History Fridge / TheOrderOfTheStick

13th Nov '16 11:33:21 PM Discar
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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But as explained by someone who understands ''D&D'' better than I do -- his skillsets mean he's essentially ''a glorified bard.'' Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.

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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But as explained by someone who understands ''D&D'' better than I do -- his skillsets mean build means he's essentially ''a glorified bard.'' Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.



* Jones the lawyer keeps Rodriguez around [[NeverMyFault so that Rodriguez can absorb all of his losses.]] This essentially means that Jones is ensuring that Rodriguez will never be able to work for anyone else again in the field of law just so that he always has a scapegoat for his own incompetence. The giant may be wrong about Jones being LawfulNeutral because that makes him come across as LawfulEvil.
** Conversely, it's possible Rodriguez's record wasn't that good to begin with, which makes the fact that he can work as a lawyer at all kinda dubious, but would imply a slightly less heartless story behind them. Slightly.

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* Jones the lawyer keeps Rodriguez around [[NeverMyFault so that Rodriguez can absorb all of his losses.]] This essentially means that Jones is ensuring that Rodriguez will never be able to work for anyone else again in the field of law just so that he always has a scapegoat for his own incompetence. The giant may be wrong about Jones being LawfulNeutral because that makes him come across as LawfulEvil.
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LawfulEvil. Conversely, it's possible Rodriguez's record wasn't that good to begin with, which makes the fact that he can work as a lawyer at all kinda dubious, but would imply a slightly less heartless story behind them. Slightly.
14th Sep '16 11:58:10 AM Twoeyesshort
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* Serini's Gate/Kraagor's Tomb/Monster Hallow is so effective because it incorporates elements of all the others' propositions on how to defend the gates. It's pretty fitting that the team's [[TheHeart Heart]] would be the one to pull AllYourPowersCombined on her defenses.
** Girard/Illusion and Misdirection: There are hundreds, maybe even ''thousands'', of doors in Kraagor's tomb, meaning that if any of them actually house the gate, all the rest of them are diversions. Especially tricky if ''none'' of them hide the gate, because the only way anybody would know would be if each and every door was meticulously searched (and if they survived that, we're looking at a PhysicalGod, so they'd be more than capable of screwing over/destroying the world without the aid of the gates anyway).
** Kim Soon/Honor: Serini's gate doubles as a memorial for Kraagor, and as such, she's honoring the dead.
** Dorukan/Arcane Power: Redcloak makes mention of the tomb being built in such a manner as to prevent someone like Xykon from performing a DungeonBypass on it, which requires some degree of arcane knowledge. Additionally, the tomb more than likely contains monsters with spells and spell-like abilities, and all those monsters have to come from ''some'' where, so if they're not repopulating naturally, magic's undoubtedly involved.
** Lyrian/Nature: Again, the monsters have to come from somewhere, and it's possible Serini's stock is replaced simply by allowing them to breed. If not that, there's the location of the tomb to consider, which is pretty well-protected as a result of general winter.
** Kraagor/Might: About as obvious as it gets, really. Kick in the door (any door), kill the monsters, get the loot.
1st Aug '16 8:26:08 PM Twoeyesshort
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** Double brilliance. The wizard that called him that was there to give V a divorce notice from his/her/its/whatever's mate, who knew V had made such a bargain. They likely told said wizard about it in the process, as a means of getting V to flip out.
29th Jul '16 4:14:17 AM Morgenthaler
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* Tarquin is DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and flaunts this. He knows he's in a story, and wants to stick to that story as much as possible. If events unfold that don't follow the story, he will break down. However, his definition of "following the story" usually involves him and his immediate relatives taking center stage, and the other characters being forgotten about. If the story focuses on somebody else, he will unceremoniously kill them, and will stubbornly work his way into the story even if it no longer involves him. Tarquin is a ''railroading Game Master''. Just listen to some of his quotes listed in his entry under ControlFreak:

