History Fridge / TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask

14th Mar '16 6:24:41 PM Kawaii_Kailynn
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*The last few notes of the theme that plays in any of the four regions before you beat the temple sound a lot like Majora/Skull Kid's theme...
21st Feb '16 8:47:48 AM Discar
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** As a side note, those giant eyeballs look just like the eyes on Majora's Mask. It gives the four bosses a shared visual motif and strengthens their connection with their creator, Majora, as well as further unifying the game's aesthetics.

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** As a side note, those * Those giant eyeballs look just like the eyes on Majora's Mask. It gives the four bosses a shared visual motif and strengthens their connection with their creator, Majora, as well as further unifying the game's aesthetics.
21st Feb '16 8:11:15 AM PeabodySam
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* An extension of the earlier Fridge Brilliance entry regarding duality. Everyone complains that the 3DS remake is "too colorful" and "too cartoony", while ''Majora's Mask'' was supposed to be a dark-looking game. Except... it never was. For years, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]'' was hailed as the darkest ''Zelda'' title, largely due to its artstyle, while ''Majora's Mask'' was considered that weird surreal game with all the bright colors. It was only [[VindicatedByHistory years later]] that fans were able to look back at ''Majora's Mask'' and realize that, beneath its colorful exterior, it was actually a much darker game than ''Twilight Princess''. It was never meant to be visually dark, but instead thematically dark. The aesthetics served as a ''mask'' that hid the game's true nature, giving it the outward appearance of a colorful cartoon when in actuality it's the darkest and most mature entry of the ''Zelda'' franchise. The 3DS version is only further enhancing that mask, that deliberate dissonance between appearance and truth.
* Continuing the discussion of masks and the 3DS version, another major complaint about the remake is that Odolwa, Goht, Gyorg, and Twinmold all have [[GoForTheEye giant eye weakpoints]] that are [[EyesDoNotBelongThere not where eyes normally are]]. You often hear fans saying, "Why does Gyorg have an eye in his mouth? That's so stupid and makes no sense!" But wait... think about it for a second. Those four bosses are described in their BossSubtitles as wearing masks. With Odolwa, it's rather obvious, but if you didn't know they were masked, you would just assume that Goht, Gyorg, and Twinmold's faces were real. However, they're not real; those Boss Remains you collect are merely masks, and this is further evidenced by the Moon Children wearing these remains as masks. So, for example, if that's not really Gyorg's real face, then that's likely not his real mouth, either. Gyorg doesn't have an eyeball caught in his throat; what you're seeing is Gyorg's real eye looking through the mask he's wearing. What does Gyorg's real face look like? [[TheFaceless Who knows?]] But the face you see is just a mask, while the giant eyeball looking through the mask's mouth is his real eye. It's all part of the game's theme of masks.
** As a side note, those giant eyeballs look just like the eyes on Majora's Mask. It gives the four bosses a shared visual motif and strengthens their connection with their creator, Majora, as well as further unifying the game's aesthetics.
20th Feb '16 6:53:48 PM Slammurai
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* When you first meet the Happy Mask Salesman before you exit the clock tower, he tells you to recover the thing that was stolen from you (the ocarina) and tells you that with your power, you would retrieve it right away. It then takes you three days to get it back, much longer than "right away", but once you DO get it back, time resets to just after you exit the clock tower, only this time you have the ocarina. To you it was three days, but to the Salesman you left the tower and immediately walked right back in with the ocarina. From his perspective, you got the ocarina back "right away".
9th Jan '16 2:41:17 AM SLthePyro
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* WordOfGod states that the Fierce Deity's Mask "contains the souls of everyone in Termina". But what exactly does this mean? Well, let's look at it from a GodsNeedPrayerBadly standpoint: the mask most likely gets its power from the hearts of the people. At the start of the game, Termina is a CrapsackWorld where the people are desperately hanging onto the few scraps of hope they have left, which means the Fierce Deity would either be very weak or, going by its description when you acquire it, a terrible and corrupting dark power possibly even worse than Majora itself. But by the time you ''do'' get it, Link has gone around Termina helping everyone he could, and therefore the Fierce Deity becomes a HopeBringer that turns everyone's restored hopes and dreams in to a power that can protect the world.
** Which begs another question: why would Majora have the Fierce Deity's Mask in the first place, let alone give it to Link to use against itself? Simply put, Majora is a sadistic monster. It spent an undisclosed amount of time turning Termina into a hellhole before Link even showed up, robbing the people of their hopes and dreams and threatening to cap it off with TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt while the people could to nothing but run and/or despair. The only good reason it would give Link the mask is to instill the same despair into him, to make him fight to save the dying world only to show him that he ''couldn't''. Moreover, from its own [[InsaneTrollLogic childish, warped logic]], Majora believes it's the ''good guy'' in the story because it thinks there's no way it can fail, and since evil always loses in the end, Link must be the bad guy. When Majora realizes it's actually ''losing'' the final battle, [[EvilCannotComprehendGood it can't figure out why]] and proceeds to ''flip the fuck out'' before Link puts it down for good, and using the Fierce Deity's mask with all of Termina hoping for a happy ending punctuates it with a CurbStompBattle.
7th Jan '16 9:46:17 PM SilenceInTheLibrary
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* Why is Majora's Mask/Incarnation/Wrath such a nightmare as a normal Link, but so easy as Fierce Deity? Recall the earlier fridge that Majora is a child playing games and throwing tantrums. Recall also that Fierce Deity Mask's power doesn't just transform Link, it makes him into the only sort of form of "Adult Link" we see in Majora's Mask. If Majora is a child, then Link is another child trying to fight back against a sadistic bully. As Fierce Deity though, you're the adult, you're in charge, and Majora is going to sit its ass down and accept defeat.
22nd Nov '15 1:13:00 AM Kimarous
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*** ...Which [[UnfortunateImplications speaks volumes]] about the Islamic extremists [[{{Understatement}} causing trouble]] in RealLife *[=coughISIScough=][[UsefulNotes/TheArabIsraeliWar Palestine]]cough*, if you think about it...
19th Nov '15 5:42:36 PM Luigifan
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** Why are Koume and Kotake good guys in this game when they were evil in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]''? Maybe they became more evil and power hungry when they raised Ganondorf, realizing how much power they had over raising the only male of the Gerudo generation. Since Ganondorf doesn't have a counterpart in Termina, it's possible that they never gave in to their power lusts?
** When they died, they went to Heaven, or "UP", which might suggest that they weren't truly evil to begin with. Their Terminian selves might reflect on that.
** Alternatively, they were only evil in ''Ocarina of Time'' because they were born in a harsh desert, being raised by the ocean would have been considerably more pleasant.

