History Fridge / TheATeam

30th Apr '16 2:53:59 PM HeroGal2347
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* More about Face: the series demonstrates multiple times that he doesn't really like the adventures the team is forced to go on as much as the others, and also that he has major commitment issues related to everybody he's relied on in his life abandoning him, either by walking out or by dying. Is some of his dislike of these missions because he's afraid of losing his friends in the same way?
30th Apr '16 2:51:20 PM HeroGal2347
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* In "[[Recap/TheATeamS1E8TheOutOfTowners The Out-of-Towners]]", Face asks Amy if she told the other team members that their clients were having second thoughts. Amy admits that she didn't. Given the way she describes the shopkeepers' problems while attempting to get them to go through with it anyway, she probably didn't call them on purpose, so that they'd already be there by the time they learned and would do the job.
24th Apr '16 9:54:13 PM HeroGal2347
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* Why do the A-Team never hit anyone, despite being trained soldiers? ''Because they're deliberately missing''. They're already wanted for war crimes & breaking out of prison, adding several counts of murder to that wouldn't be a good idea.
* In "The Beast from the Belly of a Boeing", Murdock is found sane by his doctor, who says Murdock is "just as sane as [he is]". [[spoiler: His doctor is later revealed to be insane, and Murdock's release from the VA is overturned.]]
* Quite a good one for ''Series/TheATeam'' of all things - Murdock's sanity (or lack thereof) was always a point of contention. However, no matter which side of the fence you fall on, it's fairly evident the guy has genuine problems. He does "get better" over the course of the series (although quite obviously still a freewheeling maverick) with the two major crossing points being his breakthrough with Richter in "The Doctor is Out" and after the events of "The Sound of Thunder". Strange but true - watch the character development.
** There's also the unspoken idea that they ALL came back from Vietnam damaged - BA's childhood dislike of flying became crippling aerophobia, the maverick Hannibal became a reckless adrenaline junkie - Face is pretty much the only one who came back sane.
*** I disagree. Even Face was damaged by 'Nam. He already had trust and commitment issues because of his childhood. In the Army you ''have'' to trust your comrades. Your lives--and theirs--depend on it. Face, who would have only been about 19 at the time, probably saw a lot of people he had started to become friends with die in battle or in the death camp. Suddenly those childhood trust issues got a lot worse. He became afraid to get too close to anyone for fear of losing them. And even though he trusts the rest of the team more than anyone else, you can sometimes see him pull back a bit even from them.
* Murdock has proven on multiple occasions that he's quite capable of busting himself out of the VA. So why does he almost always wait for Face to come and scam him out? Because it's ''fun''. There's really no other reason for it other than the fact that it's just more fun that way.

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* Why do the A-Team never hit anyone, despite being trained soldiers? ''Because they're deliberately missing''. They're already wanted for war crimes & and breaking out of prison, prison; adding several counts of murder to that wouldn't be a good idea.
* In "The "[[Recap/TheATeamS1E13TheBeastFromTheBellyOfABoeing The Beast from the Belly of a Boeing", Boeing]]", Murdock is found sane by his doctor, who says Murdock is "just as sane as [he is]". [[spoiler: His doctor is later revealed to be insane, and Murdock's release from the VA is overturned.]]
* Quite a good one for ''Series/TheATeam'' of all things - Murdock's sanity (or lack thereof) was always a point of contention. However, no matter which side of the fence you fall on, it's fairly evident the guy has genuine problems. He does "get better" over the course of the series (although quite obviously still a freewheeling maverick) with the two major crossing points being his breakthrough with Richter in "The Doctor is Out" and after the events of "The Sound of Thunder". Strange but true - watch the character development.
** There's also the unspoken idea that they ALL came back from Vietnam damaged - BA's childhood dislike of flying became crippling aerophobia, the maverick Hannibal became a reckless adrenaline junkie - Face is pretty much the only one junkie, and Face, who came back sane.
*** I disagree. Even Face was damaged by 'Nam. He
already had trust and commitment issues because of his childhood. In the Army you ''have'' childhood, was forced to trust your comrades. Your lives--and theirs--depend on it. Face, who would have only been about 19 at the time, probably saw (and then to ''lose'') a lot number of people he had started to become friends with die in battle or in the death camp. Suddenly those childhood trust people, thus exacerbating his issues got a lot worse. He became afraid to get too close to anyone for fear of losing them. And the degree where he even though he trusts the rest of the team more than anyone else, you can sometimes see him pull pulls back a bit even from them.
his teammates sometimes.
* Murdock has proven on multiple occasions that he's quite capable of busting himself out of the VA. So why does he almost always wait for Face to come and scam him out? Because it's ''fun''. There's really no other reason for it other than the fact that it's just more fun that way.
way. Some people wait for their friends to come over so they can play video games or harass their older/younger siblings -- Murdock waits for Face to come over so they can do improv on the guards.
* In "[[Recap/TheATeamS2E21DeadlyManuevers Deadly Manuevers]]", Hannibal's method of keeping his men in top shape may seem a little like something you'd expect from a DrillSergeantNasty, but even this hard training might be a manifestation of Hannibal's protective and father-like attitude towards the others. While they often don't act like it, the work the team does is dangerous, and (as shown in "[[Recap/TheATeamS1E6BlackDayAtBadRock Black Day at Bad Rock]]") if one of them gets lax even for a moment during a mission, he could die, or one of the other team members (or the client) could die.
28th Aug '15 12:54:18 PM Brigid
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*** Here, here. There's also free will involved. Members of the Italian mafia were often very devout Catholics in their own way. Face ''likes'' scamming people. He's probably been charming the nuns at the orphanage for extra cookies since he showed up. And every time he reminisces about the orphanage it's a happy memory, we even get to meet a couple of the nuns who raised him in one episode. The kids under their care look fine and the entire episode is very heartwarming.
24th May '14 2:47:37 PM ChrisDV
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** Him dying his hair and wearing different clothes was enough to fool airport security that he was not Hannibal. Maybe he un-dyed his hair in case Lynch got fooled, too, and wondered what the heck Liam Neeson was doing there.

