing to being able to carry out the penalty themselves.

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* FridgeBrilliance: In regard to the various death penalties under Jewish law, not counting crucifixion (as the film claims the Jews ordered), hanging the corpse on a tree until sunset is part of the death penalty. Since the Jews had no authority to execute anyone while under Roman occupation, having the Romans crucify someone they regard as a blasphemer was the next best thing to being able to carry out the penalty themselves.

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