History Fridge / TheOrderOfTheStick

17th May '17 1:10:42 PM doomquokka
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* Why would Elan pick out a puppet as a Deity when he was trying to convince Roy he could be a Cleric, this troper thought for a while but then I realized it, Bards and Puppets have something in common, they entertain people. It would make logical sense why he would make up a deity relating to entertainment.

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* Why would Elan pick out a puppet as a Deity when he was trying to convince Roy he could be a Cleric, this troper thought for a while but then I realized it, Cleric? Bards and Puppets have something in common, they common: They entertain people. It would make logical sense why he would for him to make up a deity relating to entertainment.
30th Mar '17 2:12:48 PM BountyBeast
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* The fact that [[AbsurdPhobia dwarves are afraid of trees]] [[JustifiedTrope actually offers a pretty good explanation]] for why [[OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame so many dwarves]] [[AnAxeToGrind carry axes]] [[ElvesVsDwarves and hate elves]].
29th Mar '17 12:59:40 PM Bebop
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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on multiple levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But his build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard'' (which is itself a reference to the complicated multiclassing one had to do to become a bard in ''AD&D'' first edition). Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.

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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on multiple levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But his build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard'' (which is itself a reference to the complicated multiclassing one had to do to become a bard in ''AD&D'' first 1st edition). Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.
29th Mar '17 12:58:20 PM Bebop
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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on multiple levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But his build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard'' (which is itself a reference to the complicated multiclassing one had to do to become a bard in 'AD&D' first edition). Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.

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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on multiple levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But his build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard'' (which is itself a reference to the complicated multiclassing one had to do to become a bard in 'AD&D' ''AD&D'' first edition). Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.
29th Mar '17 12:57:44 PM Bebop
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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But his build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard.'' Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.

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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two multiple levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But his build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard.'' bard'' (which is itself a reference to the complicated multiclassing one had to do to become a bard in 'AD&D' first edition). Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.
29th Mar '17 12:24:50 PM Bebop
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** On a similar note, his final SkywardScream ("THIS IS A HORRIBLE ENDING") cements just how out of touch he is with the actual story. It is a climax rather than an ending, nor from a purely literary point of view a horrible event in the plot, as he was given a poetic end for a GlorySeeker: Being utterly ignored after he completely failed to steer the plot back onto his version of events.
** And the final nail in this coffin is when Roy and Belkar come back on deck -- Roy asks what happened, and Elan is utterly dismissive of Tarquin, referring to it as, "Nothing Haley and V couldn't handle." In an incredibly subtle way, Elan is going out of his way to deny his father any narrative role at this point besides "minor speedbump".

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** On a similar note, his final SkywardScream ("THIS IS A HORRIBLE TERRIBLE ENDING") cements just how out of touch he is with the actual story. It is a climax rather than an ending, nor from a purely literary point of view a horrible event in the plot, as he was given a poetic end for a GlorySeeker: Being utterly ignored after he completely failed to steer the plot back onto his version of events.
** And the final nail in this coffin is when Roy and Belkar come back on deck -- Roy asks what happened, and Elan is utterly dismissive of Tarquin, referring to it as, "Nothing Haley and V couldn't handle." In an incredibly subtle way, Elan is going out of his way to deny his father any narrative role at this point besides "minor speedbump".speed bump".
11th Feb '17 11:13:19 PM trixus
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** Also most of those are [[AntagonistAbilities fitting to fight the group]]. Rogue with a bow? Catch arrows and stab someone else with it. Sneak Attack or Hold Person? Grapple and will save. Wizard? Choke them with a whip. Invisibility? He has a ring of True Seeing. Tarquin built himself as his team hard counter, he negates the others attack while his team strike the killing blow, probably what Malack meant by learning attrition form Tarquin.

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** Also most of those are [[AntagonistAbilities fitting to fight the group]]. Rogue with a bow? Catch arrows and stab someone else with it. Sneak Attack or Hold Person? Grapple and will save. Wizard? Choke them with a whip. Invisibility? He has a ring of True Seeing. Tarquin built himself as his team hard counter, he negates the others attack attacks while his team teammates strike the killing blow, probably what Malack meant by learning attrition form from Tarquin.
7th Feb '17 11:23:43 PM trixus
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** Also most of those are [[AntagonistAbilities fitting to fight the group]]. Rogue with a bow? Catch arrows and stab someone else with it. Sneak Attack or Hold Person? Grapple and will save. Wizard? Choke them with a whip. Invisibility? He has a ring of True Seeing. Tarquin built himself as his team hard counter, he negates the others attack while his team strike the killing blow, probably what Malack meant by learning attrition form Tarquin.
6th Feb '17 8:10:21 AM Gosicrystal
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* Vaarsuvius is [[InsistentTerminology very insistent]] that shi did not [[DealWithTheDevil sell hir soul to fiends]], but that it was "[[NoExceptYes a fixed-term lease with an occupancy date yet to be determined]]". Turns out that description was even more accurate than V knew. Except that it's three separate fixed-term leases, with two of the options still available to be exercised in the future.

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* Vaarsuvius is [[InsistentTerminology very insistent]] that shi did not [[DealWithTheDevil sell hir soul to fiends]], but that it was "[[NoExceptYes "[[DistinctionWithoutADifference a fixed-term lease with an occupancy date yet to be determined]]". Turns out that description was even more accurate than V knew. Except that it's three separate fixed-term leases, with two of the options still available to be exercised in the future.
13th Nov '16 11:33:21 PM Discar
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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But as explained by someone who understands ''D&D'' better than I do -- his skillsets mean he's essentially ''a glorified bard.'' Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.

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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But as explained by someone who understands ''D&D'' better than I do -- his skillsets mean build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard.'' Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.



* Jones the lawyer keeps Rodriguez around [[NeverMyFault so that Rodriguez can absorb all of his losses.]] This essentially means that Jones is ensuring that Rodriguez will never be able to work for anyone else again in the field of law just so that he always has a scapegoat for his own incompetence. The giant may be wrong about Jones being LawfulNeutral because that makes him come across as LawfulEvil.
** Conversely, it's possible Rodriguez's record wasn't that good to begin with, which makes the fact that he can work as a lawyer at all kinda dubious, but would imply a slightly less heartless story behind them. Slightly.

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* Jones the lawyer keeps Rodriguez around [[NeverMyFault so that Rodriguez can absorb all of his losses.]] This essentially means that Jones is ensuring that Rodriguez will never be able to work for anyone else again in the field of law just so that he always has a scapegoat for his own incompetence. The giant may be wrong about Jones being LawfulNeutral because that makes him come across as LawfulEvil.
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LawfulEvil. Conversely, it's possible Rodriguez's record wasn't that good to begin with, which makes the fact that he can work as a lawyer at all kinda dubious, but would imply a slightly less heartless story behind them. Slightly.
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