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** Him dying his hair and wearing different clothes *** When B.A. was still unconscious; they drug him & get on the plane, then switch to the freighter before he comes to with Murdoch having enough time to fool airport security that he was not Hannibal. Maybe he un-dyed his hair in case Lynch got fooled, too, make B.A. a curry after getting onto the ship. On top of that, they're travelling from Germany to Los Angeles and wondered what there's roughly 48 hours between the heck Liam Neeson was doing there.air strike & the plan starting. Plenty of time for Hannibal to remove the dye.
10th Mar '13 6:16:52 PM Match25
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* A PsychopathicManchild with the power of the CIA behind him. Just let that sink in.
2nd Feb '13 11:59:35 AM ILostMyDuck
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*** I disagree. Even Face was damaged by 'Nam. He already had trust and commitment issues because of his childhood. In the Army you ''have'' to trust your comrades. Your lives--and theirs--depend on it. Face, who would have only been about 19 at the time, probably saw a lot of people he had started to become friends with die in battle or in the death camp. Suddenly those childhood trust issues got a lot worse. He became afraid to get too close to anyone for fear of losing them. And even though he trusts the other rest of the team more than anyone else, you can sometimes see him pull back a bit even from them.
* Murdock has proven on multiple occasions that he's quite capable of busting himself out of the VA. So why does he almost always wait for Face to come and scam him out? Because it's ''fun''. There's really no other reason for it other than that it's just more fun that way.

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*** I disagree. Even Face was damaged by 'Nam. He already had trust and commitment issues because of his childhood. In the Army you ''have'' to trust your comrades. Your lives--and theirs--depend on it. Face, who would have only been about 19 at the time, probably saw a lot of people he had started to become friends with die in battle or in the death camp. Suddenly those childhood trust issues got a lot worse. He became afraid to get too close to anyone for fear of losing them. And even though he trusts the other rest of the team more than anyone else, you can sometimes see him pull back a bit even from them.
* Murdock has proven on multiple occasions that he's quite capable of busting himself out of the VA. So why does he almost always wait for Face to come and scam him out? Because it's ''fun''. There's really no other reason for it other than the fact that it's just more fun that way.
13th Aug '12 5:38:43 AM Malchus
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* While the aerial battle between the tanks and the drones is awesome, you got to take into account that they were firing off dozens of ''live shells'' over Germany, not to mention the crash of the drones. They also landed close to people, meaning that that aerial battle took place over a populated area.
25th Jun '12 1:27:50 AM FELH2
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* Pike has several chances to kill Face and B.A., but he takes his time and gloats, missing each. This would seem to come into conflict with his disgust at the unprofessional manner in which [[spoiler:Lynch's]] men go about trying to kill him...until you remember Hannibal once called him a 'cartoon character'- everything Pike does, he does it to satisfy his adrenaline rush, and as soon as he gets into a good firing position, he abandons all pretense of finesse and proceeds to unleash the heaviest firepower at his disposal (he is already going guns-blazing [[spoiler:minutes after the A-Team snatched Morrison]] in Berlin, seemingly oblivious to the fact that he is doing so in the middle of a populated area or that he is about to surrounded by the police from all sides). Seems about right that he'd [[EvilGloating suddenly start monologuing as soon as he had the hero in his gunsights.]]
* Murdock's quote from ''{{Braveheart}}'' is an eerily apt description of the situation the Team eventually finds itself in.

