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5th Sep '15 8:52:37 PM SirMayday
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**I couldn't help but think while reading the above that Jesus is referred to as the firstborn of all Creation, and is commonly acknowledged (in Christian circles, at least) as God's son. And in keeping with the pattern, God has put the younger children--Christians--ahead of the firstborn by sacrificing him. -SirMayday
5th Sep '15 8:29:11 PM tropelion
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** Actually, a more careful analysis will reveal that what appear to be contradictions are pretty much misunderstandings of the timeline which can be easily cleared up by using historical context. The most obvious of these, and the one which is most frequently pointed out as a contradiction, would be Genesis two, which upon careful examination, is really just the latter part of Genesis one, but in slightly more detail. Other examples of seeming contradiction usually have to do with misunderstanding particular terms used in modern translations, due to the fact that English doesn't have words with quite the same meanings as their Greek/Hebrew counterparts. A good example of such a word, while not controversial in meaning, would be the Hebrew word "Hesed" which has no direct translation, but is frequently used to mean "lovingkindess," "covenant love," etc. So basically, whenever one runs into a contradiction, it's prudent to assume that one is misreading, and do the research to clear it up, mainly due to the fact that the Bible has, heretofore, proven to be an impeccably reliable historical resource.

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** * As stated above, God was giving Abraham a SecretTestOfCharacter, which the latter passed. Before he had to carry it out, God stopped him and provided a lamb for sacrifice. Even if that hadn't happened God, being TheOmnipotent, could have easily done something such as reverse time, [[BackFromTheDead bring Issac back to life]] or prevent the knife from penetrating his skin to name a few.

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Actually, a more careful analysis will reveal that what appear to be contradictions are pretty much misunderstandings of the timeline which can be easily cleared up by using historical context. The most obvious of these, and the one which is most frequently pointed out as a contradiction, would be Genesis two, which upon careful examination, is really just the latter part of Genesis one, but in slightly more detail. Other examples of seeming contradiction usually have to do with misunderstanding particular terms used in modern translations, due to the fact that English doesn't have words with quite the same meanings as their Greek/Hebrew counterparts. A good example of such a word, while not controversial in meaning, would be the Hebrew word "Hesed" which has no direct translation, but is frequently used to mean "lovingkindess," "covenant love," etc. So basically, whenever one runs into a contradiction, it's prudent to assume that one is misreading, and do the research to clear it up, mainly due to the fact that the Bible has, heretofore, proven to be an impeccably reliable historical resource.resource.


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** In addition, this in light of the fact that the other gods were unreal and it was in the face of everything God did for them (right down to giving the Israelites a variety of food because they grew bored with the first food item He gave them).
5th Jul '15 11:38:53 PM unwell619
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1st Jul '15 6:22:29 PM PinkTwinkle
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* The whole idea that God can't allow sinners into Heaven almost makes it seem as though God demands that humans become doctrinal androids of perfection in their faith or else He will personally destroy them or send them to Hell. This is in fact a frequent cause of people rejecting Christianity, as they cannot reconcile this with the idea that God is supposed to actually love all life despite hating so many of the things we do. However, there are numerous Biblical excerpts/phrases which talk about how God is destined to consumes all sin, and that sin cannot exist in His presence. One such expression, which is frequently repeated throughout the Bible, states that God is an '''all-consuming fire''' (which is backed up by the Holy Spirit being represented as a flame). Take these hints literally, combined with the also-frequent statements about sin in fact causing death and decay, and it tells an entirely different story than the one the RageAgainstTheHeavens crowd believes. It's not that God is a prick who arbitrarily demands people copy His perfection and punishes those who can't just for the sake of it. It's that sin is like a [[TheVirus virus]] which erodes the ability of anything it taints to withstand the all-consuming fire that is God's presence. Those afflicted with sin '''literally cannot survive in God's realm''', thus He refuses to allow such beings to even enter His realm without special protections attached to ensure they don't get vaporized on arrival.