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** Why are Koume and Kotake good guys in this game when they were evil in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]''? Maybe they became more evil and power hungry power-hungry when they raised Ganondorf, realizing how much power they had over from raising the only male of the Gerudo generation. Since Ganondorf doesn't have a counterpart in Termina, it's possible that they never gave in to their power lusts?
** When they died, they went ''up'' -- as in, to Heaven, or "UP", Heaven -- which might suggest that they weren't truly evil to begin with. Their Terminian selves might reflect on that.
** Alternatively, they were only evil in ''Ocarina of Time'' because they were born in a harsh desert, desert; being raised by the ocean would have been considerably more pleasant.pleasant.
*** ...Which [[UnfortunateImplications speaks volumes]] about the Islamic extremists [[{{Understatement}} causing trouble]] in RealLife *[=coughISIScough=][[UsefulNotes/TheArabIsraeliWar Palestine]]cough*, if you think about it...



* The Skull Kid and the Mask are an excellent villain. Both of them are part of a whole - not that Skull Kid is even conscious of this fact. He's mad with power, but of course that power isn't his. Majora may be the wielder of the power, but he's unable to direct it in any way that the Skull Kid wouldn't like. The end result, the Skull Kid wants to cause some mischief, Majora wants to destroy as much as he can. The combination leads to the multitude of problems you see around the world, and the clear impending destruction of the entire planet. Add to all of this the miniature FridgeLogic scenes you find at multiple points throughout the game, and you realise just how truly twisted and dangerous that duo is.

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* The Skull Kid and the Mask are an excellent villain. Both of them are part of a whole - -- not that Skull Kid is even conscious of this fact. He's mad with power, but of course that power isn't his. Majora may be the wielder of the power, but he's unable to direct it in any way that the Skull Kid wouldn't like. The end result, the Skull Kid wants to cause some mischief, Majora wants to destroy as much as he can. The combination leads to the multitude of problems you see around the world, and the clear impending destruction of the entire planet. Add to all of this the miniature FridgeLogic scenes you find at multiple points throughout the game, and you realise realize just how truly twisted and dangerous that duo is.



** Why did the Skull Kid turn Kafei into a child? Kafei has someone who loves him, but the Skull Kid thinks that he is unloved since the Four Giants left. He's acting like a jealous, hurt kid; bullying someone who has what he wants but can't take. It's even more evident in the manga during the fight between Link and the Skull Kid by having Kafei there as well and having his and Anju's reunion there. When they hug, the Skull Kid yells at them not to do that in front of him which is what triggers his breakdown instead of the arrival of the Giants.

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** Why did the Skull Kid turn Kafei into a child? Kafei has someone who loves him, but the Skull Kid thinks that he is unloved since the Four Giants left. He's acting like a jealous, hurt kid; bullying someone who has what he wants but can't take. It's even more evident in the manga during the fight between Link and the Skull Kid by having Kafei there as well and having his and Anju's reunion there. When they hug, the Skull Kid yells at them not to do that in front of him him, which is what triggers his breakdown instead of the arrival of the Giants.