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* Tarquin is DangerouslyGenreSavvy, GenreSavvy, and flaunts this. He knows he's in a story, and wants to stick to that story as much as possible. If events unfold that don't follow the story, he will break down. However, his definition of "following the story" usually involves him and his immediate relatives taking center stage, and the other characters being forgotten about. If the story focuses on somebody else, he will unceremoniously kill them, and will stubbornly work his way into the story even if it no longer involves him. Tarquin is a ''railroading Game Master''. Just listen to some of his quotes listed in his entry under ControlFreak:
28th Jul '16 2:57:34 PM Twoeyesshort
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** Conversely, it's possible Rodriguez's record wasn't that good to begin with, which makes the fact that he can work as a lawyer at all kinda dubious, but would imply a slightly less heartless story behind them. Slightly.
23rd Jul '16 9:35:36 AM DannWoolf
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* if you think about it, had on [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0137.html this page]] elan managed to get banjo raised to godhood then [[spoiler: banjo could have broken the tie as elan suggested on [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1027.html this page]] and they wouldn have to race to stop Durkon.]]
7th Jul '16 5:32:48 PM VajraYaksa
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** How does he knows that? Elan mentions his mothers' [[spoiler:collection of Julio's pictures]]. Do you see his expressions? He knows.
24th Jun '16 8:22:46 PM Discar
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* Elan's seduction of Sabine: Remember that she probably sleeps with Nale very often. Elan and Nale are twins. That's probably the reason why he managed to seduce her so easily.
** Also an [[InvertedeTrope Inversion]] of AllGirlsWantBadBoys; since Sabine is [[HornyDevils A Succubus]], bad boys aren't anything new for her, '''good''' boys are the ForbiddenFruit from her perspective.

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* Elan's seduction of Sabine: Remember that she probably sleeps with Nale very often. Elan and Nale are twins. That's probably the reason why he managed to seduce her so easily.
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easily. Also an [[InvertedeTrope [[InvertedTrope Inversion]] of AllGirlsWantBadBoys; since Sabine is [[HornyDevils A Succubus]], bad boys aren't anything new for her, '''good''' boys are the ForbiddenFruit from her perspective.



** His argument was not necessarily that he himself is LawfulNeutral, but that a [[EverybodyHatesHades god of death]] is not necessarily a GodOfEvil and more likely to be LawfulNeutral. Malack was talking about the alignment of his god Nergal, not himself. It's entirely possible within the rules for a LawfulNeutral god to have LawfulEvil worshippers or clerics. And manipulating the perceptions of others while avoiding technically lying by use of ExactWords is a fitting act for a LawfulEvil villain.



* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But as explained by someone who understands ''D&D'' better than I do -- his skillsets mean he's essentially ''a glorified bard.''
** Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.

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* Nale's overly-complicated multiclass setup is a joke that works on two levels. On the surface, it just goes along with his love for complexity. But as explained by someone who understands ''D&D'' better than I do -- his skillsets mean he's essentially ''a glorified bard.''
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'' Also, the reason he has to use that complicated setup is because he's LawfulEvil, and Bards are not allowed to be Lawful.



* Many in the audience wondered how Tarquin could consider himself to be AboveGoodAndEvil despite being a CardCarryingVillain. But he considers villains to always be necessary for a story to exist. Combine his being TheSociopath with being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, and it becomes clear that he operates on BlueAndOrangeMorality. He considers the structure of a story more important than who that structure affects.
** Except that, as someone on the forums pointed out, Tarquin didn't ''have'' to choose to be a villain, even on his own terms. He could just as easily have become the charismatic leader who unites the war-torn realm and ushers in an age of peace and prosperity. That's just as valid a storyline and narrative role as the one he chose to invoke, and Tarquin has to know this. He became a villain because he wanted to be a villain, not because he had to be one.



* Think about all the stupid things Elan has done and how much trouble they have caused. Now look at the explanation for why he is so dumb in [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0050.html this comic]]. Nale caused Elan to be the way he is. Assume that Elan would have high intelligence like both of his parents had Nale not prevented it. We already know Elan has high charisma. We can assume he also has high wisdom, from his [[GenreSavvy genre savviness]] and his [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0670.html practical use of it]] while going against his bardic sensibilities to avert the RuleOfDrama. His strength and dexterity, while [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0390.html not as high as his charisma]], are probably in the 12-13 range. His constitution can't be too bad on account of his not dying yet. So if not for Nale, Elan would have been the good-guy equivalent of Tarquin.
** Or he could have been another '''bad'''-guy equivalent of Tarquin, and probably a more effective one than Nale.
24th Jun '16 4:29:52 PM MrHatAndCloak
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* The reason why Belkar has such poor Spot and Listen checks is because he has a poor Wisdom score, and barely any skill points, the latter of which is joked about [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html]] in the very first strip.

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* The reason why Belkar has such poor Spot and Listen checks is because he has a poor Wisdom score, and barely any skill points, the latter of which is joked about in the [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html]] in the html very first strip.strip]].
24th Jun '16 4:24:45 PM MrHatAndCloak
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* The reason why Belkar has such poor Spot and Listen checks is because he has a poor Wisdom score, and barely any skill points, the latter of which is joked about [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html]] in the very first strip.
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