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* The whole idea that God can't allow sinners into Heaven almost makes it seem as though God demands that humans become doctrinal androids of perfection in their faith or else He will personally destroy them or send them to Hell. This is in fact a frequent cause of people rejecting Christianity, as they cannot reconcile this with the idea that God is supposed to actually love all life despite hating so many of the things we do. However, there are numerous Biblical excerpts/phrases which talk about how God is destined to consumes consume all sin, and that sin cannot exist in His presence. One such expression, which is frequently repeated throughout the Bible, states that God is an '''all-consuming fire''' (which is backed up by the Holy Spirit being represented as a flame). Take these hints literally, combined with the also-frequent statements about sin in fact causing death and decay, and it tells an entirely different story than the one the RageAgainstTheHeavens crowd believes. It's not that God is a prick who arbitrarily demands people copy His perfection and punishes those who can't just for the sake of it. It's that sin is like a [[TheVirus virus]] which erodes the ability of anything it taints to withstand the all-consuming fire that is God's presence. Those afflicted with sin '''literally cannot survive in God's realm''', thus He refuses to allow such beings to even enter His realm without special protections attached to ensure they don't get vaporized on arrival.
1st Jul '15 6:20:03 PM PinkTwinkle
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* In the story of Abimelech being king and being overthrown, he asks to be stabbed by his armor bearer so that no one wuld know that "a woman killed him". A part of my brain can imagine the armor bearer told the story exactly as requested, something like "Abimelech is dead. He wishes it to be known that [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial he was not killed by a woman dropping a millstone on his head]]"

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* In the story of Abimelech being king and being overthrown, he asks to be stabbed by his armor bearer so that no one wuld would know that "a woman killed him". A part of my brain can imagine the armor bearer told the story exactly as requested, something like "Abimelech is dead. He wishes it to be known that [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial he was not killed by a woman dropping a millstone on his head]]"
16th Mar '15 12:19:59 AM ragnarpendon
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** OR the plants were already feeding on the day 1 light and since God is pretty OCD with context, established the rule on an object to generate said light. IE, he didn't create fire until the point for having a fire in the first place was present
9th Jan '15 9:45:50 AM esq263
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* Looking at the story of Joseph in Genesis, at first glance, it appears to be a RagsToRiches story about a guy who really [[EarnYourHappyEnding earns his happy ending]]. Fred Clark, in a Slacktivist blog entry titled "Joseph and the Appalling Tyrannical Despot", shows the FridgeHorror behind this, discussing how the story credits Joseph with establishing the system of despotic tyranny and slavery that characterized the Pharaohs' regime in Egypt. He concludes that this is a "just-so story", about how Egypt got its tyranny. However, taking the story in combination with the Exodus narrative leads to an alternative interpretation -- as a cautionary tale. The lesson advanced is that an absolute government might serve you well for the present, especially under a benevolent ruler; however, in creating such a state, you are in fact fashioning the tools of oppression that can be used by a less ethical successor. NiceJobBreakingItHero indeed.



** Eh, what are kind of issue is time or space to one who cannot be contained by the grand total of his whole creation? All Noah had to do was show his devotion by building the arc and searching for that with which to fill it, God could provide the rest. Consider there is not even enough water on Earth for the flood described leading some Rabbis to suggest God went back in time(tehom) to make sure there was enough rain.

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** Eh, what are kind of issue is time or space to one who cannot be contained by the grand total of his whole creation? All Noah had to do was show his devotion by building the arc and searching for that with which to fill it, God could provide the rest. Consider there is not even enough water on Earth for the flood described leading some Rabbis to suggest God went back in time(tehom) time (tehom) to make sure there was enough rain.
14th Dec '14 10:34:23 AM stro
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*** The crime Jesus was actually crucified for was sedition. The punishment for sedition was death via crucifixion. When Jesus tells says that his followers must take up their cross, it was less of a reference to the symbology associated with Jesus and the cross and more that he was telling his followers that to follow him is certain death. Whether you subscribe to the Kingdom of Heaven being an actual physical place (which would require a physical king) or an other wordly realm, it was an insult to Rome and inherent challenge to its authority.
18th Nov '14 11:33:06 PM Protagonist506
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* Now, unless you're accepting an alternate character interpretation, it's pretty obvious that Satan is evil. However, why he's evil is rather terrifying when you think about it. To oversimplify, humans are evil because of external temptation (IE, Satan and original sin) and selfishness. Satan predates external temptation, and he must know that it's not in his self-interest to oppose God. He is, quite possibly, the only creature to choose evil against their self-interest independently of any external factor. He seems to be truly working ForTheEvulz.
8th Nov '14 8:01:02 PM Protagonist506
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** He created the plants, then realized the next day that he would need a way for them to sustain themselves while he was taking care of other problems, so he created photosynthesis.

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** He created the plants, then realized the next day that he would need a way for them to sustain themselves while he was taking care of other problems, so he created photosynthesis.photosynthesis.
* Now, unless you're accepting an alternate character interpretation, it's pretty obvious that Satan is evil. However, why he's evil is rather terrifying when you think about it. To oversimplify, humans are evil because of external temptation (IE, Satan and original sin) and selfishness. Satan predates external temptation, and he must know that it's not in his self-interest to oppose God. He is, quite possibly, the only creature to choose evil against their self-interest independently of any external factor. He seems to be truly working ForTheEvulz.
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