* Shiro the invisible knight may seem like a random character with no real Hylian equivalent who was ignored by most of the world... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWNGI87ptq4 until you become aware of Hyrule's oft missed knight almost no one ever noticed.]]
* Speaking of the invisible knight, he must have been crippled somehow and, thus, needed the mask to hide from the kamekazi rodents wandering about. Of course, after being healed, he would become capable of defending himself and, thus, would no longer need the mask. It makes perfect sense.
* We all know that ''Majora's Mask'' was set on a sort of parallel world to the Hyrule we knew of in ''Ocarina of Time'', which is why there are tons of characters in Termina who look exactly like the people in Hyrule (never mind the ones with slight changes like Ruto/Lulu or the Gerudo bandits/pirates because they're still generally the same thing). Some characters, however, are either portrayed as [[HeelFaceTurn the polar opposite of what they were in Ocarina]] (such as Twinrova) or had whatever habit they're known for bumped up several notches when compared to their role in Hyrule (such as Sakon, who was a petty thief NPC in Hyrule, but now [[TookALevelInBadass a badass thief that not only is partially responsible for screwing over people like bomb granny and Kafei but also serves as one of the extremely rare examples Link can kill a person whom was not intended to be a mook]]). Of all the characters seen in the game, the only ones that remain the same in Termina as they did in Hyrule is the Skull Kid (that is more evident in the manga than the game, to be honest) and ''The Happy Mask Salesman''. As the point above said, the Happy Mask Salesman lives on the fact he sells masks (fake faces), and nearly everything and everyone you encounter otherwise either act completely different from what they were before or ''look'' different than they were (even if it's something as simple as new clothes, new haircuts or a [[PaletteSwap new style/color]]. Suppose Termina had served even more as a look into the mind of the Happy Mask Salesman (where everyone either showed their true faces or took on a much different look/persona under a "mask") than simply a neighboring kingdom that had secretly and mysteriously held people who look like resident Hylians?

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* Shiro the invisible knight may seem like a random character with no real Hylian equivalent who was ignored by most of the world... [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWNGI87ptq4 until you become aware of Hyrule's oft missed often-missed knight that almost no one ever noticed.]]
* Speaking of the invisible knight, he must have been crippled somehow and, thus, needed the mask to hide from the kamekazi rodents kamikaze rodents[=/=]Gerudo pirates wandering about. Of course, after being healed, he would become capable of defending himself and, thus, would no longer need the mask. It makes perfect sense.
* We all know that ''Majora's Mask'' was set on in a sort of parallel world to the Hyrule we knew of in ''Ocarina of Time'', which is why there are tons of characters in Termina who look exactly like the people in Hyrule (never mind the ones with slight changes changes, like Ruto/Lulu or the Gerudo bandits/pirates bandits/pirates, because they're still generally the same thing). Some characters, however, are either portrayed as [[HeelFaceTurn the polar opposite of what they were in Ocarina]] (such as Twinrova) or had whatever habit they're known for bumped up several notches when compared to their role in Hyrule (such as Sakon, who was a petty thief NPC in Hyrule, but is now [[TookALevelInBadass a badass thief that who is not only is partially responsible for screwing over people like bomb granny and Kafei Kafei]], but also serves as one of the extremely rare examples where [[KickTheSonOfABitch Link can kill a person whom who was not intended to be a mook]]). Of all the characters seen in the game, the only ones that remain the same in Termina as they did in Hyrule is are the Skull Kid (that is more evident in the manga than the game, to be honest) and ''The Happy Mask Salesman''. As the point above said, the Happy Mask Salesman lives on the fact he sells masks (fake faces), and nearly everything and everyone you encounter otherwise either act completely different from what they were before or ''look'' different than they were (even if it's something as simple as new clothes, new haircuts haircuts, or a [[PaletteSwap new style/color]]. Suppose Termina had served even more as a look into the mind of the Happy Mask Salesman (where everyone either showed their true faces or took on a much different look/persona under a "mask") than simply a neighboring kingdom that had secretly and mysteriously held people who look like resident Hylians?



* The Skull Kid's plan to destroy Termina is just a child's tantrum gone horribly wrong. The Skull Kid wants to see his friends again, and the only thing he can think of is to create a crisis so that the giants will have to emerge as protectors again. However, as Majora's Mask slowly consumes him it sabotages his plans by imprisoning the four giants so that the world will actually be destroyed instead. The comment taunting Link to summon the giants is a sign of the mask's cocky assurance that he's completely in control and nothing can go wrong. When Link actually calls the giants, however, their cries suddenly remind the Skull Kid why he brought the moon down in the first place, and he screams as he finally realizes what he's done.

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* The Skull Kid's plan to destroy Termina is just a child's tantrum gone horribly wrong. The Skull Kid wants to see his friends again, and the only thing he can think of is to create a crisis so that the giants will have to emerge as protectors again. However, as Majora's Mask slowly consumes him him, it sabotages his plans by imprisoning the four giants so that the world will actually be destroyed instead. The comment taunting Link to summon the giants is a sign of the mask's cocky assurance that he's it's completely in control and nothing can go wrong. When Link actually calls the giants, however, their cries suddenly remind the Skull Kid why he brought the moon down in the first place, and he screams as [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he finally realizes what he's done.done]].