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* Pike has several chances to kill Face and B.A., but he takes his time and gloats, missing each. This would seem to come into conflict with his disgust at the unprofessional manner in which [[spoiler:Lynch's]] men go about trying to kill him...until you remember Hannibal once called him a 'cartoon character'- everything Pike does, he does it to satisfy his adrenaline rush, and as soon as he gets into a good firing position, he abandons all pretense of finesse and proceeds to unleash the heaviest firepower at his disposal (he is already going guns-blazing [[spoiler:minutes after the A-Team snatched Morrison]] in Berlin, seemingly oblivious to the fact that he is doing so in the middle of a populated area or that he is about to surrounded by the police from all sides). Seems about right that he'd [[EvilGloating suddenly start monologuing as soon as he had the hero in his gunsights.]]
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* Murdock's quote from ''{{Braveheart}}'' ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' is an eerily apt description of the situation the Team eventually finds itself in.



* In the early Season 1 episodes of ''[=~The A-Team~=]'', it is established that Face, the A-Team's handsome and charming but [[TheBarnum unrepentant]] ConMan, was raised by Catholic priests in an orphanage after they found him when he was five years old. So you think, how did Face become a con man if he was most likely raised religious? Then you think about the tons of recent [[{{Shotacon}} allegations]] against Catholic priests and then you have to wonder: why isn't Face ''more'' messed up and/or does he have any repressed memories hidden in that pretty head of his? As with the ''Suite Life'' example, this had to be unintentional, but looking back, you just can't help but wonder once you think about it...

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* In the early Season 1 episodes of ''[=~The A-Team~=]'', ''The A-Team'', it is established that Face, the A-Team's handsome and charming but [[TheBarnum unrepentant]] ConMan, was raised by Catholic priests in an orphanage after they found him when he was five years old. So you think, how did Face become a con man if he was most likely raised religious? Then you think about the tons of recent [[{{Shotacon}} allegations]] against Catholic priests and then you have to wonder: why isn't Face ''more'' messed up and/or does he have any repressed memories hidden in that pretty head of his? As with the ''Suite Life'' example, this had to be unintentional, but looking back, you just can't help but wonder once you think about it...



** There's a saying: The Irish make good priests and horse traders (the pre-internal combustion engine equivalent to used car salesmen). The two jobs have a lot of skill overlap. Charisma and persuasion being up there. No deviant priests necessary and rather unlikely. We hear about bad priests a lot because it makes for great scandal, but they're really the exception to the rule.

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** There's a saying: The Irish make good priests and horse traders (the pre-internal combustion engine equivalent to used car salesmen). The two jobs have a lot of skill overlap. Charisma and persuasion being up there. No deviant priests necessary and rather unlikely. We hear about bad priests a lot because it makes for great scandal, but they're really the exception to the rule.
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** "Steel" similarly featured no involvement from the authorities even though the week's villain was a construction contractor who was actually blowing up a public construction site and actively threatening a rival company from working the city's job. Presumably the city would just get the guy ''arrested'' to avoid losing any more money to him.

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** "Steel" similarly featured no involvement from the authorities even though the week's villain was a construction contractor who was actually blowing up a public construction site and actively threatening a rival company from working the city's job. Presumably the city would just get the guy ''arrested'' to avoid losing any more money to him.
23rd Feb '12 11:14:25 PM SqueakyTheDuck
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** There's also the unspoken idea that they ALL came back from Vietnam damaged - BA's childhood dislike of flying became crippling aerophobia, the maverick Hannibal became a batshit adrenaline junkie - Face is pretty much the only one who came back sane.

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** There's also the unspoken idea that they ALL came back from Vietnam damaged - BA's childhood dislike of flying became crippling aerophobia, the maverick Hannibal became a batshit reckless adrenaline junkie - Face is pretty much the only one who came back sane.sane.
*** I disagree. Even Face was damaged by 'Nam. He already had trust and commitment issues because of his childhood. In the Army you ''have'' to trust your comrades. Your lives--and theirs--depend on it. Face, who would have only been about 19 at the time, probably saw a lot of people he had started to become friends with die in battle or in the death camp. Suddenly those childhood trust issues got a lot worse. He became afraid to get too close to anyone for fear of losing them. And even though he trusts the other rest of the team more than anyone else, you can sometimes see him pull back a bit even from them.
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