* Navi was given to Link as a guide, but he`s destined to be a hero. He doesn't need any more than one guide. Skull Kid has two fairies, cause he needs more guidance. Navi resembles "navigate", what a guide does. Tatl and Tael (Skull Kid's fairies) [[MindScrew sound like "tattletale"]], which is one way a child can spread mischief. Tatl (or "tattle") is short form for giving information to an adult while trying to get someone in trouble, like how Tatl tells you monster's weaknesses.

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* Navi was given to Link as a guide, but he`s destined to be a hero. He doesn't need any more than one guide. Skull Kid has two fairies, cause 'cause he needs more guidance. Navi resembles "navigate", what a guide does. Tatl and Tael (Skull Kid's fairies) [[MindScrew sound like "tattletale"]], which is one way a child can spread mischief. Tatl (or "tattle") is short form for giving information to an adult while trying to get someone in trouble, like how Tatl tells you monster's monsters' weaknesses.



* At first, the Curiosity Shop owner seems like a nice, normal merchant, but after a while you realize he's a [[spoiler: buyer and seller of stolen goods. He sells the Bomb Bag that Sakon stole and says, "This is just between us, but this is actually the Bomb Shop's". Also, he describes some items by saying, "At this price, this one's a ''steal''!"]] It really gets bad when you realize that he's willing to [[spoiler: buy Zora Eggs]] from you, essentially [[spoiler: putting infants of a sentient humanoid species on the black market.]] Of course, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential the player would have to also be pretty evil to go along with that in the first place]], but even so.

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* At first, the Curiosity Shop owner seems like a nice, normal merchant, but after a while while, you realize he's a [[spoiler: buyer [[spoiler:buyer and seller of stolen goods. He sells the Bomb Bag that Sakon stole and says, "This is just between us, but this is actually the Bomb Shop's". Also, he describes some items by saying, "At this price, this one's a ''steal''!"]] It really gets bad when you realize that he's willing to [[spoiler: buy [[spoiler:buy Zora Eggs]] from you, essentially [[spoiler: putting [[spoiler:putting infants of a sentient humanoid species on the black market.]] Of course, [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential the player would have to also be pretty evil to go along with that in the first place]], but even so.



* The Skull Kid goes from an annoying but mostly harmless {{troll}}/prankster to a dangerous monster who [[ColonyDrop calls down the Moon to destroy Termina]] just by wearing a mask. OK, [[spoiler: so it's really the mask calling down the Moon, just using the Skull Kid as a host]]. But why the Moon? Remember the Moon's Tear cutscene, and what he did after the Tear dropped: he turned around, and slapped his rear end in your direction. Skull Kid's just a prankster and an overall jackass at worst, he wouldn't want to destroy the world himself, but he let himself be used by a force of evil just for his chance to '''''[[{{Pun}} moon]]''''' [[{{Pun}} the world]] that rejected him. And the force of evil in question did what every force of evil does when you [[DealWithTheDevil sell it your soul for a favor]]: [[LiteralGenie made truth from your]] ExactWords [[JackassGenie in a way you didn't intend]].
* The Moon's Tear. It feels so out of place even though it has importance in the beginning of the game. But if you think about it, the moon has an evil demented face and is on collision with Termina because of the mask, so the Moon Tear is an actual tear shed by the moon in sorrow over the horrible action it is going to perform while it is under the control of Majora's Mask.

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* The Skull Kid goes from an annoying but mostly harmless {{troll}}/prankster to a dangerous monster who [[ColonyDrop calls down the Moon to destroy Termina]] just by wearing a mask. OK, [[spoiler: so [[spoiler:so it's really the mask calling down the Moon, just using the Skull Kid as a host]]. But why the Moon? Remember the Moon's Tear cutscene, and what he did after the Tear dropped: he turned around, and slapped his rear end in your direction. Skull Kid's just a prankster and an overall jackass at worst, worst; he wouldn't want to destroy the world himself, but he let himself be used by a force of evil just for his chance to '''''[[{{Pun}} moon]]''''' [[{{Pun}} the world]] that rejected him. And the force of evil in question did [[EvilIsNotAToy what every force of evil does does]] when you [[DealWithTheDevil sell it your soul for a favor]]: [[LiteralGenie made truth from your]] ExactWords [[JackassGenie in a way you didn't intend]].
* The Moon's Tear. It feels so out of place even though it has importance in the beginning of the game. But if you think about it, the moon has an evil demented face and is on a collision course with Termina because of the mask, so the Moon Tear is an actual tear shed by the moon in sorrow over the horrible action it is going to perform while it is under the control of Majora's Mask.



* It was once pointed out to me that ''Majora's Mask'' is not merely a parallel of ''Ocarina of Time'' but an inversion - in ''Ocarina of Time'', the problem is human (Ganondorf steals the Triforce) and the solution is divine (the hero rises to the call). In ''Majora's Mask'', the problem is divine (the gods have either abandoned or cannot save the world) and the solution is human (Link intervenes).
* ''Majora's Mask'' posits that everything, including people, exists in a state of duality - the superficial image and the true underlying aspect. A green and thriving swamp filled with poison water. Holy temples void of divine presence. A carnival of lights and a dark, falling moon. People going about their day, smiling and courteous, only to be found later curled up in laundry pools or bar seats, crying out their unhappiness. But this duality is a natural, if not necessary, aspect of life - because if the Skull Kid had even the barest inkling of what Link really was, would he have dared challenge him? Who else could save a world of masks and illusions than a hero who hides behind the face of a boy? This enforces the fact that masks aren't just a central gameplay mechanic, but a central motif of the story. There's always another face behind a mask.

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* It was once pointed out to me that ''Majora's Mask'' is not merely a parallel of ''Ocarina of Time'' Time'', but an inversion - -- in ''Ocarina of Time'', the problem is human (Ganondorf steals the Triforce) and the solution is divine (the hero rises to the call). In ''Majora's Mask'', the problem is divine (the gods have either abandoned or cannot save the world) and the solution is human (Link intervenes).
* ''Majora's Mask'' posits that everything, including people, exists in a state of duality - -- the superficial image and the true underlying aspect. A green and thriving swamp filled with poison water. Holy temples void of divine presence. A carnival of lights and a dark, falling moon. People going about their day, smiling and courteous, only to be found later curled up in laundry pools or bar seats, crying out their unhappiness. But this duality is a natural, if not necessary, aspect of life - -- because if the Skull Kid had even the barest inkling of what Link really was, would he have dared challenge him? Who else could save a world of masks and illusions than a hero who hides behind the face of a boy? This enforces the fact that masks aren't just a central gameplay mechanic, but a central motif of the story. There's always another face behind a mask.



* When you heal Darmani and Mikau's souls you see a DyingDream. Darmani's is a bunch of Gorons praising him as a hero. Mikau's is the Indigo-Go's playing and he and Lulu walking toward them. When you beat the temple in their respective areas, you can talk to certain people to get a bonus scene. The one for the mountain involves... the Gorons praising Link (in the form of Darmani) as a hero. The one for the ocean is... the Indigo-Go's playing with Link (as Mikau). Not only did Link heal their souls, he also managed to fulfill their DyingDream for them.

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* When you heal Darmani and Mikau's souls souls, you see a DyingDream. Darmani's is a bunch of Gorons praising him as a hero. Mikau's is the Indigo-Go's playing and he and Lulu walking toward them. When you beat the temple in their respective areas, you can talk to certain people to get a bonus scene. The one for the mountain involves... the Gorons praising Link (in the form of Darmani) as a hero. The one for the ocean is... the Indigo-Go's playing with Link (as Mikau). Not only did Link heal their souls, he also managed to fulfill their DyingDream for them.



* It is fairly common knowledge that the Chateau Romani from the ranch has properties similar to alcohol as children are not allowed in the bar, nor are they allowed to drink it. On day three, provided you saved Romani from the aliens, you will find Cremia in the barn talking about her little sister being grown up. Cremia mentions that her sister is finally ready to have some of the Chateau Romani. At the end of the night when they are walking back to their house, Romani is cheerful. However, Cremia is more melancholy in her dialogue. It seems that she is sad that her sister is growing up; however, Cremia realizes that it is the end of the world and that she needs to use the Chateau Romani to deaden her sister's senses before the upcoming apocalypse--thus sparing the pain of death. Or simply as a last kindness, a way to make sure Romani's last night is as happy as Cremia can make it, like Make-A-Wish. And Romani saved the cows -- she ''did'' prove she's more grown-up than Cremia thought.

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* It is fairly common knowledge that the Chateau Romani from the ranch has properties similar to alcohol alcohol, as children are not allowed in the bar, nor are they allowed to drink it. On day three, provided you saved Romani from the aliens, you will find Cremia in the barn talking about her little sister being grown up. Cremia mentions that her sister is finally ready to have some of the Chateau Romani. At the end of the night night, when they are walking back to their house, Romani is cheerful. However, Cremia is more melancholy in her dialogue. It seems that she is sad that her sister is growing up; however, Cremia realizes that it is the end of the world and that she needs to use the Chateau Romani to deaden her sister's senses before the upcoming apocalypse--thus apocalypse -- thus sparing the pain of death. Or simply as a last kindness, a way to make sure Romani's last night is as happy as Cremia can make it, like Make-A-Wish. And Romani saved the cows -- she ''did'' prove she's more grown-up than Cremia thought.



* The reason why there're no Kokiri counterparts is because there's no Deku Tree counterpart. For the Kokiri to have a counterpart in Termina, they would need a Deku Tree counterpart to come from.

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* The reason why there're there are no Kokiri counterparts is because there's no Deku Tree counterpart. For the Kokiri to have a counterpart in Termina, they would need a Deku Tree counterpart to come from.



* It's rather annoying that Tatl berates you for not knowing information about enemies if you ask her, but it almost makes sense. For one, [[AloofAlly she's only helping you because the door was literally slammed in her face and she needs you to get to Skull Kid]]. For two, she thinks Link is an [[{{Tsundere}} idiot]] (At first, at least). For three, she gets mad when you ask for information about enemies Link has already faced in ''Ocarina of Time'', so he should already know. Comparatively, Navi was specifically sent to assist Link, so was much more willing to dispense information. This also ties in with what we see outside of battle. In ''Ocarina of Time'', Navi tells Link a lot about what he is supposed to do, and in the final boss fight, bemoans her inability to help Link. Tatl, on the other hand, does not offer as much advice, and her cutscene time is more focused on her relationship with Skull Kid and Tael than with telling Link what to do.

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* It's rather annoying that Tatl berates you for not knowing information about enemies if you ask her, but it almost makes sense. For one, [[AloofAlly she's only helping you because the door was literally slammed in her face and she needs you to get to Skull Kid]]. For two, she thinks Link is an [[{{Tsundere}} idiot]] (At (at first, at least). For three, she gets mad when you ask for information about enemies Link has already faced in ''Ocarina of Time'', so he should already know. Comparatively, Navi was specifically sent to assist Link, so she was much more willing to dispense information. This also ties in with what we see outside of battle. In ''Ocarina of Time'', Navi tells Link a lot about what he is supposed to do, and in the final boss fight, bemoans her inability to help Link. Tatl, on the other hand, does not offer as much advice, and her cutscene time is more focused on her relationship with Skull Kid and Tael than with telling Link what to do.



** The Gerudo Pirates stealing the Zora eggs. Sure they're the key to the temple, but they're stealing ''eggs''. In other words, ''[[AdultFear they're kidnapping children]]'', and ''[[InvasionOfTheBabySnatchers unborn]]'' children at that. No wonder Mikau went nuts.
** It's rather obvious that's why Mikau went after them despite apparently having no combat training (thus getting himself killed in the process) - there's some big hints that those are ''HIS'' unborn children the pirates stole.

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** The Gerudo Pirates stealing the Zora eggs. Sure Sure, they're the key to the temple, but they're stealing ''eggs''. In other words, ''[[AdultFear they're kidnapping children]]'', and ''[[InvasionOfTheBabySnatchers unborn]]'' children at that. No wonder Mikau went nuts.
** It's rather obvious that's why Mikau went after them despite apparently having no combat training (thus getting himself killed in the process) - -- there's some big hints that those are ''HIS'' unborn children the pirates stole.



** Worse of all, if you have already done the water temple, gone back in time and finished the game without doing this quest, you have basically left his eggs to die.

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** Worse of all, if you have already done the water temple, gone back in time time, and finished the game without doing this quest, you have basically left his eggs to die.



* It's pretty obvious that had it not been for Link, all of Termina would've been doomed. But we all know that he saved them. ''In his timeline''. Once you look at the fact that there are two other timelines that ''[=OoT=]'' spawned, it makes you wonder what happened to all the Terminans? Without any other Link going to Termina, there's no hope for them. In the adult timeline that [=OoT=] Link left, it's seven years in the future, which means that Termina is long gone. And in the decline timeline, where Ganon won, the ''[=ALttP=]/Oracle/LA'' Link and ''[=TLoZ/AoL=]'' Link only go in the Lost Woods for a very short time.
* Some may ask, why are the Gorons so bothered by the winter? They're made of rock, right? Let's look at this scientifically, water likes to seep into ground cracks. It also expands when it freezes, making the cracks in the rocks bigger, this can split giant rocks in half over time. Now remember that Gorons roll everywhere at high speed, likely creating a lot of friction, and probably absorbing water into any cracks they may have gained from smacking into walls or whatever. Furthermore, ever feel a rock in wintertime? Rocks are excellent conductors of cold and don't have much in the way of insulation. Of course winter is going to be a pain for creatures made of it.

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* It's pretty obvious that had it not been for Link, all of Termina would've been doomed. But we all know that he saved them. ''In his timeline''. Once you look at the fact that there are two other timelines that ''[=OoT=]'' spawned, it makes you wonder -- what happened to all the Terminans? Without any other Link going to Termina, there's no hope for them. In the adult timeline that [=OoT=] Link left, it's seven years in the future, which means that Termina is long gone. And in the decline timeline, where Ganon won, the ''[=ALttP=]/Oracle/LA'' Link Link, ''ALBW'' Link, and ''[=TLoZ/AoL=]'' Link only go in the Lost Woods for a very short time.
* Some may ask, why are the Gorons so bothered by the winter? They're made of rock, right? Let's look at this scientifically, scientifically -- water likes to seep into ground cracks. It also expands when it freezes, making the cracks in the rocks bigger, bigger; this can split giant rocks in half over time. Now remember that Gorons roll everywhere at high speed, likely creating a lot of friction, and probably absorbing water into any cracks they may have gained from smacking into walls or whatever. Furthermore, ever feel a rock in wintertime? Rocks are excellent conductors of cold and don't have much in the way of insulation. Of course winter is going to be a pain for creatures made of it.



* The "You could get used to this" scene was an amusing, AccidentalPervert aside, until factor in Link's whole life: he grew up somewhat ostracized from the Kokiri, and despite all he went through since then, it's likely he hasn't had much physical contact with another person outside of battle ever. Double that with the fact that he knows his mother died when he was a baby, and hugs are said to originate from being held by our mothers as infants. So what is the "this" that he could get used to? ''Basic human affection''. Which becomes fridge brilliance when you consider later games in the franchise, where Link has warm, nurturing backgrounds with caring families, either biological (like in ''The Wind Waker'') or surrogate (like in ''Twilight Princess'' and ''Skyward Sword'') Those versions of Link are much more expressive. No wonder, then, Link has a blank expression. Besides instinctive surprise/horror, he literally doesn't know how to convey emotions like anyone else would.
* It seems odd that the door underneath the clock tower that connects Hyrule to Termina locks after you go through it, yet other characters such as Skull Kid, the Happy Mask Salesman, and the Deku Butler and his son have been able to go through it, and you and Epona somehow cross through it after saving Termina. This is, until you realize that the Happy Mask Salesman probably locked the door back to Hyrule to prevent Link from escaping the moon without first retrieving Majora's Mask for the Happy Mask Salesman. [[GameplayAndStorySegregation Or maybe]], Link doesn't want to go back because [[BigBad Skull Kid]] has the [[ChekhovsGun Ocarina of Time]] and [[CoolHorse Epona]], and [[TheHero Link]], who has the [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower Triforce of Courage]], makes it his sole mission to bring them both back before he even realizes what [[WeirdMoon kind]] [[ColonyDrop of]] [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt danger]] the new world he is in is facing. Said danger, along with being [[TransformationTrauma unwillingly transformed]] [[BalefulPolymorph into a Deku Scrubling]] [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway even smaller than his normal self]], is just [[JumpedAtTheCall even more]] [[GotTheCallOnSpeedDial incentive to stay]].
* When you wear the Zora and Goron masks, you're pretty much [[DeadPersonImpersonation impersonating the person whose spirit is in the mask]], i.e. Darmani and Mikau. Because of this, the people think both of them are ''still alive''. Meaning that once Link leaves, they'll also mysteriously vanish with no trace. The Gorons will believe Darmani has up and left them, and Lulu and the other Zora will believe Mikau has abandoned his band, people, lover and possibly his children.
* ''Ocarina of Time'''s chubby, red-shirt and blue overalls wearing ranch owner Talon was based on Mario while his lanky and resentful green-shirt and white overalls wearing worker Ingo was based on Luigi. Both have Terminian counterparts. In fact, Ingo has three of them. At first glance, Talon being the Milk bar's bartender and the Ingos being thieving ranch owners and leader of a troupe doesn't seem to have any obvious connection. Then it hit me. "Not Mario" is the bartender at the bar where "Not Luigi the 3rd" goes to to drown his Sorrows. Mario is assisting Luigi in getting piss drunk!

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* The "You could get used to this" scene was an amusing, AccidentalPervert aside, until you factor in Link's whole life: he grew up somewhat ostracized from the Kokiri, and despite all he went through since then, it's likely he hasn't had much physical contact with another person outside of battle ever. Double that with the fact that he knows his mother died when he was a baby, and hugs are said to originate from being held by our mothers as infants. So what is the "this" that he could get used to? ''Basic human affection''. Which becomes fridge brilliance when you consider later games in the franchise, where Link has warm, nurturing backgrounds with caring families, either biological (like in ''The Wind Waker'') or surrogate (like in ''Twilight Princess'' and ''Skyward Sword'') Sword''). Those versions of Link are much more expressive. No wonder, then, Link has a blank expression. Besides instinctive surprise/horror, he literally doesn't know how to convey emotions like anyone else would.
* It seems odd that the door underneath the clock tower that connects Hyrule to Termina locks after you go through it, yet other characters such as Skull Kid, the Happy Mask Salesman, and the Deku Butler and his son have been able to go through it, and you and Epona somehow cross through it after saving Termina. This is, until you realize that the Happy Mask Salesman probably locked the door back to Hyrule to prevent Link from escaping the moon without first retrieving Majora's Mask for the Happy Mask Salesman. Salesman.
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[[GameplayAndStorySegregation Or maybe]], maybe]] Link doesn't want ''want'' to go back because [[BigBad Skull Kid]] has the [[ChekhovsGun Ocarina of Time]] and [[CoolHorse Epona]], and [[TheHero Link]], who has the [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower Triforce of Courage]], makes it his sole mission to bring them both back before he even realizes what [[WeirdMoon kind]] [[ColonyDrop of]] [[EndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt danger]] the new world he is in is facing. Said danger, along with being [[TransformationTrauma unwillingly transformed]] [[BalefulPolymorph into a Deku Scrubling]] [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway even smaller than his normal self]], is just [[JumpedAtTheCall even more]] [[GotTheCallOnSpeedDial incentive to stay]].
* When you wear the Zora and Goron masks, you're pretty much [[DeadPersonImpersonation impersonating the person whose spirit is in the mask]], i.e. Darmani and Mikau. Because of this, the people think both of them are ''still alive''. Meaning that once Link leaves, they'll also mysteriously vanish with no trace. The Gorons will believe Darmani has up and left them, and Lulu and the other Zora will believe Mikau has abandoned his band, people, lover lover, and possibly his children.
* ''Ocarina of Time'''s Time''[='=]s chubby, red-shirt and blue overalls wearing ranch owner Talon was based on Mario while his lanky and resentful green-shirt and white overalls wearing worker Ingo was based on Luigi. Both have Terminian counterparts. In fact, Ingo has three of them. At first glance, Talon being the Milk bar's bartender and the Ingos being thieving ranch owners and leader of a troupe doesn't seem to have any obvious connection. Then it hit me. "Not Mario" is the bartender at the bar where "Not Luigi the 3rd" goes to to drown his Sorrows. Mario is assisting Luigi in getting piss drunk!



* You meet the Goron Elder, frozen into a big snowball, and even after you thaw him out and get him to teach you the intro to the Goron's Lullaby, he keeps going on towards Snowhead, to try and save his son and his people from the winter, all the while expressing regret that he cannot console his crying son. Him being old is one thing, because you do the job for him and he survives the incident. But remember, he went off to stop the blizzard and the seemingly endless winter: this means the reason he left in the first place is because he got news that Darmani died (as several Gorons mention hearing of Darmani's death from the Elder himself.) And Darmani's ghost had to watch him leave and probably freeze into a snowball, all because Darmani failed. Not to mention pretty much the only reason ''Link'' can succeed where Darmani couldn't is the simple fact that he has the Goron's Lullaby, as Darmani was blown off-course by the giant Goron exhaling that icy wind that you have to put to sleep to get to the temple. True, completely thawing the area takes the Deku Mask too, and other weapons Gorons cannot use, but it would have been an enormous relief if Darmani could have at least put that giant Goron to sleep.

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* You meet the Goron Elder, Elder frozen into a big snowball, and even after you thaw him out and get him to teach you the intro to the Goron's Lullaby, he keeps going on towards Snowhead, to try and save his son and his people from the winter, all the while expressing regret that he cannot console his crying son. Him being old is one thing, because you do the job for him and he survives the incident. But remember, he went off to stop the blizzard and the seemingly endless winter: this means the reason he left in the first place is because he got news that Darmani died (as several Gorons mention hearing of Darmani's death from the Elder himself.) himself). And Darmani's ghost had to watch him leave and probably freeze into a snowball, all because Darmani failed. Not to mention pretty much the only reason ''Link'' can succeed where Darmani couldn't is the simple fact that he has the Goron's Lullaby, as Darmani was blown off-course by the giant Goron exhaling that icy wind that you have to put to sleep to get to the temple. True, completely thawing the area takes the Deku Mask too, and other weapons Gorons cannot use, but it would have been an enormous relief if Darmani could have at least put that giant Goron to sleep.
4th Nov '15 10:43:50 AM Discar
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** Given that Darmani says he died when he tried to go to Snowhead and got blown off the path and into a pit, it's the latter.
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** Given that Darmani says he died when he tried to go to Snowhead and got blown off the path and into a pit, it's the latter.
* You meet the Goron Elder, frozen into a big snowball, and even after you thaw him out and get him to teach you the intro to the Goron's Lullaby, he keeps going on towards Snowhead, to try and save his son and his people from the winter, all the while expressing regret that he cannot console his crying son. Him being old is one thing, because you do the job for him and he survives the incident. But remember, he went off to stop the blizzard and the seemingly endless winter: this means the reason he left in the first place is because he got news that Darmani died (as several Gorons mention hearing of Darmani's death from the Elder himself.) And Darmani's ghost had to watch him leave and probably freeze into a snowball, all because Darmani failed. Not to mention pretty much the only reason ''Link'' can succeed where Darmani couldn't is the simple fact that he has the Goron's Lullaby, as Darmani was blown off-course by the giant Goron exhaling that icy wind that you have to put to sleep to get to the temple. True, completely thawing the area takes the Deku Mask too, and other weapons Gorons cannot use, but it would have been an enormous relief if Darmani could have at least put that giant Goron to sleep.
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